If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
We had goose one year. The fat levels were just unmanageable. Literally pints. Never again.
We stick to chicken - we prefer it to turkey. May not be the most unique meat since we eat it all year around, but we eat it all year around because we enjoy it so why not eat it at Christmas? Plus its all the trimmings that go with the meal that make it unique anyway so why not have a meat you enjoy?
If having a large gathering then we do gammon as well.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
We had goose one year. The fat levels were just unmanageable. Literally pints. Never again.
We discussed having a goose if it's just Mrs C and me. Do that at New Year sometimes. You're right about the fat, though.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
I think this loss of immunity is grossly overstated, at least in the short to medium term. There are literally a handful of cases of reinfection properly documented in the world to date. A year from now that may have changed, slightly.
Agree about the turkey farmers though. Some will have their families regardless but we are more of a law abiding bunch than we are sometimes given credit for, the one's not complying make a lot more noise. A lot of fattened turkeys are going to last a bit longer than normal.
Reminds me of the brilliant Hamlet advert where the turkey is pretty cheerful and then sees a snowflake...
I think Boris is going to relax the rules over Xmas and allow indoor mingling and up to 12 people. It will mean a small bump in R but will be good for morale and mental health (and for Boris as Father Xmas).
If pretty much everybody - i.e. including every single infected person - is spending a few days indoors eating and drinking with friends and families, logic suggests the knock on effect may not be so small, sadly.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
Independent: Councils in England and Wales have handed hunts more than £160,000 of taxpayers’ money in grants intended to help businesses struggling during the pandemic.
Shropshire has given out £50,000 – the highest total donated by the seven local authorities that have paid out.
Critics said it was outrageous that hard-working taxpayers should be subsidising hunts.
Clearly this policy has foxed people.
They should be hounded from office, but I expect will go to ground...
I expect many people are baying for their blood.
A pack of scoundrels.
and the government (and a batch of its councils) chased straight down another hole.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
You need a big oven, and a deep dish below for all the fat., Tastes great, especially the darker meat
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
Vf has now finally stopped loading comments (period) on my phone on chrome.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Getting more difficult daily on iPad loading comments, normally completely stops early evening disconnects from server especially when large amounts of data dropped all at once.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
For the last few days I've been finding it takes ages to load the site on a mobile (Samsung, Chrome App). Have others been having problems?
Yep. Discussed the day before yesterday AIR
My problem is that on my phone I constantly get diverted to some online casino offering free spins when trying to load the site. Its got to the point I can only get on on my phone by finding the old link in my history.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
A local turkey farmer/farm foods shop operator is planning to sell 'half turkeys' apparently. Split down the middle so there's a leg on each.
Turkey crown is another good choice - still plenty of meat. I imagine there must be a lot of spare turkey legs, that probably end up in dog food.
One thing I tried last year for the first time that went very well is brining the turkey - night before, submerge it in salted water with various fruit, herbs and veg (there are tons of recipes), which you boil up beforehand AIR. Added to flavour and ensured the meat stayed moist. For a crown it can be done in a large saucepan; for a whole turkey you'd need a washing up bowl or bucket. Highly recommended.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
For the last few days I've been finding it takes ages to load the site on a mobile (Samsung, Chrome App). Have others been having problems?
Yep. Discussed the day before yesterday AIR
My problem is that on my phone I constantly get diverted to some online casino offering free spins when trying to load the site. Its got to the point I can only get on on my phone by finding the old link in my history.
Yes, that`s been happening for ages - Robert is aware but is struggling to resolve this. It is really annoying. Usually I have to try to access the site from my phone four times before it loads correctly.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
You need a big oven, and a deep dish below for all the fat., Tastes great, especially the darker meat
What's it like cold?
Just a large chicken for us this year as usual. I prefer it to Turkey, and looks like just 5 of us on the day, inc two pescatarians.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
You need a big oven, and a deep dish below for all the fat., Tastes great, especially the darker meat
What's it like cold?
Just a large chicken for us this year as usual. I prefer it to Turkey, and looks like just 5 of us on the day, inc two pescatarians.
