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    MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    Aslan said:

    MrEd said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MrEd said:

    MrEd said:

    Chameleon said:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/afghanistan-airport-kabul-violence-women-b1904817.html

    “The mothers were desperate, they were getting beaten by the Taliban. They shouted, ‘save my baby’ and threw the babies at us, some of the babies fell on the barbed wire. It was awful what happened. By the end of the night there wasn’t one man among us who was not crying,” said the Parachute Regiment officer quietly.

    That's the shot, here's the chaser

    Biden’s Long Trail of Betrayals
    Why is the president so consistently wrong on major foreign-policy matters?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-record/619799/?



    Remember kids, "America's back".

    “But he’s not Trump!!”
    Quite right.

    Which is why he was still the right choice. Despite being doddery and shite.
    At what point, do you weigh up the facts and actions, against the perceptions? As someone said in the US “great, we’ve swapped bad tweets for bad policies”
    For the reasons I elucidated earlier.

    Trump - as he proved after his defeat - is a danger to democracy. And that is 100x more important than his specific policies.
    He’s an idiot. He should have accepted he lost. As I said at the time, his attempts to persuade legislatures to nullify results was wrong. That made his actions and words irresponsible, dangerous and out of order.

    But.

    If Trump really wanted to reverse democracy and impose a dictatorship, there were far more effective actions he could have taken.

    And it also misses a rather big elephant in the room when it comes to undermining democracy, namely the two years (actually four) that one of the two main political parties in the US actively pushed an agenda that the elected US President was invalid because Trump - in their eyes - had been elevated to the Presidency through Russian disinformation and underhand tricks. A view that Hillary Clinton has continued to back.

    I think it remarkable that those who get so heated about Trump do not recognise just how dangerous and anti-democratic the Democrats actions were in the years following his election.


    When did Hillary Clinton or any other prominent Democrat propose for Trump's election to be annulled because of Russian interference? This is ridiculous gaslighting and projection.
    I see William has beaten me to it but here are a few examples from Hillary and other prominent Democrats (the WSJ article has a good selection)

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump-nancy-pelosi-subpoenas-adam-schiff-4b4052672c994d9198bb445bd913b06b

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/joe-bidens-bitter-harvest-11604963930

    I condemned Trump when he was trying to overturn the 2020 election. It would be nice - and healthy - if you recognised the Democrats play dirty as well
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