Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Civil servants scornful about Brexit-related policy? Surely not!
About the politics more than the policy. We absolutely have to recreate all the trade deals we abandoned when we quit the EU. They just aren't "new" in the way they are being billed. Unless the status quo ante is "new".
That's amusing because I recall repeatedly being told before Truss was in place what a nightmare renegotiating all of those deals would be.
I seem to recall saying the smart thing to do would be for pre-existing deals is to copy and paste the existing deals where possible to get the new deals - and I was laughed at by multiple Remainers on here for suggesting that and was repeatedly told that wouldn't be possible and that we'd be "over a barrel" and other countries would "hold all the cards" and we couldn't possibly get the same terms outside the EU.
Then Truss did exactly what I said we should do - and that Remainers said was impossible - and now Remainers like yourself [including now yourself since your jump to the Lib Dems] claim that its not important and something to be scornful about.
Funny how that works isn't it?
We haven't renegotiated these deals. Trying to renegotiate for better terms would absolutely be hard. We aren't doing that. The only new deal we have done is party time for Australia and crippling for UK agriculture - literally them having us over a barrel.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Not allowing people into a country with assorted poxes is basic legal stuff - the means being irrelevant, e.g. Venetian galley, 747, who cares? - but it redounds on the airline in question, so ...
Would appreciate the link (on gov.uk?) to that effect.
I'll leave that to Charles - now on a very tricky part of my annual financial check up and tax return ... (from which I am skiving occasionally to dip in)
Back you go totally understand - to tie in an earlier discussion, you can't avoid ***** or taxes...
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
There seems to be clear logic in @Philip_Thompson 's position: if you are still fearful of covid, despite your vaccination status, you are at liberty to spend all your time in public wearing a FFP3 mask while avoiding anywhere that agitates your fear.
If you are not fearful, and want to try to live your life as normally as possible, then you are equally at liberty to abandon your mask.
I fit into the latter group, but realise that some people differ.
So what? Live and let live.
Lol - what people may or may not be fearful of is not the issue. Public health is the issue. There are plenty of wazzocks out there denying Covid and some of them win a Darwin Award by dying from it.
We're in the middle of another big spike of pox that isn't going away. You will of course insist that your government-mandated wayward behaviour has nothing to do with it.
Big spike? Deaths were down this week compared to the week before and were miniscule. If that's what you're considering a big spike then I'm quite happy to live with it.
As I said, you may be dismissive, the rest of the world is not. The pandemic (not endemic) is still ripping through the globe, with new variants being created and we know how much they are when we get them.
We may not be dying by the thousand every day thank God. But we are still a massively infected island, infection rates remain very very high compared to most other countries and its no wonder that we remain on restricted country lists in so many places.
I couldn't care less.
The entire planet needs to learn to live with the virus. Of course countries that haven't as successfully handled Covid19 as Britain so are less vaccinated than us will be terrified of Delta letting rip there - if I was in New Zealand or Australia right now it'd be a real concern.
I'm delighted that we vaccinated ourselves first ahead of the world. The rest of the world needs to catch up with us in learning to live with the virus, that's not a bad thing, its just a sign of our huge success that we got there before them.
Got it. So our vax rates now lagging behind chunks of Europe is cause for delight, and we are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The problem of course is that whilst England can think like that it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree and do what we say. We're going to end up getting mandatory quarantine going anywhere off this island at this rate.
Which would still be better than mandatory isolation, travel bans and never ending lockdowns which NZ and Australia have now due to their low vaccination rates compared to ours
Absolutely agreed – the Damocles Sword Lockdown / Prison Island model is beyond oppressive. The New Zealanders are still in the obdeient-sanguine phase, but the Australians are starting to twitch.
The deal here: No Restrictions – Moderate Risk is probably the best we can hope for at the moment.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Civil servants scornful about Brexit-related policy? Surely not!
About the politics more than the policy. We absolutely have to recreate all the trade deals we abandoned when we quit the EU. They just aren't "new" in the way they are being billed. Unless the status quo ante is "new".
That's amusing because I recall repeatedly being told before Truss was in place what a nightmare renegotiating all of those deals would be.
I seem to recall saying the smart thing to do would be for pre-existing deals is to copy and paste the existing deals where possible to get the new deals - and I was laughed at by multiple Remainers on here for suggesting that and was repeatedly told that wouldn't be possible and that we'd be "over a barrel" and other countries would "hold all the cards" and we couldn't possibly get the same terms outside the EU.
Then Truss did exactly what I said we should do - and that Remainers said was impossible - and now Remainers like yourself [including now yourself since your jump to the Lib Dems] claim that its not important and something to be scornful about.
Funny how that works isn't it?
We haven't renegotiated these deals. Trying to renegotiate for better terms would absolutely be hard. We aren't doing that. The only new deal we have done is party time for Australia and crippling for UK agriculture - literally them having us over a barrel.
But two years ago your lot [which you've joined] were absolutely adamant that we would have to renegotiate the deals as other parties wouldn't let us rollover the EU's deal as we'd be "desperate".
Have you forgotten that argument? What happened to that?
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
The Lib Dem policy is to increase the powers of the Welsh Senedd to be the same as the Scottish Parliament. In constitutional terms it doesn't offer anything new to Scotland. It's phony federalism.
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
It doesn't matter because no doctor will be willing to carry out the abortion in the first place, their insurers will not let them.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
There seems to be clear logic in @Philip_Thompson 's position: if you are still fearful of covid, despite your vaccination status, you are at liberty to spend all your time in public wearing a FFP3 mask while avoiding anywhere that agitates your fear.
If you are not fearful, and want to try to live your life as normally as possible, then you are equally at liberty to abandon your mask.
