The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
Aren't they just going to delay a decision until the COP meeting we are hosting is over?
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
Aren't they just going to delay a decision until the COP meeting we are hosting is over?
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
Aren't they just going to delay a decision until the COP meeting we are hosting is over?
And we have a winner. Smile and shake hands with Joe, then give the green light after Air Force One leaves to spread some CO2 over the Atlantic...
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
So you missed the GE announcement earlier today of 750 jobs on teesside
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
So you missed the GE announcement earlier today of 750 jobs on teesside
Yes I did so very good news for Teesside
And further innovative manufacturing in the green economy for Cumbria and elsewhere would be ideal
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
Aren't they just going to delay a decision until the COP meeting we are hosting is over?
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
Wind and tide are uncorrelated and lagoons are capacitors.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
Being told I lecture when every CasinoRoyale post is lecturing somebody about how they are wrong is peak PB to be honest, there is nobody more condescending here than CR. It's a shame as they can post good stuff, it's just undone almost completely by the utter nonsensical rubbish they post at other times.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
Wind and tide are uncorrelated and lagoons are capacitors.
The lagoons aren't big enough capacitors to profitably work on demand to make up for when the wind pressure is wrong.
It doesn't matter that they're uncorrelated. Uncorrelated inconsistent things can be at a minimum both at the same time. The tide is predictable which is great if the alternative power supply can be used on-demand, but is not much use when its not. Its entirely possible for wind pressure and tidal pressure to be wrong in which case what do you?
Wind + on demand works. Tide + on demand works Wind + tide . . . how does that work?
We need something on demand. Currently that's gas, in the future we need a clean alternative to gas.
Probably innocently meant, but how would it look? "Nice going with your little assemblies, now let the big boys show you how it's done".
Also it's the Welsh Parliament now, not Assembly, I believe
Another bloody silly idea. Imagine Mogg's reaction if (before we had left) it had been proposed by EU that the EU Parliament sits in Westminster for two weeks every September.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
This mine must be allowed. It is the worst type of tokenism that this should be mired in delay whilst we import coal, and people could be earning money.
Labour's comments on this are particularly shameful and reprehensible.
I have to say that the news on the coal mine is some of the best news I have heard for ages.
We have to stop digging carbon up and putting it in the atmosphere. We will only get really serious about finding alternatives when we make the status quo more difficult.
No new mine, concentrate on the technology to make steel without coking coal.
In 2019, China approved 17 new coal mines. In 2019, the UK imported 6.5 million metric tonnes of coal because we NEED it. Clearly you find it more acceptable to import coal (burning a great deal of fuel in the process) from other countries, rather than getting it out of the ground in this country. It's pathetic flimsy hypocrisy.
China is still a net closer of coal mines, mind. It's also essentially impossible to open a new coal fired power station there, and they're moving towards natural gas like everyone else.
But the big issue is a simpler one: coal mining declined in the UK because it's cheaper to get coal from big open pit mines in Australia, South Africa, the USA or Colombia than from deep mines in the UK.
The spot price for Powder River Basin Coal (which admittedly is not high enough BTU to be used for coking coal) is around $11/tonne.
I doubt there's a single deep mine in the world that can produce coal for less than $100/tonne.
Now you can probably almost make the numbers work for coking coal in small quantities. But if you own a steel mill, and the price of Appalachian coal drops to $60 and you're paying $120 for coal from Cumbria, then you (the steel mill) are out of business.
So, is the right option to force British steel producers to pay uneconomic prices for coal? Or is it to let the market decide? Which, in all probability, will mean we have marginal levels of coal production in the UK.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
When does the tide go wrong?
Power generation isn't consistent 24/7 (and even if it was that wouldn't assist low wind pressure on demand requirements).
Power generation cycles predictably with the tides. Predictability is great if your alternative power sources like gas are able to work on demand. Not so much when you want to use it to replace on demand like gas.
Probably innocently meant, but how would it look? "Nice going with your little assemblies, now let the big boys show you how it's done".
Also it's the Welsh Parliament now, not Assembly, I believe
Another bloody silly idea. Imagine Mogg's reaction if (before we had left) it had been proposed by EU that the EU Parliament sits in Westminster for two weeks every September.
This mine must be allowed. It is the worst type of tokenism that this should be mired in delay whilst we import coal, and people could be earning money.
Labour's comments on this are particularly shameful and reprehensible.
I have to say that the news on the coal mine is some of the best news I have heard for ages.
