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What should Britain do with any excess vaccines – the Referendum divide – politicalbetting.com
What should Britain do with any excess vaccines – the Referendum divide – politicalbetting.com
New polling from Ipsos finds a significant Brexit divide on what Britain should do about any surplus of vaccine that it night find it has. For those who voted Remain in 2016 are markedly more likely to want to share any excess vaccines with 66% saying the UK should pass on some of its extra doses.
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It has been a legal requirement to take into account the environmental impact of such projects since 2014. Shapps appears to have pressed ahead despite the advice of civil servants in his own department.
The details are set out in court papers that form part of a legal challenge to the policy, which was described by the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, last March as the country’s “largest ever” roadbuilding programme.
Lawyers for the campaign group Transport Action Network (TAN) have sought a judicial review of the strategy to develop road projects nationwide, including the Stonehenge tunnel, the A46 Newark bypass and the Lower Thames Crossing.
According to high court filings seen by the Guardian, evidence that Shapps had decided to override Whitehall advice to review the 2014 national policy statement on national networks (NPS) was disclosed at the 11th hour to the claimants.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/11/27bn-roads-plan-doubt-shapps-overrode-official-advice
Big surprise the Oxford number is so low. At that rate would take 3 years to get our 100m doses from them, so hopefully means there is a big jump in capacity coming (presumably soon given the suggestion they'd deliver in full in H1)
But when it comes to if we have a surplus, will there not possibly be a point where our supplies and delivery will be at such a level above our capacity to vaccinate, that we could, in essence, provide some amount to other nations without slowing our domestic vaccination programme?
This is why the EU has reacted with such weird, neurotic insecurity to its relatively poor vaccine performance: because it also says Maybe the Project isn't so great after all. They can't have anyone thinking that, so instead it was: fuck Ireland, draw a border, stop UK vaccine imports, let's make it harder for them
This is also why the EU is being SO obstructive on everything, I can well believe the Tories have made ample mistakes, but it is obvious the EU is being deliberately arsey, wherever and whenever it can. They want Brexit Britain to be a disaster, because they are so insecure over in Brussels.
This presents quite an ongoing problem for the UK. No other democratic entity actively wants the failure of another, as far as I know, especially when it involves two such close and important neighbours as the UK and the EU
What can we do? Either we grovel and hope they grow up, or we become as hostile in return - or worse. Try and undermine them. Or we unite with America and invade them.
And I sympathise on the moodiness. I've had very dark days myself, as I described on here some time ago
Nine more months of not even being able to go to the next county, let alone the next country, I agree is horrible to contemplate.
Eventually, real politik will win through - which means pragmatic win-win cooperation based on mutual respect and not pwnage.
The EU’s animus towards the U.K. is probably more of a temporary phenomenon caused by embarrassment and fear. It will be easier for them to “be reasonable” because the U.K. is just less important to them.
Edit - speaking of which, I note the HS2 extension to Crewe received Royal Assent today.
https://twitter.com/Blahranger/status/1359586956141875203?s=20
It is perfectly possible that older responders are more likely to have a self centred view (sadly) and that older responders are more likely to be Brexiteers (I rather think that is true).
Which would mean that the figures could turn out as they do even though there is no significant difference between the opinions of the groups, they are just differently weighted for age. Call for Tim Harford.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/02/11/does-richard-burgon-know-what-a-woman-is/
Which under other circumstances would be an amusing irony, but doesn’t suggest they will be grown up about a future relationship. If they consider us a convenient scapegoat in the medium term, that will poison things further.
Yet that is, I believe, the attitude now of many senior EU officials and politicians towards the UK. For the sake of The Project, the UK must fail, and if that means Britons suffering, tough shit
Fuck 'em, then
Of course when it was predicted, Brexiters pooh-poohed and said they loved Europe, hated the EU etc. Possibly true, but butters no parsnips in a trade dispute.
I now believe this hostility will actually be permanent, due to the U.K. being a big sooky-baba.
Dealing with urinary tract issues for the Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Foundation Trust, consultant urologist... Nicholas Burns-Cox!
Yes, I know you’re riddled with guilt for voting the country up the river but it’s not too late for enlightenment.
From case data
From hospitalisation data
The first would be bad, and an act of aggression, but the second would be "You wanted to be treated as a separate entity? Welcome to Big School." Not nice, but inevitable. Realpolitik isn't nice.