I fit into the latter group, but realise that some people differ.
So what? Live and let live.
Lol - what people may or may not be fearful of is not the issue. Public health is the issue. There are plenty of wazzocks out there denying Covid and some of them win a Darwin Award by dying from it.
We're in the middle of another big spike of pox that isn't going away. You will of course insist that your government-mandated wayward behaviour has nothing to do with it.
Big spike? Deaths were down this week compared to the week before and were miniscule. If that's what you're considering a big spike then I'm quite happy to live with it.
As I said, you may be dismissive, the rest of the world is not. The pandemic (not endemic) is still ripping through the globe, with new variants being created and we know how much they are when we get them.
We may not be dying by the thousand every day thank God. But we are still a massively infected island, infection rates remain very very high compared to most other countries and its no wonder that we remain on restricted country lists in so many places.
I couldn't care less.
The entire planet needs to learn to live with the virus. Of course countries that haven't as successfully handled Covid19 as Britain so are less vaccinated than us will be terrified of Delta letting rip there - if I was in New Zealand or Australia right now it'd be a real concern.
I'm delighted that we vaccinated ourselves first ahead of the world. The rest of the world needs to catch up with us in learning to live with the virus, that's not a bad thing, its just a sign of our huge success that we got there before them.
Got it. So our vax rates now lagging behind chunks of Europe is cause for delight, and we are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The problem of course is that whilst England can think like that it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree and do what we say. We're going to end up getting mandatory quarantine going anywhere off this island at this rate.
You've become completely irrational, or perhaps hysterical would be a better word.
Presumably he turns down every invitation to pubs, parties, weddings etc and will refuse to send his children to school when they return next week? Because if not, and his only risk mitigation is wearing a mask in Tesco's, then he is not just hysterical, he is also disingenuous.
I do love you two. Absolutist extremism at its finest. My kids "went back" 3 weeks ago. My son wears a mask in school as everyone in high school does as we try to contain the schools return spike.
Odd that you didn't mention the pubs/parties... NFI?
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Do you remember the scrape Phillip Lee MP got into when he questioned whether non-UK nationals with HIV should be allowed to enter the UK. He got crucified by the left. I'd have money that those who were critical then are the keenest now to stop UK citizens from returning to their own country with Covid.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Yep, I'm calling BS on that. I have literally sat next to people who obviously have the Common Cold. No hard words from the stewardess as she handed them the balsam tissues.
I meant notifiable.
Ah, something of a truism then: it's forbidden to fly with a disease that it is prohibited to fly with.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
You also voted for Brexit I believe? That meant the only choice was to keep the whole UK in the single market, which would clearly not lead to the migration controls most of your fellow Brexiteers voted for or to impose a hard border in Ireland which would have been even worse.
Scots voted 55% to stay in the UK in the once in a generation 2014 referendum
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
I’m never convinced it is helpful to good governance to try to pick emotive edge cases.
From what I’ve read (posting today plus 1 article I googled) it seems like a daft law. But it’s a daft law without coming up with so weird example - in that case the fact that the plaintiff was the rapist doesn’t impact on his right to sue or whether an offence has been committed under the law
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
You also voted for Brexit I believe? That meant the only choice was to keep the whole UK in the single market, which would clearly not lead to the migration controls most of your fellow Brexiteers voted for or to impose a hard border in Ireland which would have been even worse.
Scots voted 55% to stay in the UK in the once in a generation 2014 referendum
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Which looks as though it could allow the SoS to make such a provision, but afaics the SoS has not yet made such a provision.
Charles knows, but he has fucked off as he was in risk of having to back up his claims. Which is of course totally understandable. He "thinks" it is the case, and it might be the case, but he has no idea.
If I thought I'd get to within a million miles of someone at BA who actually knew I would call them this minute.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
I’m never convinced it is helpful to good governance to try to pick emotive edge cases.
From what I’ve read (posting today plus 1 article I googled) it seems like a daft law. But it’s a daft law without coming up with so weird example - in that case the fact that the plaintiff was the rapist doesn’t impact on his right to sue or whether an offence has been committed under the law
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Notifiable. Not flu.
Thanks. Makes sense. Can you provide a link to the law pls.
The power to make regulations is under s45B of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which was inserted by s129 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008. There have been subsequent amendments in relation to Covid by the various Acts of that name which make it clear that it is covered.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Therefore you cannot stand as a lib dem who oppose indyref2
OT just received another phishing email purporting to be from Paypal. "Your PayPal account has been temporarily restricted". If you get one, don't click on it. Sorry about teaching granny to suck eggs.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Do you remember the scrape Phillip Lee MP got into when he questioned whether non-UK nationals with HIV should be allowed to enter the UK. He got crucified by the left. I'd have money that those who were critical then are the keenest now to stop UK citizens from returning to their own country with Covid.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Yep, I'm calling BS on that. I have literally sat next to people who obviously have the Common Cold. No hard words from the stewardess as she handed them the balsam tissues.
I meant notifiable.
Ah, something of a truism then: it's forbidden to fly with a disease that it is prohibited to fly with.
I was in a hurry so truncated my response
@topping was all angry that a citizen with a notifiable disease wasn’t allowed to fly to their own country
I said that they weren’t allowed to fly.
So it’s not a case of outrageously restricting a citizen’s liberty. It’s a basic principle of public health that applies to everyone
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Notifiable. Not flu.
Thanks. Makes sense. Can you provide a link to the law pls.
The power to make regulations is under s45B of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which was inserted by s129 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008. There have been subsequent amendments in relation to Covid by the various Acts of that name which make it clear that it is covered.