West Midlands police on high alert for civil unrest this winter.
"Mr Jamieson [PCC] predicted that it was "very likely" there could be civil unrest in the West Midlands in the near future, adding that the "turning point for a lot of people" could be if they are made unemployed when the furlough scheme ends later this month. He said his force was on "heavy alert for the unexpected".
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".
I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.
Looking at it closer, the data seems to only be available for mail-in.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".
I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.
So the vote is in the post (and may not be counted courtesy of the SC)?
Central Scotland have been on a fairly severe lockdown for 3 weeks already and counting. Its not working. I think its pretty obvious that the return of students to Universities and schools have more than offset every other measure. Like Boris Sturgeon is currently committed to keeping the schools open if at all possible. I am increasingly concerned it may not be.
We had a virtual parents night for my son last night. His school is clearly working to be ready for returning to distance learning again, if required. I fear it will be with horrendous implications for the education of kids at schools not so well prepared.
We were ordered to take all necessary equipment to commence distance learning home before half term.
I am not sure whether that was a wise leader taking sensible precautions or a grim foreboding.
Of course, it may simply be that they feared more staff would have to self isolate.
We’ve got a couple of training days at the end of half-term to prepare material for distance learning, though that is more due to the certainty that some pupils will be self-isolating. In the Physics department we are splitting it up so I’m only having to worry about two of the years. I’ve been preparing lessons up to Christmas so far and will be moving into next year before we start teaching again: this is a bit of a culture shock for me as usually the only preparation I do is enough to make sure I’ve booked the needed equipment for each lesson by the previous Friday.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
Although the red cabbage option might be of interest on the vegetarian side. It does sound rather delicious. I’m tempted to do it this year anyway especially since it doesn’t have to be done on the day.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
West Midlands police on high alert for civil unrest this winter.
"Mr Jamieson [PCC] predicted that it was "very likely" there could be civil unrest in the West Midlands in the near future, adding that the "turning point for a lot of people" could be if they are made unemployed when the furlough scheme ends later this month. He said his force was on "heavy alert for the unexpected".
"We're sitting on a time bomb here,"
(Telegraph)
Sounds like they might need additional staff to deal with it. Just stick job applications for the police on the end of their batons, solve two problems.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".
I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.
So the vote is in the post (and may not be counted courtesy of the SC)?
They don't do any counting/processing before election night (by order of the State legislature), and the Supreme Court is on the verge of preventing them from extending their deadline for receipt of votes on the grounds that the State legislature wants a result declared on the night...
Central Scotland have been on a fairly severe lockdown for 3 weeks already and counting. Its not working. I think its pretty obvious that the return of students to Universities and schools have more than offset every other measure. Like Boris Sturgeon is currently committed to keeping the schools open if at all possible. I am increasingly concerned it may not be.
We had a virtual parents night for my son last night. His school is clearly working to be ready for returning to distance learning again, if required. I fear it will be with horrendous implications for the education of kids at schools not so well prepared.
We were ordered to take all necessary equipment to commence distance learning home before half term.
I am not sure whether that was a wise leader taking sensible precautions or a grim foreboding.
Of course, it may simply be that they feared more staff would have to self isolate.
We’ve got a couple of training days at the end of half-term to prepare material for distance learning, though that is more due to the certainty that some pupils will be self-isolating. In the Physics department we are splitting it up so I’m only having to worry about two of the years. I’ve been preparing lessons up to Christmas so far and will be moving into next year before we start teaching again: this is a bit of a culture shock for me as usually the only preparation I do is enough to make sure I’ve booked the needed equipment for each lesson by the previous Friday.
I hope things are a little less fraught round your way than they are in Staffs.
But truthfully, short of something dramatic I think if we’re to have a communal Christmas at all then there will need to be a strict lockdown in the next month. That’s even before all the other issues this mess of tiers and regulations are causing.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".
I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.
So the vote is in the post (and may not be counted courtesy of the SC)?
Looking at it closer, I think that Pennsylvania only has absentee mail-in, or absentee mail-in drop off. It doesn't have "early voting" in the sense that Texas, Georgia, etc have.
