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Polling for Trump v Biden is following almost exactly the same pattern as for the 2018 Midterms – po

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  • What a complete tosser. Labour must be sorely tempted to call his bluff and allow the bill to pass as it is, but the consequent no deal would obviously devastate the economy as well as the Conservative party.

    Labour should just call his bluff. If he actually does go for No Deal, it will all be on him.
    No they need to oppose it, because they or some other grown-ups will have to pick up the pieces, and for that they need to be able to show that they were statesmanlike. I think the Labour line of pushing the sheer incompetence of the government is the right one - they can reap the political benefits of the no-deal chaos without having tried to 'stop Brexit'.
  • MangoMango Posts: 1,019

    HYUFD said:
    When are we going to get an article on what a gargantuan shower of sh8t the liberal democrats are right now?

    If there's a wrong side to be on every argument, they find it.

    They could make a big impact in the leafy shires where they were strong by fighting the tories' planning plans. Nothing

    They could make a big impact by at least asking questions about the relationship between liberty lockdown and freedom that some are asking, and the rule by decree that is becoming increasingly unpopular. After all, 'liberal' and 'democratic' are their name. Nothing.

    They could ask questions about why as Max pointed out earlier, the lives of young people are being destroyed on pretexts that are becoming more and more debatable. Nothing. Labour should be on this too. Its them the young vote for, after all. But again, nothing.

    People talk, rightly, about how poor the government is. What is less talked about is how poor the opposition is. Ed Miliband got praise lavished on him by a fawning commentariat for asking tough questions on a topic the public don;t give a monkeys about. A topic they believe was decided months ago.

    On topics they do care a great deal about, nothing.

    Don't worry. You'll get your fascist party soon enough. All inevitable since 23/06/16. Remains to be seen which robber barons of the Fourth Estate will throw their ample weight behind it.
  • What a complete tosser. Labour must be sorely tempted to call his bluff and allow the bill to pass as it is, but the consequent no deal would obviously devastate the economy as well as the Conservative party.

    Labour should just call his bluff. If he actually does go for No Deal, it will all be on him.
    No they need to oppose it, because they or some other grown-ups will have to pick up the pieces, and for that they need to be able to show that they were statesmanlike. I think the Labour line of pushing the sheer incompetence of the government is the right one - they can reap the political benefits of the no-deal chaos without having tried to 'stop Brexit'.
    To pick up the pieces you have to be in a position to win power. Nobody remembers the tactics used by opposition parties to put the government in a hole.
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  • What a complete tosser. Labour must be sorely tempted to call his bluff and allow the bill to pass as it is, but the consequent no deal would obviously devastate the economy as well as the Conservative party.

    Labour should just call his bluff. If he actually does go for No Deal, it will all be on him.
    No they need to oppose it, because they or some other grown-ups will have to pick up the pieces, and for that they need to be able to show that they were statesmanlike. I think the Labour line of pushing the sheer incompetence of the government is the right one - they can reap the political benefits of the no-deal chaos without having tried to 'stop Brexit'.
    To pick up the pieces you have to be in a position to win power. Nobody remembers the tactics used by opposition parties to put the government in a hole.
    Agreed, but the EU, other international players, and business will remember. To regain trust and undo some of the damage, the UK at some point will have to be able to make a convincing case that the Johnson government was just a terrible but temporary aberration. The more that our other institutions, including other political parties and what remains of the sane parts of the Conservative Party, have been seen to be trying to act responsibly, the better.
  • kinabalu said:

    Don't imagine Don was on tenterhooks about which way Scientific American was going to jump, but still..

    https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1305854127721910275?s=20

    Lozza right back at you on this one -

    https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1305888118755782657?s=20
    Lozza sure seems to have a twitter/social media monkey on his back.

    Heat up banally contentious opinion in a spoon.
    Suck it up on to your iphone.
    Flex your tweeting bicep as you gibber excitedly in anticipation.
    Fire it into the ether and wait for the warm glow of outrage from wokies and approving rts from your fellow 'controversialists'.

    The drug is wreaking havoc in Britain's reactionary community.

  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,851
    I ask the question again. Why is Boris so opposed to a border in the Irish Sea? And far from weakening 'our Union' doesn't it spell our the reality of independence to the SNP? Want to be outside the UK and in the EU? Then this is the consequence.
  • Boris once again negotiating with himself and his lickspittle MPs, rather than with the EU. It's hilarious, or would be if we weren't all going to be hit by the consequences in a few weeks' time. Our EU ex-friends must be looking at all this with a mixture of amusement, horror, anger, impatience, and above all disbelief.
    Our MPs are more important, they set the law the EU does not. Its called Taking Back Control, maybe a concept you should get used to . . . laws set by MPs we elected, what a novel concept!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,885
    Not for a fairly significant portion of their voters, mind.
  • This will amuse you: there's a small chance I'll get involved in this project.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,226

    kinabalu said:

    Don't imagine Don was on tenterhooks about which way Scientific American was going to jump, but still..

    https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1305854127721910275?s=20

    Lozza right back at you on this one -

    https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1305888118755782657?s=20
    Lozza sure seems to have a twitter/social media monkey on his back.

    Heat up banally contentious opinion in a spoon.
    Suck it up on to your iphone.
    Flex your tweeting bicep as you gibber excitedly in anticipation.
    Fire it into the ether and wait for the warm glow of outrage from wokies and approving rts from your fellow 'controversialists'.

    The drug is wreaking havoc in Britain's reactionary community.
    Yep he is full time agit prop now. Picking up loads of EDL type followers plus the revolving bow tie brigade. Hope for his sake he is keeping it compartmentalised in his head. There is a risk otherwise of his very inner core becoming infected with the essence of wanker.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    Alistair said:

    Alistair said:
    'Kin hell.

    Dems would take Texas and most of the South on that?

    But obviously an outlier.
    21% undecideds make this the most outlying outlier of outlier-ville.

    Also, as RCS says never, ever heard of them.

    It just shows what kind of narrative you can build if you cherry pick which polls to post on PB.com
    What do you make of this? I'm not sure who this is good for?

    https://twitter.com/YouGovAmerica/status/1305598540782206977
    The traditional view is that this should be good for the Dems, as their voters are more likely to work jobs where it is hard to access a polling station on election day. But in a world of COVID, who know wtf it means?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    The PB.com new look is a great improvement but the loading speeds definitely seem to be slower... which would not be an issue but AFAIK the only way to see new comments is to re-load the page.

    I am not complaining - PB is a free service after all but if anyone has any suggestions on changes I could mak to speed things up, I'd be obliged.
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