Thanks. Charles said that you are not allowed to fly if you have a "communicable disease". I was looking for the specific ordinance that states that. I found this which looks for all the world like it would provide the SoS with the powers to do so.
On the government website it says "You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad." but I wondered what the context of it was.
Because if the flu is a notifiable disease as per @Carnyx's link then we have never been in a position whereby a notifiable disease has prevented entry to this country before.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
I wonder why Tory Yoons in a far away country of which we know far too fecking much are telling an LD who actually lives in Scotland what he can and can't support? Weird.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Yep, I'm calling BS on that. I have literally sat next to people who obviously have the Common Cold. No hard words from the stewardess as she handed them the balsam tissues.
I meant notifiable.
Ah, something of a truism then: it's forbidden to fly with a disease that it is prohibited to fly with.
I was in a hurry so truncated my response
@topping was all angry that a citizen with a notifiable disease wasn’t allowed to fly to their own country
I said that they weren’t allowed to fly.
So it’s not a case of outrageously restricting a citizen’s liberty. It’s a basic principle of public health that applies to everyone
Charles I just can't find the legislation which says people with a notifiable disease (you of course said "communicable" previously) are not allowed to fly. Not in the "International Health Regulations" or anywhere. But I am a limited googler so I thought you might know as you did after all state it to start with, and with your usual authority.
On Covid the government says explicitly you need a negative test to enter the UK.
I just thought this was unprecendented. I have never heard of people being refused entry to a country but I look forward to a blessed link which shows I am wrong.
I wonder why Yoons in a far away country of which we know far too fecking much are telling an LD who actually lives in Scotland what he can and can't support? Weird.
There is nothing weird about commenting on a candidate standing for election in direct contravention of the party's line
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
And even if they lost, a successful defendant would still be liable for their own costs.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Notifiable. Not flu.
Thanks. Makes sense. Can you provide a link to the law pls.
The power to make regulations is under s45B of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which was inserted by s129 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008. There have been subsequent amendments in relation to Covid by the various Acts of that name which make it clear that it is covered.
Thanks. Charles said that you are not allowed to fly if you have a "communicable disease". I was looking for the specific ordinance that states that. I found this which looks for all the world like it would provide the SoS with the powers to do so.
On the government website it says "You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad." but I wondered what the context of it was.
Because if the flu is a notifiable disease as per @Carnyx's link then we have never been in a position whereby a notifiable disease has prevented entry to this country before.
45B Health protection regulations: international travel etc. (1) The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision– (a) for preventing danger to public health from vessels, aircraft, trains or other conveyances arriving at any place, (b) for preventing the spread of infection or contamination by means of any vessel, aircraft, train or other conveyance leaving any place, and (c) for giving effect to any international agreement or arrangement relating to the spread of infection or contamination. (2) Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision– (a) for the detention of conveyances, (b) for the medical examination, detention, isolation or quarantine of persons, (c) for the inspection, analysis, retention, isolation, quarantine or destruction of things, (d) for the disinfection or decontamination of conveyances, persons or things or the application of other sanitary measures, (e) for prohibiting or regulating the arrival or departure of conveyances and the entry or exit of persons or things, (f) imposing duties on masters, pilots, train managers and other persons on board conveyances and on owners and managers of ports, airports and other points of entry, and (g) requiring persons to provide information or answer questions (including information or questions relating to their health).
That is at least one power to put these sort of restrictions in. Its probably not the only one.
It would be interesting to see those tools run here! I am not sure I share the authors' optimism. It may be these new tools will be used to advance gerrymandering rather than to oppose it, as the authors note is what happened to the commercial package.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Notifiable. Not flu.
Thanks. Makes sense. Can you provide a link to the law pls.
The power to make regulations is under s45B of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which was inserted by s129 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008. There have been subsequent amendments in relation to Covid by the various Acts of that name which make it clear that it is covered.
Thanks. Charles said that you are not allowed to fly if you have a "communicable disease". I was looking for the specific ordinance that states that. I found this which looks for all the world like it would provide the SoS with the powers to do so.
On the government website it says "You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad." but I wondered what the context of it was.
Because if the flu is a notifiable disease as per @Carnyx's link then we have never been in a position whereby a notifiable disease has prevented entry to this country before.
45B Health protection regulations: international travel etc. (1) The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision– (a) for preventing danger to public health from vessels, aircraft, trains or other conveyances arriving at any place, (b) for preventing the spread of infection or contamination by means of any vessel, aircraft, train or other conveyance leaving any place, and (c) for giving effect to any international agreement or arrangement relating to the spread of infection or contamination. (2) Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision– (a) for the detention of conveyances, (b) for the medical examination, detention, isolation or quarantine of persons, (c) for the inspection, analysis, retention, isolation, quarantine or destruction of things, (d) for the disinfection or decontamination of conveyances, persons or things or the application of other sanitary measures, (e) for prohibiting or regulating the arrival or departure of conveyances and the entry or exit of persons or things, (f) imposing duties on masters, pilots, train managers and other persons on board conveyances and on owners and managers of ports, airports and other points of entry, and (g) requiring persons to provide information or answer questions (including information or questions relating to their health).
That is at least one power to put these sort of restrictions in. Its probably not the only one.
Yes I saw that. Has he done any of them previously or indeed now? ie is there a regulation to this effect in place now? Has there been previously?
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Yep, I'm calling BS on that. I have literally sat next to people who obviously have the Common Cold. No hard words from the stewardess as she handed them the balsam tissues.
I meant notifiable.
Ah, something of a truism then: it's forbidden to fly with a disease that it is prohibited to fly with.
I was in a hurry so truncated my response
@topping was all angry that a citizen with a notifiable disease wasn’t allowed to fly to their own country
I said that they weren’t allowed to fly.
