That delivery was lacking makes Blair's government even more culpable given the favourable circumstances it operated in.
I don't think anyone can claim that the period 1997-2007 was harder than from 2008 onwards.
The problem was Blair believed Labour had to be cautious to persuade disillusioned Conservatives the Party he led was a non-socialist party of the centre or centre-left. He spent the whole of the 1997 campaign desperately trying to convince anyone and everyone how little things would change not how much.
The central message was the basic tenets of Thatcherism were safe with him and his Government. Yes, they could and would be run better with a bit more "humanity" and without the sleaze which by then was a stench over Major and the Conservatives of whom people were tired after 18 years.
By 2001, I suspect the mood had changed and whether it was because of the 59% turnout or not, Blair was just not prepared to be radical with his landslide as were Asquith, Attlee and Thatcher.
In truth, he didn't really have a radical agenda as the others did and he ended up being defined by events initially outside his control.
Scared of their own shadow despite a 179 seat majority. Such was the power of the Establishment.
They could have done anything between 1997 and 2005 with those massive majorities. Top of the list: they should have introduced proportional representation in my opinion.
After those thumping victories under FPTP? It'd take a lot more stubborn principal than most possess to change the voting system after that.
And haven’t they paid for their hubris and lack of foresight?
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
Except they weren't in a majority. Thanks to the joys of our electoral system Thatch got big majorities with less than half the vote. Partly thanks to a divided opposition. I'll hold my hand up - I voted SDP twice.
That's a good point - and a truly terrible confession.
The SDP soaked up a lot of centrist votes that would otherwise have gone to Thatcher.
Yep. I was in the SDP at the time and even stood for them once in a local election. Had it been a straight choice between 1980’s Labour and Maggie she would have had another vote (for all the good that would have done her in Dundee West).
The first raves were just bloody brilliant. Probably because the E was so good.
Dancing to mad music with 5,000 other young people. with everyone blissed and smiling because of E, and in some illegal warehouse in King's Cross with wild lights and fireworks and everyone having sex in the loos. Oh God
It's sad it was so short. By 1990 the E was way down in quality, dodgy dealers were moving in, the raves got edgier and nastier (previously they'd been incredibly peaceful), police clamped down, it all got rather sad rather quick, even the music palled.
But it was great while it lasted.
The original Summer of Love also soured quickly. Assassinations and riots and prog rock.
Yes. A feature not a bug methinks. From Haight Ashbury to Altamont in a few short years
Think that's right. A great "moment" in modern culture and music terms cannot last for more than a couple of years. And you're lucky if you get to be in the thick of even one of them. I haven't.
The first raves were just bloody brilliant. Probably because the E was so good.
Dancing to mad music with 5,000 other young people. with everyone blissed and smiling because of E, and in some illegal warehouse in King's Cross with wild lights and fireworks and everyone having sex in the loos. Oh God
It would be interesting to do a PB poll on when it was best to be young in the UK, since the Second World War
Musically, it's got to be the 60s or 70s. But few people in the 60s actually went to Festivals, and the economy soured. Likewise the 70s had Led Zep and then punk, but the country nearly went bust
A better argument can be made, I reckon for
The late 1980s: decent music, rising prosperity, house buying The mid- late 1990s: more prosperity, music not so good, a sense of peace, still house buying The noughties in general: shit music, but lots of jobs, rising education levels Not Now: no sex, Wokeness, anger, drill and Ed Sheeran
That delivery was lacking makes Blair's government even more culpable given the favourable circumstances it operated in.
I don't think anyone can claim that the period 1997-2007 was harder than from 2008 onwards.
The problem was Blair believed Labour had to be cautious to persuade disillusioned Conservatives the Party he led was a non-socialist party of the centre or centre-left. He spent the whole of the 1997 campaign desperately trying to convince anyone and everyone how little things would change not how much.
The central message was the basic tenets of Thatcherism were safe with him and his Government. Yes, they could and would be run better with a bit more "humanity" and without the sleaze which by then was a stench over Major and the Conservatives of whom people were tired after 18 years.
By 2001, I suspect the mood had changed and whether it was because of the 59% turnout or not, Blair was just not prepared to be radical with his landslide as were Asquith, Attlee and Thatcher.
In truth, he didn't really have a radical agenda as the others did and he ended up being defined by events initially outside his control.
Scared of their own shadow despite a 179 seat majority. Such was the power of the Establishment.
They could have done anything between 1997 and 2005 with those massive majorities. Top of the list: they should have introduced proportional representation in my opinion.
Blair would have never done anything without Murdoch's approval.
Late to the thread, but I broadly agree with the argument that "Starmer will only win when he can integrate enough Blue Labour thinking to help retake the Red Wall and middle England." Or at least defuse the issues that caused Red Wall and middle England voters to abandon Labour, if not necessarily to embrace them.
