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edited July 17 in General
Farage opts for retirement 2021 style – politicalbetting.com

Farage decides to take a break from the public eye https://t.co/eqhjKKJQKq

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  • adamandcatadamandcat Posts: 73
    No comment
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    We joke and not something that interests me, but his LBC show i believe did pretty well and his YouTube did ok numbers when he was more active making videos on a regular basis.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 7,212
    It's Brillo I feel sorry for. Surely he never intended to commit to all this just to end up as Farage's warm-up act.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 32,118
    edited July 17
    Fpt

    Just been to Camden Lock (don't ask) - first time in 18 months, er years. Some observations.

    1. Thousands of people there.
    2. Five in a thousand wearing masks.
    3. The British are quite an overweight lot. Especially noticeable in the hot weather.
    4. There was a pop up vaccine centre in the Stables with queues a couple of hundred yards long all day.
    5. People queuing were I'd say 18-25 on the whole.
    6. Absolutely no instances of people wearing masks stepping into the road to avoid other people wearing masks to effusive thanks.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806

    It's Brillo I feel sorry for. Surely he never intended to commit to all this just to end up as Farage's warm-up act.

    Yet it was always highly predictable. So maybe it was all part of his plan?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 7,212

    It's Brillo I feel sorry for. Surely he never intended to commit to all this just to end up as Farage's warm-up act.

    Yet it was always highly predictable. So maybe it was all part of his plan?
    I suspect Farage was a panic move - brought about by Guto and the ratings crisis. Brillo probably though he was getting into something noble at the time.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 32,118
    In other news does anyone give a flying f**k about the Olympics?
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 4,654
    Farage hot air balloon has burst.....
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 20,779
    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    edited July 17
    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Paging me because ?????
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    edited July 17
    TOPPING said:

    In other news does anyone give a flying f**k about the Olympics?

    I think the athletes will be doing plenty of flying f##king...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 32,118

    TOPPING said:

    In other news does anyone give a flying f**k about the Olympics?

    I think the athletes will be doing plenty of flying f##king...
    So I hear at all such events.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    TOPPING said:

    In other news does anyone give a flying f**k about the Olympics?

    More than those who watch GB News
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806
    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    No....remember the rule, always 2 weeks too late, with one weeks notice....so mid August.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 20,779

    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Paging me because ?????
    Because I know how much you like seeing our footballers on their hols. :)

    The PL are worried that there could be postponements galore with COVID spreading like wildfire.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    No.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Paging me because ?????
    Because I know how much you like seeing our footballers on their hols. :)

    The PL are worried that there could be postponements galore with COVID spreading like wildfire.
    Haven't they all had COVID after last years super spreading holidays / pre-season?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 20,779

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Paging me because ?????
    Because I know how much you like seeing our footballers on their hols. :)

    The PL are worried that there could be postponements galore with COVID spreading like wildfire.
    Haven't they all had COVID after last years super spreading holidays / pre-season?
    I guess it depends how likely they are to get it again.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 36,700
    Hottest temperature ever recorded in Northern Ireland today
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 1,719
    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    edited July 17
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Paging me because ?????
    Because I know how much you like seeing our footballers on their hols. :)

    The PL are worried that there could be postponements galore with COVID spreading like wildfire.
    Haven't they all had COVID after last years super spreading holidays / pre-season?
    I guess it depends how likely they are to get it again.
    Well according to the ONS survey, reinfection is incredibly rare and in all but a tiny handful of cases has resulted in very minor symptoms. The last report they did, they had found a potential 15k reinfections, 600 confirmed.

    So they can probably sing a long to Sweet Caroline as much as they like...
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 1,567

    Farage hot air balloon has burst.....