So it’s not a case of outrageously restricting a citizen’s liberty. It’s a basic principle of public health that applies to everyone
Charles I just can't find the legislation which says people with a notifiable disease (you of course said "communicable" previously) are not allowed to fly. Not in the "International Health Regulations" or anywhere. But I am a limited googler so I thought you might know as you did after all state it to start with, and with your usual authority.
On Covid the government says explicitly you need a negative test to enter the UK.
I just thought this was unprecendented. I have never heard of people being refused entry to a country but I look forward to a blessed link which shows I am wrong.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
There seems to be clear logic in @Philip_Thompson 's position: if you are still fearful of covid, despite your vaccination status, you are at liberty to spend all your time in public wearing a FFP3 mask while avoiding anywhere that agitates your fear.
If you are not fearful, and want to try to live your life as normally as possible, then you are equally at liberty to abandon your mask.
I fit into the latter group, but realise that some people differ.
So what? Live and let live.
Lol - what people may or may not be fearful of is not the issue. Public health is the issue. There are plenty of wazzocks out there denying Covid and some of them win a Darwin Award by dying from it.
We're in the middle of another big spike of pox that isn't going away. You will of course insist that your government-mandated wayward behaviour has nothing to do with it.
Big spike? Deaths were down this week compared to the week before and were miniscule. If that's what you're considering a big spike then I'm quite happy to live with it.
As I said, you may be dismissive, the rest of the world is not. The pandemic (not endemic) is still ripping through the globe, with new variants being created and we know how much they are when we get them.
We may not be dying by the thousand every day thank God. But we are still a massively infected island, infection rates remain very very high compared to most other countries and its no wonder that we remain on restricted country lists in so many places.
I couldn't care less.
The entire planet needs to learn to live with the virus. Of course countries that haven't as successfully handled Covid19 as Britain so are less vaccinated than us will be terrified of Delta letting rip there - if I was in New Zealand or Australia right now it'd be a real concern.
I'm delighted that we vaccinated ourselves first ahead of the world. The rest of the world needs to catch up with us in learning to live with the virus, that's not a bad thing, its just a sign of our huge success that we got there before them.
Got it. So our vax rates now lagging behind chunks of Europe is cause for delight, and we are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The problem of course is that whilst England can think like that it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree and do what we say. We're going to end up getting mandatory quarantine going anywhere off this island at this rate.
That's only because most European countries are using the sleight of hand on measurement of what being vaccinated actually is. We count people with two doses as fully vaccinated, in most of Europe a prior infection and a single jab counts as being fully vaccinated.
Given that one dose plus an infection seems to confer greater immunity to Delta than "double dosed", I'm struggling to see a sleight of hand here. It sounds - just like our extending of the period between doses - as a very sensible way of rationing scarce vaccine resources, and maximising protection.
Berating Raab is just people using him as a proxy for the US actions of the past 60 20 years.
It achieved nothing, he couldn't have achieved much on his own, but makes everyone feel better for no noticeable gain.
He could at least have pretended he was was on the job , rather than lying on a beach and saying FU Afghans
This is more it for me. Dominic Raab was never going to be a major player as regards how and when Kabul fell to the Taliban, but you'd have liked to see some effort on the margins.
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
It's one thing to vote against proposing a referendum. It's quite another to still oppose that referendum after the vote by the Scottish Parliament has been passed. I wonder if SLAB or SLID (The Tories won't) will pivot at that stage. Because once that point has been crossed it's less arguing against an indy ref, more arguing against devolved democracy itself.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
"Scottish Labour has reversed its opposition to nuclear weapons, certainly at UK level"
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
If you do get away with it it will be because you are a candidate for local council only, if you wanted to stand for MSP or MP then obviously you would have to support the party line and vote against indyref2.
In the same way we still have a few Tory councillors who oppose Brexit who would not be able to stand for Parliament now on that basis
I'm on the lookout for a compact digital or mirrorless camera which has a reasonable performance for architecture, and particularly in low light.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Budget is really what it needs to be, but I'm keen to stay some way below £1000 if I can.
Thanks
I have a Panasonic TZ100 which is excellent in low light, as it has a larger sensor chip than most compacts. It has reasonable wide angle capabilities and less than £400 now.
DP Review does good reviews with examples when looking for cameras. Sensor size matters a lot at low light levels.
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
If you do get away with it it will be because you are a candidate for local council only, if you wanted to stand for MSP or MP then obviously you would have to support the party line and vote against indyref2
His position is not inconsistent with voting against indyref2.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
Were I somehow to be elected to Aberdeenshire council I would not have to consider how I would vote in the MSPs vote on whether to do a referendum because I would not be an MSP. I will vote for and implement our programme for the council which shockingly enough has sod all to do with indyref2
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Yes I saw that. Can you post me the bit about not being allowed to fly while having a communicable disease.
Does this mean that people have never flown or been allowed to fly while they have had the flu?
Notifiable. Not flu.
Thanks. Makes sense. Can you provide a link to the law pls.
The power to make regulations is under s45B of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which was inserted by s129 of the Health and Social Care Act 2008. There have been subsequent amendments in relation to Covid by the various Acts of that name which make it clear that it is covered.
Thanks. Charles said that you are not allowed to fly if you have a "communicable disease". I was looking for the specific ordinance that states that. I found this which looks for all the world like it would provide the SoS with the powers to do so.
On the government website it says "You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad." but I wondered what the context of it was.
Because if the flu is a notifiable disease as per @Carnyx's link then we have never been in a position whereby a notifiable disease has prevented entry to this country before.
