Drive past a road closed sign into an overflowing ford thinking they could cross it.
22 people deployed to rescue these idiots. For pity's sake.
At least the lockdown has led to a (slight) reduction in the number of people getting stuck on the causeway at Holy Island (Lindisfarne) because they can't read a sign that tells them when to cross.
Do you know why the car park was blocked off? Often stopped there on the way down the A1.
I've witnessed a few idiots even in the short time I've been sat there.
No idea, sorry.
One of my mates used to be on the lifeboat crew, and they were constantly having to rescue folk, I was all for instigating an escalating series of fines based on exactly how reckless the people had been.
Drive past a road closed sign into an overflowing ford thinking they could cross it.
22 people deployed to rescue these idiots. For pity's sake.
At least the lockdown has led to a (slight) reduction in the number of people getting stuck on the causeway at Holy Island (Lindisfarne) because they can't read a sign that tells them when to cross.
Do you know why the car park was blocked off? Often stopped there on the way down the A1.
I've witnessed a few idiots even in the short time I've been sat there.
No idea, sorry.
One of my mates used to be on the lifeboat crew, and they were constantly having to rescue folk, I was all for instigating an escalating series of fines based on exactly how reckless the people had been.
The French are very good at that sort of thing. I have seen several times lifeguards on the beach fining swimmers who have been dragged out of dangerous seas. They barely wait for the miscreants to get the water out of their lungs.
Gabriel Scally, a visiting professor of public health at the University of Bristol and a member of the Independent Sage group of experts, said the 100,000-plus death toll was an indictment of the way the pandemic had been handled.
“It is an astounding number of preventable deaths from one cause in one year, [an] absolutely astounding number. It’s a sign of a phenomenal failure of policy and practice in the face of this new and dangerous virus,” Scally said.
Christina Pagel, a professor of operational research at University College London and also a member of Independent Sage, said that with deaths lagging infections by three to four weeks, the death toll would rise further. “I could say it’s shocking that [the] UK has [the] worst death toll in Europe, or we could have prevented this with earlier measures in September or October, and it would be true,” she said.
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
Yes. Also science answers only how (including why in the sense of causation). Not what or why (in the sense of telos).
PS While I agree that those other questions cannot be answered universally (i.e. one answer good for everyone), some can be answered to the satisfaction of the enquirer. I, for instance, am happy that I have adequate answers on all matters metaphysical - adequate for me, anyways.
Yes I meant why as in causation. Which for me means science can in theory explain everything that has ever happened or will happen. But the smart money is on that state of affairs never being reached. Thank the Lord.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Neither Peterhead nor Fraserburgh are in Moray, Shetland is the 3rd largest port and LD held. Bannffshire and Buchan coast has an SNP MSP anyway already. Fishing votes are not big enough a percentage of the huge list regions to make much difference.
Now No Deal Brexit has been avoided I expect No voters elsewhere in the suburbs and market towns will now switch behind the SCons as the SNP continually push indyref2 and as the SNP civil war deepens
After a series of Rep speeches from which you’d deduce that Trump has done nothing wrong, the Rep minority leader is now citing Jefferson and calling for forgiveness and unity.
Forgiveness requires acknowledgement of wrongdoing, at the very least.
No it doesn't. Forgiveness doesn't have anything to do with the recipient.
Well you're a better person than I am. In politics, I don't see why forgiveness should be granted to those who do not recognise their responsibility in negative events.
If someone thinks Trump acted in a manner worthy of impeachment, why should they forgive him? Bear in mind it isn't even actually forgiveness people are being asked to provide, but simply not ensuring consequences for Trump's actions.
So ok, forgiveness doesn't require acknowledgement of wrongdoing. But if someone wants to escape consequences for their actions, then acknowledgement at the least seems reasonable.
I'm definitely not a better person than you are, I'm just reiterating what forgiveness is. The whole point of it is that it doesn't need the other person to be jolly sorry.
It's also not for that person, it's for the forgiver - it is the forgiver who benefits. So the reason they would forgive Trump is the same reason they'd forgive their mother for preferring their sibling or the bank for refusing a mortgage - to let it go. To stop it being part of their experience any more.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Drive past a road closed sign into an overflowing ford thinking they could cross it.
22 people deployed to rescue these idiots. For pity's sake.
At least the lockdown has led to a (slight) reduction in the number of people getting stuck on the causeway at Holy Island (Lindisfarne) because they can't read a sign that tells them when to cross.
Do you know why the car park was blocked off? Often stopped there on the way down the A1.
I've witnessed a few idiots even in the short time I've been sat there.
No idea, sorry.
One of my mates used to be on the lifeboat crew, and they were constantly having to rescue folk, I was all for instigating an escalating series of fines based on exactly how reckless the people had been.
Drive past a road closed sign into an overflowing ford thinking they could cross it.
22 people deployed to rescue these idiots. For pity's sake.
At least the lockdown has led to a (slight) reduction in the number of people getting stuck on the causeway at Holy Island (Lindisfarne) because they can't read a sign that tells them when to cross.
Do you know why the car park was blocked off? Often stopped there on the way down the A1.
I've witnessed a few idiots even in the short time I've been sat there.
No idea, sorry.
One of my mates used to be on the lifeboat crew, and they were constantly having to rescue folk, I was all for instigating an escalating series of fines based on exactly how reckless the people had been.
The French are very good at that sort of thing. I have seen several times lifeguards on the beach fining swimmers who have been dragged out of dangerous seas. They barely wait for the miscreants to get the water out of their lungs.