Here's a poll from back in January 2013, when Miliband had not yet come out against a referendum on EU membership. Labour was 13% ahead and Leave split 36% Con to 34% Lab. Fast forward to July 2020, Labour is still 10% behind with YouGov and Leave splits 76% Con to 12% Lab.
LIkewise, in Jan 2013 the C2DE vote was 51% Lab to 24% Con. Now it's 35% Lab to 50% Con.
In Jan 2013 the 60+ vote was 37% Con to 34% Lab. Now the 65+ vote is 66% Con to 21% Lab.
Leave voters, C2DEs, pensioners - these are the groups which have swung most markedly against Labour ever since the UK's place in the EU started to become a major issue that determined voting intention.
Which groups neatly explain why County Durham has some Tory Mps.
That delivery was lacking makes Blair's government even more culpable given the favourable circumstances it operated in.
I don't think anyone can claim that the period 1997-2007 was harder than from 2008 onwards.
The problem was Blair believed Labour had to be cautious to persuade disillusioned Conservatives the Party he led was a non-socialist party of the centre or centre-left. He spent the whole of the 1997 campaign desperately trying to convince anyone and everyone how little things would change not how much.
The central message was the basic tenets of Thatcherism were safe with him and his Government. Yes, they could and would be run better with a bit more "humanity" and without the sleaze which by then was a stench over Major and the Conservatives of whom people were tired after 18 years.
By 2001, I suspect the mood had changed and whether it was because of the 59% turnout or not, Blair was just not prepared to be radical with his landslide as were Asquith, Attlee and Thatcher.
In truth, he didn't really have a radical agenda as the others did and he ended up being defined by events initially outside his control.
Scared of their own shadow despite a 179 seat majority. Such was the power of the Establishment.
They could have done anything between 1997 and 2005 with those massive majorities. Top of the list: they should have introduced proportional representation in my opinion.
After those thumping victories under FPTP? It'd take a lot more stubborn principal than most possess to change the voting system after that.
And haven’t they paid for their hubris and lack of foresight?
The first raves were just bloody brilliant. Probably because the E was so good.
Dancing to mad music with 5,000 other young people. with everyone blissed and smiling because of E, and in some illegal warehouse in King's Cross with wild lights and fireworks and everyone having sex in the loos. Oh God
Re place. Everyone loves telecommuting when we are in the transition phase still getting paid to do real commuting. Medium-term, if workers don't need a train ticket, wages will adjust downward. If not through renegotiation, then through sending work to Brasov instead of Bradford.
Higher paid workers who already have their positions and their reputations and their contacts will love working from home.
Lower paid workers who are younger and who don't have a second bedroom and might even be living in a flatshare and who are left out of meetings and no longer get any mentoring will hate it.
A critical point - and not just because of the comfort and suitability of the home environment for working.
Older workers who shift toward home working already know their jobs and their business, and have relationships with their contacts and colleagues.
For younger workers, being in an office environment after school or university or an early job switch is a significant learning curve, during which you acquire all of the above. Being given a laptop and working from your bedsit or flat isn’t the same at all.
However, if the new grad gets a WFH job they don't need to rent a room in a share house. They can live at home and be pampered by their mum.
My nephew has moved back in with his parents for the duration. However he is still paying rent in London. Which is a bit of a bugger.
I remember coming to London with my future wife about 1981-2. We went to see docklands ( she is very tolerant of my weird interests). Canary Tower was up and we got the elevator to the top. Around it nothing else of any size was completed but it was by far the biggest building site I have ever seen in my life. It was exhilarating. You had the impression of something new and incredibly different being born. We didn’t do any raves though.
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
There's always been people thrown on the scrapheap and others who have been selfish arseholes.
But the 1980s were good for most people and most places - that everywhere outside of Southern England was one big soup kitchen seems to be a recurring fantasy of middle class leftists.
Ironically one group of places which did struggle in the 1980s were middle class inner urban areas which went significantly downhill with consequences to the Conservative vote in cities.
And yet the blighted lives and lack of opportunity in the post industrial towns and regions of the North was so profound even 30 years later that it drove Brexit.
It would be interesting to do a PB poll on when it was best to be young in the UK, since the Second World War
Musically, it's got to be the 60s or 70s. But few people in the 60s actually went to Festivals, and the economy soured. Likewise the 70s had Led Zep and then punk, but the country nearly went bust
A better argument can be made, I reckon for
The late 1980s: decent music, rising prosperity, house buying The mid- late 1990s: more prosperity, music not so good, a sense of peace, still house buying The noughties in general: shit music, but lots of jobs, rising education levels Not Now: no sex, Wokeness, anger, drill and Ed Sheeran
BUT at least we've got Kanye West.
Who BTW just paid $35k to get his name placed as candidate for President on the Oklahoma 2020 general election ballot.