    I think 6th May 2010 will turn out to be the original turning point (whether good or bad) for the future prosperity of the UK.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    No....remember the rule, always 2 weeks too late, with one weeks notice....so mid August.
    This government leaks like a sieve. Look back to any of the previous lockdowns there were briefings before any announcement. Javid warned us to expect 100,000 cases a day. Might happen eventually, won’t happen tomorrow
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 15,670
    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I don’t think it was agreed whether it was by reporting or specimen date
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    Huge if true


  • RogerRoger Posts: 14,961
    DougSeal said:

    Huge if true


    Seriously funny! Well done.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 36,700

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 16,940
    IanB2 said:

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
    Why? We're all going to catch the virus at some point — I thought that was the whole point?
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    IanB2 said:

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
    Everyone is going to get it. They know this.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 1,719

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806
    DougSeal said:

    IanB2 said:

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
    Everyone is going to get it. They know this.
    So why are they trying to ram covid app vaccine passport (aka national id system) down our throats?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 14,961
    tlg86 said:

    Paging @FrancisUrquhart

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9797679/England-stars-belt-Euro-2020-anthem-Sweet-Caroline-joyfully-holiday-together.html

    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Onl the Daily Mail could make 'a topless Kyle walker' sound tantalising
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 10,784
    Farage on GB News. Who is getting cut to make room? Dewbs down to an hour or what?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 26,315

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    I've just geolocated the spectacular picture (see bottom of https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57862894 ) .

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Blessem,+50374+Erftstadt,+Germany/@50.8177248,6.7901552,870m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47bf16291a3dc5e3:0xa2760fee1ebe7d0!8m2!3d50.8132732!4d6.7966581

    So yes, it looks as though the sandy land has been washed into a sand pit. I'd love to see aerial pictures from other angles.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 1,290
    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 27,707

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666

    DougSeal said:

    IanB2 said:

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
    Everyone is going to get it. They know this.
    So why are they trying to ram covid app vaccine passport (aka national id system) down our throats?
    I think “ram down our throats” is an overstatement. If we were doing what Macron is doing in France, that would be ramming it down our throats, but at the moment, from Monday, you can wander into your local Spoons like it’s January 2020.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 2,809

    IanB2 said:

    Freedom Day is going to be pulled tomorrow evening isn't it?

    The Saj catching the virus isn’t a good sign
    Why? We're all going to catch the virus at some point — I thought that was the whole point?
    Remember 'flattem the curve'. We were already being told that when the government was still toying with herd immunity. Chris Whitty was still trying to promote slowing the wave on Monday,, but he seemed to be ploughing a lone furrow.

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 10,784
    edited July 17

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    This is what we need more of. Science, hopefully with experiments too. Ironically it takes us back to the start of the pandemic, when SAGE did not like masks.

    ETA on the down side, I spent £20-odd on new masks just this week.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 27,707

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 26,315

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.

    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    That's the end of several bucket wheel excavators, then. :(

    I believe I'm right in saying the coal from these mines is not exactly Welsh steam coal in quality, and rather bad for the environment (even compared to other coals)?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    That's a very misleading headline.

    The article says that *some* cloth masks do little good because they are full of holes.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,929
    Re: discussion about Zoe. Zoe only measures symptomatic cases, so if vaccines are very poor against infection, but not illness, then the two could become very rapidly misaligned.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 2,693
    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    I think that’s about right, Javed’s expectation management of 100,000 per day and the modelling saying peak deaths in mid-August would support it too.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 27,707

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    This is what we need more of. Science, hopefully with experiments too. Ironically it takes us back to the start of the pandemic, when SAGE did not like masks.

    ETA on the down side, I spent £20-odd on new masks just this week.
    Nothing new there. FFP3 masks filter out aerosol surgical masks get droplets, cloth masks 50% or less.

    FFP3 masks are available now on a number of sites including amazon. They are often good for a few days if you are careful. Unvalved are rather stuffy, but protect other people completely as well as the wearer (if correctly fitted), valved masks only protect the wearer to that degree, but are much more comfortable, they have less benefit for bystanders.

    I will be wearing a valved FFP3 for my trip to London tommorow.
  • GnudGnud Posts: 298
    edited July 17
    Roger said:

    DougSeal said:

    Huge if true


    Seriously funny! Well done.
    Huge, very pliable and attenuated, or he's got at least four.

