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As the days go by the Afghan crisis continues to dominate the front pages – politicalbetting.com
As the days go by the Afghan crisis continues to dominate the front pages – politicalbetting.com
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They have said any US and UK and western military presence in Afghanistan still after that date will provoke a response from them.
So we have a week to complete the process and get all refugees and troops out or face a bloodbath
There may be threats but I doubt the Taliban would want to be in a firefight at this stage
Just a few hostages gives you enormous leverage, the Taliban could seize thousands.
But the principle is the same. Going out with either is being willing to commit manslaughter or it is not.
If they are killed then he has responsibility as much as the Taliban
(US) military flights evacuated approximately 10,400 people while the coalition flights evacuated another 5,900 people
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/08/16/britons-react-collapse-afghanistan
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/mike-mullen-afghanistan-biden-right-surge-concession.html
Retired Adm. Mike Mullen, the top U.S. military officer under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, who strongly supported the “nation-building” war policy in Afghanistan, now says we should have pulled out our troops a decade ago, soon after Osama bin Laden was killed.
Mullen is thus far the only senior officer from that period who has publicly admitted that the U.S. policy—and he personally—was deeply mistaken. “It’s hard to deny the evidence in front of you,” Mullen said to me in a phone interview Monday morning.…
They did not say what you are saying
I listened to the interview
Very inefficient. But if we filled them with Extinction Rebellion protesters, we'd get much lower average CO2 emissions per passenger.
You are the one for polls, show me a poll where Brits want us to stay indefinitely
Maybe wait and see
Extending the deadline for US withdrawal is not an explicit aim of the mini-summit, this PR announcement would suggest
Pessimism growing, not least because of fears Taliban wd reissue….
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1429919943605301252?s=20
The US has had troops in South Korea for 70 years for example, to keep out North Korea
https://youtu.be/8rAmwMxQ7UY
Tens of thousands of people at risk from a cruel and evil conqueror. A race to get them out
It's like Dunkirk with Korans
I can't think what compares.
There is no run off. The highest scoring - of the fifty total - candidate wins, even if they only get 10% of the total vote.
It is entirely possible that the winner will be a Democrat you have never heard of. It’s also possible that Republican Larry Elder wins, and is immediately repealed himself.
It depends upon timescales. The Taliban know they have won and are getting control, they want the Americans gone for good and they don't want a reason for this to turn into a fight. If its a case of a one week extension would get everyone they don't want in the country out of it - and no doubt if there's backhanders going the other way - then I wouldn't rule out the possibility of an extension.
It is so shocking because we all fundamentally think that we are in the right and the Taliban are in the wrong. With Vietnam, for example, there was (quite a strong) case to be made for the Viet Cong.
Have you, kini, ever, ever had the flu and not gone out because you thought you might kill someone. All those years in the city suffering man flu. You always stayed at home. Or did you tough it out and go to work?
There's extremely little evidence that the halt order was done in order to assist the evacuation. Instead the evidence is generally considered to be that it was to allow the German infantry to catch up, to preserve their Panzers and/or to allow the Luftwaffe to have the opportunity to destroy Dunkirk which is what Goring wanted.
What's happening now is more if the infantry etc had caught up after the halt order, then they resumed movement, got into Dunkirk and then they started assisting the British etc onto the ships instead of seeking to destroy them.
The Taliban aren't on the way to the airport, they're there already and are working side-by-side and even behind British lines to assist in security. Not something Hitler would have done. 😕
Reality is a long way from @HYUFD’s interpretation
The taliban government needs sanctions lifted and funds unfreezed or there will be hundreds of thousands of starving Afghanis.
Without which their economy will crater.
But your probably right about the deadline.
Though even after that the majority of those with foreign passports will possibly be OK for a while. If it doesn’t go pear shaped.
They are now beating women for the crime of walking alone in the street. Once the cameras and troops have gone, they will only get worse. It is their nature
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1429921135949406210?s=20
I agree that the moral argument in Vietnam was much more finely balanced
Sounds amazing.
Let’s say that you knew that going out would definitely infect 1 person and that individual would die.
Isn’t that closer to murder?
If US and UK troops are still in Kabul beyond 31st that will be taken by the Taliban as defiance of them and they will respond accordingly, with firepower if needed
It could stay stable for quite some time, with slowly increasing repression. Or it could turn into a bloodbath very quickly.
That is why this is so shocking.
In 2003 the Democrats had only one (serious) candidate while the GOP had 2. But the Democrats only serious candidate got 31.5% of the vote and the Governator got 48.6% of it which is enough to win in the States in almost any election anyway due to the propensity for a couple of percentage points to go to third parties or write ins or other oddballs.
(Actually not quite as bad as it sounds.. We didn't finish all the bottles).
Hug a Talib!
There is a book going around at the moment which I am going to add to my ever growing reading list.
It deals with just the phenomenon I am talking about.
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Do_Muslim_Women_Need_Saving.html?id=zZ_3AAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y
And on that note, bon nuit tout le monde.
And by a lady, no less
https://twitter.com/AhmodShadi/status/1414476212018155521?s=20
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1429918810283388932
US military advises the White House a decision must be made Tuesday on extending the August 31 deadline, in order to have enough time for a withdrawal of the US 5,800 troops & their equipment currently present in Kabul,
@barbarastarrcnn
reports.
I vaguely recall a story about some election where some Republicans registered as Democrats, or vice versa, as part of some weird dispute and one lot wouldn't stand.
Whilst we don't even get the joybofvthe Literal Democrats to confuse things.
Its a stunning catch, that style is always stunning, but that style of catch is actually much more common than you'd expect. Seen a fair few of them this year alone.
We ended up, with the cheese course, comparing the 1982 and 1961, two very great vintages. Jolly good they were too!
PB USA branch to the rescue.
That's one of the strange things about Cricket. You can get so many absolutely incredible catches like that, while far too often see some absolute dollies get dropped.