A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
Hodges seems to be developing a soft spot for Johnson.
Boris was initially tongue-tied v Angela and seemed to want to avoid confrontation but as PMQs progressed has become more assured
I am convinced he has been very badly affected by covid and it can be seen in his manner and slow responses
I haven't heard it so I can't comment. My only take away is Rayner's Cummings gag might make tonight's news.
I find it difficult to feel any empathy with Johnson. He has seldom been empathetic to others.
Tbh I thought Rayner's opening gag -- reading a message she received from a man called Keir -- was better than the Cummings one. It was witty, topical and raised issues around testing. The Cummings jibe could have been written weeks ago, and probably was.
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
So in terms of actual tests which Country does more?
Maybe none in Europe. However, we're being trounced by India and the US (and even beaten by Russia!) When comparing things in populations of different sizes it's often useful to normalise to population size.
(numbers of tests, even population normalised is probably not a great measure anyway - you could do lots of tests without much benefit if poorly targeted; if you've got good control on COVID-19 by other means/excellent tracing then doing lots of tests is less important too)
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
I'm astonished to learn that nobody in the government thought that reopening the schools and the wider economy would result in a higher demand for tests.
"You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
"They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
"Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
Congratulations, that is one (two?) of the best posts I have ever read on this Site. You identify exactly the attraction of Trump and the motivation of his base. I've appreciated this for a long time and have had it confirmed repeatedly by a friend living in Florida, an exPat Brit and rabid Trump supporter. His animosity towards liberals, students, racial minorities knows no bounds. Whatever facts are presented to him are dismissed out of hand and replaced with fictions or dismissed as irrelevant.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
Exactly. All this stuff about "kicking back against globalization" we keep hearing about - it's bollocks. The Trump base are a bunch of dumb and nasty fucks. If globalization truly has fucked them over, it's three cheers for globalization and you have my express permission to keep doing it.
Cheating and murdering indigenous folk for 400 years.
Good to see Scottish nationalists want to attack Americans in this way, should ensure there will be no great reception for Sturgeon in Washington as there is for Martin
If you can restrict your interactions enough with other people you probably won't get a cold.
This is an interesting question to me - on the one hand, there should have been less spread of all infectious diseases this year, which one might imagine would put downwards pressure on the normal back to school/uni freshers' flu etc. On the other hand, due to the lowered interactions, people will have been exposed to fewer, so there may be a greater susceptible pool to whatever is doing the rounds. So do we get more or fewer colds etc than normal. Or is all that backgound noise compared to weather conditions etc? There's a PhD or few in these kinds of questions over the coming years...
Cheating and murdering indigenous folk for 400 years.
Good to see Scottish nationalists want to attack Americans in this way, should ensure there will be no great reception for Sturgeon in Washington as there is for Martin
News fer ya, I'm as an irrelevant little pipsqueak in regard to UK-US relations as you are.
Didn't watch PMQs but I assume by the reaction may Boris was once again insipid. I get the feeling that Boris won't allow anyone else to take PMQs because it will show Tory MPs what they are missing out on. Raab hasn't been terrible at it and by the end of the covid press conferences he was looking and sounding fairly confident under questioning. I wouldn't rate him as a leader but there is no doubt he'd be better than Boris and he'd also be acceptable to core leavers who want a FTA brexit rather than any kind of close ongoing alignment to the EU such as EEA or EFTA.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
Under Starmer Labour have been selective in demanding resignation, preferring to leave beleaguered ministers twisting in the wind for a few days - so either Falconer is freelancing or they reckon he’s gone already.
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
I'm astonished to learn that nobody in the government thought that reopening the schools and the wider economy would result in a higher demand for tests.
Indeed. Harding should have been sacked yesterday and we should get the consultants from Deloitte back, even if they cost a lot of money. They did a great job of scale up from 0 to 200k in a few months, since Harding has taken over we've gone from 200k to 250k in two months. She's a disaster.
