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Ministers on mask-wearing: Don’t do as we do but as we say – politicalbetting.com
Ministers on mask-wearing: Don’t do as we do but as we say – politicalbetting.com
Imagine releasing this picture, from today, and then giving a press conference telling people they should wear facemasks indoors. pic.twitter.com/A8DNOpb5V3
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Mike usually can be relied upon for a little more.
I can genuinely not think of a reason to vaccinate children. They a) don't get (very) ill; and b) can still get and transmit the virus. Perhaps transmission is lower if they are vaccinated but it would be lower if they are asymptomatic, which most are.
The govt says to avoid people being off school but children can still get the virus having been vaxxed so if they do they will be off school anyway. Meanwhile, bubbles as I understand it have been abolished so whole classes won't be sent home.
What am I missing?
There is much to criticise HMG on Covid, this ain't it
Canada. Average of last 13 polls over previous 3 days. 21k+ sampled by a variety of methods.
Lib 32.2 (-0.9)
Con 30.8 (-3.5)
NDP 19.3 (+3.3)
BQ 6.7 (-0.9)
PPC 6.5 (+4.9)
GP 3.4 (-3.2) Changes with previous election.
Doesn't stop the Guardian, amongst others, leading with "The PM trails in the polls." He does in some, not on average (mean) any longer.
Direction of travel becoming clear.
Early voting already taking place in Alberta at least.
Incidentally. Tories unvaccinated candidates becoming a late issue.
Oh. You're not listening? K.
In short, keep the odd note, it'll be worth zillions in the future as we transition to a fully cashless society.
Remember very few fully vaxxed people who don't have underlying conditions have died. Large number of unvaxxed have.
British sprinter CJ Ujah's 'B' sample has tested positive, confirming the result of his initial test from the Tokyo Olympics.
Ujah, 27, was part of the British men's 4x100m relay team which won silver at the rearranged 2020 Olympics.
They will now almost certainly lose those medals as a result of the tests.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/58559089
but children can still get the virus having been vaxxed True, but it's less likely for any child. And less likely for one child = less cases in the childhood population = lower transmission to adults = lower global R.
Also if a teenager catches Covid and is vaxxed they'll have subsequent strong hybrid immunity - that keeps everything lower for longer too.
The virus hasn't passed stage 3 trials, the vaccines have - making a choice not to vaccinate when it's available essentially means you're saying the virus is safer than the vaccine. It's only "safer" if the virus is at very low levels, and those levels are achieved through .... vaccination.
Weird way of reporting the call?
Because:
- many vaccinated people won't get the disease at all, cutting their viral shedding to zero
- of those that get it, most will be only mildly symptomatic, cutting their viral shedding dramatically.
- and of those who are symptomatic, the amount of time time they are infectious will be far shorter.
One of my bugbears is that there's a headline that says "some vaccinated people can shed as much viral load as unvaccinated". Which is true, but deeply misleading. All the evidence (and there is ample evidence) shows that you dramatically (at least 85%) cut the amount of viral matter being thrown around.
Assuming the next Canadian election is not until 2025 that means he would have been PM for at least 10 years, something only 3 PMs of Canada have managed since 1948 St Laurent, his father Pierre and Jean Chretien. He would also beat the 9 years Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper managed
Why is it less likely for someone, anyone, to get the virus if they have been vaccinated?
https://bostonreview.net/science-nature/andrew-l-croxford-long-term-safety-argument-over-covid-19-vaccines
Unknown is the PPC. Exactly how many are there? The pollsters can't agree. Will they show up to vote? And if they do, might they vote Tory? Is looking a bit like the UKIP/Brexit vote was here.
(Although admittedly it would have been unlikely that they would have tweeted about it had one of them disagreed with it!)
Then I engaged brain and worked it out...
The Tories have been put on the backfoot re vaccines and got tangled up talking about assault weapons. They're bleeding votes to the PPC.
So more a Conservative fall and a smaller Liberal rise.
Nicki Minaj has responded to that Boris Johnson press conference. She forgives him but not Chris Whitty.
https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/1437808558687490048
When I walked that, it was in fog. My GF - driving a motorhome - took the postman's path.
Edit: I think not, with those mountains in the background. hmmm....
Effectiveness of vaccines against Delta are lower. I posted CDC research yesterday that showed that the efficacy against symptomatic Covid has dipped from 94/95% for original Covid to 79% for Delta.
Even if we assume that the gap between symptomatic infections and all infections is now fifteen percentage points, then that would still have around two-thirds of people given the vaccine not getting any detectable levels of Covid. (And therefore being highly unlikely to spread the disease. Plus, of course, children tend to have stronger immune systems, and therefore the vaccines are likely to be more effective for them.)
It's also worth taking a step back for a second.
Do you know why you sneeze and cough? It's becuase of survival of the fittest. Viruses that cause their hosts to cough and sneeze get spread around more. It's evolutionary pressure to put viral material out there. Someone who is completely asymptomatic isn't going to be coughing or sneezing, and that severely limits the amount of viral material they can excrete. And the evidence is legion that sneezing and coughing are major transmission vectors for Covid.
Ditto a road, of course.
I'm obviously a 'Scottish expert'!
And I've walked both...
But your line "effective...at preventing detectable infection". Does that mean you test negative for the virus or you are asymptomatic.
But we are talking about spreading between and amongst children, who are at an accepted tiny risk of either Covid or the vaccine.
If you are saying vaccine = low detectable levels of the virus = not much virus in the body once "infected" then that re-asks the question of who is this for? The double-vaccinated adults or other children who are overwhelmingly likely to suffer not much if anything beyond that cough and sneeze? Not I understand a rare occurrence for children regardless of vaccine and virus.
Edit. That is, of course, when the Liberals have a credible PM as their leader for the Centrist flank to vote for.
(Disappears into the kitchen just in case I have started WW3)
It must have been a chilly day.
@Keir_Starmer
can't be trusted. Starmer chose to break an honest deal agreed between us for Corbyn’s readmission to the party.
Starmer called to tell me he had suspended Corbyn.
EHRC said such political interference could be unlawfull.