45B Health protection regulations: international travel etc. (1) The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision– (a) for preventing danger to public health from vessels, aircraft, trains or other conveyances arriving at any place, (b) for preventing the spread of infection or contamination by means of any vessel, aircraft, train or other conveyance leaving any place, and (c) for giving effect to any international agreement or arrangement relating to the spread of infection or contamination. (2) Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision– (a) for the detention of conveyances, (b) for the medical examination, detention, isolation or quarantine of persons, (c) for the inspection, analysis, retention, isolation, quarantine or destruction of things, (d) for the disinfection or decontamination of conveyances, persons or things or the application of other sanitary measures, (e) for prohibiting or regulating the arrival or departure of conveyances and the entry or exit of persons or things, (f) imposing duties on masters, pilots, train managers and other persons on board conveyances and on owners and managers of ports, airports and other points of entry, and (g) requiring persons to provide information or answer questions (including information or questions relating to their health).
That is at least one power to put these sort of restrictions in. Its probably not the only one.
Yes I saw that. Has he done any of them previously or indeed now? ie is there a regulation to this effect in place now? Has there been previously?
There's hundreds of them. A sample Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions and Functions of Local Authorities) (Amendment) (Wales) Regulations 2020/1409 Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 4) (Wales) Regulations 2020/1219 Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 10) Regulations 2021/583 Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 7) Regulations 2021/457 Health Protection (Coronavirus) (Wales) Regulations 2020/308 Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020/129 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Information for Passengers) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2021/452 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Information for Passengers) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2021/252 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2021/670 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2021/731 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2021/766 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 5) Regulations 2021/795 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 6) Regulations 2021/865 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 7) Regulations 2021/914 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 8) Regulations 2021/923 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 9) Regulations 2021/966 Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2021/589
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
It's one thing to vote against proposing a referendum. It's quite another to still oppose that referendum after the vote by the Scottish Parliament has been passed. I wonder if SLAB or SLID (The Tories won't) will pivot at that stage. Because once that point has been crossed it's less arguing against an indy ref, more arguing against devolved democracy itself.
No because they stand by the principle it is for Westminster to agree to it and if the UK Tory, Labour and LD parties still oppose indyref2 so will they.
The Tories obviously won't, you cannot get a handkerchief between Sarwar and Starmer and Cole-Hamilton and Davey either
Just working my way through the implications of the Texas abortion bill.
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
If she got an abortion in the first 6 weeks of pregnancy it would still be legal
It is an abysmal law which invites frivolous prosecutions which could bankrupt individuals or organisations, since it allows any private individual to bring a case, and explicitly prevents any defendant from recovering their legal costs.
And so it came to pass that the Scottish Government, little more than a month later, announced that it was also to introduce vaccine passports....
July 28. @BBCGaryR: “The UK Government we know are considering barring those who are unvaccinated from certain events. Would that carrot and stick work?”
Deputy FM John Swinney: “I don't think so, Gary. I think it's the wrong way to handle it. I think it's the wrong way.”
There seems to be clear logic in @Philip_Thompson 's position: if you are still fearful of covid, despite your vaccination status, you are at liberty to spend all your time in public wearing a FFP3 mask while avoiding anywhere that agitates your fear.
If you are not fearful, and want to try to live your life as normally as possible, then you are equally at liberty to abandon your mask.
I fit into the latter group, but realise that some people differ.
So what? Live and let live.
Lol - what people may or may not be fearful of is not the issue. Public health is the issue. There are plenty of wazzocks out there denying Covid and some of them win a Darwin Award by dying from it.
We're in the middle of another big spike of pox that isn't going away. You will of course insist that your government-mandated wayward behaviour has nothing to do with it.
Big spike? Deaths were down this week compared to the week before and were miniscule. If that's what you're considering a big spike then I'm quite happy to live with it.
As I said, you may be dismissive, the rest of the world is not. The pandemic (not endemic) is still ripping through the globe, with new variants being created and we know how much they are when we get them.
We may not be dying by the thousand every day thank God. But we are still a massively infected island, infection rates remain very very high compared to most other countries and its no wonder that we remain on restricted country lists in so many places.
I couldn't care less.
The entire planet needs to learn to live with the virus. Of course countries that haven't as successfully handled Covid19 as Britain so are less vaccinated than us will be terrified of Delta letting rip there - if I was in New Zealand or Australia right now it'd be a real concern.
I'm delighted that we vaccinated ourselves first ahead of the world. The rest of the world needs to catch up with us in learning to live with the virus, that's not a bad thing, its just a sign of our huge success that we got there before them.
Got it. So our vax rates now lagging behind chunks of Europe is cause for delight, and we are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The problem of course is that whilst England can think like that it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree and do what we say. We're going to end up getting mandatory quarantine going anywhere off this island at this rate.
That's only because most European countries are using the sleight of hand on measurement of what being vaccinated actually is. We count people with two doses as fully vaccinated, in most of Europe a prior infection and a single jab counts as being fully vaccinated.
Given that one dose plus an infection seems to confer greater immunity to Delta than "double dosed", I'm struggling to see a sleight of hand here. It sounds - just like our extending of the period between doses - as a very sensible way of rationing scarce vaccine resources, and maximising protection.
Our method produces more double dosed + previously infected though. Which are .... again more immune than one dose + infection.
I wonder why Yoons in a far away country of which we know far too fecking much are telling an LD who actually lives in Scotland what he can and can't support? Weird.
There is nothing weird about commenting on a candidate standing for election in direct contravention of the party's line
I'm fairly confident that when I stood as a Labour candidate in the council elections that advocating the extinction of humankind was not party policy.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Can't we rein in this discussion?
You're all for the high jump for this quality of punning...