Under Starmer Labour have been selective in demanding resignation, preferring to leave beleaguered ministers twisting in the wind for a few days - so either Falconer is freelancing or they reckon he’s gone already.
Hodges seems to be developing a soft spot for Johnson.
Boris was initially tongue-tied v Angela and seemed to want to avoid confrontation but as PMQs progressed has become more assured
I am convinced he has been very badly affected by covid and it can be seen in his manner and slow responses
I haven't heard it so I can't comment. My only take away is Rayner's Cummings gag might make tonight's news.
I find it difficult to feel any empathy with Johnson. He has seldom been empathetic to others.
Tbh I thought Rayner's opening gag -- reading a message she received from a man called Keir -- was better than the Cummings one. It was witty, topical and raised issues around testing. The Cummings jibe could have been written weeks ago, and probably was.
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
That is exactly the kind of case where pooled testing would be very effective. It's very odd indeed (or just a mark of this administrations abject lack of initiative) that they didn't use the quieter summer period to set up protocols for that.
"You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
"They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
"Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
Congratulations, that is one (two?) of the best posts I have ever read on this Site. You identify exactly the attraction of Trump and the motivation of his base. I've appreciated this for a long time and have had it confirmed repeatedly by a friend living in Florida, an exPat Brit and rabid Trump supporter. His animosity towards liberals, students, racial minorities knows no bounds. Whatever facts are presented to him are dismissed out of hand and replaced with fictions or dismissed as irrelevant.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
Exactly. All this stuff about "kicking back against globalization" we keep hearing about - it's bollocks. The Trump base are a bunch of dumb and nasty fucks. If globalization truly has fucked them over, it's three cheers for globalization and you have my express permission to keep doing it.
"You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
"They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
"Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
Congratulations, that is one (two?) of the best posts I have ever read on this Site. You identify exactly the attraction of Trump and the motivation of his base. I've appreciated this for a long time and have had it confirmed repeatedly by a friend living in Florida, an exPat Brit and rabid Trump supporter. His animosity towards liberals, students, racial minorities knows no bounds. Whatever facts are presented to him are dismissed out of hand and replaced with fictions or dismissed as irrelevant.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
Exactly. All this stuff about "kicking back against globalization" we keep hearing about - it's bollocks. The Trump base are a bunch of dumb and nasty fucks. If globalization truly has fucked them over, it's three cheers for globalization and you have my express permission to keep doing it.
Marx: "I am a socialist not because I love the poor, but because I hate them."
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
That is exactly the kind of case where pooled testing would be very effective. It's very odd indeed (or just a mark of this administrations abject lack of initiative) that they didn't use the quieter summer period to set up protocols for that.
Pillar 1 uses pooled testing, but it makes sense there as you can batch departments and shifts.
Didn't watch PMQs but I assume by the reaction may Boris was once again insipid. I get the feeling that Boris won't allow anyone else to take PMQs because it will show Tory MPs what they are missing out on. Raab hasn't been terrible at it and by the end of the covid press conferences he was looking and sounding fairly confident under questioning. I wouldn't rate him as a leader but there is no doubt he'd be better than Boris and he'd also be acceptable to core leavers who want a FTA brexit rather than any kind of close ongoing alignment to the EU such as EEA or EFTA.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
I rate Raab highly. Don't agree with his views as he has stated them but he is def an operator.
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
I'm astonished to learn that nobody in the government thought that reopening the schools and the wider economy would result in a higher demand for tests.
Indeed. Harding should have been sacked yesterday and we should get the consultants from Deloitte back, even if they cost a lot of money. They did a great job of scale up from 0 to 200k in a few months, since Harding has taken over we've gone from 200k to 250k in two months. She's a disaster.
There's always the possibility that the Deloitte consultants created a system that could get to 200k but was impossible to push further.
If you can restrict your interactions enough with other people you probably won't get a cold.