    Cummings is seriously losing it. He has retweeted a self-promotional ad by Toby Ord, senior research fellow at (ahem) Oxford University's "Future of Humanity Institute", led by Nick Bostrom, author of the "simulation hypothesis". In a time when a great deal of seriousness is needed, such as right now when there's a pandemic on, Bostrom should do us all a favour and store his simulation hypothesis where at least one English football supporter likes to keep his flare.

    But I've downloaded "Future Proof" and will read it.

    It's almost as if there's about to be a change of reign or something.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,929
    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    I think that’s about right, Javed’s expectation management of 100,000 per day and the modelling saying peak deaths in mid-August would support it too.
    Expectation management was based on vaccines controlling infection though.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 27,707
    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    Probably isolating. He was in a meeting with Javid yesterday.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 16,940
    Foxy said:

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    This is what we need more of. Science, hopefully with experiments too. Ironically it takes us back to the start of the pandemic, when SAGE did not like masks.

    ETA on the down side, I spent £20-odd on new masks just this week.
    Nothing new there. FFP3 masks filter out aerosol surgical masks get droplets, cloth masks 50% or less.

    FFP3 masks are available now on a number of sites including amazon. They are often good for a few days if you are careful. Unvalved are rather stuffy, but protect other people completely as well as the wearer (if correctly fitted), valved masks only protect the wearer to that degree, but are much more comfortable, they have less benefit for bystanders.

    I will be wearing a valved FFP3 for my trip to London tommorow.
    I wear the same single-use surgical face mask for about a month at a time and I've yet to catch Covid as far as I know.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    130,000 on 14th August
  • RogerRoger Posts: 14,961
    Foxy said:

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
    'Global Warming' is in serious need of a rebranding. Very difficult to get people worked up about it particularly in winter. Something like 'Global Fallout' would work better
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 16,940
    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
    'Global Warming' is in serious need of a rebranding. Very difficult to get people worked up about it particularly in winter. Something like 'Global Fallout' would work better
    "Climate Change"
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 1,719
    Foxy said:

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
    Yes, although do note that massive floods in this part of Europe aren't unprecedented. The Aahr river basin had monster floods in 1910 and 1804.

    It will take a long time to fill a hole that big, so I'd hope nobody was caught out.
    https://twitter.com/StubbeWolfgang/status/1415341565204221963
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,929

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    130,000 on 14th August
    Not counting on breakup of schools having a significant impact?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 1,290
    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    alex_ said:

    DougSeal said:

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    I think that’s about right, Javed’s expectation management of 100,000 per day and the modelling saying peak deaths in mid-August would support it too.
    Expectation management was based on vaccines controlling infection though.
    He made that statement less than two weeks ago.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 52,109
    tlg86 said:


    England stars Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Kyle Walker and Declan Rice have been shown together singing along passionately to Neil Diamond's hit 'Sweet Caroline' while on holiday in Mykonos after Euro 2020.

    Coming out party?
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    alex_ said:

    Re: discussion about Zoe. Zoe only measures symptomatic cases, so if vaccines are very poor against infection, but not illness, then the two could become very rapidly misaligned.

    Fair
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,929

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 1,719

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.

    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    That's the end of several bucket wheel excavators, then. :(

    I believe I'm right in saying the coal from these mines is not exactly Welsh steam coal in quality, and rather bad for the environment (even compared to other coals)?
    Indeed, it is lignite, which is peat based coal and high in sulphur. It doesn't really burn particularly well either - the calorific value is nothing like Welsh coal. It does come in big volumes though...

    The German problem with nuclear power is an environmental disaster in many ways.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 27,707
    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Taking the micky I think.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    I've just geolocated the spectacular picture (see bottom of https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57862894 ) .

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Blessem,+50374+Erftstadt,+Germany/@50.8177248,6.7901552,870m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47bf16291a3dc5e3:0xa2760fee1ebe7d0!8m2!3d50.8132732!4d6.7966581

    So yes, it looks as though the sandy land has been washed into a sand pit. I'd love to see aerial pictures from other angles.
    The price of Australian seabourne coal has doubled (albeit from a very low level) in the last 10 months.