That delivery was lacking makes Blair's government even more culpable given the favourable circumstances it operated in.
I don't think anyone can claim that the period 1997-2007 was harder than from 2008 onwards.
The problem was Blair believed Labour had to be cautious to persuade disillusioned Conservatives the Party he led was a non-socialist party of the centre or centre-left. He spent the whole of the 1997 campaign desperately trying to convince anyone and everyone how little things would change not how much.
The central message was the basic tenets of Thatcherism were safe with him and his Government. Yes, they could and would be run better with a bit more "humanity" and without the sleaze which by then was a stench over Major and the Conservatives of whom people were tired after 18 years.
By 2001, I suspect the mood had changed and whether it was because of the 59% turnout or not, Blair was just not prepared to be radical with his landslide as were Asquith, Attlee and Thatcher.
In truth, he didn't really have a radical agenda as the others did and he ended up being defined by events initially outside his control.
Scared of their own shadow despite a 179 seat majority. Such was the power of the Establishment.
They could have done anything between 1997 and 2005 with those massive majorities. Top of the list: they should have introduced proportional representation in my opinion.
After those thumping victories under FPTP? It'd take a lot more stubborn principal than most possess to change the voting system after that.
And haven’t they paid for their hubris and lack of foresight?
Only their hubris of thinking they'd abolished boom and bust. That's the one piece of hubris that made Labour unelectable.
Labour aren't losing elections because of the electoral system. Labour are losing elections because they don't deserve to win elections according to the electorate . . .address that and the rest will follow.
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
There's always been people thrown on the scrapheap and others who have been selfish arseholes.
But the 1980s were good for most people and most places - that everywhere outside of Southern England was one big soup kitchen seems to be a recurring fantasy of middle class leftists.
Ironically one group of places which did struggle in the 1980s were middle class inner urban areas which went significantly downhill with consequences to the Conservative vote in cities.
And yet the blighted lives and lack of opportunity in the post industrial towns and regions of the North was so profound even 30 years later that it drove Brexit.
Deindustrialisation is hardly unique to the UK.
The US has a rust belt, France and Belgium have their coal districts, Germany has East Germany.
Any large, advanced industrialised nations will have a region in decline, because the industry left, for cheaper places with lower wages.
Did Thatcher show unusual callousness? Maybe, but her reforms took the UK from being the sick man of Europe to, consistently, one of the fastest growing large economies
Late to the thread, but I broadly agree with the argument that "Starmer will only win when he can integrate enough Blue Labour thinking to help retake the Red Wall and middle England." Or at least defuse the issues that caused Red Wall and middle England voters to abandon Labour, if not necessarily to embrace them.
Here's a poll from back in January 2013, when Miliband had not yet come out against a referendum on EU membership. Labour was 13% ahead and Leave split 36% Con to 34% Lab. Fast forward to July 2020, Labour is still 10% behind with YouGov and Leave splits 76% Con to 12% Lab.
LIkewise, in Jan 2013 the C2DE vote was 51% Lab to 24% Con. Now it's 35% Lab to 50% Con.
In Jan 2013 the 60+ vote was 37% Con to 34% Lab. Now the 65+ vote is 66% Con to 21% Lab.
Leave voters, C2DEs, pensioners - these are the groups which have swung most markedly against Labour ever since the UK's place in the EU started to become a major issue that determined voting intention.
Our main challenge is getting a decent chunk of the "closer to grave than cradle" vote. We're doing brilliant with the others. Better than ever. But the oldsters cannot abide us.
I remember coming to London with my future wife about 1981-2. We went to see docklands ( she is very tolerant of my weird interests). Canary Tower was up and we got the elevator to the top. Around it nothing else of any size was completed but it was by far the biggest building site I have ever seen in my life. It was exhilarating. You had the impression of something new and incredibly different being born. We didn’t do any raves though.
Early Docklands was something else.
They made a city out of nothing, It was utter wasteland. Now:
This is why I pray that London survives the virus. Yes it gets too much money and too much attention. It is annoying. It's inhabitants vex and kvetch. Fuck bloody London.
And yet, in my lifetime, amazing regeneration has been done here, and, more to the point, this has generated enormous sums of money for the whole country
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
There's always been people thrown on the scrapheap and others who have been selfish arseholes.
But the 1980s were good for most people and most places - that everywhere outside of Southern England was one big soup kitchen seems to be a recurring fantasy of middle class leftists.
Ironically one group of places which did struggle in the 1980s were middle class inner urban areas which went significantly downhill with consequences to the Conservative vote in cities.
And yet the blighted lives and lack of opportunity in the post industrial towns and regions of the North was so profound even 30 years later that it drove Brexit.
Its a bit simplistic and ignorant to put Brexit down to a lack of opportunity in towns.
The cultural thinking here in the North is different to elsewhere and its arrogant to think that Northerners are only different because we're worse off.