When I lived in NZ the ambulances used to send bills to people they thought were abusing the system. I think few paid, but it did make the point.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
Yes but not early. Post Biden's inauguration.
A post-inauguration impeachment trial could be smart politics by McConnell. Allows him to serve his revenge on Trump cold, allows him to eat up some of the Democrats legislative time, allows him to excise the Trump cancer from the GOP.
That's a nice brief summary of the reasons for 'going long'.
There are of course reasons for going quick too, but I can see why long makes sense.
If you are an very independent, highly intelligent, rich person why would you go into politics when to be successful you either have to to back the party leadership at all times or the views of the party membership at all times, that was the point
I always think that commentators often underestimate the idea of being satisfied to be part of a movement that one agrees with. Paxman's book "The Politicians" expresses the same view - what's in it for the successful?
When I was elected in 1997 I was earning over £100K in an interesting career as a senior manager for a nice company in a pleasant environment, but it didn't seem to me that I was actually doing anything that would help make society better. By capturing a marginal seat and making centre-left government that much easier, I felt I was doing something more useful. Being personally successful - a Cabinet Minister or something - would have been nice, but not a necessary feature. I've never had the slightest regret about the change.
Obviously one can disagree about what a better society might be, but I think people overestimate the extent to which being in politics is only about your own career - and that's true of many on both right and left. It'd be fairer to say that the wish to be re-elected, the wish to be influential and the wish to support the movement get tangled up so the original good intention gets blurred - but it doesn't, usually, disappear. Otherwise, how does one explain people who knock themselves out for a cause, perhaps acting as unpaid town councillors, without earning anything at all (not even much respect - friends tend to think they're weird)?
Interesting but then again you have to be pretty ideological to be so committed to the cause and get such fulfilment of it
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
After a series of Rep speeches from which you’d deduce that Trump has done nothing wrong, the Rep minority leader is now citing Jefferson and calling for forgiveness and unity.
Forgiveness requires acknowledgement of wrongdoing, at the very least.
No it doesn't. Forgiveness doesn't have anything to do with the recipient.
Well you're a better person than I am. In politics, I don't see why forgiveness should be granted to those who do not recognise their responsibility in negative events.
If someone thinks Trump acted in a manner worthy of impeachment, why should they forgive him? Bear in mind it isn't even actually forgiveness people are being asked to provide, but simply not ensuring consequences for Trump's actions.
So ok, forgiveness doesn't require acknowledgement of wrongdoing. But if someone wants to escape consequences for their actions, then acknowledgement at the least seems reasonable.
I'm definitely not a better person than you are, I'm just reiterating what forgiveness is. The whole point of it is that it doesn't need the other person to be jolly sorry.
It's also not for that person, it's for the forgiver - it is the forgiver who benefits. So the reason they would forgive Trump is the same reason they'd forgive their mother for preferring their sibling or the bank for refusing a mortgage - to let it go. To stop it being part of their experience any more.
But they are also representatives who have constitutional power to hold the president to account. Avoiding that, if they believe he has committed offences worthy of impeachment, may well be a derogation of their duty. It's not just about making themselves feel good by forgiving him.
That's why they are not really being asked to forgive, they are being asked to prevent him facing consequences.
And people will have different views on what forgiveness is and requires, the same with redemption and other concepts. No doubt philosophers debate such things, and most would agree with you, but the raising of forgiveness is in any case a red herring by his defenders in Congress.
It isn't some personal forgiveness being sought, but the avoidance of formal processes - and that raises other issues where his Trump's personal response is important. It's not a morality play.
After a series of Rep speeches from which you’d deduce that Trump has done nothing wrong, the Rep minority leader is now citing Jefferson and calling for forgiveness and unity.
Forgiveness requires acknowledgement of wrongdoing, at the very least.
No it doesn't. Forgiveness doesn't have anything to do with the recipient.
It does. Pardons, for example, as the US Supreme Court has ruled, carry an imputation of guillt, and acceptance of them a confession of it.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
It is different in Scotland, the Tories, the LDs, Labour, Alliance for Unity, Reform UK etc all come under the anti SNP and Unionist umbrella.
In England the SNP are irrelevant and the main battle is Tory v Labour or Tory v LD or even maybe in a few areas Tory v Reform UK
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
Yes. Also science answers only how (including why in the sense of causation). Not what or why (in the sense of telos).
PS While I agree that those other questions cannot be answered universally (i.e. one answer good for everyone), some can be answered to the satisfaction of the enquirer. I, for instance, am happy that I have adequate answers on all matters metaphysical - adequate for me, anyways.
Yes I meant why as in causation. Which for me means science can in theory explain everything that has ever happened or will happen. But the smart money is on that state of affairs never being reached. Thank the Lord.
Except it cannot. Complex adaptive systems are neither deterministic nor calculable. And they give rise to emergent properties that cannot be imagined, let alone predicted, until they are experienced. CAS are to predictive sciences what Godel is to mathematics.
Drive past a road closed sign into an overflowing ford thinking they could cross it.
22 people deployed to rescue these idiots. For pity's sake.
At least the lockdown has led to a (slight) reduction in the number of people getting stuck on the causeway at Holy Island (Lindisfarne) because they can't read a sign that tells them when to cross.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
It is different in Scotland, the Tories, the LDs, Labour, Alliance for Unity, Reform UK etc all come under the anti SNP and Unionist umbrella
If you are a good Unionist you wouldn't be doing a Tory Ian Murray to your own party's votes and parliamentary representations.