    See: https://www.investing.com/commodities/newcastle-coal-futures
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 6,929
    Foxy said:

    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Taking the micky I think.
    I can’t read londonpubman at all
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    edited July 17

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    This is what we need more of. Science, hopefully with experiments too. Ironically it takes us back to the start of the pandemic, when SAGE did not like masks.

    ETA on the down side, I spent £20-odd on new masks just this week.
    Just get a reusable respirator FFP3 one. Cost about £40, and you just have to change the filters every so often which cost a few £. I've spent total of about £60 whole pandemic on masks.

    Added benefit they are adjustable and actually stay on, so no constant pissing about adjusting it that i see most people spending half their life doing.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    130,000 on 14th August
    Given that school will have broken up, which will dramatically cut both the number of tests and the transmission vectors, that seems unduly pessimistic.

    Scottish cases have dropped from a peak of around 4,000/day immediately following break-up, to 2,000 now.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806
    CDC Director: "This is becoming the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The #DeltaVariant is racing through the unvaccinated communities."
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 4,654
    DougSeal said:

    TOPPING said:

    In other news does anyone give a flying f**k about the Olympics?

    More than those who watch GB News
    I think that's what they are doing because they are not watching GBNews 🤔😏😕😅
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    edited July 17
    Foxy said:

    Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Sage adviser warns

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/

    This is what we need more of. Science, hopefully with experiments too. Ironically it takes us back to the start of the pandemic, when SAGE did not like masks.

    ETA on the down side, I spent £20-odd on new masks just this week.
    Nothing new there. FFP3 masks filter out aerosol surgical masks get droplets, cloth masks 50% or less.

    FFP3 masks are available now on a number of sites including amazon. They are often good for a few days if you are careful. Unvalved are rather stuffy, but protect other people completely as well as the wearer (if correctly fitted), valved masks only protect the wearer to that degree, but are much more comfortable, they have less benefit for bystanders.

    I will be wearing a valved FFP3 for my trip to London tommorow.
    Best place i found people who sell H&S equipment to trade e.g. Zoro

    You know the masks are most likely legit for starters, as they can't afford to flog dodgy masks to people working in high risk environments like paint booths or construction sites with high dust issues.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 4,654
    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
    'Global Warming' is in serious need of a rebranding. Very difficult to get people worked up about it particularly in winter. Something like 'Global Fallout' would work better
    I supposes it passes you by in the South of France...
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 1,290
    alex_ said:

    Foxy said:

    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Taking the micky I think.
    I can’t read londonpubman at all
    I do post in English. I am not good at foreign languages.

    But my posts are genuine.

    👿
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.

    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    That's the end of several bucket wheel excavators, then. :(

    I believe I'm right in saying the coal from these mines is not exactly Welsh steam coal in quality, and rather bad for the environment (even compared to other coals)?
    Assuming it's lignite (i.e. brown coal), then yes - it's low energy, high sulfur content.

    It is, however, very cheap to mine as it is all surface strip mining. And if you put the power plant and the coal mine in the same place, you eliminate one of the most annoying parts of coal energy generation - the getting of the coal from mine to plant.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 12,798
    Nigel Farage, the Roland Rat of GBNews.

    But can he save it, as the rodent saved TVam? Hmmm, no.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671
    Did anyone notice that the vaccinology professor at Oxford is called Mathew Snape.

    Vaccinology is practically potions, if you ask me.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 52,109
    If anyone wants a giggle:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_Q5xoqqdmYEzU3Z8FSLgzk0lYyCw5Ot1/view

    Of course the biggest laugh will be when the Electoral Commission rules that it can't be "Yes/No" but "Leave/Remain".....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 44,806
    alex_ said:

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    130,000 on 14th August
    Not counting on breakup of schools having a significant impact?
    Counter acted by Freedom Day everyone goes bonkers?