West Midlands police on high alert for civil unrest this winter.
"Mr Jamieson [PCC] predicted that it was "very likely" there could be civil unrest in the West Midlands in the near future, adding that the "turning point for a lot of people" could be if they are made unemployed when the furlough scheme ends later this month. He said his force was on "heavy alert for the unexpected".
"We're sitting on a time bomb here,"
(Telegraph)
Sounds like they might need additional staff to deal with it. Just stick job applications for the police on the end of their batons, solve two problems.
They will impress people as a recruitment strategy.
Central Scotland have been on a fairly severe lockdown for 3 weeks already and counting. Its not working. I think its pretty obvious that the return of students to Universities and schools have more than offset every other measure. Like Boris Sturgeon is currently committed to keeping the schools open if at all possible. I am increasingly concerned it may not be.
We had a virtual parents night for my son last night. His school is clearly working to be ready for returning to distance learning again, if required. I fear it will be with horrendous implications for the education of kids at schools not so well prepared.
Deaths are coming down across Scotland even as cases and ICU rises. Which is odd.
Here in Edinburgh cases are coming down at a pleasing clip. After the student spike it seems Edinburgers have kept themselves to themselves.
'Ye'll have had yer tea, Covid.'
There was uproar when the rule of 6 was introduced in Edinburgh. It all calmed down when people realised you didn't actually have to invite anyone over, never mind 5 other people.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
The SAGE release is another forecast. Presumably from the same Ferguson/UCL font of wisdom that was relied on in the spring.
This again? That was a worst case (i.e. no mitigation) estimate. With (really, very strong in the spring lockdown) mitigation we still have well over 40k confirmed deaths, higher on other measures. So far. That estimate looks more and more plausible for what would have happened if we'd done nothing as time goes on.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Pennsylvania is the odd one there. With such a closely contested state that many identified early on as the tipping point you would have expected a much higher figure for EV. I wonder if they are just behind in counting them.
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".
I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.
So the vote is in the post (and may not be counted courtesy of the SC)?
Looking at it closer, I think that Pennsylvania only has absentee mail-in, or absentee mail-in drop off. It doesn't have "early voting" in the sense that Texas, Georgia, etc have.
It has one stop "register for early vote, pickup form, get witnessed by polling staff drop off all in a one-er" but that ended yesterday.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
FTSE looking bad today. We might be going lower than March soon. Rolls Royce down 64% this morning.
Glad to have a pretty defensive position, but still ouch.
RR are getting kicked out of the Naval Reactor Test Establishment at Dounreay as the PWR3 reactor for the Dreadnoughts and Astute replacements is going to be tested using software simulation only rather than a shore installation. Nothing could possibly go wrong with this innovative cost-saving measure. Hopefully Dido H. will be in charge of it.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Found a big old tin at the back of a cupboard last week and decided it needed eating up. Turned out to be a confit of goose thigh and unbelievably delicious, with the added payoff that I now have about a pint of goose fat in the fridge.
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
Although the red cabbage option might be of interest on the vegetarian side. It does sound rather delicious. I’m tempted to do it this year anyway especially since it doesn’t have to be done on the day.
My grandmother had a great recipe for what she called “Czech cabbage” which used red cabbage. It is one of my regrets in life that I never got a copy of it from her before she died.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
RP, One benefit of covid is I discovered Flavourly , they do some great craft beers, good prices, great selection and fast free delivery. Particularly good small Scottish ones like Black Isle brewery as well.
West Midlands police on high alert for civil unrest this winter.
"Mr Jamieson [PCC] predicted that it was "very likely" there could be civil unrest in the West Midlands in the near future, adding that the "turning point for a lot of people" could be if they are made unemployed when the furlough scheme ends later this month. He said his force was on "heavy alert for the unexpected".
"We're sitting on a time bomb here,"
(Telegraph)
Sounds like they might need additional staff to deal with it. Just stick job applications for the police on the end of their batons, solve two problems.
They will impress people as a recruitment strategy.