We have to stop digging carbon up and putting it in the atmosphere. We will only get really serious about finding alternatives when we make the status quo more difficult.
No new mine, concentrate on the technology to make steel without coking coal.
In 2019, China approved 17 new coal mines. In 2019, the UK imported 6.5 million metric tonnes of coal because we NEED it. Clearly you find it more acceptable to import coal (burning a great deal of fuel in the process) from other countries, rather than getting it out of the ground in this country. It's pathetic flimsy hypocrisy.
China is still a net closer of coal mines, mind. It's also essentially impossible to open a new coal fired power station there, and they're moving towards natural gas like everyone else.
But the big issue is a simpler one: coal mining declined in the UK because it's cheaper to get coal from big open pit mines in Australia, South Africa, the USA or Colombia than from deep mines in the UK.
The spot price for Powder River Basin Coal (which admittedly is not high enough BTU to be used for coking coal) is around $11/tonne.
I doubt there's a single deep mine in the world that can produce coal for less than $100/tonne.
Now you can probably almost make the numbers work for coking coal in small quantities. But if you own a steel mill, and the price of Appalachian coal drops to $60 and you're paying $120 for coal from Cumbria, then you (the steel mill) are out of business.
So, is the right option to force British steel producers to pay uneconomic prices for coal? Or is it to let the market decide? Which, in all probability, will mean we have marginal levels of coal production in the UK.
I appreciate your insight in these matters - really. I remember the above information from when we spoke before and I believe you 100%. However, this is not relevant to the controversy surrounding the current site. This is a private company wanting to use private resources to get coal out of the ground, and who have obviously calculated that they can make a profit in so doing. The pit has been approved, and it should not be stopped by lobbyists.
One of these activist companies I looked into recently had over half its annual income from the DFID - some hundreds of thousands. I deeply dis-appreciate my money being spent on employing these little herberts, so they can agitate to stop actual *productive* economic activity.
This mine must be allowed. It is the worst type of tokenism that this should be mired in delay whilst we import coal, and people could be earning money.
Labour's comments on this are particularly shameful and reprehensible.
I have to say that the news on the coal mine is some of the best news I have heard for ages.
We have to stop digging carbon up and putting it in the atmosphere. We will only get really serious about finding alternatives when we make the status quo more difficult.
No new mine, concentrate on the technology to make steel without coking coal.
In 2019, China approved 17 new coal mines. In 2019, the UK imported 6.5 million metric tonnes of coal because we NEED it. Clearly you find it more acceptable to import coal (burning a great deal of fuel in the process) from other countries, rather than getting it out of the ground in this country. It's pathetic flimsy hypocrisy.
China is still a net closer of coal mines, mind. It's also essentially impossible to open a new coal fired power station there, and they're moving towards natural gas like everyone else.
But the big issue is a simpler one: coal mining declined in the UK because it's cheaper to get coal from big open pit mines in Australia, South Africa, the USA or Colombia than from deep mines in the UK.
The spot price for Powder River Basin Coal (which admittedly is not high enough BTU to be used for coking coal) is around $11/tonne.
I doubt there's a single deep mine in the world that can produce coal for less than $100/tonne.
Now you can probably almost make the numbers work for coking coal in small quantities. But if you own a steel mill, and the price of Appalachian coal drops to $60 and you're paying $120 for coal from Cumbria, then you (the steel mill) are out of business.
So, is the right option to force British steel producers to pay uneconomic prices for coal? Or is it to let the market decide? Which, in all probability, will mean we have marginal levels of coal production in the UK.
I appreciate your insight in these matters - really. I remember the above information from when we spoke before and I believe you 100%. However, this is not relevant to the controversy surrounding the current site. This is a private company wanting to use private resources to get coal out of the ground, and who have obviously calculated that they can make a profit in so doing. The pit has been approved, and it should not be stopped by lobbyists.
One of these activist companies I looked into recently had over half its annual income from the DFID - some hundreds of thousands. I deeply dis-appreciate my money being spent on employing these little herberts, so they can agitate to stop actual *productive* economic activity.
And I agree that they should be free to build their mine, so long as they're not using government money to do so.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
Novavax trials have completed, and it is 96% effective in original strain CV19 (better than Pfizer, etc). However, Novavax's efficacy drops off rather sharply against South African CV19, dropping to just 55%.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Worth noting that the combined capacity of all the Tesla Gigabatteries - installed and under construction - in the world, is only about a fifth of the capacity of the Dinorwig pumped storage plant in Wales.