    To be honest I read a tweet about a model from I think Bath uni that said ≈ 2500 hospitalisations a day by mid August and then did a work backwards. But all very rough. Might as well stick a finger in the air.
  • GnudGnud Posts: 298
    edited July 17

    CDC Director: "This is becoming the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The #DeltaVariant is racing through the unvaccinated communities."

    WTF are "unvaccinated communities"?

    Demographics in which there has been a relatively low take-up (such as - I guess - registered Republicans in Florida), those I can understand.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 69,759
    DougSeal said:

    Huge if true


    Sad to see Cummings needing to revert to MSM cliches.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 21,319
    edited July 17
    I see Bolton now has 2 days of cases above their May 7-day average peak.

    The mathematically impossible has happened!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 26,315

    Foxy said:

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.


    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    There is a certain karma to it. Global warming closes coal mine, but I hope no one was in it when it flooded.
    Yes, although do note that massive floods in this part of Europe aren't unprecedented. The Aahr river basin had monster floods in 1910 and 1804.

    It will take a long time to fill a hole that big, so I'd hope nobody was caught out.
    https://twitter.com/StubbeWolfgang/status/1415341565204221963
    From what I've read, one person is missing from the mine.

    Talking about big floods, a while back I was reading about the Missoula floods (*). Up to 40 different events, with one every fifty or so years, each releasing between 9 and 15 cubic miles of water per hour, which ran at up to 36 metres per second.

    That is cubic miles of water.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods

    (*) Perhaps prompted by a comment on here?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 69,759
    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Anecdotally, and in contrast to previous times of rising cases, in my experiene people are not worrying as much about the current surge. They are worrying more than the government is, still plenty of people thinking reopening is a mistake and planning for longer term restrictions whereever possible, but I wonder if while we can all see the cases rise people, currently at any rate, just don't feel the situation as being as worrisome as previously.

    I predicted when/if deaths reach 100 per day people will start really panicking again, but given how cautious people claim to be on Covid matters I'm surprised the panicking has not really taken off yet.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    I have been busy with organising my sons wedding two weeks today and just logged on to read this and shake my head with disbelief at this post

    No matter how much you despise any politician is this really necessary
    Haters gotta hate Big G

    But he thinks he is progressive .....

    Funny old world
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 1,290

    alex_ said:

    Foxy said:

    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Taking the micky I think.
    I can’t read londonpubman at all
    I do post in English. I am not good at foreign languages.

    But my posts are genuine.

    👿
    And. I know not everyone on here agrees with what I say. But I do try to project the genuine London opinion on COVID.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    To go back to the German floods, it looks like as well as digging a massive sand quarry on a flood plain, there was also a coal mine:
    https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/imgs/48/1/1/0/7/7/6/8/8/9/tok_07f1bf0b460f5adc5135a1e97dadbb86/w1900_h766_x1796_y725_ZVA_mdb_27252829424978345-6cc816303862f785.jpg

    This is a very large mine and you have to wonder if any coal fired power stations might go short. Buy Australian coal futures...

    When this happened in near Leeds it took years to pump it out.

    Sorry for replying to my own post....

    The (lignite) mine is owned by RWE
    https://www.rwe.com/en/our-portfolio/our-sites/inden-mine-site

    Reading the blurb tells me that the river was diverted around the mine in some super-eco friendly way. Unfortunately it decided to follow its old course during the flood - straight into the mine.

    Hubris doesn't cover it.
    That's the end of several bucket wheel excavators, then. :(

    I believe I'm right in saying the coal from these mines is not exactly Welsh steam coal in quality, and rather bad for the environment (even compared to other coals)?
    Indeed, it is lignite, which is peat based coal and high in sulphur. It doesn't really burn particularly well either - the calorific value is nothing like Welsh coal. It does come in big volumes though...

    The German problem with nuclear power is an environmental disaster in many ways.
    The German nuclear plants were all getting really old - they were also of various different types, made by (and owned by) different companies, so you didn't get the advantage of the French system where at least all the plants were the same.