It would do their diversity stats a world of good. Real Clockwork Orange stuff for the Droogs.
There is a big step forward between "suspected for some time" and scientific studies confirming what was suspected.
Not that big a step, yet:
"It could be that severe viral illness routinely results in the production of autoantibodies with little consequence; this could just be the first time we’re seeing it. We also don’t know how long the autoantibodies last. Our data suggest that they are relatively stable over a few weeks. But, we need follow-up studies to understand if they are persisting routinely beyond infection recovery.
Importantly, we believe that the autoreactive responses we have identified here are specific to the SARS-CoV-2 infection – there is no reason to believe that similar results would be expected through vaccination against the virus."
I cannot get my head round that second paragraph.Para 1: we have no idea whether this is a Sars thing or an every viral infection there ever was thing, para 2: but we are confident on the basis of absence of evidence not evidence of absence, that it is a Sars thing but not a Sars vaccine thing, no sirree.
A vaccine is not the virus, and will not contain the molecular structures which have this effect (some of which have been identified).
I had thought that the immune-system-attacks-the-body effect was known - to the point that treatments were being based on that.
I seem to recall a paper that examined cases of patients with reduced immune systems - in some types of this the probability of hospitalisation level COVID seemed to be reduced....
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Do you actually think these super-spreader rallies are going to be what wins it for Trump? Really?
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
Central Scotland have been on a fairly severe lockdown for 3 weeks already and counting. Its not working. I think its pretty obvious that the return of students to Universities and schools have more than offset every other measure. Like Boris Sturgeon is currently committed to keeping the schools open if at all possible. I am increasingly concerned it may not be.
We had a virtual parents night for my son last night. His school is clearly working to be ready for returning to distance learning again, if required. I fear it will be with horrendous implications for the education of kids at schools not so well prepared.
Deaths are coming down across Scotland even as cases and ICU rises. Which is odd.
Here in Edinburgh cases are coming down at a pleasing clip. After the student spike it seems Edinburgers have kept themselves to themselves.
'Ye'll have had yer tea, Covid.'
There was uproar when the rule of 6 was introduced in Edinburgh. It all calmed down when people realised you didn't actually have to invite anyone over, never mind 5 other people.
Deaths are a lagging indicator. So it is perfectly possible to end up in a situation where cases are falling and deaths are rising.
On the Christmas Dinner front, I would recommend this as a vegan alternative, if having vegetarian guests. It is quite easy to make, can be prepared in advance and reheated on the day, and really seasonal and tasty.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
The SAGE release is another forecast. Presumably from the same Ferguson/UCL font of wisdom that was relied on in the spring.
But 367 deaths yesterday is not a forecast, it is a recorded fact.
Under the model there was to 10K dead in 'low level mitigation' Sweden. The model outputs don't match the real world out turns.
Versus (quick google) 6000 so far? I don't know what precision you were expecting, but a factor of less than two is not that bad in this kind of model, which is supposed to give an idea of scale only - there are a lot of assumptions involved, all with errors attached and based, at that point on very incomplete information. Also factor in that the drop in transit/office working etc in Sweden was much more than the restrictions themselves necessitated. The model assumptions likely underestimated how much people would curb their own activities, semi-voluntarily.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Found a big old tin at the back of a cupboard last week and decided it needed eating up. Turned out to be a confit of goose thigh and unbelievably delicious, with the added payoff that I now have about a pint of goose fat in the fridge.
Now that is an idea: confit de canard or similar in a big tin (I can get it from Occado) as a standby in case I can’t go to relatives for Christmas as I usually do.
On the Christmas Dinner front, I would recommend this as a vegan alternative, if having vegetarian guests. It is quite easy to make, can be prepared in advance and reheated on the day, and really seasonal and tasty.
For the last few days I've been finding it takes ages to load the site on a mobile (Samsung, Chrome App). Have others been having problems?
I started noticing embedded twitter was taking a long time to load but all else loaded fine, but last few days comments taking a while to load at all on any mobile device.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
About 16 minutes in.
