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How odd, it's the Ulsterman with the sense of fairplay and the englishman who wants to gerrymander ;-)NickPalmer said:
Nah. The English already decide on 90% of the Parliament. The appetite for an extra English government/parliament is minimal, and using the current parliament but letting some MPs vote on some things and not others would just be a mess, if they produce different majorities (if they didn't, it'd make no difference).Alanbrooke said:
Amazing. Have you guys learnt nothing ? The longer this is left to fester the worse it will get until it all blows up at some inconvenient time and with rancour. The nations need some equality between them and leaving England stuck with scots, welsh and Ulster Mps deciding their local laws is just grossly offensive.0 -
Vote was Tokyo 60, Istanbul 36.0
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Mark Pack @markpack
Due to equal marriage, many LibDems in/near Brent were v reluctant to campaign for Teather in 2015. Wonder how much of a factor that was?
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The question is whose ? the scottish polls have been saying contradictory things of late.TheScreamingEagles said:
According to his Lordship, it will ruffle a few feathersAlanbrooke said:
That should be fun.TheScreamingEagles said:
MondayAlanbrooke said:
Do you know when the big Ashcroft scottish poll is released ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It'll be part of a wider polling round up, unless Sarah Teather really is quitting now and not at the next General Election.Roger said:@Eagle
"I think that's the morning thread sorted,"
Please not an Ed is crap thread. I've no problem in principle (and might agree) but it brings the morons out in droves and the site becomes unreadable.
Though there are rumours that there's a panelbase poll for the Sunday Times on Scottish Independence out tonight as well.0 -
Tomorrow we find out if wrestling is back...0
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13/13 on the quiz! Half of them educated guesses...0
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All of them probably, his last foray into Scotland was funny, URL says it allAlanbrooke said:
The question is whose ? the scottish polls have been saying contradictory things of late.TheScreamingEagles said:
According to his Lordship, it will ruffle a few feathersAlanbrooke said:
That should be fun.TheScreamingEagles said:
MondayAlanbrooke said:
Do you know when the big Ashcroft scottish poll is released ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It'll be part of a wider polling round up, unless Sarah Teather really is quitting now and not at the next General Election.Roger said:@Eagle
"I think that's the morning thread sorted,"
Please not an Ed is crap thread. I've no problem in principle (and might agree) but it brings the morons out in droves and the site becomes unreadable.
Though there are rumours that there's a panelbase poll for the Sunday Times on Scottish Independence out tonight as well.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2013/05/trident-the-snp-shoots-the-messenger/0 -
Sarah Teather managed to keep her opposition to same sex marriage quiet for a long time. When she voted against a lot of people thought it was some sort of mistake.0
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The prominent Liberal Democrat MP Sarah Teather – who shot to fame when she became the youngest member of parliament a decade ago – has announced that she is to quit the House of Commons because she no longer feels that Nick Clegg's party fights sufficiently for social justice and liberal values on immigration.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/lib-dem-sarah-teather-step-down0 -
damn, I got 12 out of 13 on the quiz, accidentally skipping the question about the percentage of women in congress...0
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A religious person is entitled to vote against in a free vote.There are other Lib Dems who voted against and didn`t Farron vote against or abstain?0
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Good choice for Joyce DiDonato to be singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow since she's from Kansas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_DiDonato0 -
Nigel Kennedy. Forever young.0
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Having looked at the Guardian website, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sarah Teather speaks for many.
Clegg will be very, very foolish if he ignores her.0 -
Hurrah!TheScreamingEagles said:The prominent Liberal Democrat MP Sarah Teather – who shot to fame when she became the youngest member of parliament a decade ago – has announced that she is to quit the House of Commons because she no longer feels that Nick Clegg's party fights sufficiently for social justice and liberal values on immigration.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/lib-dem-sarah-teather-step-down0 -
Atm Clegg's still on course to hold the balance of power. Sarah Teather's on course to have a meaningless job in a quango.OldKingCole said:Having looked at the Guardian website, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sarah Teather speaks for many.