Just think about it for a moment - you are doing down your own party.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
That'd be fun for Betfair. His term would definitely have ended. But would it be an early end if he did it on the 20th ?
This is just run of the mill GOP voter suppression, harks back to a more innocent time.
It's also meaningless if a method was potentially open to abuse if it could not be proven that there was any such abuse that would affect the outcome, in case after case after case. Nor would identifying a system as in need of improvement (in his eyes at least) justify changing the rules mid election or throwing out the results after one which had a result you do not like even though it was conducted under the rules agreed for it.
So the attempted implication that the election was therefore rigged is very Trump worthy.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
That'd be fun for Betfair. His term would definitely have ended. But would it be an early end if he did it on the 20th ?
Only if he dies before 12pm on the 20th.
If he dies before then there's an automaticity of his Presidency ending and Pence becoming POTUS.
Pence's tenure might rival the Anglo-Zanzibar war for length.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
It is different in Scotland, the Tories, the LDs, Labour, Alliance for Unity, Reform UK etc all come under the anti SNP and Unionist umbrella
If you are a good Unionist you wouldn't be doing a Tory Ian Murray to your own party's votes and parliamentary representations.
Just think about it for a moment - you are doing down your own party.
That is a sacking offence.
No, in Scotland the main objective is to beat the SNP.
Though in most realistic Unionist target seats which require a less than 5% swing to gain them the best way to do that is to vote Tory anyway, certainly on the constituency vote.
Is Pelosi responsible for their state of exhaustion?
Have totally missed this. Wtf is going on?
National guard troops who slept overnight in the Capitol. Not the first time this has been done to ensure that "government of the people, by the people and for the people does not perish from the earth".
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
The betting has swung away from an early departure. Yes 14 No 1.07
I had a few quid on that as a punt. Blown out the door now.
Is Pelosi responsible for their state of exhaustion?
Have totally missed this. Wtf is going on?
National guard troops who slept overnight in the Capitol. Not the first time this has been done to ensure that "government of the people, by the people and for the people does not perish from the earth".
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
The betting has swung away from an early departure. Yes 14 No 1.07
I had a few quid on that as a punt. Blown out the door now.
Yep I've steered clear of this one. The best solution I think is a vote to impeach now with the Senate debating it a few weeks down the line after the inauguration. I think it's also more likely to succeed then.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
There’s no good reason to assume that anything McConnell tells anyone is true. But there are plausible reasons for him thinking it’s in his own narrow interest.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
He also likes high TV ratings so maybe he will do it live on air.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Kemp is a run-of-the-mill right-wing Republican. NOT a Trumpskyite, at least not enough of one to overturn a perfectly legitimate election result.
Photo ID is big with Republicans because it both sounds reasonable AND is effective voter suppression method, just like eliminating ballot drop boxes and curtailing postal and early voting.
Governor is a) staying true to his stripes; and b) trying to propitiate the Putinists now howling for his blood.
In other words, true meaning is 180 degrees or thereabouts different from what you imply and believe.
Just discovered that our pre-Lockdown 1 stockpile of baked beans is best before the end of this month. Still 5 tins in the cupboard. Guess what we are having for tea...
I therefore urge everyone to check your tins and eat what needs eating.
In other food news, Wor Lass has sourced some pineapple jam. The perfect addition to a ham sandwich?
Just discovered that our pre-Lockdown 1 stockpile of baked beans is best before the end of this month. Still 5 tins in the cupboard. Guess what we are having for tea...
I therefore urge everyone to check your tins and eat what needs eating.
In other food news, Wor Lass has sourced some pineapple jam. The perfect addition to a ham sandwich?
If it’s best before, I wouldn’t rush. It’s not likely to suddenly go bad when the date kicks over...
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Depressingly high.
This site would explode.
American democracy would probably explode too, but I don't think it's iikely.
The really interesting thing to me today is where have those extra Republican votes gone ? The NYT and CNN yesterday were talking quite confidently of about 20 Senators who would vote to convict. If there's now only about 5 or 6, what has happened and why ?
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
He also likes high TV ratings so maybe he will do it live on air.
You could be onto something here, Barnesian.
Perhaps PBers may have heard of Budd Dwyer, former Republican state legislator and serving State Treasurer in 1987, when he was convicted of conspiracy, mail fraud, perjury and interstate transportation in aid of racketeering.
Facing sentence of up to 55 years in prison, Dwyer called a press conference at the PA state capitol in Harrisburg - and shot himself on live TV.
And of McConnell bringing forward the impeachment trial. It looks like Pence, McConnell and the GOP leadership have told Trump to be quiet and sit still and they'll let him end his term with some small semblance of dignity.
The difference between this and a typical Amazon store is that you don't need an amazon account - it all gets charged to the credit card you swipe as you enter the store.
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Depressingly high.
This site would explode.
American democracy would probably explode too, but I don't think it's iikely.
The really interesting thing to me today is where have those extra Republican votes gone ? The NYT and CNN yesterday were talking quite confidently of about 20 Senators who would vote to convict. If there's now only about 5 or 6, what's happened and why ?
It looks like five or six GOP representatives will join with the Democrats to bring an impeachment. Whether there are really 20 Republican Senators who would vote to convict in the trial right now I am doubtful, but a lot will depend on what comes out between the impeachment being brought and the trial, whenever it may be.
"The new plan would be triggered only when waiting times outside Dover reached eight hours or more and the loads delivered to UK supermarkets had fallen below 75 per cent of expectations for two consecutive days."