I wonder why Yoons in a far away country of which we know far too fecking much are telling an LD who actually lives in Scotland what he can and can't support? Weird.
There is nothing weird about commenting on a candidate standing for election in direct contravention of the party's line
That seems odd coming from a Tory. My local MP has generally stood in direct opposition to the party line on Europe, certainly in 2010 and 2017.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Colin Pitchfork has been released. The first person in the world to be convicted using DNA evidence.
The television docudrama Code of a Killer is worth watching if available. Mrs Thatcher played a walk-on role. The mass screening was funded against Home Office concerns because of a chance meeting with DT.
It is a shame that Alec Jeffries has not won a Nobel Prize. Kary Mullis did get one for the PCR amplification of DNA samples.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
Either tactical voting yourself or advocating voters vote against your party is grounds to get you expelled from the party.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Very very easy. You will get the address (google or recommendation from your hotel) of a friendly doctor's practice, you will rock up, they will wave the swab around in the general vicinity of your face and pronounce you fit to fly.
€25 very badly spent but what can you do. I slightly bridled at the fact that were it positive you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO FLY INTO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Thanks, I was looking into the self administered ones from here which are £30 or so, they also feel like a rip off, especially given that you don't have to actually do them, just get a negative result. It's completely pointless now that everyone in the UK is eligible to be vaccinated. You probably won't agree but I'd put up a vaccine wall on flying in and out of the UK, anyone who isn't must arrange to be on quarantine flights that will go direct to the 10 day hotel prisons. This testing stuff is just so much hassle and makes weekends away a nightmare to figure out. There's no longer a life where my wife and I can just book a weekend in Rome going on Friday evening and arriving on Monday morning which is quite depressing.
So you would trade off a substantial reduction in other people’s freedom so you can enjoy a weekend away?
Those other people are free to get a vaccine. Only their stupidity is stopping them.
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
Either tactical voting yourself or advocating voters vote against your party is grounds to get you expelled from the party.
There seems to be clear logic in @Philip_Thompson 's position: if you are still fearful of covid, despite your vaccination status, you are at liberty to spend all your time in public wearing a FFP3 mask while avoiding anywhere that agitates your fear.
If you are not fearful, and want to try to live your life as normally as possible, then you are equally at liberty to abandon your mask.
I fit into the latter group, but realise that some people differ.
So what? Live and let live.
Lol - what people may or may not be fearful of is not the issue. Public health is the issue. There are plenty of wazzocks out there denying Covid and some of them win a Darwin Award by dying from it.
We're in the middle of another big spike of pox that isn't going away. You will of course insist that your government-mandated wayward behaviour has nothing to do with it.
Big spike? Deaths were down this week compared to the week before and were miniscule. If that's what you're considering a big spike then I'm quite happy to live with it.
As I said, you may be dismissive, the rest of the world is not. The pandemic (not endemic) is still ripping through the globe, with new variants being created and we know how much they are when we get them.
We may not be dying by the thousand every day thank God. But we are still a massively infected island, infection rates remain very very high compared to most other countries and its no wonder that we remain on restricted country lists in so many places.
I couldn't care less.
The entire planet needs to learn to live with the virus. Of course countries that haven't as successfully handled Covid19 as Britain so are less vaccinated than us will be terrified of Delta letting rip there - if I was in New Zealand or Australia right now it'd be a real concern.
I'm delighted that we vaccinated ourselves first ahead of the world. The rest of the world needs to catch up with us in learning to live with the virus, that's not a bad thing, its just a sign of our huge success that we got there before them.
Got it. So our vax rates now lagging behind chunks of Europe is cause for delight, and we are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
The problem of course is that whilst England can think like that it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree and do what we say. We're going to end up getting mandatory quarantine going anywhere off this island at this rate.
That's only because most European countries are using the sleight of hand on measurement of what being vaccinated actually is. We count people with two doses as fully vaccinated, in most of Europe a prior infection and a single jab counts as being fully vaccinated.
Given that one dose plus an infection seems to confer greater immunity to Delta than "double dosed", I'm struggling to see a sleight of hand here. It sounds - just like our extending of the period between doses - as a very sensible way of rationing scarce vaccine resources, and maximising protection.
Our method produces more double dosed + previously infected though. Which are .... again more immune than one dose + infection.
Given that infection with original variant Covid seems to confer 99% protection against reinfection with Delta, I can't possibly imagine that the difference is great enough to justify getting all upset.
I'm on the lookout for a compact digital or mirrorless camera which has a reasonable performance for architecture, and particularly in low light.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Budget is really what it needs to be, but I'm keen to stay some way below £1000 if I can.
Thanks
“The best camera is the one you’ve got in your pocket”
The cameras in the latest smartphones are really quite exceptional. They’re pretty much as good as any midrange standalone camera, especially with the processing capabilities.
If I were you, I’d wait until apple release their next iPhone, then buy last years pro model at a discount.
The main benefit though, as I said, is with a decent smartphone camera, you’re more likely to have it on you when a decent photo opportunity arises.
If you stand for election under a party label you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
We won't have a "manifesto". Nor does the federal party currently have a manifesto as the election was 2 years ago under a previous leader. Are Labour people now bound by the witterings of Corbyn?
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
It's one thing to vote against proposing a referendum. It's quite another to still oppose that referendum after the vote by the Scottish Parliament has been passed. I wonder if SLAB or SLID (The Tories won't) will pivot at that stage. Because once that point has been crossed it's less arguing against an indy ref, more arguing against devolved democracy itself.
No because they stand by the principle it is for Westminster to agree to it and if the UK Tory, Labour and LD parties still oppose indyref2 so will they.