This mine must be allowed. It is the worst type of tokenism that this should be mired in delay whilst we import coal, and people could be earning money.
Labour's comments on this are particularly shameful and reprehensible.
I have to say that the news on the coal mine is some of the best news I have heard for ages.
We have to stop digging carbon up and putting it in the atmosphere. We will only get really serious about finding alternatives when we make the status quo more difficult.
No new mine, concentrate on the technology to make steel without coking coal.
In 2019, China approved 17 new coal mines. In 2019, the UK imported 6.5 million metric tonnes of coal because we NEED it. Clearly you find it more acceptable to import coal (burning a great deal of fuel in the process) from other countries, rather than getting it out of the ground in this country. It's pathetic flimsy hypocrisy.
China is still a net closer of coal mines, mind. It's also essentially impossible to open a new coal fired power station there, and they're moving towards natural gas like everyone else.
But the big issue is a simpler one: coal mining declined in the UK because it's cheaper to get coal from big open pit mines in Australia, South Africa, the USA or Colombia than from deep mines in the UK.
The spot price for Powder River Basin Coal (which admittedly is not high enough BTU to be used for coking coal) is around $11/tonne.
I doubt there's a single deep mine in the world that can produce coal for less than $100/tonne.
Now you can probably almost make the numbers work for coking coal in small quantities. But if you own a steel mill, and the price of Appalachian coal drops to $60 and you're paying $120 for coal from Cumbria, then you (the steel mill) are out of business.
So, is the right option to force British steel producers to pay uneconomic prices for coal? Or is it to let the market decide? Which, in all probability, will mean we have marginal levels of coal production in the UK.
The UK was a net closer of coal mines from about 1900 onwards.
And I doubt China will need to open any coal fired power stations given the number they've built in recent years:
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
I do not think you understand how tides work.
I do. The output is predictable based on high tide and low tide etc that is perfectly predictable even years into advance.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
Probably innocently meant, but how would it look? "Nice going with your little assemblies, now let the big boys show you how it's done".
Also it's the Welsh Parliament now, not Assembly, I believe
‘Probably innocently meant’
I salute your optimism about human nature.
Has Mogg clarified how they’d fit 650 mps in a chamber designed for 129?
Well they could leave the Scottish MPs outside, that'd mean you only need to squeeze in under 600.
That won’t happen - Holyrood has a modern instant voting system. The old fashioned MPs would probably end up milling around the corridors looking for tellers.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Worth noting that the combined capacity of all the Tesla Gigabatteries - installed and under construction - in the world, is only about a fifth of the capacity of the Dinorwig pumped storage plant in Wales.
Pumped storage plants are a good idea. 👍
The whole point I'm trying to make is we need storage. If the lagoon is to be used as storage then that's great, that works. If its to work predictably with the tides instead, answers the wrong question.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
I do not think you understand how tides work.
I do. The output is predictable based on high tide and low tide etc that is perfectly predictable even years into advance.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
But isn't tidal pretty much consistent and predictable? It always comes in and out, at the same speed.
Novavax trials have completed, and it is 96% effective in original strain CV19 (better than Pfizer, etc). However, Novavax's efficacy drops off rather sharply against South African CV19, dropping to just 55%.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
I do not think you understand how tides work.
I do. The output is predictable based on high tide and low tide etc that is perfectly predictable even years into advance.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
But isn't tidal pretty much consistent and predictable? It always comes in and out, at the same speed.
I believe it cycles but either way that's my point.
Predictability is a strength if working with something like gas, you can get a great synergy between tidal and gas because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can burn more gas.
You get a great synergy between tidal and storage because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can release some storage.
The same with wind+storage or wind+gas, when there is a surge in demand, or a lack of wind we can burn more gas or release some storage.
But what synergy is there between tidal and wind? When the wind pressure is down or there is a surge in demand we can burn more gas, or use more storage, but we can't make the tidal pressures change. Tidal storage works, but not tidal generation.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
I see what you're saying, however, we generate power because we need power, not to make our current power choices look OK. If tidal is more reliable and cheaper than wind, let it supersede wind. There's no point throwing good money after bad.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
I do not think you understand how tides work.
I do. The output is predictable based on high tide and low tide etc that is perfectly predictable even years into advance.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
But isn't tidal pretty much consistent and predictable? It always comes in and out, at the same speed.
I believe it cycles but either way that's my point.
Predictability is a strength if working with something like gas, you can get a great synergy between tidal and gas because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can burn more gas.