After a series of Rep speeches from which you’d deduce that Trump has done nothing wrong, the Rep minority leader is now citing Jefferson and calling for forgiveness and unity.
Forgiveness requires acknowledgement of wrongdoing, at the very least.
No it doesn't. Forgiveness doesn't have anything to do with the recipient.
Well you're a better person than I am. In politics, I don't see why forgiveness should be granted to those who do not recognise their responsibility in negative events.
If someone thinks Trump acted in a manner worthy of impeachment, why should they forgive him? Bear in mind it isn't even actually forgiveness people are being asked to provide, but simply not ensuring consequences for Trump's actions.
So ok, forgiveness doesn't require acknowledgement of wrongdoing. But if someone wants to escape consequences for their actions, then acknowledgement at the least seems reasonable.
I'm definitely not a better person than you are, I'm just reiterating what forgiveness is. The whole point of it is that it doesn't need the other person to be jolly sorry.
It's also not for that person, it's for the forgiver - it is the forgiver who benefits. So the reason they would forgive Trump is the same reason they'd forgive their mother for preferring their sibling or the bank for refusing a mortgage - to let it go. To stop it being part of their experience any more.
But they are also representatives who have constitutional power to hold the president to account. Avoiding that, if they believe he has committed offences worthy of impeachment, may well be a derogation of their duty. It's not just about making themselves feel good by forgiving him.
That's why they are not really being asked to forgive, they are being asked to prevent him facing consequences.
And people will have different views on what forgiveness is and requires, the same with redemption and other concepts. No doubt philosophers debate such things, and most would agree with you, but the raising of forgiveness is in any case a red herring by his defenders in Congress.
It isn't some personal forgiveness being sought, but the avoidance of formal processes - and that raises other issues where his Trump's personal response is important. It's not a morality play.
And as you point out, they are the representatives of seventy odd million voters whose votes an unrepentant President illegally attempted to set aside. It’s not their forgiveness to offer. The fact that Trump put their lives in danger, sure, that’s theirs - but not the attempt to steal an election.
It is classic Republican tactics, though, to appeal to Democrats’ better instincts, as soon as they lose power. Bipartisanship, heal the divisions, let bygones be... etc. Then as soon as it’s regained, let’s own the Libs.
I think there is a small but non negligible chance (1%?) that Trump will upstage the Biden inauguration by taking his own life on the 20th (or attempting to).
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
But he loves himself far too much.
So, no.
Agree, that would require himself to acknowledge he's lost everything, and he will never admit to being a loser. Also, I think he is too much of a physical coward to actually do violence in person, whether to himself or another.
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
It is different in Scotland, the Tories, the LDs, Labour, Alliance for Unity, Reform UK etc all come under the anti SNP and Unionist umbrella.
There is no umbrella. Labour are at least as anti-Tory than anti-SNP. In fact, more so. Their voters contain a significant independence desire. You may as well say Labour, Green, LibDem etc are united under the anti-Tory umbrella. But it's more complex than that.
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
Yes. Also science answers only how (including why in the sense of causation). Not what or why (in the sense of telos).
PS While I agree that those other questions cannot be answered universally (i.e. one answer good for everyone), some can be answered to the satisfaction of the enquirer. I, for instance, am happy that I have adequate answers on all matters metaphysical - adequate for me, anyways.
Yes I meant why as in causation. Which for me means science can in theory explain everything that has ever happened or will happen. But the smart money is on that state of affairs never being reached. Thank the Lord.
If we knew everything there is to know about science, we would know everything, including the nature of God. But the same is true the other way, if we knew everything about God, we would know everything about science. If we knew everything about knitting, or the Romantic poets, or dairy farming, it would be the same. Everything is everything, and truth agrees with itself, otherwise it wouldn't be truth.
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Depressingly high.
This site would explode.
American democracy would probably explode too, but I don't think it's iikely.
The really interesting thing to me today is where have those extra Republican votes gone ? The NYT and CNN yesterday were talking quite confidently of about 20 Senators who would vote to convict. If there's now only about 5 or 6, what's happened and why ?
It looks like five or six GOP representatives will join with the Democrats to bring an impeachment. Whether there are really 20 Republican Senators who would vote to convict in the trial right now I am doubtful, but a lot will depend on what comes out between the impeachment being brought and the trial, whenever it may be.
Sorry , yes ; with all the torrent of news this week, I realise I hadn't been following the procedural stages closely enough. I thought from an earlier skim of today's news that the five or six referred to conviction votes at the next stage, but as a margin for the earlier stage it looks very narrow.
And of McConnell bringing forward the impeachment trial. It looks like Pence, McConnell and the GOP leadership have told Trump to be quiet and sit still and they'll let him end his term with some small semblance of dignity.
"some small semblance of dignity"
That ship has already sailed. Or rather already been scuttled in VERY deep water by Cap'n Trumpsky.
Also: "But another haulage insider reckons the bureaucracy of the scheme doesn't recognise how supply chains really work: “This is just embarrassing, and won’t work. Another knee-jerk scheme, designed for a press release"
After a series of Rep speeches from which you’d deduce that Trump has done nothing wrong, the Rep minority leader is now citing Jefferson and calling for forgiveness and unity.
Forgiveness requires acknowledgement of wrongdoing, at the very least.
No it doesn't. Forgiveness doesn't have anything to do with the recipient.
It does. Pardons, for example, as the US Supreme Court has ruled, carry an imputation of guillt, and acceptance of them a confession of it.
That makes no difference to the nature of forgiveness.