This is an interesting question to me - on the one hand, there should have been less spread of all infectious diseases this year, which one might imagine would put downwards pressure on the normal back to school/uni freshers' flu etc. On the other hand, due to the lowered interactions, people will have been exposed to fewer, so there may be a greater susceptible pool to whatever is doing the rounds. So do we get more or fewer colds etc than normal. Or is all that backgound noise compared to weather conditions etc? There's a PhD or few in these kinds of questions over the coming years...
The Australian experience was that their flu season got crushed by social distancing measures. While rhinovirus cold infections were for some reason remarkably resilient. (As I understand it, & FWIW)
A primary school has been forced to close to every year group following an outbreak of coronavirus.
The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
I'm astonished to learn that nobody in the government thought that reopening the schools and the wider economy would result in a higher demand for tests.
Indeed. Harding should have been sacked yesterday and we should get the consultants from Deloitte back, even if they cost a lot of money. They did a great job of scale up from 0 to 200k in a few months, since Harding has taken over we've gone from 200k to 250k in two months. She's a disaster.
There's always the possibility that the Deloitte consultants created a system that could get to 200k but was impossible to push further.
Aiui their remit was the scale to 400k by October but they got sent back to their day jobs in mid July when the test system got merged wit track and trace to become test and trace. I have little doubt that had they been kept on we'd be nearing 300-325k in PCR capacity. Harding and the PHE team just don't seem up to the task.
One thing the Gov't should/could do at this point is a big "cover your nose" campaign with masks. Too many nostrils peaking out over the top. Wouldn't be a hard or expensive step.
"You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
"They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
"Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
Congratulations, that is one (two?) of the best posts I have ever read on this Site. You identify exactly the attraction of Trump and the motivation of his base. I've appreciated this for a long time and have had it confirmed repeatedly by a friend living in Florida, an exPat Brit and rabid Trump supporter. His animosity towards liberals, students, racial minorities knows no bounds. Whatever facts are presented to him are dismissed out of hand and replaced with fictions or dismissed as irrelevant.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
Exactly. All this stuff about "kicking back against globalization" we keep hearing about - it's bollocks. The Trump base are a bunch of dumb and nasty fucks. If globalization truly has fucked them over, it's three cheers for globalization and you have my express permission to keep doing it.
Marx: "I am a socialist not because I love the poor, but because I hate them."
Eradication of the poor by improvement rather than malnutrition sounds good to me.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
If you can restrict your interactions enough with other people you probably won't get a cold.
This is an interesting question to me - on the one hand, there should have been less spread of all infectious diseases this year, which one might imagine would put downwards pressure on the normal back to school/uni freshers' flu etc. On the other hand, due to the lowered interactions, people will have been exposed to fewer, so there may be a greater susceptible pool to whatever is doing the rounds. So do we get more or fewer colds etc than normal. Or is all that backgound noise compared to weather conditions etc? There's a PhD or few in these kinds of questions over the coming years...
The Australian experience was that their flu season got crushed by social distancing measures. While rhinovirus cold infections were for some reason remarkably resilient. (As I understand it, & FWIW)
Rhinovirus colds are very non-debilitating whereas flu knocks most people for six. Also rhinovirus colds spread by sneezes which project to pretty much the whole room aiui ? I think covid transmisibility is somewhere between common colds and the flu. Are coronavirus colds (Not covid19) difficult to transmit ?
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
Since you voted Remain HYUFD I can understand why you might think Brexit is a joke and like Trump.
I do not think it is a joke or a comedy routine. We don't need Trump, we need Britain taken seriously as a sovereign equal on the world stage with serious actors like Biden.
One thing the Gov't should/could do at this point is a big "cover your nose" campaign with masks. Too many nostrils peaking out over the top. Wouldn't be a hard or expensive step.
How important it this though? The larger, more dangerous, dose is via droplets (mouth). Sneezing is not a symptom of the virus. Seems to me that the mouth is by far the most important organ to mask.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
Oh dear, another "ancestral dislike of the British Empire" moment in BJ Britain.
Under Starmer Labour have been selective in demanding resignation, preferring to leave beleaguered ministers twisting in the wind for a few days - so either Falconer is freelancing or they reckon he’s gone already.