You get a great synergy between tidal and storage because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can release some storage.
The same with wind+storage or wind+gas, when there is a surge in demand, or a lack of wind we can burn more gas or release some storage.
But what synergy is there between tidal and wind? When the wind pressure is down we can burn more gas, or use more storage, but we can't make the tidal pressures change. Tidal storage works, but not tidal generation.
I think I see your point, that you can increase/decrease gas as tidal goes in the other direction. Storage would also be an alternative, but not viable at the moment.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
No. I am pretty sure PB Tories are always right, and never have to learn.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
I see what you're saying, however, we generate power because we need power, not to make our current power choices look OK. If tidal is more reliable and cheaper than wind, let it supersede wind. There's no point throwing good money after bad.
Overall I do agree that we need storage.
Its not cheaper though. Wind is cheaper. Wind is much, much cheaper. We just need something that supplements wind on demand because wind isn't reliable or on-demand.
Worth remembering demand isn't reliable either. Its inconsistent throughout the day and with things like a TV Pickup so on-demand will always be needed.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Absolutely.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination. Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
I do not think you understand how tides work.
I do. The output is predictable based on high tide and low tide etc that is perfectly predictable even years into advance.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
But isn't tidal pretty much consistent and predictable? It always comes in and out, at the same speed.
I believe it cycles but either way that's my point.
Predictability is a strength if working with something like gas, you can get a great synergy between tidal and gas because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can burn more gas.
You get a great synergy between tidal and storage because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can release some storage.
The same with wind+storage or wind+gas, when there is a surge in demand, or a lack of wind we can burn more gas or release some storage.
But what synergy is there between tidal and wind? When the wind pressure is down we can burn more gas, or use more storage, but we can't make the tidal pressures change. Tidal storage works, but not tidal generation.
I think I see your point, that you can increase/decrease gas as tidal goes in the other direction. Storage would also be an alternative, but not viable at the moment.
Exactly!
Tidal is an excellent alternative to wind, but more predictable and more expensive.
It is not an excellent supplement to wind.
If wind wasn't much cheaper we 100% should be building tidal. But we need a system that supplements each other, otherwise we haven't solved the reliability problems.
Tidal isn't an answer for storage and once storage is a viable alternative then what answer does tidal serve, since wind is cheaper?
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
Who knows really what went on? But on the basis of evidence which fell far short of convincing, she was trying, for matters of political expediency, to get him convicted as a sex offender. This would have made his life seriously unpleasant for years and seen him reputationally ruined forever. Do you not find this a wee bit frightening?
I'm not 100% on precisely how tidal works but can't the lagoon be engineered so as to produce power broadly when it is needed ?
Storage lagoons do exist and are a great idea, but if its just being used as storage its much less economical.
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
Not an SNP majority, but with the Greens a majority for an Indyref.
Oh absolutely not, there is already an SNP and Green majority at Holyrood, so the failure of the SNP to win a majority despite Brexit as they did before indyref 2014 in 2011 will confirm the UK government to be absolutely right when it refuses a legal indyref2 as it will.
That will also accord with the views of Scots as a whole
I'm not 100% on precisely how tidal works but can't the lagoon be engineered so as to produce power broadly when it is needed ?
Storage lagoons do exist and are a great idea, but if its just being used as storage its much less economical.
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
Wait till you find out how much the long term costs of Hinkley C are.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
Tories don't care about climate change or pollution, unless it is a means to winning elections.
See their entirely contradictory manifesto promises and the climate for examples.
I will make a guess that the majority of Tory voters do not see climate change as extinction, it is at best a nice to have
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Not an SNP majority, but with the Greens a majority for an Indyref.
Oh absolutely not, there is already an SNP and Green majority at Holyrood, so the failure of the SNP to win a majority despite Brexit as they did before indyref 2014 in 2011 will confirm the UK government to be absolutely right when it refuses a legal indyref2 as it will.
That will also accord with the views of Scots as a whole
That there's already a majority for a referendum is not an argument against a referendum.
The only valid current argument against the current MSPs demanding one is they weren't explicit enough to get a mandate for it at the last election, the pledge on having one was vague and conditional.
If the Greens and the SNP both put an unconditional pledge on having one now and get a majority on those pledges then that is fair enough.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
Who knows really what went on? But on the basis of evidence which fell far short of convincing, she was trying, for matters of political expediency, to get him convicted as a sex offender. This would have made his life seriously unpleasant for years and seen him reputationally ruined forever. Do you not find this a wee bit frightening?