Thanks. (Sounds rather a short cooking time, though )
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
There will be years of material for psychology papers just from the lockdownsceptics.org website. How easily and persistently otherwise intelligent people abandoned critical thinking to be totally gullible towards a right-wing polemicist who was almost totally scientifically illiterate, statistically illiterate, and economically illiterate... just because he was saying something they dearly wanted to believe was true.
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
I doubt a few bus problems in Omaha will make much difference, even if Biden wins NE02 it is only 1 EC vote
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
I doubt a few bus problems in Omaha will make much difference, even if Biden wins NE02 it is only 1 EC vote
He should have provided them all with free balloons, then the hot air from his speech would have allowed them to drift peacefully back home or wherever they desired.
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
I doubt a few bus problems in Omaha will make much difference, even if Biden wins NE02 it is only 1 EC vote
Oh I wasn't saying it would, just is an amazing thing to forget by someone. Only thing to budge the polls this election cycle was Trump getting covid and that has roughly settled back to how it was before now.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
On the Christmas Dinner front, I would recommend this as a vegan alternative, if having vegetarian guests. It is quite easy to make, can be prepared in advance and reheated on the day, and really seasonal and tasty.
And of course, don't cook the roasteds in goose fat...
I know right, imagine eating the flesh of another living thing in 2020?
It won't be living when we eat it.
Many years ago our daughter, in her late teens decided to go veggie. For Christmas we went to bro-in-law and, just in case, took a nut roast (or similar) for daughter. Sister-in-law was horrified 'You mean she won't eat turkey on Christmas Day"!.
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
I doubt a few bus problems in Omaha will make much difference, even if Biden wins NE02 it is only 1 EC vote
I have always found political campaigns (no matter what party) to be very impressive considering what is required, I guess because people are very motivated. There can be no excuse about a 1 day delay; your target date is set in stone.
Every campaign has cockups but generally they do much better than can reasonably be expected.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
There will be years of material for psychology papers just from the lockdownsceptics.org website. How easily and persistently otherwise intelligent people abandoned critical thinking to be totally gullible towards a right-wing polemicist who was almost totally scientifically illiterate, statistically illiterate, and economically illiterate... just because he was saying something they dearly wanted to believe was true.
Vf has now finally stopped loading comments (period) on my phone on chrome.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Ditto, if I switch my phone to desktop view then the vf.politicalbetting.com domain will load.
I can only use it if sitting at my desktop now, and nowhere else.
My wife is remarkably pleased about this.
Can't quite work out the implications of that - is it because you're less focused on PB and have more time to spend with her or because you now have to retire to another room to use the desktop and she gets more time without you?
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Of course leaving your supporters abandoned at the venue is not the best way to end it of course. Someone had a massive brain fart when arranging the transport
I doubt a few bus problems in Omaha will make much difference, even if Biden wins NE02 it is only 1 EC vote
He should have provided them all with free balloons, then the hot air from his speech would have allowed them to drift peacefully back home or wherever they desired.
(With apologies to the Wizard of Oz.)
Are you saying that they are not in Kansas any more?
The slow loading of comments is going to be a real problem next Tuesday night. On PB election nights there are the quick and the broke...
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Given we know most Democrats will vote before election day and most Republicans will vote on election day New Hampshire looks like a possible GOP pick up , Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia and Ohio look close, Pennsylvania looks good for Trump and Arizona and Florida, Texas, Nevada and North Carolina look relatively good for Biden compared to 2016
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Given we know most Democrats will vote before election day and most Republicans will vote on election day New Hampshire looks like a possible GOP pick up there
New Hampshire doesn't have "early voting" either as far as I'm aware.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
Although the red cabbage option might be of interest on the vegetarian side. It does sound rather delicious. I’m tempted to do it this year anyway especially since it doesn’t have to be done on the day.
My grandmother had a great recipe for what she called “Czech cabbage” which used red cabbage. It is one of my regrets in life that I never got a copy of it from her before she died.
@ydoethur 's two fat ladies' version looks more like my mother's. With apple, onion, butter, vinegar, sugar, salt - plus cinnamon and ground cloves (approx 3:1) - layered in a dish & baked in the oven.