Basically, anyone who thought that "old boy dining rights" were a thing was a naive fool. And we should note that hardly anyone in Europe is either arguing for kinder treatment of the UK, or to follow our example.
It is just common sense
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1359931946546188294?s=19
Makes the EC claims about all that redirected supply even more ridiculous.
In any case, the UK government is letting the EU somewhat off the hook by making the effects of Brexit worse than they need to be
Prime Minister Imran Khan, while completely ruling out any prospects for resumption of dialogue with the fascist Modi-led government, said India was trying to bankrupt Pakistan and push it into the blacklist of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF).
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/526487-india-hell-bent-on-bankrupting-pakistan-imran
The EU will not help us in the endeavour.
And we will stay very angry with them, and lo, they shall remain the favourite whipping boy of the right wing press.
And that PB knows rather more than I do about the media industry.
But you could be right.
It depends on how well or otherwise we do economically.
Peter Bone doesn't get much publicity here: but in the EU they see a member of Parliament of the ruling party calling for the EU to collapse. That is a story, and it gets peoples' backs up just as much there as "punishment beatings" lines from German MEPs get backs up here.
And then there are things like the EU having an Embassy and an Ambassador. The EU says "hang on, pretty much everywhere else allows us representation, and the UK says f*ck off".
It reminds me a little of a friend of a friend, who changed their name to something utterly absurd. Lots of my friends, said "fuck that, that's really stupid. I'm not changing what I call them". And I said "it doesn't cost me anything, and it's important to them, so I'll call them what they want to be called."
So, yeah, the EU is behaving badly. But this is a co-created relationship.
For me, the issue of Brexit was more to do with us than them. Our politicians weren't prepared to alter our way of life (i.e. welfare state) to adapt to the FoM in the EU.
I would like to see the EU become a federal state with the politicians running the EU accountable to the people. But I don't think the domestic politicians will ever allow it.
(Simplest explanation of the events is that the EU simply didn't anticipate the details of the Hancock Contact, so didn't ask the right question. And AZ understandably didn't tell.)
Politicians doing stupid things happens elsewhere, you know. The USA had Trump, for God's sake. And we've had some humdingers of idiocy from the present government.
I wasn't sure why we refused to recognise their embassy - the only sensible reason I could think was that we wished to keep it back in to get some small benefit in return when we do give it.
Had it been a case of Israel and the USA being ahead of the EU then they wouldn't have batted an eyelid at that.
The reason they were so furious isn't just that they screwed up - but to add insult to injury the UK didn't. That's what makes it so painful for them.
But her decisions over vaccines and Britain are - disturbing. They suggest a deep seated anger still that Britain has dared to leave the perfection of the EU.
I was trying to find a Guardian article from 2016 that included many of their shocked and chastened reactions, but unfortunately I can’t. However, they genuinely seemed horrified that everybody didn’t love them. Remember, most people involved in the EU are fully paid up to the idea of total federation of the whole of Europe. To find that vision wasn’t shared by 52% of voters in the EU’s second most important member was totally shattering for them - and it seems, still is.
Hancock wanted it quickly and asked questions about how to get it quickly.
Kyriakides wanted it cheaply and asked questions about how to get it quickly.
If different clients come to you with different briefs, don't be surprised that they are given different answers.
https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/1359916749429362688?s=20
However, I think their attitude to us is more aggressively negative than ours to them, because it has to be. They have the incentive: to keep the EU together by proving Brexit is a disaster. What incentive do we have to be nasty and menacing to them, other than residual, and idiotic EU-hatred by a few Peter Bones? We're out, we've left, most eurosceptics are relieved, and now just want to get on and trade happily with our new neighbours.
Their motives are different. I predict the EU will remain combatively unpleasant to the UK, obstructionist, awkward, surly, unedifying.
The trouble is this WILL quickly provoke the same, in reverse, from the UK, and the whole relationship will go into the freezer for a decade. I bet the EU will be demanding Brits on holiday in Spain carry special £300 visas by about 2025. They will self harm, as long as it harms us more.
Maybe war is the answer. Or the Anglosphere Alliance of Awesomness with Nukes.
Reinforced by the events after the demolition of the Babri mosque.
You seem to have become incredibly reasonable this year and willing to call the EU out for the flaws they clearly have.