Clegg will be very, very foolish if he ignores her.0 -
Must be really interesting to Guardian readers...this is the second page full of it.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/sarah-teather?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 32s
Victims of Assad chemical attack "secretly flown to UK" for tests, according to Syrian opposition, Sunday Times reveals0 -
It must have been quite an experience to visit Japan in the late 1980s when it was forecast by many people to be the next global superpower.0
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"Paddy on the Railroad"
I can play that on the fiddle...0 -
That one might be interesting. UKIP got 5% in 2010.Andy_JS said:
Mid Dorset LD MP Annette Brooke also announced her retirement recently.tim said:Blimey, 14% of female Lib Dem MP's wiped out in one decision
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/middorsetandnorthpoole/
123 on your UKIP spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dDZoVmdlVXBEQVNvcUNfR294UXo0S3c#gid=0
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A great Irish song...
...written by an English barrister, who never set foot in Ireland!0 -
Nick Sutton @suttonnick 4s
Mail on Sunday: 2004-2010 - Govt issued 5 export licences allowing companies to sell NaF used to make Sarin to Syria pic.twitter.com/tzAUL1N8Va0 -
Can't see the hypocrisy myself. It's possible to be conservative on gay marriage but liberal on immigration, or vice versa. People don't all think in neat little boxes.
11/13 on the quiz - stumped by the DJIA graph and the notable lady.0 -
The Tokyo decision must come as a surprise to Angela Merkel.
She of course changed her entire policy on nuclear power because of the Fukushima leak.0 -
It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
Nothing surprises me about that labour government.TheScreamingEagles said:Nick Sutton @suttonnick 4s
Mail on Sunday: 2004-2010 - Govt issued 5 export licences allowing companies to sell NaF used to make Sarin to Syria pic.twitter.com/tzAUL1N8Va0 -
Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
"She will remain in parliament until the 2015 election because she says she has duties to perform for her constituents. And she wants to oppose the more offensive parts of the immigration bill in parliament. After that, she says she has "no idea" what she will do. "foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/sarah-teather0 -
How about a Cameron is crap thread?TheScreamingEagles said:
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
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Been there, done that.anotherDave said:
How about a Cameron is crap thread?TheScreamingEagles said:
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
I think Cleggy's playing it quite clever at present, he's keeping his head down and letting the storm blow on Ed and Dave. When we get in to next year he'll start to raise his profile on the back of better economic news and no doubt throw a few LD initiatives into the GO election bribes pot. A managed divorce with the Tories 6-9 months out and then he's campaigning on LD social justice and economic competence, a safe pair of hands to stop the left\right madmen.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
No figures yet, but the Sunday Times editorial says
Our YouGov poll shows the Labour lead at just four points, even though most voters are not yet fully aware of the improved economic data.0 -
and
The Labour leader’s Commons victory on Syria has turned into defeat, his rating on it worse than David Cameron’s — who lost the vote. Mr Miliband’s overall rating is grim even among Labour voters. More of them think he is doing badly than say he is doing well as party leader.0 -
Paywall
LABOUR was plunged into crisis yesterday amid toxic allegations of a cover-up over vote rigging in Falkirk.
Ed Miliband’s attempts to draw a line under the row, by declaring there was no evidence of wrongdoing, backfired spectacularly as it emerged that key witnesses had been pressured to withdraw damaging evidence from an inquiry.
Evidence is mounting that the Unite union had scuppered a Labour party investigation into its attempts to stitch up safe seats. Unite had used similar heavy-handed tactics to those the party leader had insisted he was determined to consign to the past.0 -
Agreed. It's a stupid comment from Iain Dale.NickPalmer said:Can't see the hypocrisy myself. It's possible to be conservative on gay marriage but liberal on immigration, or vice versa. People don't all think in neat little boxes.
11/13 on the quiz - stumped by the DJIA graph and the notable lady.
It's bad news for the Lib Dems, as Brent Central is a natural Labour seat.
