I’ve finally bet on Biden as next President at a 67% chance – politicalbetting.com
Ever since the 2020 White House Race started formally ahead of the first primary TV debates in June last year I have been very critical of Joe Biden and never thought that he would get the nomination.
To be fair, PPP is a Democratic polling firm. Other polls in Montana have shown a much larger Trump lead there. It is entirely possible that PPP are also selectively releasing polling that favours a narrative that they think favours their cause. In this case to encourage their supporters to go to the polls by believing that the Democrats are in with a shout. Even if they don't need Montana for the White House, there is a tight Senate race there, so Dems going to the polls in Montana does matter a lot in terms of the prospects of the Dems controlling the Senate.
I suggest that it's best at this point to discount all polling by conducted by companies that either have links to the respective parties (the likes of PPP, Trafalgar, Rasmussen) or which was commissioned by organisations which are strongly campaigning for either side.
Its all good until this tweet...sigh...my article is gah substandard, because i only got comment from white men (no matter how qualified they are on the subject), please don't beat me up over this, i have some more diversity in a different article. What a sad atttitude, not basing your article on accuracy and academic quality of the contributors, but what is the make up of their gender and skin colour.
Its all good until this tweet...sigh...my article is gah substandard, because i only got comment from white men (no matter how qualified they are on the subject), please don't beat me up over this, i have some more diversity in a different article. What a sad atttitude, not basing your article on accuracy and academic quality of the contributors, but what is the make up of their gender and skin colour.
It is every chancellor’s job to worry about the wind changing. It is the current prime minister’s habit not to care. Even without differences of economic philosophy, tension is inevitable between Johnson’s incoherence, promising the earth with no regard for who should pay, and Sunak’s need to be independent and in control of the Treasury. His campaign for the succession is built on his brand as the serious, capable one in a cabinet of rogues and ninnies. It is a catch-22: being chancellor puts Sunak in pole position to take over, but the longer he serves as a Johnson loyalist, the less attractive he looks as a potential prime minister.
The current Tory leader is in difficulty but his leadership is far from derelict. He still has reserves of support in the country, a ruthless streak and infinite pride. Two axioms stand out from any study of Johnson’s career: first, he must never be underestimated. Second, his greatest skill is getting out of the scrapes that his lack of judgment gets him into. Put those together and you arrive at the forecast that he will be a terrible prime minister who is good at clinging to power. He will leave no legacy to inherit, only a mess to clear up.
There can be no continuity in Johnsonism. It is an episode, a convulsion, a one-off. The next prime minister, even if it is another Tory, must run as an antidote to the current one. That is hard for someone who has helped cook and serve the noxious brew. Sunak has less time than he thinks. He has to decide how long to be part of the Tories’ Johnson problem before somehow offering himself as their solution
Biden was the best candidate for the Democrats to win the rustbelt they have to take to win the EC and he is of an age and centrist enough to appeal to boomers in Florida too, however while he will pick up maybe 1 or 2 rustbelt states, probably at least PA where he was raised and helped by Philadelphia he needs to win all 3 of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania or 2 of them plus either Arizona or Florida to win the EC and that is still debateable in my view
HYUFD, do you REALLY think it does NOT matter to the future of American democracy AND the world, if someone openly opining about the assassination of his challenger is re-elected President of the United States?
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
FPT: Hm. Suppose you're trying to work out how much someone weighs. Do you go with a set of scales, however imprecise, or a thermometer?
I might set some of my Y13s that question: how do measure someone’s mass with a thermometer? I can think of three ways off the top of my head...
long lever / moment of force throw it at someone floating in space / kinetic energy calculation hmmm, struggling for a third
I would have gone with conservation of momentum for your second one, and that was not one of the three I had in mind. If you are in space measure the value of g from the person would do it.
One I was thinking of was to supply a know amount of heat to them and see how much their temperature changes. Then I had your first one.
Another is to offer to give them the thermometer if they will tell you their weight ...
At every age, women are more likely than thein men-folk to go for Biden over Trump. At every education level, ditto.
Now, young women may be more anti-Trump than older ones, but that doesn't affect the point that the higher the proportion of women voters there are (currently 56%), the harder it is for the President to get re-elected.