Trump won 2016 but lost the popular vote against one of the most divisive individuals going in Hillary Clinton He lost clearly in 2020
In 2024 he can have all the supporters he likes, all he will do is split the right leaning vote and just will not win. He wasn't likely to win in 2020 and didn't, it is not going to be any better for him in 2024 because he is going to trashed for the next 4 years.
Just discovered that our pre-Lockdown 1 stockpile of baked beans is best before the end of this month. Still 5 tins in the cupboard. Guess what we are having for tea...
I therefore urge everyone to check your tins and eat what needs eating.
In other food news, Wor Lass has sourced some pineapple jam. The perfect addition to a ham sandwich?
If it’s best before, I wouldn’t rush. It’s not likely to suddenly go bad when the date kicks over...
IF in a can, should be just as good in a year or more as they were the day they were canned.
That is, awful (as per usual) but (technically) edible.
BUT at least if you scarf down your lockdown rations, you will NOT be able to "vent" in a crowded theater or such-like . . .
Mr Johnson's going to have to do better than make up moans about the SNP in PMQ and think they are sufficient, esp. when it's folk such as Alistair Carmichael doing the attacking. But hey, they're all Jocks perhaps.
The list of folk that have just not understood how great the Deal is for fishing so far:
Fishermen Fishermens' associations Fish merchants Fish exporters Shellfish exporters The P&J The Evening Express
Chust so, as old Peter Handy used to say. The seagulls will be complaining next, at this rate.
Mphm. Did we include, in the exporters, the processors, incl. Arbroath Smokie and finnan haddie smokers? Or do they emply too many furriners and NOT COUNT?
TUD has certainly been a busy boy, getting around all those thousands of people.
Unless he's just referring to 'a' fisherman 'a' head of a fishermens' association 'a' fish merchant 'a' fish exporter 'a' shelfish exporter etc.
When it's the Scottish trawler bosses and the P and J you better start listening if you are a ScoTory MP/MSP worried about his/her seat.
That is in effect actually only David Duguid, no other Scottish Tory MP or Scottish Tory constituency MSP has a major Scottish fishing port in their constituency
Douglas Ross in Moray?! He's got am important fishing component in his area. And that's just one, before you startt counting the list MSPs - mor eimportant for Tories anyway.
The doctrine of "piss off if you didn't vote for us" is not going to garner enough votes to win next time, either.
Also - it's not just the fisherfolk who will vote against Torydom if they think the Brexit has been betrayed. Pasrtly those dependent on the fishing industry (including wider sectors such as housing and food) and partly their sympathisers in the elderly retirees for instance. I'm very interested to see what happens with the party - whatever it's called - now that Michelle Ballantyne has joined. I'd be very surprised if Eyemouth and its hinterland vote Tory if the currtent situation is not alleviated.
Been a couple of opinion pieces on how Farage’s Reform UK mob can take a chunk out of the SCons. Apparently the lad himself is coming up to campaign before the May election, presumably he’ll be avoiding Remoaner Central Edinburgh this time.
Reform UK will likely not stand for constitiuency seats and on the list they might even pick up a few Unionist MSP seats themselves so no harm there
Of course, you'll be saying that in Epping to your local party - no problem if the local Brexiter Party candidate actually wins.
It is different in Scotland, the Tories, the LDs, Labour, Alliance for Unity, Reform UK etc all come under the anti SNP and Unionist umbrella.
There is no umbrella. Labour are at least as anti-Tory than anti-SNP. In fact, more so. Their voters contain a significant independence desire. You may as well say Labour, Green, LibDem etc are united under the anti-Tory umbrella. But it's more complex than that.
If you vote SLab not SNP you are voting for a leadership that is anti independence and anti indyref2, that is the point
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
Yes. Also science answers only how (including why in the sense of causation). Not what or why (in the sense of telos).
PS While I agree that those other questions cannot be answered universally (i.e. one answer good for everyone), some can be answered to the satisfaction of the enquirer. I, for instance, am happy that I have adequate answers on all matters metaphysical - adequate for me, anyways.
Yes I meant why as in causation. Which for me means science can in theory explain everything that has ever happened or will happen. But the smart money is on that state of affairs never being reached. Thank the Lord.
If we knew everything there is to know about science, we would know everything, including the nature of God. But the same is true the other way, if we knew everything about God, we would know everything about science. If we knew everything about knitting, or the Romantic poets, or dairy farming, it would be the same. Everything is everything, and truth agrees with itself, otherwise it wouldn't be truth.
We comprehend the universe with as much success as a goldfish struggling to understand why it lives in a glass bowl on the 23rd floor of a New York City skyscraper.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Can't see 16 or more Republican Senators voting against Trump, whether proceedings come early or late. I suppose there's always a chance that the longer it is left the greater the chance that something really awful crawls out of the wordwork, but then how much worse than inciting insurrection could it get?
This is literally going to end with KoolAid, isn't it?
Jonestown.
I'm serious - I can see the hard core doing some kind of joint suicide thing. Just hoping that it doesn't involve anything other than themselves.
So am I.
It is a cult. When the Messiah goes it gets very messy.
For some reason I was thinking of the ones who were waiting for the spaceship. When it didn't arrive....
I think the moment will be if Trump doesn't pardon the protestors from last week.
Maybe... or if Moscow Mitch leads his boys & gals to the impeachment door.....
I think that the 20th would be a good day to be in a bunker, honestly.
I think, looking over it, that that "magalawbrian" Twitter is a parody account. I think it is, and I certainly hope it is, but I can't say for sure. If it is for real, then it is off-the-wall insane even by Trumpist/MAGA/QAnon standards.