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At present Cockroach United is looking more certain to be in the next govt than Labour or ConservativesTheScreamingEagles said:
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
Mr. Brooke, I agree. Clegg's Fabian strategy is working. Remains to be seen whether Marcus Minucius Fallonius tries to take a more aggressive stance, though.0
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YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%0 -
What about a Cameron is Fab thread and SeanT can invite his kipper mates from the DT ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Been there, done that.anotherDave said:
How about a Cameron is crap thread?TheScreamingEagles said:
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
I've got a half written piece saying Cameron is fab, whereas as Ed Miliband isn'tAlanbrooke said:
What about a Cameron is Fab thread and SeanT can invite his kipper mates from the DT ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Been there, done that.anotherDave said:
How about a Cameron is crap thread?TheScreamingEagles said:
I tried writing a Clegg is crap thread, but I concluded he wasn't.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.0 -
Actually the piece is entitled, Don't misunderestimate Ed Miliband0
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....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%0 -
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott
Tonight Labour sources admit Falkirk seat rigging investigation was scuppered by same union bully boy tactics that prompted it. What a jok
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Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%0 -
Thanks for posting it but why am I surprised that the Times makes a big issue of Ed and Falkirk.Martin Kettle in the Guardian reports the Murdoch press offering Gareth Bale like rewards to anyone willing to stick their boot into Miliband. So much for the mother of all Parliaments.TheScreamingEagles said:No figures yet, but the Sunday Times editorial says
Our YouGov poll shows the Labour lead at just four points, even though most voters are not yet fully aware of the improved economic data.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/04/tories-gearing-up-for-miliband-kicking0 -
YouGov changes from last week
Con +3
Lab -30 -
For those who are fans, the pre-game coverage starts at 7am, games at 1pm and 4.15pm, then the evening NBC game is Giants at Dallas.Scott_P said:
For those who are big fans and have NFL Sunday Ticket, there are 10 early games to choose from, and 2 late ones.
There are two Monday Night games too.
Giants are 4-0 at Jerry World. Just as well I'm not a fan.
- and we haven't even mentioned college football :-)
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Sarah Teather's departure from the HoC will actually be quite significant. Not only will with average IQ go up substantially but there will be a significant impact on the average height too, as well as average oestrogen level.
Three biometic major impacts in just one resignation probably make her the most influential LibDem MP around. A pity that she was otherwise completely inconsequential.0 -
Oh now that funny little piece that was dedicated by the composer to the Liverpool Orchestral Society, and premiered in the city in October 1901...0
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Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%0 -
He's got a long, long way to go.Alanbrooke said:
I think Cleggy's playing it quite clever at present, he's keeping his head down and letting the storm blow on Ed and Dave. When we get in to next year he'll start to raise his profile on the back of better economic news and no doubt throw a few LD initiatives into the GO election bribes pot. A managed divorce with the Tories 6-9 months out and then he's campaigning on LD social justice and economic competence, a safe pair of hands to stop the left\right madmen.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
Although, of course, a week and all that.
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From the Guardian article:SMukesh said:
Thanks for posting it but why am I surprised that the Times makes a big issue of Ed and Falkirk.Martin Kettle in the Guardian reports the Murdoch press offering Gareth Bale like rewards to anyone willing to stick their boot into Miliband. So much for the mother of all Parliaments.TheScreamingEagles said:No figures yet, but the Sunday Times editorial says
Our YouGov poll shows the Labour lead at just four points, even though most voters are not yet fully aware of the improved economic data.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/04/tories-gearing-up-for-miliband-kicking
Miliband's ratings in a YouGov poll taken this week:
decisive 5%
strong 4%
a natural leader 3%
charismatic 2%.
Well, that about sums him up.0 -
I know you're in denial, but look at this trend....RedRag1 said:
Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/08/29/betting-on-when-will-a-conservative-lead-with-yougov-occur/0 -
This is the stuff, boys and girls.
This is what the London 2012 Olympics Opening Ceremony could have been.0 -
The most impressive thing for me today was the fact that at the end of the ABC News election programme they went through all 150 constituencies giving the detailed results.0
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IS that about the electoral masterstroke of how Ed hides his policies and goes with his charismatic persona instead ?TheScreamingEagles said:Actually the piece is entitled, Don't misunderestimate Ed Miliband
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Mr. JS, that's all well and good, but did they humiliate a grown man by forcing him to pretend to be a cowboy at 3am?0
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TSE - No matter what the polls say.....to the PB Hodges, it's always a disaster for Ed M. In a surreal world, the leader that has never been behind in the polls, every poll is a disaster, whilst for Cameron, who hasn't been ahead in the polls for over three years, every poll is a justification and a victory.....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
I know you're in denial, but look at this trend....RedRag1 said:
Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/08/29/betting-on-when-will-a-conservative-lead-with-yougov-occur/0 -
Tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday front page: UK sent poison gas chemicals to Assad
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/84417/the_mail_on_sunday_sunday_8th_september_2013.html
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That "meaningless job" will pay more than Clegg's and possibly the PMs. It will almost certainly give her more power than Clegg to directly interfere in peoples' private lives and generally busybody around in the way that unelected unaccountable unsackable meddlers are free to do.Alanbrooke said:
Atm Clegg's still on course to hold the balance of power. Sarah Teather's on course to have a meaningless job in a quango.