To be fair, PPP is a Democratic polling firm. Other polls in Montana have shown a much larger Trump lead there. It is entirely possible that PPP are also selectively releasing polling that favours a narrative that they think favours their cause. In this case to encourage their supporters to go to the polls by believing that the Democrats are in with a shout. Even if they don't need Montana for the White House, there is a tight Senate race there, so Dems going to the polls in Montana does matter a lot in terms of the prospects of the Dems controlling the Senate.
I suggest that it's best at this point to discount all polling by conducted by companies that either have links to the respective parties (the likes of PPP, Trafalgar, Rasmussen) or which was commissioned by organisations which are strongly campaigning for either side.
I think this is spot on: this is a poll designed to get Democrats to the poll to vote for Bullock under the mistaken impression that Montana might tip at the General.
FPT: Hm. Suppose you're trying to work out how much someone weighs. Do you go with a set of scales, however imprecise, or a thermometer?
I might set some of my Y13s that question: how do measure someone’s mass with a thermometer? I can think of three ways off the top of my head...
long lever / moment of force throw it at someone floating in space / kinetic energy calculation hmmm, struggling for a third
I would have gone with conservation of momentum for your second one, and that was not one of the three I had in mind. If you are in space measure the value of g from the person would do it.
One I was thinking of was to supply a know amount of heat to them and see how much their temperature changes. Then I had your first one.
Another is to offer to give them the thermometer if they will tell you their weight ...
Bomb calorimetry?
Stick it in their middle, kill 'em and measure the time taken to return to RT?
I always wonder. Are Trump rallies totally unscripted, or does he just go totally off-piste in the middle of his autocue speech?
Totally unscripted, unfettered, unregulated AND un-house-broken
As ad-libbed works of fiction, on the entertainment front they are quite good. Better than plenty of improv comedy i have seen over the years.
Dreaming out loud about your opponent being assassinated - in a country where FOUR presidents have been killed in just this manner, and five others have been targeted by would-be assassin - is WAY beyond the pale, even for a total piece of scum like Trumpsky.
AND if YOU find it funny in this context, then I question just where your head is at?
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
FPT: Hm. Suppose you're trying to work out how much someone weighs. Do you go with a set of scales, however imprecise, or a thermometer?
I might set some of my Y13s that question: how do measure someone’s mass with a thermometer? I can think of three ways off the top of my head...
long lever / moment of force throw it at someone floating in space / kinetic energy calculation hmmm, struggling for a third
I would have gone with conservation of momentum for your second one, and that was not one of the three I had in mind. If you are in space measure the value of g from the person would do it.
One I was thinking of was to supply a know amount of heat to them and see how much their temperature changes. Then I had your first one.
Another is to offer to give them the thermometer if they will tell you their weight ...
Ah yes, the same as the old barometer / building height. Bribe the owner to tell you. Can't believe I forgot that one.
Not sure how you propose to measure g with a thermometer though. EDIT oh you mean between the person and the thermometer. I thought you meant earth g, no wonder I was confused. Good one.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
There are things you shouldn't joke about at certain times in certain places that could lead to people for instance drinking bleach or inciting violence.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
There are things you shouldn't joke about at certain times in certain places that could lead to people for instance drinking bleach or inciting violence.
Well if you drink bleach first you're unlikely to commit any violence.
FPT: Hm. Suppose you're trying to work out how much someone weighs. Do you go with a set of scales, however imprecise, or a thermometer?
I might set some of my Y13s that question: how do measure someone’s mass with a thermometer? I can think of three ways off the top of my head...
long lever / moment of force throw it at someone floating in space / kinetic energy calculation hmmm, struggling for a third
I would have gone with conservation of momentum for your second one, and that was not one of the three I had in mind. If you are in space measure the value of g from the person would do it.
One I was thinking of was to supply a know amount of heat to them and see how much their temperature changes. Then I had your first one.
Another is to offer to give them the thermometer if they will tell you their weight ...
Bomb calorimetry?
Stick it in their middle, kill 'em and measure the time taken to return to RT?
If you're allowed a spring as well, you could have the person bounce off the spring, and measure how much the spring heats up. What's that called, Young's modulus?
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Maybe some Brits have such strong belief in the Shy Trumpskite vote, because they are afraid to let their neighbours know they are backing him, either as supporters OR bettors?