Falconer is something of an expert on the resignation game.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
I can't believe at the same time the government are telling people no birthday parties for little johnny, having 1000 people at a football match is ok.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
Didn't watch PMQs but I assume by the reaction may Boris was once again insipid. I get the feeling that Boris won't allow anyone else to take PMQs because it will show Tory MPs what they are missing out on. Raab hasn't been terrible at it and by the end of the covid press conferences he was looking and sounding fairly confident under questioning. I wouldn't rate him as a leader but there is no doubt he'd be better than Boris and he'd also be acceptable to core leavers who want a FTA brexit rather than any kind of close ongoing alignment to the EU such as EEA or EFTA.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
I rate Raab highly. Don't agree with his views as he has stated them but he is def an operator.
Raab has cleverly kept out of COVID. You never see him on TV explaining the latest lockdown measure or testing fiasco. Its partly his role that distances him from home affairs, of course, but he's also been pretty quiet.
Next year I reckon the tories will be looking to sweep away the horrible wretchedness of 2020. A big beast safe pair of hands genuine tory.
Raab fits the bill. Especially if he is up against Starmer. Two peas in a pod. Charisma free lawyer vs charisma free lawyer.
Didn't watch PMQs but I assume by the reaction may Boris was once again insipid. I get the feeling that Boris won't allow anyone else to take PMQs because it will show Tory MPs what they are missing out on. Raab hasn't been terrible at it and by the end of the covid press conferences he was looking and sounding fairly confident under questioning. I wouldn't rate him as a leader but there is no doubt he'd be better than Boris and he'd also be acceptable to core leavers who want a FTA brexit rather than any kind of close ongoing alignment to the EU such as EEA or EFTA.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
I rate Raab highly. Don't agree with his views as he has stated them but he is def an operator.
Raab has cleverly kept out of COVID. You never see him on TV explaining the latest lockdown measure or testing fiasco. Its partly his role that distances him from home affairs, of course, but he's also been pretty quiet.
Next year I reckon the tories will be looking to sweep away the horrible wretchedness of 2020. A big beast safe pair of hands genuine tory.
Raab fits the bill. Especially if he is up against Starmer. Two peas in a pod. Charisma free lawyer vs charisma free lawyer.
Foreign Secretary is the ideal role for a Brexiteer to experience a Road to Damascus moment.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
Since you voted Remain HYUFD I can understand why you might think Brexit is a joke and like Trump.
I do not think it is a joke or a comedy routine. We don't need Trump, we need Britain taken seriously as a sovereign equal on the world stage with serious actors like Biden.
Yes I did vote Remain, partly because I believed it was important to stay close to Europe and America.
However I also respect the Brexit vote and like it or not Trump backed Brexit and if we burn all bridges with the EU as now seems likely and go to tariffs with our largest trading partner following that with a poor relationship with our second largest trading partner will not be a good idead.
Biden will ignore Britain and focus on the EU and Dublin if the internal markets bill becomes law, your Biden love affair is fine but be aware a Biden Presidency and a Pelosi led Congress will not give a toss about post Brexit Britain, certainly unless we shift to an EEA relationship with the EU
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
Oh dear, another "ancestral dislike of the British Empire" moment in BJ Britain.
Its amazing how people can simultaneously believe that the British Empire was a benign force for good in the world and that people whose ancestors were subjects of the Empire must all hate us for it.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
You're still not thinking more than one step ahead.
If the Internal Markets Bill goes through, transition ends with WTO and Biden becomes President then what happens next?
Do you think the world ends then with no more steps taken by anybody?
Or might Ireland, the EU and America still want a deal to be reached that can resolve the Irish border issues?
I can't believe at the same time the government are telling people no birthday parties for little johnny, having 1000 people at a football match is ok.