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Has anyone in the press started calling the non-story in Falkirk the Unishambles yet?Tykejohnno said:Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott
Tonight Labour sources admit Falkirk seat rigging investigation was scuppered by same union bully boy tactics that prompted it. What a joke0 -
It is along the lines, he maybe crapper than we think.Alanbrooke said:
IS that about the electoral masterstroke of how Ed hides his policies and goes with his charismatic persona instead ?TheScreamingEagles said:Actually the piece is entitled, Don't misunderestimate Ed Miliband
I've tracked how the first three years of Ed as Leader of the Opposition compares to Dave's first three years (via the net ratings), and Dave outperforms him (Ed's not had a net positive rating since the early part of his leadership)
Then add into the mix, that in the last 18 months of the electoral cycle, the general rule is Leaders of the Opposition's ratings declines, then this could be considered the high point of Ed's leadership0 -
I wonder if Obama will bomb London?Tykejohnno said:Tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday front page: UK sent poison gas chemicals to Assad
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/84417/the_mail_on_sunday_sunday_8th_september_2013.html0 -
And you're their antonym, which makes you equally boring.RedRag1 said:
TSE - No matter what the polls say.....to the PB Hodges, it's always a disaster for Ed M. In a surreal world, the leader that has never been behind in the polls, every poll is a disaster, whilst for Cameron, who hasn't been ahead in the polls for over three years, every poll is a justification and a victory.....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
I know you're in denial, but look at this trend....RedRag1 said:
Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/08/29/betting-on-when-will-a-conservative-lead-with-yougov-occur/0 -
Now that Teather has ensured that the Lib Dem conference will be interesting, and with the sure knowledge that Falkirk will be the best-known town in Scotland at the Labour conference, what piece of tomfoolery or skulduggery will there be to entertain us during the Conservative party conference?
Surely they wouldn't want to be left out?0 -
Someone just posted this on VoteUK:
"Assange was knocked out of the Victoria count before Rise Up Australia, the Australian Democrats, Family First, the Sex Party, Palmer United and the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party. Popular guy."
http://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/1400/australian-general-election?page=1#page=21#ixzz2eFHunM74
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he will inevitably lose seats at the election but if he holds enough -say 40 ish - he's in the pound seats. I suspect having been through the perils of one coalition he'll negotiate the next one much better. His biggest fault in this Parlt was he went for the electoral reforms and dropped voter sensitive policies like Uni fees which lost him credibility. If he'd have put voters first I reckon he'd be increasing seats this time round.OldKingCole said:
He's got a long, long way to go.Alanbrooke said:
I think Cleggy's playing it quite clever at present, he's keeping his head down and letting the storm blow on Ed and Dave. When we get in to next year he'll start to raise his profile on the back of better economic news and no doubt throw a few LD initiatives into the GO election bribes pot. A managed divorce with the Tories 6-9 months out and then he's campaigning on LD social justice and economic competence, a safe pair of hands to stop the left\right madmen.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
Although, of course, a week and all that.0 -
It's supposed to be boring....that is the point.TheScreamingEagles said:
And you're their antonym, which makes you equally boring.RedRag1 said:
TSE - No matter what the polls say.....to the PB Hodges, it's always a disaster for Ed M. In a surreal world, the leader that has never been behind in the polls, every poll is a disaster, whilst for Cameron, who hasn't been ahead in the polls for over three years, every poll is a justification and a victory.....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
I know you're in denial, but look at this trend....RedRag1 said:
Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/08/29/betting-on-when-will-a-conservative-lead-with-yougov-occur/0 -
Difficult. We already think he is really, really, really crap.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is along the lines, he maybe crapper than we think.