The stuffing (prunes soaked in Earl Grey & vermouth..etc.) looks amazing.
Texas turnout as a whole is ALREADY at 88% of 2016 so it's almost certainly going to be a high turnout election in Texas.
Correction. It's 84%.
Given we know most Democrats will vote before election day and most Republicans will vote on election day New Hampshire looks like a possible GOP pick up there
New Hampshire doesn't have "early voting" either as far as I'm aware.
It doesn't, only has absentee ballots, so everyone else is on the day
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
About 16 minutes in.
Thanks. (Sounds rather a short cooking time, though )
I am very keen to try goose for Christmas, but always have a rebellion on my hands when proposing it and it is expensive. Any recommendations. There will be a maximum of 5 of us so a whole goose will be too much.
We don't particularly like turkey.
Last year we had a relatively small bird, within a bird, within.... etc, but being small only got very small bits of some bird (it wasn't really 'within' but bits around the side).
Previous 2 years I made a beef wellington, which is easy on the day, but a lot of work the day before to make, but which I enjoyed doing.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
There will be years of material for psychology papers just from the lockdownsceptics.org website. How easily and persistently otherwise intelligent people abandoned critical thinking to be totally gullible towards a right-wing polemicist who was almost totally scientifically illiterate, statistically illiterate, and economically illiterate... just because he was saying something they dearly wanted to believe was true.
The US can boast a Nobel laureate who was predicting it would all be over by last summer.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
We had goose one year. The fat levels were just unmanageable. Literally pints. Never again.
We had goose once. My husband fumbled with the tray getting it out of the oven and we ended up with goose fat everywhere in the kitchen and an expensive pair of shoes ruined.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
Its so frustrating that those most sceptical of lockdowns persist in insisting upon bad science.
I'm sceptical too - libertarianism is always my go to - but I believe in good science. It should be possible to make libertarian arguments without bad science and if you can't there's a problem.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
Ads at this stage with less than a week to go will not make much difference, virtually everyone has made up their mind, what is more important now is rallies to fire up your base and get them out to vote and the Trump campaign has again been ensuring everyone who attends a Trump rally is registered to go out and vote next Tuesday.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
Although the red cabbage option might be of interest on the vegetarian side. It does sound rather delicious. I’m tempted to do it this year anyway especially since it doesn’t have to be done on the day.
My grandmother had a great recipe for what she called “Czech cabbage” which used red cabbage. It is one of my regrets in life that I never got a copy of it from her before she died.
@ydoethur 's two fat ladies' version looks more like my mother's. With apple, onion, butter, vinegar, sugar, salt - plus cinnamon and ground cloves (approx 3:1) - layered in a dish & baked in the oven.
The stuffing (prunes soaked in Earl Grey & vermouth..etc.) looks amazing.
I make red cabbage a lot. Sounds similar to what I do. Lovely cold as well. I don't put salt in, but I don't for most things. I do add sultanas. Takes a lot of cooking.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
Central Scotland have been on a fairly severe lockdown for 3 weeks already and counting. Its not working. I think its pretty obvious that the return of students to Universities and schools have more than offset every other measure. Like Boris Sturgeon is currently committed to keeping the schools open if at all possible. I am increasingly concerned it may not be.
We had a virtual parents night for my son last night. His school is clearly working to be ready for returning to distance learning again, if required. I fear it will be with horrendous implications for the education of kids at schools not so well prepared.
Deaths are coming down across Scotland even as cases and ICU rises. Which is odd.
Here in Edinburgh cases are coming down at a pleasing clip. After the student spike it seems Edinburgers have kept themselves to themselves.
'Ye'll have had yer tea, Covid.'
There was uproar when the rule of 6 was introduced in Edinburgh. It all calmed down when people realised you didn't actually have to invite anyone over, never mind 5 other people.
Deaths are a lagging indicator. So it is perfectly possible to end up in a situation where cases are falling and deaths are rising.
If there is no lasting immunity can they let the students home for Christmas? I’m glad I’m not a turkey farmer or butcher trying to plan for the holiday.