Didn't watch PMQs but I assume by the reaction may Boris was once again insipid. I get the feeling that Boris won't allow anyone else to take PMQs because it will show Tory MPs what they are missing out on. Raab hasn't been terrible at it and by the end of the covid press conferences he was looking and sounding fairly confident under questioning. I wouldn't rate him as a leader but there is no doubt he'd be better than Boris and he'd also be acceptable to core leavers who want a FTA brexit rather than any kind of close ongoing alignment to the EU such as EEA or EFTA.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
I rate Raab highly. Don't agree with his views as he has stated them but he is def an operator.
Raab has cleverly kept out of COVID. You never see him on TV explaining the latest lockdown measure or testing fiasco. Its partly his role that distances him from home affairs, of course, but he's also been pretty quiet.
Next year I reckon the tories will be looking to sweep away the horrible wretchedness of 2020. A big beast safe pair of hands genuine tory.
Raab fits the bill. Especially if he is up against Starmer. Two peas in a pod. Charisma free lawyer vs charisma free lawyer.
Gove is the Cummings and Murdoch candidate so surely must have a shot.
"84% of French office workers are back at their desks, but less than 40% of British ones are".
When was that survey taken, as absolutely no chance that was true in August....In France lucky to find anybody at their desk in August.
Must be the start of September for the reason you give. Doesn't actually say in the article but the Economist is usually reliable on facts of this type.
I can't believe at the same time the government are telling people no birthday parties for little johnny, having 1000 people at a football match is ok.
What are they doing now ?
In the summer, they organized with the football league to pilot games with fans at the start of the new season, with the idea 1000 say in September, working towards expanding over the months.
Now obviously cases are rising and the government are telling us to minimize contacts, but rather than pause this pilot, they have given the go ahead, starting this weekend.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
You're still not thinking more than one step ahead.
If the Internal Markets Bill goes through, transition ends with WTO and Biden becomes President then what happens next?
Do you think the world ends then with no more steps taken by anybody?
Or might Ireland, the EU and America still want a deal to be reached that can resolve the Irish border issues?
If the internal markets bill goes through then zero chance of any trade deal with the EU or American as there will be no border in the Irish Sea which they see, admittedly wrongly, as ripping up the GFA.
We will in Obama's own words literally be 'at the back of the queue' and irrelevant to a Biden administration
Though after South Korea, Italy and Japan Trump's US gets its highest rating from a western nation from the UK
Reflects high prior rating. The number for the UK has fallen at least as much as for any other country shown. In other words, Trump has damaged the US's reputation more in the UK (Germany shows the same magnitude of fall - interesting he seems to have repulsed the countries of origin of his ancestors more than anyone else).
"84% of French office workers are back at their desks, but less than 40% of British ones are".
I will get shouted at for saying this but the majority of Council workers are not back at their desks. Frontline workers are working normally, bin collectors etc, but those who do non-essential type work are working from home on full pay. I will give an example of what working from home means, I attended a walk round this morning for a job changing all the lights on the floor of a Council office block. The building was empty. The electrical engineer who hosted the walkround said that this morning was the first work he had done since the end of March. He said there were hundreds of people like him at his Council whose job had been put on hold during Covid outbreak. He does not expect to do any further work until the new year.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
You're still not thinking more than one step ahead.
If the Internal Markets Bill goes through, transition ends with WTO and Biden becomes President then what happens next?
Do you think the world ends then with no more steps taken by anybody?
Or might Ireland, the EU and America still want a deal to be reached that can resolve the Irish border issues?
If the internal markets bill goes through then zero chance of any trade deal with the EU or American as there will be no border in the Irish Sea which they see, admittedly wrongly, as ripping up the GFA.
We will in Obama's own words literally be 'at the back of the queue' and irrelevant to a Biden administration
If the IM Bill goes through and 'the GFA is ripped up' then what happens next? You're still not answering.
Are the EU going to be happy to leave matters like that? Or are they going to want a solution to the Irish issue?
The 10-day ECMWF forecast has Hurricane Teddy making landfall somewhere around Nova Scotia, at about the same time undergoing extra-tropical transition and heading east to hit Ireland and Scotland on Friday week.