Surely most of us have - at one point or another - attempted to fit up a colleague by dint of a malicious prosecution.
I'm not 100% on precisely how tidal works but can't the lagoon be engineered so as to produce power broadly when it is needed ?
Storage lagoons do exist and are a great idea, but if its just being used as storage its much less economical.
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
Wait till you find out how much the long term costs of Hinkley C are.
Hinckley C is an absurd white elephant that should have been cancelled years ago.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
Tories don't care about climate change or pollution, unless it is a means to winning elections.
It seems to work. After all, they've won every election since 1979, even if part of it was under the New Labour brand.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
Tories don't care about climate change or pollution, unless it is a means to winning elections.
It seems to work. After all, they've won every election since 1979, even if part of it was under the New Labour brand.
Correct - just my point is that anyone voting Tory for climate reasons is clearly not as their first reason.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
I'm not 100% on precisely how tidal works but can't the lagoon be engineered so as to produce power broadly when it is needed ?
Storage lagoons do exist and are a great idea, but if its just being used as storage its much less economical.
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
Wait till you find out how much the long term costs of Hinkley C are.
Hinckley C is an absurd white elephant that should have been cancelled years ago.
It's probably worse than that. If it follows the pattern of other nuclear plants, it will have masses of unscheduled downtime, meaning we'll still need to build backup natural gas to deal with times when it's offline.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
So we forgive the lies and the cover up and "lost" / missing records?
The lack of separation of State and the government of the time is ok?
Salmond might or might not be a toe rag but the actions of the SNP in this and other matters stinks.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
Who knows really what went on? But on the basis of evidence which fell far short of convincing, she was trying, for matters of political expediency, to get him convicted as a sex offender. This would have made his life seriously unpleasant for years and seen him reputationally ruined forever. Do you not find this a wee bit frightening?
You don’t ‘know’ what really went on with Salmond and women employed by him as FM but you ‘know’ that Sturgeon tried to get him convicted as a sex offender for reasons of political expediency?
Piers Morgan is a creep who was dumped for being a creep and is now pissed off and has a bee in his bonnet because he was dumped
Really creepy.
And apparently they only met the once in a bar? And she left the bar he was in that night and went to another party without him and he's had this "ghosted" vendetta against someone who met him once then moved on without him?
Not an SNP majority, but with the Greens a majority for an Indyref.
Oh absolutely not, there is already an SNP and Green majority at Holyrood, so the failure of the SNP to win a majority despite Brexit as they did before indyref 2014 in 2011 will confirm the UK government to be absolutely right when it refuses a legal indyref2 as it will.
That will also accord with the views of Scots as a whole
That there's already a majority for a referendum is not an argument against a referendum.
The only valid current argument against the current MSPs demanding one is they weren't explicit enough to get a mandate for it at the last election, the pledge on having one was vague and conditional.
If the Greens and the SNP both put an unconditional pledge on having one now and get a majority on those pledges then that is fair enough.
No it is not, the only reason Westminster even considered allowing indyref1 in 2014 was the outright SNP majority in 2011.
If the SNP cannot even match that despite Brexit then clearly there is no such mandate and the UK government will correctly refuse to allow an indyref2 to take place.
That also accords with the views of most Scots whatever SNP appeasers such as you may want
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
Trump wasn't President when we voted for Brexit. Obama was, he did intervene, and I was strongly critical. That's not what you were asking though.
The government doesn't step in in such things unless it wants to take a decision contrary to the existing one, or to cause a big delay for some other reason. Either way, it's a signal of the government cocking about, no matter what they say about not making a decision for or against.
They need to introduce the manufacture of wind turbines into the same area
Double win
No, they need to start the West Cumbria Tidal Lagoon.
I think that ship has sailed.
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
A series of tidal lagoons and because of the different high tides around the coast, you always have power. They each generate power for 14 hours a day. Irrespective of the wind.
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
But we don't need something "irrespective" of the wind, because we have invested a fortune and are continuing to do so. Unless we're going to scrap the wind turbines, but we're not. We need something that generates with respect to wind - complementing wind by powering up more when wind goes down, then going down when wind goes up.
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
Isn't the point of Tesla GigaBattery technology which they are currently building in Texas but will no doubt be coming (or something similar) in due course.
Amongst other things, yes. Though the real game changer for utility scale electrical storage will quite possibly be ultra low cost flow batteries.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
Who knows really what went on? But on the basis of evidence which fell far short of convincing, she was trying, for matters of political expediency, to get him convicted as a sex offender. This would have made his life seriously unpleasant for years and seen him reputationally ruined forever. Do you not find this a wee bit frightening?