If you were a turkey farmer you already have the turkeys. If the Asda* buyer slashes their order then the birds have to go somewhere - I'd expect a whole load of new Direct to Consumer sales at bargain prices which hopefully then in turn leaves the Asda buyer up shit creek.
*other more Covid-secure supermarkets are available
We've ordered our turkey, though we don't know who we're eating it with. Isn't it possible there will be demand for more turkeys this year?
If we normally share a turkey with another household, but this year the two households eat separately and both want a turkey for tradition's sake, then that's a lot more turkey.
Or a goose.
I would quite look forward to cooking a goose. I’ve got an amazing recipe for goose, stuffing, goose fat roast potatoes and red cabbage I want to try.
Care to share ? I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
You must be hungry.
Or just greedy.
Check out the teacher's video below, just to remind yourself how big they are (although do they have a large cavity inside)
Although the red cabbage option might be of interest on the vegetarian side. It does sound rather delicious. I’m tempted to do it this year anyway especially since it doesn’t have to be done on the day.
My grandmother had a great recipe for what she called “Czech cabbage” which used red cabbage. It is one of my regrets in life that I never got a copy of it from her before she died.
@ydoethur 's two fat ladies' version looks more like my mother's. With apple, onion, butter, vinegar, sugar, salt - plus cinnamon and ground cloves (approx 3:1) - layered in a dish & baked in the oven.
The stuffing (prunes soaked in Earl Grey & vermouth..etc.) looks amazing.
I make red cabbage a lot. Sounds similar to what I do. Lovely cold as well. I don't put salt in, but I don't for most things. I do add sultanas. Takes a lot of cooking.
The salt is only the barest pinch. Unnecessary if you're using salted butter.
Diverting away from the US election and Soy Sauce for a moment, the latest leaked SAGE forecasts are sobering*. Pox hospitalisation forecasted to peak above the spring high and then stay that high for a prolonged period. Happily we have got a highly responsive and competent government in charge so we don't need to worry about them doing anything heartless or stupid.
*I for one intend to be a good friend to Scotch Whisky and interesting ale producers this winter
The gaps between populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap and it being confirmed (once again) that they're populist fuckwits spouting dangerous crap just get shorter and shorter.
The SAGE release is another forecast. Presumably from the same Ferguson/UCL font of wisdom that was relied on in the spring.
Oh, give it a rest. You're just so desperate to smear the forecasts because you don't like the outcomes that they predict.
Ferguson's UK model a) is not the only model used by SAGE, b) turned out pretty accurate in the spring, and c) has been peer-reviewed and published.
--AS
I notice nobody is talking about false positives these days.
Indeed, although they may be circling back to "most would have died anyway". And I noticed the old classic "Ferguson was wrong about mad cow disease and therefore wrong about everything, even those things where events have proved him roughly correct".
Its so frustrating that those most sceptical of lockdowns persist in insisting upon bad science.
I'm sceptical too - libertarianism is always my go to - but I believe in good science. It should be possible to make libertarian arguments without bad science and if you can't there's a problem.
Science is easy to attack, the average person doesn't understand it and scientist generally are not very good at explaining it down to a level the general public can understand.
Its been a big bug bear for me for a long time with Climate Change, at some point it became a "left wing" issue and the "right wing" just surrendered the issue and proposing conservative based solutions. Of course differs from country to country, the UK is actually quite good with the Tories in general recognizing the problem an acting, the US however.....
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If having a large gathering then we do gammon as well.
I’ve never cooked goose, but with two vegetarians in the family, and no visitors, it sounds a good option.
Just glad I avoided a typo in my riposte.
Tiny Tim is not invited.
About 16 minutes in.
One thing I tried last year for the first time that went very well is brining the turkey - night before, submerge it in salted water with various fruit, herbs and veg (there are tons of recipes), which you boil up beforehand AIR. Added to flavour and ensured the meat stayed moist. For a crown it can be done in a large saucepan; for a whole turkey you'd need a washing up bowl or bucket. Highly recommended.
Just a large chicken for us this year as usual. I prefer it to Turkey, and looks like just 5 of us on the day, inc two pescatarians.
