The speculation mounts that McConnell could support the impeachment move – politicalbetting.com
The speculation mounts that McConnell could support the impeachment move – politicalbetting.com
The big development overnight on Trump is a report in the New York Times that Senate Majority leader, Mitch McConnell could just possibly support the Democratic move to impeach.
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The problem is not so much Trump, who is yesterday's news, but those idiots who argued against democracy in the Chambers at Trump's bidding, even after the invasion.
Like the pridge.
I suspect he'll roll back when the big day arrives.
Yes 9.2
No 1.11
So the market is unconvinced by McConnell's posturing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/01/12/lindsey-graham-travels-with-trump-to-texas-a-week-after-renouncing-him/?sh=28953802d9d2
ManCock: "I'm really glad that we're able to send out food for those who receive free school meals"
Piers Moron: "If you're that glad, why did you vote against it?"
ManCock: "I'm glad that we were able to put this into place"
Moron: "If you're that glad why did you, as Health Secretary, vote against it"
https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1349310087924477952
Maybe 9/1 is value... but I don't like the timescale element of the bet. I'd happily take lower odds on successful conviction without the timeline.
Sorry Donald, you're going to need that Obamacare.....
As I say I think most such comparisons are overblown, but if dismissed it needs dismissing on the grounds on which it is made, not comparing the littlest and biggest issues respectively.
People with fragile egos are the worst kind of leader.
Much better than 9/1 that Trump will be impeached, but it will be after Biden's inauguration not before it.
It is far easier to stick a knife into a corpse once the deed is already done. Have Biden be inaugurated and then the Senators can bury Trump career without removing a GOP President from office.
It will be like the trial of Pope Formosus.
His actions might be inadvisable, but dont justify outrage unless rules are broken.
What appears to be the case is not wholly irrelevant, but what actually is the case is more relevant. I dont support statues and monuments being removed in most cases. However, though I might disagree in many cases if those democratically responsible take the decision, I accept that it was up to them and done via a process.
However, Trump has whipped up a seemingly significant portion of the republican electorate so that they are suffering from foaming dog fever. Toppling The King may be a Bad Idea if you want these people to
not kill youvote for you in future.Trump continuing to defend himself may sway them to convict, give him back his YouTube account.
'As politicians, we don't vote against initiatives like this because we don't like feeding kids. We make tough decisions every day, and at the time, my judgement was that this policy wasn't affordable. The Chancellor has now found the required funding, and obviously I'm as delighted as anyone else that we can now help these families out.'
But they've already exploded once. Might as well take them on now rather than later.
Ultimately do they want to willingly be Trump's bitch, as he would think it, or fight back against this loser?
Have some pride.
I think following this precedent Magrahi's remains should really be exhumed and be present for the hearing. It might make it more interesting.
If Congress were to vote to impeach and vote to bar him, then surely Congress could also vote to say formally that it enacts the provisions to remove the pension, staff and offices etc with a clean bill to do so? Even if technically it didn't?
I will try again. My only criticism of Boris, on the facts that I am aware of, is that he didn't have the foresight to realise it may cause a problem in the media.
And that lack of foresight came into the category of 'the bleeding obvious'.
Sometimes it's the only way out.
They are living on their knees, shit scared of the QAnon brigade.
Appeasing loonies rarely works out well.
Of course the problem with the "Rishi sez no" line to take is that it only further highlights the government's mad priorities when it comes to public money. Cash for well fed people to have cheap restaurant dinners? No problem. Cash for our mates? Here's £100m. Cash for feeding hungry kids? Fuck off their mam will spend it on tabs and booze.
More on food parcels, incluidng shielding people - and reminding us of the problem of formal specifications for the latter vs real deliveries.
As used in this section, the term “former President” means a person--
(1) who shall have held the office of President of the United States of America;
(2) whose service in such office shall have terminated other than by removal pursuant to section 4 of article II of the Constitution of the United States of America; and
(3) who does not then currently hold such office.
So that would need changing to 'shall not have suffered impeachment and conviction.'