Was it political expediency? He was a political has-been selling his soul to Russia Today.
I think she believed the women, for reasons we can only speculate.
Rape prosecutions have a notoriously low conviction rate, and victims often aren't willing to testify because of the way they are pilloried. If there is evidence of collusion or even perjury, that needs to be prosecuted.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
Trump wasn't President when we voted for Brexit. Obama was, he did intervene, and I was strongly critical. That's not what you were asking though.
Trump during the Brexit process told us what we should do, i.e. sue the EU amongst other things.
So yes, as I suspected it's only when the US does something you disagree with that you call outrage. I'm not surprised in the least.
I praise Kerry for having the balls to stand up to our utterly morally bankrupt Government, who don't give a toss about climate change. Not really.
Tories virtue signal on climate change, end of story
Piers Morgan is a creep who was dumped for being a creep and is now pissed off and has a bee in his bonnet because he was dumped
Really creepy.
And apparently they only met the once in a bar? And she left the bar he was in that night and went to another party without him and he's had this "ghosted" vendetta against someone who met him once then moved on without him?
Creepy. Creepy. Creepy.
Creepily contrived. OR contrivedly creepy. Take your pick.
I'm not 100% on precisely how tidal works but can't the lagoon be engineered so as to produce power broadly when it is needed ?
Storage lagoons do exist and are a great idea, but if its just being used as storage its much less economical.
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
Wait till you find out how much the long term costs of Hinkley C are.
Hinckley C is an absurd white elephant that should have been cancelled years ago.
It's probably worse than that. If it follows the pattern of other nuclear plants, it will have masses of unscheduled downtime, meaning we'll still need to build backup natural gas to deal with times when it's offline.
Or we'll use the Storage we've build up as a solution to work with our massively cheaper wind power instead.
Hinckley C is even more than tidal the wrong answer, to the wrong question.
Though I do wonder if the wind has changed on that. The discussions of misogyny and harassment of women taking place don't look favourable to Salmond. His behaviour was judged non criminal, but was certainly sleazy.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
So we forgive the lies and the cover up and "lost" / missing records?
The lack of separation of State and the government of the time is ok?
Salmond might or might not be a toe rag but the actions of the SNP in this and other matters stinks.
As I said "if not her methods".
I do not approve of collusion or cover up, if those are shown to have happened.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
But to answer your question properly CHB, if the British Government had made a decision I disagreed with on a domestic matter, and a powerful foreign politician intervened in the matter and got the decision reversed, I would be against it. It would be hard to feel as angry about it of course, but in principle I would see it as unacceptable interference.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
Trump wasn't President when we voted for Brexit. Obama was, he did intervene, and I was strongly critical. That's not what you were asking though.
Trump during the Brexit process told us what we should do, i.e. sue the EU amongst other things.
So yes, as I suspected it's only when the US does something you disagree with that you call outrage. I'm not surprised in the least.
I praise Kerry for having the balls to stand up to our utterly morally bankrupt Government, who don't give a toss about climate change. Not really.
Tories virtue signal on climate change, end of story
Funny, for a government that doesn't care about climate change they've sure done a whole lot about it. Look at the sustained drop in emissions for one.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
Just one more thing on this and then I'll shut up. How dare John Kerry come here and lecture us about not opening a coal mine? America's CO2 emissions are 16 metric tonnes per person, ours are 5.3. Should he not have come to us asking for lessons on how to perform this environmental miracle, rather than intervening in matters that don't concern him? What an utter, utter prick.
Just wondering if you opposed Trump getting involved in UK affairs, or is it only when they do something you disagree with
If you can point me to an incidence of him intervening, I'll happily opine.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
Trump wasn't President when we voted for Brexit. Obama was, he did intervene, and I was strongly critical. That's not what you were asking though.
Trump during the Brexit process told us what we should do, i.e. sue the EU amongst other things.
So yes, as I suspected it's only when the US does something you disagree with that you call outrage. I'm not surprised in the least.
I praise Kerry for having the balls to stand up to our utterly morally bankrupt Government, who don't give a toss about climate change. Not really.
Tories virtue signal on climate change, end of story
It is gross hypocrisy from Kerry and Biden.
40% of UK energy is now provided by renewables but only 11% of US energy comes from renewables.
