@Richard_Tyndall "My Great Great Great Uncle was the scientist John Tyndall - the bloke that discovered why the sky is blue..."
Great stuff. I am not familiar with the full history of it, but I will check it out. I learned that the sky is blue, and sunsets red, owing to Rayleigh scattering together with Einstein's observations on random thermal motion (so that molecules scatter essentially incoherently). At Bristol the physicists are located at the Royal Fort, Tyndall Avenue. Maybe there's a connection?
Yes. Interesting. Rayleigh scattering is simpler than Tyndall scattering in that the former applies to small particles (eg air molecules), for which a simple (Rayleigh) formula exists. The latter applies to much larger colloidal particles the scattering from which general properties can be stated but not in detail, for each case may be different. The general frequency dependence is similar in both cases so the "sky is blue" explanation works for both, together with Einstein's thermal randomness contribution .
What a lovely bit of family history. I used to work in that area of Bristol (in another discipline) so checked - different bunch of Tyndalls who owned the Royal Fort House, it seems, nothing to do with Huxley's chum alas. See http://www.phy.bris.ac.uk/people/berry_mv/the_papers/Berry410.pdf
@Toms "Yes. Interesting. Rayleigh scattering is simpler than Tyndall scattering in that the former applies to small particles (eg air molecules), for which a simple (Rayleigh) formula exists. The latter applies to much larger colloidal particles the scattering from which general properties can be stated but not in detail, for each case may be different." Yes. I was going to say that. You took the words right right out of my mouth.
Most of Tim's betting posts involved making completely ludicrously worded challenges that no one in their right mind would accept. And on the odd occasion people did try to pin him down to a proper bet he would run a mile.
No they weren't and you know they weren't. They are the kind of posts he made to those who regularly attacked him and his betting stances and were always outnumbered by the tips and just the general raising of the betting aspects of one political story or another.
The fact we have had two long term posters now return to PB after he left is a great thing as far as I am concerned.
Who didn't leave because of tim no matter what their pitiful excuses are now. I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject.
On the question of UKIP and Gove, I am far more interested in whether what Gove is doing is right or not for our education system than what impact it has upon UKIP. Given that I believe his educational reforms are both necessary and right then I would rather see UKIP lose a few votes than Gove be diverted from his good work.
Someone obsessed with posturing is hugely unlikely to have the best interests of the ministry he currently represents in mind. Currently that's the education system. Gove would be no different in his peculiar stances in any other department. If he were Foreign Sec he would adopt a pretty rabid NeoCon line and go out of his way to antagonise those who disagreed with that. A fact which was underlined by his massive hissy fit against tory rebels after Cameron's Syria debacle. He's just not very good and his team of rabid spads are an extension of his pointlessly antagonistic persona.
I didn't hate tim although we sometimes argued, but I reckon you are wrong about Socrates (if he is one of the returnees you are talking about)
He left because of tim, no doubt..
Nope. As I said I could find the posts with a bit of time. Who he tried to blame it on is irrelevant and just for the sake of clarity it wasn't just tim he blamed it on when he left of his own accord.
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
I'm starting to wonder if the mere existence of Michael Gove might lead, not only to a Labour government, but to Britain's first successful communist insurrection. Just the way his surname is spelt, so horribly reminiscent of Hove, will lead to inner city riots of a scale we have never witnessed hitherto.
Indeed - Gove should be made illegal at the first convenient moment. For now, slapping an ASBO on him will suffice.
As for those saying "well what about parents" - Labour have a considerable lead over the Conservatives on the issue of Education. So that's that settled yeah?
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
Well he is not banned so his reasons are his own, personally I think he got a bit of his own medicine and didn't like it.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
Well he is not banned so his reasons are his own, personally I think he got a bit of his own medicine and didn't like it.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
So you would be fine with your wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes?
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
Well he is not banned so his reasons are his own, personally I think he got a bit of his own medicine and didn't like it.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
So you would be fine with your wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes?
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
Well he is not banned so his reasons are his own, personally I think he got a bit of his own medicine and didn't like it.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
So you would be fine with your wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes?
Of course you wouldn't so drop the bullsh*t.
What had he done to provoke such an action?
For god's sake stop trying to blame him for what someone else did. It looks pathetic. There was and is no justification possible for those actions. Actions which would see anyone banned for life in all the websites I have worked on and been closely involved in over a decade. Apart from this one obviously. I'm still NOT calling for anyone to be banned on here even now just so we are crystal clear. I leave that to the PB tories.
" I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject."
Go on then, Mr. P. Find mine, oh, and tell me in detail why I abjured this site for so long.
Did tim BAN you?
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Nope and I didn't flounce. Just wanted to call you on your, " I remember why they left in detail and could quite probably find their posts on the subject." post, because, and lets face it, Mr. P.,you were talking out of your bottom when you said that.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
No I was talking about Socrates and Plato as I'm afraid I didn't consider you among the prominent posters who had stopped posting and came back. Whether your posts were as bottom obsessed as your current valuable output I really can't say as I didn't notice you were gone. It's quite possible RT was talking about you though he didn't specify it.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
Well he is not banned so his reasons are his own, personally I think he got a bit of his own medicine and didn't like it.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
So you would be fine with your wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes?