"Mr Jamieson [PCC] predicted that it was "very likely" there could be civil unrest in the West Midlands in the near future, adding that the "turning point for a lot of people" could be if they are made unemployed when the furlough scheme ends later this month. He said his force was on "heavy alert for the unexpected".
"We're sitting on a time bomb here,"
(Telegraph)
I think Pennsylvania has mail-in only and no "drop off".I'm wrong - it does. You're right it is a weird one.Looking at it closer, the data seems to only be available for mail-in.
In the Physics department we are splitting it up so I’m only having to worry about two of the years. I’ve been preparing lessons up to Christmas so far and will be moving into next year before we start teaching again: this is a bit of a culture shock for me as usually the only preparation I do is enough to make sure I’ve booked the needed equipment for each lesson by the previous Friday.
The man's on fire and this is a must watch.
Glad to have a pretty defensive position, but still ouch.
https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
There's a 2-3 week lag for hospitalisations/deaths. So 10-11th November is crunch time, I think.
But truthfully, short of something dramatic I think if we’re to have a communal Christmas at all then there will need to be a strict lockdown in the next month. That’s even before all the other issues this mess of tiers and regulations are causing.
My wife is remarkably pleased about this.
But US is down also. Looks like we are going to repeat what happened in March (as I predicted in June)
Harris and Trump will be in Arizona later today
Edit: this looks like it might be similar though: https://www.littlebitofczech.com/?recipe=cooked-red-cabbage-dusene-cervene-zeli
https://youtu.be/GeRGTXZIJTI
I seem to recall a paper that examined cases of patients with reduced immune systems - in some types of this the probability of hospitalisation level COVID seemed to be reduced....
https://www.olivemagazine.com/recipes/vegan/chestnut-squash-and-sweet-potato-loaf/
And of course, don't cook the roasteds in goose fat...
https://twitter.com/ChronicleLive/status/1321142374937088005?s=20
(Sounds rather a short cooking time, though
How easily and persistently otherwise intelligent people abandoned critical thinking to be totally gullible towards a right-wing polemicist who was almost totally scientifically illiterate, statistically illiterate, and economically illiterate... just because he was saying something they dearly wanted to believe was true.
(With apologies to the Wizard of Oz.)
(yes, last 3-5 days is incomplete).
Also, this excellent diagram from a BMJ publication is very useful
Many years ago our daughter, in her late teens decided to go veggie. For Christmas we went to bro-in-law and, just in case, took a nut roast (or similar) for daughter. Sister-in-law was horrified 'You mean she won't eat turkey on Christmas Day"!.
Every campaign has cockups but generally they do much better than can reasonably be expected.
The slow loading of comments is going to be a real problem next Tuesday night. On PB election nights there are the quick and the broke...
With apple, onion, butter, vinegar, sugar, salt - plus cinnamon and ground cloves (approx 3:1) - layered in a dish & baked in the oven.
The stuffing (prunes soaked in Earl Grey & vermouth..etc.) looks amazing.
Surrounded by plague quarantine zones of South Yorkshire and Nottingham(shire).
Inevitable you get shunted into Tier 3.
We don't particularly like turkey.
Last year we had a relatively small bird, within a bird, within.... etc, but being small only got very small bits of some bird (it wasn't really 'within' but bits around the side).
Previous 2 years I made a beef wellington, which is easy on the day, but a lot of work the day before to make, but which I enjoyed doing.
Ferguson's UK model a) is not the only model used by SAGE, b) turned out pretty accurate in the spring, and c) has been peer-reviewed and published.
--AS
I'm sceptical too - libertarianism is always my go to - but I believe in good science. It should be possible to make libertarian arguments without bad science and if you can't there's a problem.
Unnecessary if you're using salted butter.
--AS
Its been a big bug bear for me for a long time with Climate Change, at some point it became a "left wing" issue and the "right wing" just surrendered the issue and proposing conservative based solutions. Of course differs from country to country, the UK is actually quite good with the Tories in general recognizing the problem an acting, the US however.....