Though after South Korea, Italy and Japan Trump's US gets its highest rating from a western nation from the UK
Reflects high prior rating. The number for the UK has fallen at least as much as for any other country shown. In other words, Trump has damaged the US's reputation more in the UK (Germany shows the same magnitude of fall - interesting he seems to have repulsed the countries of origin of his ancestors more than anyone else).
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20 'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I'd be much happier with a Biden Presidency and no trade deal than one negotiated with President Trump.
Fine but be prepared as I said earlier for Britain to be more isolated from Europe and America than it has been at any time since the American Revolution if a No Deal Brexit is followed by a Biden Presidency and a continued Pelosi Speakership
You're still not thinking more than one step ahead.
If the Internal Markets Bill goes through, transition ends with WTO and Biden becomes President then what happens next?
Do you think the world ends then with no more steps taken by anybody?
Or might Ireland, the EU and America still want a deal to be reached that can resolve the Irish border issues?
If the internal markets bill goes through then zero chance of any trade deal with the EU or American as there will be no border in the Irish Sea which they see, admittedly wrongly, as ripping up the GFA.
We will in Obama's own words literally be 'at the back of the queue' and irrelevant to a Biden administration
If the IM Bill goes through and 'the GFA is ripped up' then what happens next? You're still not answering.
Are the EU going to be happy to leave matters like that? Or are they going to want a solution to the Irish issue?
What happens next? Tariffs on all GB (though not NI) exports to the EU and vice versa until we agree to rejoin the EEA that is what.
The thing with this shit is not only the political slant, but it aint funny.
Mark Thomas is a very left wing, but he can actually tell a funny tale and has a self deprecating manner about individuals involved in the movements he has been involved with.
"You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
"They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
"Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
Congratulations, that is one (two?) of the best posts I have ever read on this Site. You identify exactly the attraction of Trump and the motivation of his base. I've appreciated this for a long time and have had it confirmed repeatedly by a friend living in Florida, an exPat Brit and rabid Trump supporter. His animosity towards liberals, students, racial minorities knows no bounds. Whatever facts are presented to him are dismissed out of hand and replaced with fictions or dismissed as irrelevant.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
Exactly. All this stuff about "kicking back against globalization" we keep hearing about - it's bollocks. The Trump base are a bunch of dumb and nasty fucks. If globalization truly has fucked them over, it's three cheers for globalization and you have my express permission to keep doing it.
Marx: "I am a socialist not because I love the poor, but because I hate them."
Someone on here earlier post something about the dreadful standard of US public education.
Your friend confirms everything he has said and perhaps more colorfully and clearly. Until one understands this, one cannot understand Trump's support and one is always likely to underestimate it.
"LIBRUL TEARS" is the phrase used for years by a journo mate of mine based in Philly. It is the prime motivation, but I'd say it's pretty well understood by a bunch of people. Difficult to combat though.
His other phrase for it (and the whole antiscience Republican movement) is "Big Stupid".
The rule as communicated to me is that we can go abroad, but if we have to isolate due to a change in quarantine rules, it's unpaid leave.
I have to say I don't see that as unreasonable. We've got six weeks in the summer FFS and getting replacements in for teachers at short notice is bloody hard.
Boris's problem was encapsulated in a nutshell when he was asked about a second lockdown. He didn;t rule it out, which the papers have seized on for click bait I guess.
But in his answer came the odd question 'can we afford it?' as if he expected someone to answer that and take responsibility for what in fact the ultimate question and the ultimate decision. Not 'we can;t afford it' or 'we CAN afford it' or even 'its far from clear we could afford that...' or its unlikely we can afford it'
Sad, really. But comments like that are ruinous for British business confidence. How would you feel, if your Prime Minister could not rule out a measure that almost destroyed your business first time around.
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The Duke of Norfolk CE Primary in Glossop has shut for a fortnight after two positive cases, including one among the catering team. It's the first in England to fully shut following the post-lockdown return to classrooms.