Of course you wouldn't so drop the bullsh*t.
What had he done to provoke such an action?
For god's sake stop trying to blame him for what someone else did. It looks pathetic. There was and is no justification possible for those actions. Actions which would see anyone banned for life in all the websites I have worked on and been closely involved in over a decade. Apart from this one obviously. I'm still NOT calling for anyone to be banned on here even now just so we are crystal clear. I leave that to the PB tories.
I genuinely don't know what has gone on, I only post on here occasionally and manage to get myself banned regularly. I have sparred with Tim but always quite liked him, he never seemed to bear a grudge in my case at least
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
I genuinely don't know what has gone on, I only post on here occasionally and manage to get myself banned regularly. I have sparred with Tim but always quite liked him, he never seemed to bear a grudge in my case at least
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
Sorry, was there some part of "wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes" that went over your head?
You aren't just being obtuse you're burying your head in the sand and I'm afraid the only plausable reason would appear to be because the poster it was done to didn't share your political views.
I genuinely don't know what has gone on, I only post on here occasionally and manage to get myself banned regularly. I have sparred with Tim but always quite liked him, he never seemed to bear a grudge in my case at least
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
Sorry, was there some part of "wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes" that went over your head?
You aren't just being obtuse you're burying your head in the sand and I'm afraid the only plausable reason would appear to be because the poster it was done to didn't share your political views.
I couldn't care less about someone else's political views, this site is not only about betting but also the merits or otherwise of opposing views. I come here for betting tips and banter, without opposite views to mine what would be the point?
I understood what you were saying, I'm not completely stupid, but I wasn't around when it happened. If that is the case as you say it is well out of order and possibly illegal, but I am still curious as to who was the perpetrator and what provoked it.
I genuinely don't know what has gone on, I only post on here occasionally and manage to get myself banned regularly. I have sparred with Tim but always quite liked him, he never seemed to bear a grudge in my case at least
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
Sorry, was there some part of "wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes" that went over your head?
You aren't just being obtuse you're burying your head in the sand and I'm afraid the only plausable reason would appear to be because the poster it was done to didn't share your political views.
I couldn't care less about someone else's political views, this site is not only about betting but also the merits or otherwise of opposing views. I come here for betting tips and banter, without opposite views to mine what would be the point?
I understood what you were saying, I'm not completely stupid, but I wasn't around when it happened. If that is the case as you say it is well out of order and possibly illegal, but I am still curious as to who was the perpetrator and what provoked it.
I was around. I saw the whole thing. As did more than one PB tory and quite obviously those whose job is to look after the site. It happened and that which preceded it was of no consquence and barely even rated against some of the other things that have been said on PB.
I genuinely don't know what has gone on, I only post on here occasionally and manage to get myself banned regularly. I have sparred with Tim but always quite liked him, he never seemed to bear a grudge in my case at least
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
Sorry, was there some part of "wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes" that went over your head?
You aren't just being obtuse you're burying your head in the sand and I'm afraid the only plausable reason would appear to be because the poster it was done to didn't share your political views.
I couldn't care less about someone else's political views, this site is not only about betting but also the merits or otherwise of opposing views. I come here for betting tips and banter, without opposite views to mine what would be the point?
I understood what you were saying, I'm not completely stupid, but I wasn't around when it happened. If that is the case as you say it is well out of order and possibly illegal, but I am still curious as to who was the perpetrator and what provoked it.
I was around. I saw the whole thing. As did more than one PB tory and quite obviously those whose job is to look after the site. It happened and that which preceded it was of no consquence and barely even rated against some of the other things that have been said on PB.
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See http://www.phy.bris.ac.uk/people/berry_mv/the_papers/Berry410.pdf
Thanks for that. I shall keep the article.
Oh, and last (maybe)
"Yes. Interesting. Rayleigh scattering is simpler than Tyndall scattering in that the former applies to small particles (eg air molecules), for which a simple (Rayleigh) formula exists. The latter applies to much larger colloidal particles the scattering from which general properties can be stated but not in detail, for each case may be different."
Yes. I was going to say that. You took the words right right out of my mouth.
Then perhaps you shouldn't flaunt your flounce quite so much.
Anyway, no need to dwell on the past when the future holds so much promise.
I am no Tory but Gove is doing a fantastic job.
As for the future you'd better be prepared to flounce again because unless Mike has lost his marbles completely tim will be back since it certainly wasn't tim who was grossly and blatantly in the wrong. Yet for reasons that still seem utterly incomprehensible he's the one who isn't posting here right now.
One valuable lesson in life, if you can't take it don't dish it out.
Of course you wouldn't so drop the bullsh*t.
Not trying to be obtuse but I really don't know the full story, only that Tim had upset a lot of people.
Sorry, was there some part of "wife and childrens names, details and location being maliciously posted on here against your wishes" that went over your head?
You aren't just being obtuse you're burying your head in the sand and I'm afraid the only plausable reason would appear to be because the poster it was done to didn't share your political views.
I understood what you were saying, I'm not completely stupid, but I wasn't around when it happened. If that is the case as you say it is well out of order and possibly illegal, but I am still curious as to who was the perpetrator and what provoked it.
Just for the record I am not a Tory.