Will Kerry and Biden be shutting coalmines in Pennsylvania? Certainly not
I see the Scottish government's daily briefing will go ahead during the election period, led by Sturgeon. I think the SNP would be (rightfully, for once) jumping up and down about this had it been Johnson leading daily briefings in the run up to a UK election.
Actually, maybe they'd be silent given Johnson's numbers up there.
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Double win
Yet it will have more impact on our lives than anything else they have feature in the previous 26 minutes.
And further innovative manufacturing in the green economy for Cumbria and elsewhere would be ideal
Also it's the Welsh Parliament now, not Assembly, I believe
The future is wind + other but wind + tidal just don't work together.
When the wind pressure is wrong and the tide is wrong what do you do to make electricity?
So much for Brexit being a 'material change in circumstances'
They can recharge the nation's fleet of electric vehicles overnight.
I will wear this badge with pride.
It doesn't matter that they're uncorrelated. Uncorrelated inconsistent things can be at a minimum both at the same time. The tide is predictable which is great if the alternative power supply can be used on-demand, but is not much use when its not. Its entirely possible for wind pressure and tidal pressure to be wrong in which case what do you?
Wind + on demand works.
Tide + on demand works
Wind + tide . . . how does that work?
We need something on demand. Currently that's gas, in the future we need a clean alternative to gas.
I salute your optimism about human nature.
Has Mogg clarified how they’d fit 650 mps in a chamber designed for 129?
So either the wind doesn't work but the tide does and we have enough, in which case what are we doing with the wind? Or the wind and tide both work and we have far too much in which case what are we doing?
We need something to supplement the wind on-demand.
But the big issue is a simpler one: coal mining declined in the UK because it's cheaper to get coal from big open pit mines in Australia, South Africa, the USA or Colombia than from deep mines in the UK.
The spot price for Powder River Basin Coal (which admittedly is not high enough BTU to be used for coking coal) is around $11/tonne.
I doubt there's a single deep mine in the world that can produce coal for less than $100/tonne.
Now you can probably almost make the numbers work for coking coal in small quantities. But if you own a steel mill, and the price of Appalachian coal drops to $60 and you're paying $120 for coal from Cumbria, then you (the steel mill) are out of business.
So, is the right option to force British steel producers to pay uneconomic prices for coal? Or is it to let the market decide? Which, in all probability, will mean we have marginal levels of coal production in the UK.
Power generation cycles predictably with the tides. Predictability is great if your alternative power sources like gas are able to work on demand. Not so much when you want to use it to replace on demand like gas.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeh384Ky/
(You don't need an account or anything to watch the video, I don't have one my wife sent me the link)
One of these activist companies I looked into recently had over half its annual income from the DFID - some hundreds of thousands. I deeply dis-appreciate my money being spent on employing these little herberts, so they can agitate to stop actual *productive* economic activity.
Wind (inconsistent, unpredictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Tidal (inconsistent, predictable) + Storage work as a combination.
Wind + Tidal simply don't work as a combo. Tidal is an alternative to Wind, not a complement to it.
And I doubt China will need to open any coal fired power stations given the number they've built in recent years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations
Notice that there are 40 Chinese coal fired power station between 3,000MW and 6,720 MW in size.
The old UK coal power stations were only 2,000MW.
Low pressure systems affecting the wind don't cycle neatly with the tide. So when low pressure means our wind turbines aren't generating as much we currently burn gas to make up the difference. How do we on demand increase tidal generation during a low pressure system?
The whole point I'm trying to make is we need storage. If the lagoon is to be used as storage then that's great, that works. If its to work predictably with the tides instead, answers the wrong question.
I reckon Sturgeon's instincts, if not her methods, are in tune with the times.
https://twitter.com/BallotBoxScot/status/1370002135362985987?s=20
Predictability is a strength if working with something like gas, you can get a great synergy between tidal and gas because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can burn more gas.
You get a great synergy between tidal and storage because when you have a surge in demand or lower tidal output you can release some storage.
The same with wind+storage or wind+gas, when there is a surge in demand, or a lack of wind we can burn more gas or release some storage.
But what synergy is there between tidal and wind? When the wind pressure is down or there is a surge in demand we can burn more gas, or use more storage, but we can't make the tidal pressures change. Tidal storage works, but not tidal generation.
Overall I do agree that we need storage.
I voted Green at the 2005GE, and was posting here before then, and since then I've often been in arguments with the PB Tories on Green issues.
I supported wind turbines back then and the PB Tories said they couldn't work. Now we generate loads of electricity from wind turbines - and the PB Tories say it proves that technology will stop climate change and the Greens were wrong.