If you believe Nate Silver and the polls, then you definitely should be backing Biden at 5/6. It's a steal if the polls are right.
If...
It is a steal.
When can you think of a national election where the polls have been more than four points wrong in recent times?
2019 UK - basically right 2018 Midterms - basically right, maybe Dems very slightly underrated 2017 UK - Labour did three points better 2017 France - Macron outperformed by 1%, Le Pen underperformed by 1% 2016 - Brexit - Polls were four points out 2016 US - Polls were one point out 2012 US - Polls were three points out 2008 US - Polls were basically right
HYUFD, do you REALLY think it does NOT matter to the future of American democracy AND the world, if someone openly opining about the assassination of his challenger is re-elected President of the United States?
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
As you have just pointed out Presidents do die in office and some have been shot unfortunately, it may be in poor taste but he did not say he hoped Biden was shot he said Harris would become President if he was and, his target was actually Harris and her leftwing record not Biden
I always wonder. Are Trump rallies totally unscripted, or does he just go totally off-piste in the middle of his autocue speech?
Totally unscripted, unfettered, unregulated AND un-house-broken
As ad-libbed works of fiction, on the entertainment front they are quite good. Better than plenty of improv comedy i have seen over the years.
Dreaming out loud about your opponent being assassinated - in a country where FOUR presidents have been killed in just this manner, and five others have been targeted by would-be assassin - is WAY beyond the pale, even for a total piece of scum like Trumpsky.
AND if YOU find it funny in this context, then I question just where your head is at?
I wasn't talking about that specific statement. I meant in general I view his rally speeches as these comical ad-libbed stream of BS that is on the level of the absurdity of the likes of Comedy Store Players.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
As I said, this is what Swiss officials were quietly relaying some time ago, to their population-in-denial. The 2nd wave is going to be longer, nastier, and deathlier. BRACE
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
So one Trump supporter said something bad 4 years ago, so we should all get offended by this now. Ok.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
HYUFD, do you REALLY think it does NOT matter to the future of American democracy AND the world, if someone openly opining about the assassination of his challenger is re-elected President of the United States?
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
2BpickyZfck, he is talking about the 25th amendment which does clarify in passing what happens when the president dies but is mainly about incapacitation, so by implication he means shot but not killed.
As an aside, I'm glad my business is in Arizona. During summer, the virus is rampant as everyone is inside, and during winter they can barbeque and eat outside and the virus recedes.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
I always wonder. Are Trump rallies totally unscripted, or does he just go totally off-piste in the middle of his autocue speech?
He know's what he is doing; President Kamala, the most liberal-voting senator, is going down like a cup of cold sick in the swing states.
Your evidence for this?
Besides fact that the number of Americans who vote for President based on their running mate has NEVER been large.
Fact that Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle were national jokes did NOT stop Nixon from being re-elected OR Bush the Elder from being elected (his defeat for re-election NOT being due to DQ).
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
So one Trump supporter said something bad 4 years ago, so we should all get offended by this now. Ok.
Nope, just 'he's clearly joking' is one of the most pishily meretricious defences going.
HYUFD, do you REALLY think it does NOT matter to the future of American democracy AND the world, if someone openly opining about the assassination of his challenger is re-elected President of the United States?
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
2BpickyZfck, he is talking about the 25th amendment which does clarify in passing what happens when the president dies but is mainly about incapacitation, so by implication he means shot but not killed.
HYUFD, do you REALLY think it does NOT matter to the future of American democracy AND the world, if someone openly opining about the assassination of his challenger is re-elected President of the United States?
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
2BpickyZfck, he is talking about the 25th amendment which does clarify in passing what happens when the president dies but is mainly about incapacitation, so by implication he means shot but not killed.
Reagan was shot and Bush Snr took over briefly while he was in hospital
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
There are things you shouldn't joke about at certain times in certain places that could lead to people for instance drinking bleach or inciting violence.
Well if you drink bleach first you're unlikely to commit any violence.
You are relying there on the people he influences to do these things being complete idiots and not just half wits.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
And very likely 'fuck 2021' as well.
Badminton Horse Trials said today that next year's event (5-9 May) will be behind closed doors. I had a lot of hope pinned on that being the first return to normal thing that was going to happen.
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
So one Trump supporter said something bad 4 years ago, so we should all get offended by this now. Ok.