In a letter to parents headteacher Esther Bland said: "We have been advised by Public Health England that there have been two confirmed cases of COVID-19 within the school.
"As one of these cases is a member of the catering team (and has had widespread contact with the rest of the school), we have to close the school for 14 days.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/primary-school-becomes-first-fully-18943610
(numbers of tests, even population normalised is probably not a great measure anyway - you could do lots of tests without much benefit if poorly targeted; if you've got good control on COVID-19 by other means/excellent tracing then doing lots of tests is less important too)
I'm astonished to learn that nobody in the government thought that reopening the schools and the wider economy would result in a higher demand for tests.
I think everywhere Boris looks he can see potential assassins at the moment, that's probably a factor in his general poor performances and demeanor. Inside and outside of the party, he's building up far too many enemies.
BoZo trying to persuade him to stay.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/15/sweden-records-its-fewest-daily-covid-19-cases-since-march
It's very odd indeed (or just a mark of this administrations abject lack of initiative) that they didn't use the quieter summer period to set up protocols for that.
https://www.ft.com/content/3148de6c-3b33-42d3-8cf6-d0e4263cea82
(As I understand it, & FWIW)
Can you show me where the likes of Anders Tegnell has said increased use of masks increases the chances of catching Covid-19?
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1306212260214435840?s=20
'The uncomfortable truth, which Westminster struggles to acknowledge, is that another Trump victory might be in Britain’s best interests. If The Donald's international comedy routine comes to an end, the joke might be on us.'
I think covid transmisibility is somewhere between common colds and the flu.
Are coronavirus colds (Not covid19) difficult to transmit ?
I do not think it is a joke or a comedy routine. We don't need Trump, we need Britain taken seriously as a sovereign equal on the world stage with serious actors like Biden.
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1306217973322002433?s=20
Next year I reckon the tories will be looking to sweep away the horrible wretchedness of 2020. A big beast safe pair of hands genuine tory.
Raab fits the bill. Especially if he is up against Starmer. Two peas in a pod. Charisma free lawyer vs charisma free lawyer.
"84% of French office workers are back at their desks, but less than 40% of British ones are".
However I also respect the Brexit vote and like it or not Trump backed Brexit and if we burn all bridges with the EU as now seems likely and go to tariffs with our largest trading partner following that with a poor relationship with our second largest trading partner will not be a good idead.
Biden will ignore Britain and focus on the EU and Dublin if the internal markets bill becomes law, your Biden love affair is fine but be aware a Biden Presidency and a Pelosi led Congress will not give a toss about post Brexit Britain, certainly unless we shift to an EEA relationship with the EU
NEW THREAD
If the Internal Markets Bill goes through, transition ends with WTO and Biden becomes President then what happens next?
Do you think the world ends then with no more steps taken by anybody?
Or might Ireland, the EU and America still want a deal to be reached that can resolve the Irish border issues?
Now obviously cases are rising and the government are telling us to minimize contacts, but rather than pause this pilot, they have given the go ahead, starting this weekend.
We will in Obama's own words literally be 'at the back of the queue' and irrelevant to a Biden administration
Are the EU going to be happy to leave matters like that? Or are they going to want a solution to the Irish issue?
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/
That would be quite the sequence of events.
vs 2000 - change in rating:
UK: -42
Fr: -31
Gr: -52
Jp: -36
Ca: -37
Oz: -26
The EU will not budge an inch
The thing with this shit is not only the political slant, but it aint funny.
Mark Thomas is a very left wing, but he can actually tell a funny tale and has a self deprecating manner about individuals involved in the movements he has been involved with.
Matthew Parris" (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/sweden-was-right-to-put-two-fingers-up-to-us-2cc5gw286
His other phrase for it (and the whole antiscience Republican movement) is "Big Stupid".
I have to say I don't see that as unreasonable. We've got six weeks in the summer FFS and getting replacements in for teachers at short notice is bloody hard.