I was at the climate camp protests against coal power stations in 2008 and the PB Tories said wind wouldn't work and we needed to burn coal. Since then coal use for electricity has plummeted to be replaced by wind. But according to the PB Tories this proves that the Greens were wrong.
I predict that in the future we will be able to stop using coking coal to make steel. Maybe it will be the hydrogen method being trialled in Sweden. Maybe another technology. I'm certain that when it happens the PB Tories who opposed any measure to help it happen sooner will claim they supported it all along.
The PB Tories are always wrong and the PB Tories never learn.
Worth remembering demand isn't reliable either. Its inconsistent throughout the day and with things like a TV Pickup so on-demand will always be needed.
Piers Morgan is a creep who was dumped for being a creep and is now pissed off and has a bee in his bonnet because he was dumped
Tidal is an excellent alternative to wind, but more predictable and more expensive.
It is not an excellent supplement to wind.
If wind wasn't much cheaper we 100% should be building tidal. But we need a system that supplements each other, otherwise we haven't solved the reliability problems.
Tidal isn't an answer for storage and once storage is a viable alternative then what answer does tidal serve, since wind is cheaper?
But on the basis of evidence which fell far short of convincing, she was trying, for matters of political expediency, to get him convicted as a sex offender. This would have made his life seriously unpleasant for years and seen him reputationally ruined forever.
Do you not find this a wee bit frightening?
If a way can be found to have economical storage lagoons that would produce power on demand instead of predictably then that would be absolutely perfect.
That will also accord with the views of Scots as a whole
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1369925156383117312?s=20
AND what do the English call it (the tape, that is, not the whisky). Or the Welsh, Irish, Cornish, Manx, Jerseys, Guernseys, etc., etc.?
BTW, what's the deal with butter scotch?
See their entirely contradictory manifesto promises and the climate for examples.
I will make a guess that the majority of Tory voters do not see climate change as extinction, it is at best a nice to have
Of course, some Greens will say that attaching millions of rockets to the moon to manipulate gravity on earth is "stupid". But don't listen to them.
The only valid current argument against the current MSPs demanding one is they weren't explicit enough to get a mandate for it at the last election, the pledge on having one was vague and conditional.
If the Greens and the SNP both put an unconditional pledge on having one now and get a majority on those pledges then that is fair enough.
See Johnson's about-turn on green issues
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
The lack of separation of State and the government of the time is ok?
Salmond might or might not be a toe rag but the actions of the SNP in this and other matters stinks.
Ok.
And apparently they only met the once in a bar? And she left the bar he was in that night and went to another party without him and he's had this "ghosted" vendetta against someone who met him once then moved on without him?
Creepy. Creepy. Creepy.
If the SNP cannot even match that despite Brexit then clearly there is no such mandate and the UK government will correctly refuse to allow an indyref2 to take place.
That also accords with the views of most Scots whatever SNP appeasers such as you may want
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1369925156383117312?s=20
Though the real game changer for utility scale electrical storage will quite possibly be ultra low cost flow batteries.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/pfizer-covid-vaccine-blocks-94percent-of-asymptomatic-infections-and-97percent-of-symptomatic-cases-in-israeli-study.html
I think she believed the women, for reasons we can only speculate.
Rape prosecutions have a notoriously low conviction rate, and victims often aren't willing to testify because of the way they are pilloried. If there is evidence of collusion or even perjury, that needs to be prosecuted.
So yes, as I suspected it's only when the US does something you disagree with that you call outrage. I'm not surprised in the least.
I praise Kerry for having the balls to stand up to our utterly morally bankrupt Government, who don't give a toss about climate change. Not really.
Tories virtue signal on climate change, end of story
Hinckley C is even more than tidal the wrong answer, to the wrong question.
I do not approve of collusion or cover up, if those are shown to have happened.
Oh, saying that, he did try to intervene to stop windfarms, but as a private citizen, not (afaik) coming here and throwing his Presidential weight around.
Brexit...
But to answer your question properly CHB, if the British Government had made a decision I disagreed with on a domestic matter, and a powerful foreign politician intervened in the matter and got the decision reversed, I would be against it. It would be hard to feel as angry about it of course, but in principle I would see it as unacceptable interference.
40% of UK energy is now provided by renewables but only 11% of US energy comes from renewables.
Will Kerry and Biden be shutting coalmines in Pennsylvania? Certainly not
Actually, maybe they'd be silent given Johnson's numbers up there.