But Ed led for 15 of the last 18 19 months. It will be 15 of the last 39 come the election, assuming Ed lasts that long...TheScreamingEagles said:I've tracked how the first three years of Ed as Leader of the Opposition compares to Dave's first three years (via the net ratings), and Dave outperforms him (Ed's not had a net positive rating since the early part of his leadership)
Wow.TheScreamingEagles said:this could be considered the high point of Ed's leadership
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So no by election fun then? What a pity we need something to liven things up this autumn. May have to yhino of defenestration instead.anotherDave said:
"She will remain in parliament until the 2015 election because she says she has duties to perform for her constituents. And she wants to oppose the more offensive parts of the immigration bill in parliament. After that, she says she has "no idea" what she will do. "foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
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Mr. P, reminds me of an early QI exchange between Davies and Fry.
Davies: I'm not as stupid as you think I am.
Fry: Oh no, you couldn't possibly be.0 -
Sorry TSE, is that the Times paywall?TheScreamingEagles said:Paywall
LABOUR was plunged into crisis yesterday amid toxic allegations of a cover-up' etc.0 -
yesSimonStClare said:
Sorry TSE, is that the Times paywall?TheScreamingEagles said:Paywall
LABOUR was plunged into crisis yesterday amid toxic allegations of a cover-up over' etc.0 -
can't see it Mr M. Clegg and Cameron will walk into very well paid roles when they leave politics. Miss Teather if anyone remembers her in 2016 might find herself a little friendless if it's LD\Con coalition 2. Nobody wants a lobbyist who pisses off the purse strings.GeoffM said:
That "meaningless job" will pay more than Clegg's and possibly the PMs. It will almost certainly give her more power than Clegg to directly interfere in peoples' private lives and generally busybody around in the way that unelected unaccountable unsackable meddlers are free to do.Alanbrooke said:
Atm Clegg's still on course to hold the balance of power. Sarah Teather's on course to have a meaningless job in a quango.0 -
Front of express -
Prince Andrew held at gunpoint(palace break in)
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/84418/sunday_express_sunday_8th_september_2013.html0 -
Ok, it's a non-story being puffed up in a Murdoch rag. Nothing to see here.SimonStClare said:Paywall
LABOUR was plunged into crisis yesterday amid toxic allegations of a cover-up over' etc.
Sorry TSE, is that the Times paywall?0 -
I would suggest his biggest mistake was taking a non-job like Deputy PM. Should have insisted on one of the Big Three: CoE, Foreign Sec or Home Office.Alanbrooke said:
he will inevitably lose seats at the election but if he holds enough -say 40 ish - he's in the pound seats. I suspect having been through the perils of one coalition he'll negotiate the next one much better. His biggest fault in this Parlt was he went for the electoral reforms and dropped voter sensitive policies like Uni fees which lost him credibility. If he'd have put voters first I reckon he'd be increasing seats this time round.OldKingCole said:
He's got a long, long way to go.Alanbrooke said:
I think Cleggy's playing it quite clever at present, he's keeping his head down and letting the storm blow on Ed and Dave. When we get in to next year he'll start to raise his profile on the back of better economic news and no doubt throw a few LD initiatives into the GO election bribes pot. A managed divorce with the Tories 6-9 months out and then he's campaigning on LD social justice and economic competence, a safe pair of hands to stop the left\right madmen.foxinsoxuk said:Probably so. though defecting would have stirred things even more.
We havent had a Clegg is crap thread for a while...Alanbrooke said:
It's looking like an attempt to cause maximum grief before she goes.foxinsoxuk said:It does sound as if she is stepping down shortly rather than at the election.
Will be an interesting byelection if so!
Resigning over the benefits cap and the visa bond seems an odd one. Tuition fees not a problem.
She will be remembered for her role as stand up comic...
http://news.sky.com/story/883468/ministers-attempt-at-stand-up-falls-flat
possibly the most embarrassing conference speech since portillos SAS speech.
Although, of course, a week and all that.