Nope, just 'he's clearly joking' is one of the most pishily meretricious defences going.
His point was that Biden might not last the term and if that happens then Harris would become president.
There was no way of him saying that without the terminally offended complaining about it.
If he'd said Biden is old and likely to drop dead at any moment (which looks pretty likely judging from recent footage), people would be pretending to get offended by that instead.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
As I said, this is what Swiss officials were quietly relaying some time ago, to their population-in-denial. The 2nd wave is going to be longer, nastier, and deathlier. BRACE
It would be good to have an explanation instead of ex-cathedra pronouncements.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
To be fair, PPP is a Democratic polling firm. Other polls in Montana have shown a much larger Trump lead there. It is entirely possible that PPP are also selectively releasing polling that favours a narrative that they think favours their cause. In this case to encourage their supporters to go to the polls by believing that the Democrats are in with a shout. Even if they don't need Montana for the White House, there is a tight Senate race there, so Dems going to the polls in Montana does matter a lot in terms of the prospects of the Dems controlling the Senate.
I suggest that it's best at this point to discount all polling by conducted by companies that either have links to the respective parties (the likes of PPP, Trafalgar, Rasmussen) or which was commissioned by organisations which are strongly campaigning for either side.
I think this is spot on: this is a poll designed to get Democrats to the poll to vote for Bullock under the mistaken impression that Montana might tip at the General.
I will not take this scurilous reframing of of Biden's Montana surge lying down.
This is real hard evidence of Biden taking Montana for 100% certain and the money I placed on him doing so at 12/1 has nothing to do with my prognostications.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
And very likely 'fuck 2021' as well.
Badminton Horse Trials said today that next year's event (5-9 May) will be behind closed doors. I had a lot of hope pinned on that being the first return to normal thing that was going to happen.
There go the planned elections as well. I'm still expecting them to at least defer the scheduled 2021 ones and just do the delayed 2020 ones.
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
As I said, this is what Swiss officials were quietly relaying some time ago, to their population-in-denial. The 2nd wave is going to be longer, nastier, and deathlier. BRACE
It would be good to have an explanation instead of ex-cathedra pronouncements.
Don't hold your breath. The "model says" is about as explanatory as we little people are going to get.
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
So one Trump supporter said something bad 4 years ago, so we should all get offended by this now. Ok.
Nope, just 'he's clearly joking' is one of the most pishily meretricious defences going.
His point was that Biden might not last the term and if that happens then Harris would become president.
There was no way of him saying that without the terminally offended complaining about it.
If he'd said Biden is old and likely to drop dead at any moment (which looks pretty likely judging from recent footage), people would be pretending to get offended by that instead.
Can you point to where Trump has merrily speculated about his own death. Surely just as relevant, since he's the other main candidate, and a fat, wheezing bag of shit?
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Downing Street is privately working on the assumption that the second wave of coronavirus will be more deadly than the first, with the death toll remaining high throughout the winter.
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
Great. As we're past the watershed, I'll simply 'Fuck this year'.
And very likely 'fuck 2021' as well.
Badminton Horse Trials said today that next year's event (5-9 May) will be behind closed doors. I had a lot of hope pinned on that being the first return to normal thing that was going to happen.
There go the planned elections as well. I'm still expecting them to at least defer the scheduled 2021 ones and just do the delayed 2020 ones.
Surely with month's still to go they've got time to put in place 100% postal vote elections, if necessary haven't they? Not that i see why it should be necessary. Or are they claiming that campaigning difficulty is the problem?
Although they could obviously have them in July or august without too much difficulty, even if things in general don't improve.
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I suggest that it's best at this point to discount all polling by conducted by companies that either have links to the respective parties (the likes of PPP, Trafalgar, Rasmussen) or which was commissioned by organisations which are strongly campaigning for either side.
https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1321197162873688065?s=19
https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1321175998319177730?s=20
Counting chickens.
Unless of course you are a chic young lady (such as LadyG?) with a stylish face mask.
And, I figure that if Trump wins then the last thing I will be worrying about is my lost money.