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Negligible since he has about as much chance of winning in 2024 as Corbyn does.
The rest of it is depressingly plausible though.
The unknown factor is how important a Trump or Trump factor endorsement will be in the 2022 Republican party primaries.
Think word you are looking for isn't "important" but rather "toxic".
Trump is toxic to democrat voters - he isn't too a large percentage of Republican supporters - there will be places where the Trump seal of approval will result in their candidate being the 2022 Republican party candidate and a large number of congressman know that to survive they can't annoy those supporters
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Depressingly high.
This site would explode.
American democracy would probably explode too, but I don't think it's iikely.
The really interesting thing to me today is where have those extra Republican votes gone ? The NYT and CNN yesterday were talking quite confidently of about 20 Senators who would vote to convict. If there's now only about 5 or 6, what's happened and why ?
It looks like five or six GOP representatives will join with the Democrats to bring an impeachment. Whether there are really 20 Republican Senators who would vote to convict in the trial right now I am doubtful, but a lot will depend on what comes out between the impeachment being brought and the trial, whenever it may be.
The unspoken bargain. No more threats to democracy, and we won't vote to impeach. But, any more attacks on any regional capitals - and we pile in.
Wonder IF there may be some historical parallels, between the political future of the Trumpskyites in 21st-century US and the past poliltical trajectory of the Jacobites in 18th-century UK?
AND that Donald Trumpsky's failure to win re-election in 2020, is in some ways akin to Bonnie Prince Charlie's failure to advance beyond Derby in 1745?
Both were close-run things AND major watersheds for not just at the time, but for MANY years to come.
Trump won 2016 but lost the popular vote against one of the most divisive individuals going in Hillary Clinton He lost clearly in 2020
In 2024 he can have all the supporters he likes, all he will do is split the right leaning vote and just will not win. He wasn't likely to win in 2020 and didn't, it is not going to be any better for him in 2024 because he is going to trashed for the next 4 years.
Anyway you cant vote for a jailbird.
You really think he'll do chokey, Yokey?
I'm sure the IRS will go for his throat but they will usually accept financial restitution.
As I once pointed out to the Head of a posh private school in Surrey, 3 AAA's from an inner city Hackney Comp is obviously more valuable than 3 AAA's from her school.
Nothing else needs to be said. What matters to Cambridge is not the qualification on entry but the qualification on exit and the years of learning to achieve that.
Maybe but 3 BBBs from a comprehensive should not be more valuable than 3 AAAs from a private school that is the point.
Of course when we had grammar schools many of the state schools even in Hackney were more than an equal for private schools academically, now with a few exceptions like Mossbourne Academy that is rarely the case for comprehensives
Actually 3 Bs from someone who's have to overcome a hell of a lot of difficult circumstances and self-motivate completely because there was no-one there to push them is a hell of a lot more valuable than 3 As from someone in a private school with pushy parents and private tutors.
No it isn't, it is still lower grades no matter personal circumstance.
However as a socialist your solution as usual is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator and penalise the middle classes having already scrapped most grammars which were the best chance to get to Oxbridge the working class ever had
Yes it is, actually. "Socialism" has nothing to do with it. I'm not even a socialist.
We all know you're a grade snob so this is to be expected, but you're wrong.
Besides, I didn't say a BBB was better than an AAA. In fact of course in most cases the AAA will be valuable. However there may be circumstances where the BBB is in fact more valuable.
You are a leftwing Tory hater.
In most cases BBB would normally be barely enough to scrape into Southampton let alone Oxbridge and it would be ridiculous of Oxbridge to lower its grade total so far to admit more from comprehensives.
There may be a case to favour an AAA comp student over an AAA private school student, there is no case to favour a BBB comp student over an AAA private school student
It is entirely conceivable that the BBB pupil is more intelligent and harder working than the AAA one. In that case it is better for Oxford (dunno what this "Oxbridge" shit is) and by any sane standards more just and more desirable that the BBB pupil gets the place, subject to the very important proviso that the BBB pupil can make up the ground lost by worse schooling, in time to benefit from the Oxford course.
A friend of mine studied some Classics degree at Oxford, maybe the one Boris studied? In any case she was from a state school and found it almost impossible to keep up as most of her peers had studied greek and latin at their private schools, whilst she had not.
She got a 1st anyway.
In that case, your friend will almost certainly have scored very highly in the Classics Language Aptitude Test (CLAT) when she applied, and thus was admitted on merit, not as a charity case. Oxford has been doing this for years, and it's a much better solution than some crude handicapping system.
On the other hand, it's a great pity if she wasn't able to acquire the languages to a comfortable level, since that's one of the main pleasures and joys of the course.
I didn't say she was a "charity case". She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. My point was to highlight yet another advantage those who go to private school have and how she had to work much harder to achieve that 1st than they probably did.
I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Getting a First if you read for Course II (where you start the languages from scratch) is less common, and the people who manage it are indeed impressive. On the other hand, the scope of Course II is narrower relative to Course I, concentrating on one language rather than both, and the first year is largely dedicated to intensive catch-up work, so inevitably the average Course II candidate will simply have read and covered less by the end of the degree.
Still, it helps Classics to survive and be enjoyed by more people, so it's not all bad.
Latin was both my best and favourite subject at school. Touch of the Billy Elliots about it except unlike him I caved in and went STEM instead. Others spoke, authority figures, and I did it their way. Regrets, I have sixty two, and this is one of them.