A Liberally inclined Home Sec would have been "interesting". Might have caused some Tory MP's to spontaneously combust!0 -
Sad, but oh so true.Tykejohnno said:
Nothing surprises me about that labour government.TheScreamingEagles said:Nick Sutton @suttonnick 4s
Mail on Sunday: 2004-2010 - Govt issued 5 export licences allowing companies to sell NaF used to make Sarin to Syria pic.twitter.com/tzAUL1N8Va0 -
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
I do not think Murdoch likes Milliband.Scott_P said:
Ok, it's a non-story being puffed up in a Murdoch rag. Nothing to see here.SimonStClare said:Paywall
LABOUR was plunged into crisis yesterday amid toxic allegations of a cover-up over' etc.
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You do come over as being rather paranoid and bitter.RedRag1 said:
TSE - No matter what the polls say.....to the PB Hodges, it's always a disaster for Ed M. In a surreal world, the leader that has never been behind in the polls, every poll is a disaster, whilst for Cameron, who hasn't been ahead in the polls for over three years, every poll is a justification and a victory.....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
I know you're in denial, but look at this trend....RedRag1 said:
Always is for the PB Hodges. When do we get the next PB Hodges thread that is a disaster for ED M...oh, in the morning....only on PB!TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, the trend is undeniableRedRag1 said:
....a disaster for Ed M.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sunday Times
Labour 38%
Con 34%
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/08/29/betting-on-when-will-a-conservative-lead-with-yougov-occur/
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Against toxic tories and in a difficult austerity environment.TheScreamingEagles said:and
The Labour leader’s Commons victory on Syria has turned into defeat, his rating on it worse than David Cameron’s — who lost the vote. Mr Miliband’s overall rating is grim even among Labour voters. More of them think he is doing badly than say he is doing well as party leader.
just Awesome Ed.0 -
British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could have been used to produce the deadly nerve agent that killed 1,400 people, The Mail on Sunday can reveal today.
Between July 2004 and May 2010 the Government issued five export licences to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, which is used to make sarin.
The Government last night admitted for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria – a clear breach of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances that has been condemned as ‘grossly irresponsible’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415081/Britain-sent-poison-gas-chemicals-Assad-Proof-UK-delivered-Sarin-agent-Syrian-regime-SIX-years.html#ixzz2eFLFXrmP
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Do you? I predicted no effect. Can't remember anyone predicting a big boost. Too much lurid fiction is addling your brain.SeanT said:
As predicted by ME on HERE. No Syria boost for Labour. Indeed, now the Syrian downsides, such as they are, belong to Miliband.TheScreamingEagles said:No figures yet, but the Sunday Times editorial says
Our YouGov poll shows the Labour lead at just four points, even though most voters are not yet fully aware of the improved economic data.
Who were the lefties soothsaying a big Syrian boost for "Gas The Babies" Ed? Quite a few, as I recall.
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That seems unlikely. Ed is a charismatic figure. 2% polled said so...foxinsoxuk said:Revenge is a dish best served cold.
I do not think Murdoch likes Milliband.0 -
LMAONext said:
From the Guardian article:SMukesh said:
Thanks for posting it but why am I surprised that the Times makes a big issue of Ed and Falkirk.Martin Kettle in the Guardian reports the Murdoch press offering Gareth Bale like rewards to anyone willing to stick their boot into Miliband. So much for the mother of all Parliaments.TheScreamingEagles said:No figures yet, but the Sunday Times editorial says
Our YouGov poll shows the Labour lead at just four points, even though most voters are not yet fully aware of the improved economic data.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/04/tories-gearing-up-for-miliband-kicking
Miliband's ratings in a YouGov poll taken this week:
decisive 5%
strong 4%
a natural leader 3%
charismatic 2%.
Well, that about sums him up.0 -
Thomas Docherty, a Labour MP, is trying to blame the Tories for licences that were issued under the last Labour government.TheScreamingEagles said:British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could have been used to produce the deadly nerve agent that killed 1,400 people, The Mail on Sunday can reveal today.
Between July 2004 and May 2010 the Government issued five export licences to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, which is used to make sarin.