    This meant that maintenance costs had already started rising. Metal, seals, etc all get weakened by being in a nuclear power plant - whether through thermal cycles or the bombardment of radiation.

    Now, if the German government had not mandated their shutdown, would they have continued for another ten years or so? Probably. But they were on their way out already, because you can't extend plant life indefinitely, maintenance costs were rising, and (as Hinckley Point C has demonstrated) there is no economic case for building new nuclear.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666
    kle4 said:

    alex_ said:

    Total COVID meltdown. I'm staying in. Actually that's not true I am in an Indian restaurant. After 4 pints.

    Will deaths be up to 1,000 a day by end July?

    I am wearing a mask everywhere.

    It's very scary.

    QTWTAIN. They are 41 today. You are contemplating an overwhelming and sudden breakdown in vaccine protection.

    IMO
    Anecdotally, and in contrast to previous times of rising cases, in my experiene people are not worrying as much about the current surge. They are worrying more than the government is, still plenty of people thinking reopening is a mistake and planning for longer term restrictions whereever possible, but I wonder if while we can all see the cases rise people, currently at any rate, just don't feel the situation as being as worrisome as previously.

    I predicted when/if deaths reach 100 per day people will start really panicking again, but given how cautious people claim to be on Covid matters I'm surprised the panicking has not really taken off yet.
    It’s summer, the sun is out, contrast this with the situation in the second wave.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Good for him if true

    https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1416456419881242624

    EXCLUSIVE Starmer set to expel 1,000 far left Labour members in four ‘poisonous’ groups

    Corbyn included?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 65,504
    I've just been shown as ad for holidays to New Zealand on YouTube....fat chance of that happening.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 1,290

    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    I have been busy with organising my sons wedding two weeks today and just logged on to read this and shake my head with disbelief at this post

    No matter how much you despise any politician is this really necessary
    Lot of nasty people on here just posting their bile on Boris and the government.

    Good job centre moderate types like me keep it reasonable.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 6,666

    alex_ said:

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    I see yesterday wasn't the peak. Did anyone record all the predictions?

    I didn't post a prediction yesterday. Looks a mess. No top. Maybe 200,000 a day by end July?

    😠
    I went for Wednesday 28th July. Number hard to forecast. I would go for 90 000 reported that day.
    130,000 on 14th August
    Not counting on breakup of schools having a significant impact?
    Counter acted by Freedom Day everyone goes bonkers?

    To be honest I read a tweet about a model from I think Bath uni that said ≈ 2500 hospitalisations a day by mid August and then did a work backwards. But all very rough. Might as well stick a finger in the air.
    I really don’t think everyone will go bonkers. That was the Euros.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671

    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    I have been busy with organising my sons wedding two weeks today and just logged on to read this and shake my head with disbelief at this post

    No matter how much you despise any politician is this really necessary
    I thought he was talking about @Leon
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 46,446
    Floater said:

    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    I have been busy with organising my sons wedding two weeks today and just logged on to read this and shake my head with disbelief at this post

    No matter how much you despise any politician is this really necessary
    Haters gotta hate Big G

    But he thinks he is progressive .....

    Funny old world
    We have enough hate in this world and maybe it is time to call it out

    I would have thought the experiences of our footballers and the huge support they have received from across the political divide against hate and racism is a real moment for decency
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 41,671
    Gnud said:

    CDC Director: "This is becoming the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The #DeltaVariant is racing through the unvaccinated communities."

    WTF are "unvaccinated communities"?

    Demographics in which there has been a relatively low take-up (such as - I guess - registered Republicans in Florida), those I can understand.
    Some American counties - rural ones in Red states - have only vaccinated 20-25% of adults.

    Right now, the schools are out. But in a month, they return. Small towns may get absolutely hammered by Delta as a single case in a high school infects everyone.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 30,224
    murali_s said:

    As COVID cases soar in the UK, where is the disingenuous racist fat fornicator? Has the ugly m'f*cker found a fridge to hide in?

    Without doubt, you are the most consistently repulsive poster on this forum.
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