The current Tory leader is in difficulty but his leadership is far from derelict. He still has reserves of support in the country, a ruthless streak and infinite pride. Two axioms stand out from any study of Johnson’s career: first, he must never be underestimated. Second, his greatest skill is getting out of the scrapes that his lack of judgment gets him into. Put those together and you arrive at the forecast that he will be a terrible prime minister who is good at clinging to power. He will leave no legacy to inherit, only a mess to clear up.
There can be no continuity in Johnsonism. It is an episode, a convulsion, a one-off. The next prime minister, even if it is another Tory, must run as an antidote to the current one. That is hard for someone who has helped cook and serve the noxious brew. Sunak has less time than he thinks. He has to decide how long to be part of the Tories’ Johnson problem before somehow offering himself as their solution
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/27/rishi-sunak-ambition-collision-course-boris-johnson-ego-tory-party
If...
Keep up the good work, Trumpsky!
Cannot wait to find out how THIS pans out in the next Trafalgar "poll"
"If your neighbor knew that Joe Biden was recklessly making himself a target by his very existence . . ."
Hm. Suppose you're trying to work out how much someone weighs. Do you go with a set of scales, however imprecise, or a thermometer?
I might set some of my Y13s that question: how do measure someone’s mass with a thermometer? I can think of three ways off the top of my head...
throw it at someone floating in space / kinetic energy calculation
hmmm, struggling for a third
IF you REALLY do think that, then buddy, I am VERY sorry for you.
It is all dependent on when the market settles.
If you are in space measure the value of g from the person would do it.
One I was thinking of was to supply a know amount of heat to them and see how much their temperature changes.
Then I had your first one.
Another is to offer to give them the thermometer if they will tell you their weight ...
At every age, women are more likely than thein men-folk to go for Biden over Trump. At every education level, ditto.
Now, young women may be more anti-Trump than older ones, but that doesn't affect the point that the higher the proportion of women voters there are (currently 56%), the harder it is for the President to get re-elected.
Stick it in their middle, kill 'em and measure the time taken to return to RT?
AND if YOU find it funny in this context, then I question just where your head is at?
An internal analysis of the projected course of the second wave is understood to show deaths peaking at a lower level than in the spring but remaining at that level for weeks or even months.
It is understood that the projection – provided by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has led to intense lobbying from Sir Patrick Vallance and other Government advisers for Boris Johnson to take more drastic action.
"It's going to be worse this time, more deaths," said one well-placed source. "That is the projection that has been put in front of the Prime Minister, and he is now being put under a lot of pressure to lock down again."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/27/second-covid-wave-forecast-deadly-first/
Not sure how you propose to measure g with a thermometer though.
EDIT oh you mean between the person and the thermometer. I thought you meant earth g, no wonder I was confused. Good one.
When can you think of a national election where the polls have been more than four points wrong in recent times?
2019 UK - basically right
2018 Midterms - basically right, maybe Dems very slightly underrated
2017 UK - Labour did three points better
2017 France - Macron outperformed by 1%, Le Pen underperformed by 1%
2016 - Brexit - Polls were four points out
2016 US - Polls were one point out
2012 US - Polls were three points out
2008 US - Polls were basically right
Trumpsky is the joke - a VERY VERY VERY BAD ONE
Dunno if you were around in 2016 but there was a guy who claimed that a Trump supporting state official who described Michelle Obama as an 'ape in high heels' was only joking.
--AS
Besides fact that the number of Americans who vote for President based on their running mate has NEVER been large.
Fact that Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle were national jokes did NOT stop Nixon from being re-elected OR Bush the Elder from being elected (his defeat for re-election NOT being due to DQ).
Can someone recommend me some decent running shoes, my normal Nikes just can't cope.
I've turned into Forrest Gump since lockdown.
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1321213111874031617
There was no way of him saying that without the terminally offended complaining about it.
If he'd said Biden is old and likely to drop dead at any moment (which looks pretty likely judging from recent footage), people would be pretending to get offended by that instead.
This is real hard evidence of Biden taking Montana for 100% certain and the money I placed on him doing so at 12/1 has nothing to do with my prognostications.
https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1321208404896030720
Although they could obviously have them in July or august without too much difficulty, even if things in general don't improve.
Already voted
Trump 36
Biden 83
Others 4
(Total 127)
5.2 million had voted at the start of the fieldwork, 6 million by the end date.
Remaining 2 party voters split 156 Trump / 92 Biden
Total 253
There's simply not that many voters left !