The Government last night admitted for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria – a clear breach of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances that has been condemned as ‘grossly irresponsible’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415081/Britain-sent-poison-gas-chemicals-Assad-Proof-UK-delivered-Sarin-agent-Syrian-regime-SIX-years.html#ixzz2eFLFXrmP
Unbelievable.0 -
Betfair most seats next GE
Lab 1.86
Con 2.2
Flip flop ahead.0 -
Great last night at the Proms. Made me feel that there might be hope for Britain yet.0
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From that other right wing rag, the GuardianSeanT said:
There were plenty of lefties on here predicting a big surge for Stop The War Ed Milliband.
They have since evanesced.One Labour MP with a sense of irony puts it this way. How typical it is of his party to inflict an unprecedented defeat on the government on an issue over which it is on the same side as most of the public, only for Labour then to plunge into a dark night of the soul about what it has done.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/07/ed-miliband-cant-retreat-battle-union-bosses
Yet in the days since, many Labour people have been wandering around wearing the miserable face of a punter who thought he'd won a fortune on a horse only for it to be disqualified by the stewards. I am not just talking about the minority of Labour MPs who disagreed with the position taken by their leader. Even among those who thought he was broadly correct, there is queasiness.
Mr Cameron presents himself as the moral victor – effectively saying: "I may be a loser, but at least I am a loser with principles" – while casting his rival for No 10 as a man who "won" by being weak. "The Tories have played a bad hand rather well," sighs one of Ed Miliband's allies. "We have played a good hand rather badly." More disturbing for them, the Tory line of attack has been echoed by people who are sympathetic to Labour – or claim to be.0 -
No links to the lead story on the BBC website yet:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24004805
The ICM Wisdom Index continues to foretell a healthy Labour majority in 2015; the Labour YouGov vote share remains firmly where it has been throughout the summer.
In other news, it was a beautiful early autumn day here in Warwickshire. The blackberry crop this year is the best I can remember. Fill your bags, buckets and bowls.0 -
Not unbelievable, we are talking about Labour.Next said:
Thomas Docherty, a Labour MP, is trying to blame the Tories for licences that were issued under the last Labour government.TheScreamingEagles said:British companies sold chemicals to Syria that could have been used to produce the deadly nerve agent that killed 1,400 people, The Mail on Sunday can reveal today.
Between July 2004 and May 2010 the Government issued five export licences to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, which is used to make sarin.
The Government last night admitted for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria – a clear breach of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances that has been condemned as ‘grossly irresponsible’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415081/Britain-sent-poison-gas-chemicals-Assad-Proof-UK-delivered-Sarin-agent-Syrian-regime-SIX-years.html#ixzz2eFLFXrmP
Unbelievable.
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On a day when the Australians kicked out a Labor government.
When Clegg found himself at the end of his Teather.
And when Miliband learned that 5% of the British public consider him decisive 5%, 4% strong, 3% a natural leader and 2% charismatic.
There will be those who are in desperate need of good news.
So here it is ....
The Visa Consumer Expenditure Index for August:
• Month-on-month consumer spending increased in August (+1.6%), following a reduction of 2.4% in July.
• Quickest monthly increase in household expenditure since last September.
• Year-on-year spending also increased in August (+0.8%), following a slight reduction in July (-0.1%).
• However, quarterly spending figures signalled a reduced amount of consumer spending in August (-0.5%), following a difficult July.
• Year-on-year expenditure increased across all three monitored spending channels in August: Face-to-Face +1.0%, Online +1.1% and Mail/Telephone Order categories +3.9%.
Now in July, the Visa Index saw a surprise -2.4% fall in consumer spending which wasn't then reflected in the ONS figures published later in the month, so some caution may be needed here.
But the most plausible conclusions are that consumer spending in August broadly supports the story of accelerating growth in the economy during Q3 and backs up the mainly other leading economic indicators for the quarter.
As Paul Smith, Senior Economist at Markit put it:
“August proved to be a good month for UK household spending, with clothing retailers and restaurants amongst the principal beneficiaries.
“Rising 1.6% on the month, growth has now been registered six times so far this calendar year, indicating that July’s fall was a mere blip; indeed 2013 is rapidly turning out to be a much better year than many probably dared to expect.
“Higher spending volumes are intrinsically linked to the recent strengthening in the UK economic environment. Workplace activity is rising and job
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