The Tories obviously won't, you cannot get a handkerchief between Sarwar and Starmer and Cole-Hamilton and Davey either
This sort of argument reminds me of the GOP in the USA and quite frankly the nonsense of the 2017-19 parliament. It's attempting to deny agency to Scottish voters in the same way the Brexit vote should have been annulled because parliamentarians knew best or the state legislatures should override the democratic will of each state. A most unbecoming argument.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Can't we rein in this discussion?
I was just getting the bit between my teeth.
I'm sorry if colleagues are beginning to bridle at my remark.
I'm on the lookout for a compact digital or mirrorless camera which has a reasonable performance for architecture, and particularly in low light.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Budget is really what it needs to be, but I'm keen to stay some way below £1000 if I can.
Thanks
I have a Panasonic TZ100 which is excellent in low light, as it has a larger sensor chip than most compacts. It has reasonable wide angle capabilities and less than £400 now.
DP Review does good reviews with examples when looking for cameras. Sensor size matters a lot at low light levels.
If you're doing pictures of architecture, as opposed to something that moves, the most cost effective low light solution is a tripod.
@MattW FPT. Why are rabbits sentimentalised in Taiwan?
They are simply a common pet, and an animal not eaten. My observation, which kicked off quite a discussion, was in response to someone getting grief for eating guinea pig in Peru. The point being that all cultures divide animals into pets, food, vermin and indifferent. Not always similarly, nor logically.
Thanks. Is there a rabbit-eating history similar to how traditionally urban Chinese used to keep carp in the back garden for consumption? Compare England and the household pig fed on scraps.
So a good comparison in some ways might actually be dogs in the UK?
Horses probably more relevant
The Brits sentimalise - the French eat them
And the Swedes. I had cold sliced horse meat on my open sandwich for breakfast this morning.
I take it your neigh joking?
You gymkhana beat it.
What do you have to pony up for that?
At 22 kronor for 100 grammes, my wallet takes it at a canter.
Can't we rein in this discussion?
Too much chaff? Would you like to chew the hay over something else in its steed?
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
I wonder why Yoons in a far away country of which we know far too fecking much are telling an LD who actually lives in Scotland what he can and can't support? Weird.
There is nothing weird about commenting on a candidate standing for election in direct contravention of the party's line
That seems odd coming from a Tory. My local MP has generally stood in direct opposition to the party line on Europe, certainly in 2010 and 2017.
Any Tory parliamentary candidates (including incumbent MPs) who were not willing to vote for Brexit were deselected before the 2019 general election
What makes them think that he has done anything in the last 4 months?
I said six month ago (ish) that Liz Truss was doing more for Britain and for foreign affairs in her role than the actual Foreign Secretary.
Nothing has changed that opinion.
Her department described as "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" by Whitehall mandarins for the copy and paste continuation deals being touted as new.
Ignoring the last four words of your post for a minute, isn't that literally her job for the time being? And wasn't part of the argument against Brexit that we wouldn't be able to secure equally attractive terms on our own merits, without the EU's greater buying/negotiating power? In which case she is doing a smashing job in rolling them forwards.
Sure! We needed to roll over the trade deals we left when we exited the EU. Nobody is saying that she shouldn't be doing this.
What I think they are referring to is her claim that these are new deals. Whilst they are a new bilateral agreement they are not new trading arrangements. And yet the claim is made repeatedly that they are.
You mentioned yesterday that you hoped to be selected for the lib dems and I did ask if you would campaign for the union
I would be interested in your reply
I don't understand the question. I am a member of a federalist party. I campaigned for them against the SNP government this year. We want to sustain the union by replacing the failed current union with a new written federal UK constitution that both encompasses national parliaments and as much local devolution (to Mayors for example) as people want.
Will I campaign to preserve the status quo? No. Do I want scottish independence? No. But we WILL end up independent unless the union is made fit for the future. Westminster choosing to expel NI from the free trade zone and telling Scotland their votes count for nothing imperils the whole shebang.
Seems a complex way of saying you agree with lib dem policy in support of the Union and you will campaign against independence
Its a simple way to point out that "the union" as you define it - the current constitutional settlement - is not something we support. So no, I will not be campaigning to preserve this union, but for the creation of a new one.
So will you refuse indyref2
No! It is the expressed will of the Scottish people! A record turnout in a Holyrood election and a record number of pro-independence MSPs elected in a clear majority.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
Scottish LD policy is to oppose indyref2, if you are now a LD candidate you are obliged to support LD policy
Don't be silly. My party is wrong on this subject. And we have a healthy debate on policy issues every year at conference.
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
If you stand on a party ticket you should support that party's manifesto otherwise you are confusing voters
Do you agree with every aspect of the Conservative manifesto ?
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
Well, look at Ms Baillie - IIRC she's very keen on nukes at Faslane yet that is against Slab policy. And as my Scottish colleagues and I have pointed out, Slab can be a bit apt to urge voting for Tories. I seem to remember that HYUFD supports voting for Labour and LD in Scotland to keep the SNP out, which again is hardly party policy.
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
Either tactical voting yourself or advocating voters vote against your party is grounds to get you expelled from the party.
Indeed. No party tolerates their candidates encouraging electors to vote for a different party.
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notifiable-diseases-and-causative-organisms-how-to-report
As far as I can tell a rapist would now be able to successfully sue anyone involved in his victim's abortion if she chose to get one. Unless there is a specific restriction on that I haven't read about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_New_Zealand_general_election
Have you forgotten that argument? What happened to that?
https://www.libdems.org.uk/a20-federal-uk
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/19/near-majority-texans-favor-outlawing-abortion-after-six-weeks-ut-tt/
If she got an abortion in the first 6 weeks of pregnancy it would still be legal
Seems pretty clear that some do though. Unless BA are lying.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/09/04/liberal-democrat-phillip-lee-voting-record-same-sex-marriage-hiv-asylum-seekers/
ETA and now Dominic Raab has just described this as the "most challenging" evacuation in living memory!