I knew you were basically sound, kinabalu. Oddly enough, I started off school certain that I was going to become a scientist, and only did my volte-face to languages and humanities a little later, though not from any special pressure.
I think a big mistake many arts graduates make is to assume that science grads are completely illiterate in the arts whereas science grads also know how to get to Covent Garden, or Bayreuth for that matter, read voraciously, and can tell a Monet from a Manet.
A STEM bod is more likely to be good at the Arts than an Arts bod is to be good at STEM. So if you had to cull one group - I mean if you simply had to - and start again from there you'd probably, albeit with the heaviest of hearts, have to say farewell to the Arts crowd.
The danger is that many STEM bods get ahead of themselves and start to pretend they have more than the vaguest acquaintance with the arts and thereby embarrass themselves.
Hence to minimise the toe-curling factor best to dispense with the good STEM folk.
That's a point. Although with the pandemic we have seen several "history men" types with their pants down when making forays into the wonderful world of numbers.
STEM bods (and that is my roots) are also more likely to get trapped in a world of one truth and one perspective.
And while some of their favorite films may talk of 'constructs', many STEM bods fail to understand that their understanding of the world is just one construct. This is not to mean that I am disrespectful of science, just that it is not equipped to provide all answers, including most of those which are of most central importance to the human condition.
I agree. I'm STEM but not very STEMY.
But what I'd say is that although science cannot answer every question, the questions that it cannot answer cannot be answered.
Or - science does not have all the answers but it does have the ONLY answers.
Where answers = definitive ones to questions starting how and why.
What is free will?
That's not a how or why.
It's a question.
And a big one!
I would say free will probably does not exist but it is best to live and think as if it does.
Also: "But another haulage insider reckons the bureaucracy of the scheme doesn't recognise how supply chains really work: “This is just embarrassing, and won’t work. Another knee-jerk scheme, designed for a press release"
No company is going to willingly send an empty container across the channel unless absolutely completely necessary.
You are now paying for 2 expensive journeys for 1 transport load.
What odds on Trump being impeached but not convicted, coming back and winning in 2024 and making it a hat-trick of impeachments in his second term?
Negligible since he has about as much chance of winning in 2024 as Corbyn does.
The rest of it is depressingly plausible though.
The unknown factor is how important a Trump or Trump factor endorsement will be in the 2022 Republican party primaries.
Think word you are looking for isn't "important" but rather "toxic".
Trump is toxic to democrat voters - he isn't too a large percentage of Republican supporters - there will be places where the Trump seal of approval will result in their candidate being the 2022 Republican party candidate and a large number of congressman know that to survive they can't annoy those supporters
Doubt if Mitch McConnell shares your view re: Trumpsky's toxicity.
That's the point about the Trumpsky Putsch - everything is changed, with new dynamic and realities.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Can't see 16 or more Republican Senators voting against Trump, whether proceedings come early or late. I suppose there's always a chance that the longer it is left the greater the chance that something really awful crawls out of the wordwork, but then how much worse than inciting insurrection could it get?
I think the most plausible way we get to a conviction is for enough GOP senators to have COVID scares that mean they have to quarantine or find themselves double booked onto a too-late-to-be-cancelled fact-finding mission to Guam or simply decide to wash their hair instead of going to the trial, that the Dems and the sure-to-convict Republicans like Romney can make up a 2/3 majority of those present. I don't think that's likely to happen, but I think it's slightly more likely than 17 Republicans convicting Trump. I think the likelihood also increases the longer delay to the trial as one or both of a) more damning evidence coming out or b) a diminishing of Trump's influence over the GOP once he's out of office with nowhere to tweet from are more likely to happen.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Well McConnell might be he aint going to be rushing. Apparently he has told his Democrat counterpart he has no intention of coming early to the Senate to hear it so that is probably that for a slightly early bath for Trump.
But the NYT told us McConnell was going to support impeachment so it must be true.....
They can hear the matter after inauguration. It kind of makes sense.
Oh for sure, it was just the NYT was building up hopes that McConnell would push this through. If it is only 6 House members voting for impeachment, that is quite poor and it might make McConnell think again. As said before, I don't see a huge amount of upside for McConnell in pushing this and there is a lot of potential downside.
Can't see 16 or more Republican Senators voting against Trump, whether proceedings come early or late. I suppose there's always a chance that the longer it is left the greater the chance that something really awful crawls out of the wordwork, but then how much worse than inciting insurrection could it get?
Could you have imagined ANY voting to convict BEFORE last week?
What a strange debate this is. They both know the outcome, yet each side is guarding its remaining time (about 8 minutes each now), trying to let the other go first, and doling out their allocation in 30 second rations to speakers on their own side. Which is barely enough time to develop any kind of argument and many speakers are cut off by the chair. For the listener it makes for a very unsatisfactory debate, and I can only assume the politicians are doing it so they can issue a press release to their state media.
Just discovered that our pre-Lockdown 1 stockpile of baked beans is best before the end of this month. Still 5 tins in the cupboard. Guess what we are having for tea...
I therefore urge everyone to check your tins and eat what needs eating.
In other food news, Wor Lass has sourced some pineapple jam. The perfect addition to a ham sandwich?
Trump won 2016 but lost the popular vote against one of the most divisive individuals going in Hillary Clinton He lost clearly in 2020
In 2024 he can have all the supporters he likes, all he will do is split the right leaning vote and just will not win. He wasn't likely to win in 2020 and didn't, it is not going to be any better for him in 2024 because he is going to trashed for the next 4 years.
Anyway you cant vote for a jailbird.