They could do it but I think probably they won't. THat would look vindictive, fuel his claims of a conspiracy against him and really would set many cats among many Republican pigeons...
I mean, this isn't hard. Why do Hancock and Williamson have to make it so?
A Trump Library could become a Mecca for QAnon nuts and white supremacists. Do the GOP Senators still want to be associated with that indefinitely into the future after last Wednesday?
But the body produces many different antibodies to the spike protein, so it's not a simple matter at all. And the strong likelihood seems to be that even a virus evolved for vaccine escape won't simply become ineffective, just less effective.
Now we know more about the virus, it's likely that future vaccines will incorporate a mixture targeting several different modifications/evolutions of the spike protein (something relatively simple to do with the mRNA vaccines), which would make vaccine escape very hard.
Manufacturers just didn't have either the knowledge or time to do so last year.
So when I've screwed up (a £20k cost the company at one point) I've always been the first to say "this was me, I'm sorry, here's how we can fix it" followed by a volunteered autopsy of what went wrong. Its what I have always drilled into my team - confess early before they have chance to get angry about it.
So yes, a "we got this one wrong, there are so many issues we have to take into account, we're sorry" would have both killed the narrative dead and bought them some sympathy or at least understanding.
Essentially backdating the removal.
The fact that the impeachment occurred in the House prior to inauguration could provide enough cover to do that as a grey area even if the Senate haven't convicted in time.
We definitely should be doing as longer hours if supply is there, the "people said they don't fancy coming before 8am" was a nonsense argument. But you have to have the infrastructure and supply there to do it.
They could amend the FPA, however. Whether that would be wise is another question.
'.....Cleared through the great U-Bend of history........'
https://twitter.com/ArtToday7/status/1306307080563851271
This is a train crash. A 150 minute, high speed, broken rail with 747 putting down on the ruins train crash.
I doubt Trump even if convicted by the Senate would have as much self-respect and decency as Nixon had.
(And wasn't it only Secret Service protection, or did he give up his pension too?)
2,677,971- 1,296,432 = 1,381,539 vaccinations (both 1st and 2nd)
Which comes out to 197,362 per day averaged over a 7 day week.
The rate per day will vary over the week, just as the rate for testing does. The patterns in this will become apparent as we get more data.
On 19 Dec, Mark Drakeford said "Please don’t rush to the shops tonight. As we move to alert level four in Wales most shops must close but supermarkets will remain open, and click and collect will be available."
And, an hour or so later on 19th December, phone footage of Mark Drakeford in Lidl buying his massive Xmas turkey was circulating on Twitter. Mark must have dashed out immediately after telling everyone else in Wales not to.
It is not, though, a big deal and nor is Boris' bike ride.
Smartphones are gradually making it impossible for anyone at the top of politics to have any expectation of privacy at all. In terms of attracting half-way competent people to do these jobs, it is not very healthy.
I don't think the problem here lies with "the lack of foresight" of Boris or Mark, it lies with the relentless 24 hour blame game of the modern media.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_library
Such libraries are an awkward public/private mix in terms of funding, concept and administration but until Trump, that hasn't really been a deeply contested matter.
It will be now.
I said much the same last year.
On one occasion I had to go to bat for a junior, who fucked up. He realised that the fuck up could cause a big problem and reported it to me.
The pressure to punish him from above was intense - and weirdly, some of it sounded like "punish the weakling for owning up. A strong man..."... Not in words, but in tone.
Looks like centralised stuff for photo opps rather than sense, but above my pay grade.
I better not find out I can't go and get vaccine at my local GPs because it is all being handled at a sports arena 20 miles away.
Did you see this?
https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/1349279905649975297?s=19
Two standout points:
1 That Gove deliberately made School Commissioner Regions mad, to prevent the influence of local and regional politicians. So London is cut between 3 regions, which then go out to Norfolk or the Isle of Wight. West Yorkshire is lumped in with Lancashire. And so on.
2 The suggestion that Westminster would have run the epidemic even hotter (more cases and deaths) had there been more hospital capacity.