Scots voted 55% to stay in the UK in the once in a generation 2014 referendum
From what I’ve read (posting today plus 1 article I googled) it seems like a daft law. But it’s a daft law without coming up with so weird example - in that case the fact that the plaintiff was the rapist doesn’t impact on his right to sue or whether an offence has been committed under the law
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22
Which looks as though it could allow the SoS to make such a provision, but afaics the SoS has not yet made such a provision.
Charles knows, but he has fucked off as he was in risk of having to back up his claims. Which is of course totally understandable. He "thinks" it is the case, and it might be the case, but he has no idea.
If I thought I'd get to within a million miles of someone at BA who actually knew I would call them this minute.
To deny indyref2 is to deny democracy - and accelerate Scotland voting to leave.
https://prod.news.stv.tv/politics/scottish-lib-dems-will-oppose-holding-indyref2-at-any-point?top
in any case only 35% of Scots want an indyref2 before the end of 2023 as Sturgeon does
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scots-split-on-snp-mandate-for-referendum-with-independence-top-priority-for-just-one-in-11-3238015
https://tinyurl.com/42783648
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54325592
@topping was all angry that a citizen with a notifiable disease wasn’t allowed to fly to their own country
I said that they weren’t allowed to fly.
So it’s not a case of outrageously restricting a citizen’s liberty. It’s a basic principle of public health that applies to everyone
Its hardly like every candidate and elected representative at every level of every party
wholeheartedly agrees with every policy that party has.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22
On the government website it says "You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad." but I wondered what the context of it was.
Because if the flu is a notifiable disease as per @Carnyx's link then we have never been in a position whereby a notifiable disease has prevented entry to this country before.
I'm on the lookout for a compact digital or mirrorless camera which has a reasonable performance for architecture, and particularly in low light.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Budget is really what it needs to be, but I'm keen to stay some way below £1000 if I can.
Thanks
He can hardly join the SNP being a unionist and all that.
On Covid the government says explicitly you need a negative test to enter the UK.
I just thought this was unprecendented. I have never heard of people being refused entry to a country but I look forward to a blessed link which shows I am wrong.
Wouldn't be the first time.
(1) The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision–
(a) for preventing danger to public health from vessels, aircraft, trains or other conveyances arriving at any place,
(b) for preventing the spread of infection or contamination by means of any vessel, aircraft, train or other conveyance leaving any place, and
(c) for giving effect to any international agreement or arrangement relating to the spread of infection or contamination.
(2) Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision–
(a) for the detention of conveyances,
(b) for the medical examination, detention, isolation or quarantine of persons,
(c) for the inspection, analysis, retention, isolation, quarantine or destruction of things,
(d) for the disinfection or decontamination of conveyances, persons or things or the application of other sanitary measures,
(e) for prohibiting or regulating the arrival or departure of conveyances and the entry or exit of persons or things,
(f) imposing duties on masters, pilots, train managers and other persons on board conveyances and on owners and managers of ports, airports and other points of entry, and
(g) requiring persons to provide information or answer questions (including information or questions relating to their health).
That is at least one power to put these sort of restrictions in. Its probably not the only one.
The Scottish government will propose a referendum, LibDem MSPs will vote against it, the government will win the vote. What would that have to with county councillors? My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - and again you show me a politician who has zero disagreement with the entire policy platform and I will point out that they are lying.
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2019/11/26/scottish-labour-ditches-opposition-to-trident-renewal-for-uk-election/
If I am elected as a Tory I will vote for and implement the Tory manifesto, tactical voting as the best means to preserve the Union, which is Tory policy does not change that
I wonder if SLAB or SLID (The Tories won't) will pivot at that stage. Because once that point has been crossed it's less arguing against an indy ref, more arguing against devolved democracy itself.
If you don't see what's wrong with that ...
In the same way we still have a few Tory councillors who oppose Brexit who would not be able to stand for Parliament now on that basis
DP Review does good reviews with examples when looking for cameras. Sensor size matters a lot at low light levels.
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Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 7) Regulations 2021/457
Health Protection (Coronavirus) (Wales) Regulations 2020/308
Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020/129
Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Information for Passengers) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2021/452
Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Information for Passengers) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2021/252
Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2021/670
Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2021/731
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Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 6) Regulations 2021/865
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Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 8) Regulations 2021/923
Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Operator Liability) (England) (Amendment) (No. 9) Regulations 2021/966
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The Tories obviously won't, you cannot get a handkerchief between Sarwar and Starmer and Cole-Hamilton and Davey either
July 28. @BBCGaryR: “The UK Government we know are considering barring those who are unvaccinated from certain events. Would that carrot and stick work?”
Deputy FM John Swinney: “I don't think so, Gary. I think it's the wrong way to handle it. I think it's the wrong way.”
https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1433066185390706699?s=20
It is a shame that Alec Jeffries has not won a Nobel Prize. Kary Mullis did get one for the PCR amplification of DNA samples.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/08/scottish-tory-leader-urges-voters-back-labour-libdems-seats/
The cameras in the latest smartphones are really quite exceptional. They’re pretty much as good as any midrange standalone camera, especially with the processing capabilities.
If I were you, I’d wait until apple release their next iPhone, then buy last years pro model at a discount.
The main benefit though, as I said, is with a decent smartphone camera, you’re more likely to have it on you when a decent photo opportunity arises.
A most unbecoming argument.