You really think he'll do chokey, Yokey?
I'm sure the IRS will go for his throat but they will usually accept financial restitution.
It's more likely to be the State of New York that nails him for tax fraud.
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There was an Engineering, Economics and Management course though, for those that insisted.
Substitute Camus for concrete, and you're just about there.
So he literally thinks there are zero options for removing Trump.
A British tourist has been blamed for a spike in coronavirus cases that led officials to cancel Switzerland's famous Lauberhorn ski race.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55645396
“It is an astounding number of preventable deaths from one cause in one year, [an] absolutely astounding number. It’s a sign of a phenomenal failure of policy and practice in the face of this new and dangerous virus,” Scally said.
Christina Pagel, a professor of operational research at University College London and also a member of Independent Sage, said that with deaths lagging infections by three to four weeks, the death toll would rise further. “I could say it’s shocking that [the] UK has [the] worst death toll in Europe, or we could have prevented this with earlier measures in September or October, and it would be true,” she said.
Now No Deal Brexit has been avoided I expect No voters elsewhere in the suburbs and market towns will now switch behind the SCons as the SNP continually push indyref2 and as the SNP civil war deepens
https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1349405858753605637
It's also not for that person, it's for the forgiver - it is the forgiver who benefits. So the reason they would forgive Trump is the same reason they'd forgive their mother for preferring their sibling or the bank for refusing a mortgage - to let it go. To stop it being part of their experience any more.
There are of course reasons for going quick too, but I can see why long makes sense.
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1349418743252848642
https://www.theblaze.com/news/kemp-wants-photo-id-georgia?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Pence has him by the short and curlies.
That's why they are not really being asked to forgive, they are being asked to prevent him facing consequences.
And people will have different views on what forgiveness is and requires, the same with redemption and other concepts. No doubt philosophers debate such things, and most would agree with you, but the raising of forgiveness is in any case a red herring by his defenders in Congress.
It isn't some personal forgiveness being sought, but the avoidance of formal processes - and that raises other issues where his Trump's personal response is important. It's not a morality play.
Pardons, for example, as the US Supreme Court has ruled, carry an imputation of guillt, and acceptance of them a confession of it.
In England the SNP are irrelevant and the main battle is Tory v Labour or Tory v LD or even maybe in a few areas Tory v Reform UK
He is mentally unstable. His business is in ruins. His future is bleak. He likes to be the centre of attention. He wants to upstage Biden. He'd like to be a martyr.
Just think about it for a moment - you are doing down your own party.
That is a sacking offence.
So the attempted implication that the election was therefore rigged is very Trump worthy.
If he dies before then there's an automaticity of his Presidency ending and Pence becoming POTUS.
Pence's tenure might rival the Anglo-Zanzibar war for length.
Though in most realistic Unionist target seats which require a less than 5% swing to gain them the best way to do that is to vote Tory anyway, certainly on the constituency vote.
You could be onto something here, Barnesian.
So, no.
Photo ID is big with Republicans because it both sounds reasonable AND is effective voter suppression method, just like eliminating ballot drop boxes and curtailing postal and early voting.
Governor is a) staying true to his stripes; and b) trying to propitiate the Putinists now howling for his blood.
In other words, true meaning is 180 degrees or thereabouts different from what you imply and believe.
I therefore urge everyone to check your tins and eat what needs eating.
In other food news, Wor Lass has sourced some pineapple jam. The perfect addition to a ham sandwich?
The rest of it is depressingly plausible though.
The really interesting thing to me today is where have those extra Republican votes gone ? The NYT and CNN yesterday were talking quite confidently of about 20 Senators who would vote to convict. If there's now only about 5 or 6, what has happened and why ?
Facing sentence of up to 55 years in prison, Dwyer called a press conference at the PA state capitol in Harrisburg - and shot himself on live TV.
The difference between this and a typical Amazon store is that you don't need an amazon account - it all gets charged to the credit card you swipe as you enter the store.
Republican party primaries.
Calling Philip...
It’s not their forgiveness to offer.
The fact that Trump put their lives in danger, sure, that’s theirs - but not the attempt to steal an election.
It is classic Republican tactics, though, to appeal to Democrats’ better instincts, as soon as they lose power. Bipartisanship, heal the divisions, let bygones be... etc.
Then as soon as it’s regained, let’s own the Libs.
That ship has already sailed. Or rather already been scuttled in VERY deep water by Cap'n Trumpsky.
Trump won 2016 but lost the popular vote against one of the most divisive individuals going in Hillary Clinton
He lost clearly in 2020
In 2024 he can have all the supporters he likes, all he will do is split the right leaning vote and just will not win. He wasn't likely to win in 2020 and didn't, it is not going to be any better for him in 2024 because he is going to trashed for the next 4 years.
Anyway you cant vote for a jailbird.
That is, awful (as per usual) but (technically) edible.
BUT at least if you scarf down your lockdown rations, you will NOT be able to "vent" in a crowded theater or such-like . . .
AND that Donald Trumpsky's failure to win re-election in 2020, is in some ways akin to Bonnie Prince Charlie's failure to advance beyond Derby in 1745?
Both were close-run things AND major watersheds for not just at the time, but for MANY years to come.
I'm sure the IRS will go for his throat but they will usually accept financial restitution.
I would say free will probably does not exist but it is best to live and think as if it does.
So it does. It definitely does.
You are now paying for 2 expensive journeys for 1 transport load.
That's the point about the Trumpsky Putsch - everything is changed, with new dynamic and realities.