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
Except they weren't in a majority. Thanks to the joys of our electoral system Thatch got big majorities with less than half the vote. Partly thanks to a divided opposition. I'll hold my hand up - I voted SDP twice.
That's a good point - and a truly terrible confession.
The SDP soaked up a lot of centrist votes that would otherwise have gone to Thatcher.
Yes that's a fair assumption - especially vs Foot. But surely the net impact was bigger Con majority. Still, every right to stand. I don't consider them traitors or anything.
Tonight's Top of the Pops' are from 14th and 21st December 1989 on BBC4 at 8pm.
I'm in. It's a missing year for me. I was in Australia.
I was living in NZ. Christmas with family in Auckland. I don’t think that I missed too much at the fag end of the Eighties in the UK.
The end of the 80s was a brilliant time in the UK, certainly in London
The long Lawson boom, Thatcherite deregulation, the Big Bang in the City, London's population growing for the first time since 1939. It was when everything began to turn around. Also, it was the era of Really Good Ecstasy, and the second summer of love.
London in about 1986-89 was a brilliant, throbbing city on the rise.
And, of course, in 1989 The Stones Roses put out The Stone Roses
I don't agree with all of it, but Andrew Marr's documentary on the Thatcher era does a good job of capturing the renewed sense of optimism.
There really was an atmosphere of positivity. A sense, fuckyeah, we're on the way back.
Noticeably, Loadsamoney became a massively popular (and occasionally amusing) comedy character, in the late 80s: because he captured a truth. Suddenly, working class people (in London and the south) felt quite a lot richer.
His creators meant him to be a villain, but he became a kind of passing folk hero
In London and the South. Glad you said that. But should not be in brackets.
There were plenty of working class people all over the country in the 1980s who became, not just felt, a lot richer.
It seems that you still don't understand the results of the 1987 and 1992 general elections.
There were plenty thrown on the scrapheap too. People voting for Thatcher gave no fucks about that because they were selfish arseholes. Unfortunately they were in the majority. See, I understand perfectly. ☺
There's always been people thrown on the scrapheap and others who have been selfish arseholes.
But the 1980s were good for most people and most places - that everywhere outside of Southern England was one big soup kitchen seems to be a recurring fantasy of middle class leftists.
Ironically one group of places which did struggle in the 1980s were middle class inner urban areas which went significantly downhill with consequences to the Conservative vote in cities.
And yet the blighted lives and lack of opportunity in the post industrial towns and regions of the North was so profound even 30 years later that it drove Brexit.
You'll never understand because you don't want to understand.
Brexit was a reaction to the previous decade not the 1980s.
It was the effects of Blair and Brown not Thatcher.
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ARE YOU GOING TO SAN FRANCISCO?
John Edmund Andrew Phillips
If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there
For those who come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
In the streets of San Francisco
Gentle people with flowers in their hair
All across the nation
Such a strange vibration
People in motion
There's a whole generation
With a new explanation
People in motion
For those who come to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
Musically, it's got to be the 60s or 70s. But few people in the 60s actually went to Festivals, and the economy soured. Likewise the 70s had Led Zep and then punk, but the country nearly went bust
A better argument can be made, I reckon for
The late 1980s: decent music, rising prosperity, house buying
The mid- late 1990s: more prosperity, music not so good, a sense of peace, still house buying
The noughties in general: shit music, but lots of jobs, rising education levels
Not Now: no sex, Wokeness, anger, drill and Ed Sheeran
My nephew has moved back in with his parents for the duration. However he is still paying rent in London. Which is a bit of a bugger.
seen in my life. It was exhilarating. You had the impression of something new and incredibly different being born.
We didn’t do any raves though.
Who BTW just paid $35k to get his name placed as candidate for President on the Oklahoma 2020 general election ballot.
Labour aren't losing elections because of the electoral system. Labour are losing elections because they don't deserve to win elections according to the electorate . . .address that and the rest will follow.
The US has a rust belt, France and Belgium have their coal districts, Germany has East Germany.
Any large, advanced industrialised nations will have a region in decline, because the industry left, for cheaper places with lower wages.
Did Thatcher show unusual callousness? Maybe, but her reforms took the UK from being the sick man of Europe to, consistently, one of the fastest growing large economies
Situación de brotes activos e inactivos notificados por las comunidades autónomas y otros focos detectados
They made a city out of nothing, It was utter wasteland. Now:
https://www.luxurylifestylemag.co.uk/travel/canary-wharf-what-to-do-eat-and-drink-and-where-to-stay-in-londons-bustling-business-district/
it's like Singapore.
This is why I pray that London survives the virus. Yes it gets too much money and too much attention. It is annoying. It's inhabitants vex and kvetch. Fuck bloody London.
And yet, in my lifetime, amazing regeneration has been done here, and, more to the point, this has generated enormous sums of money for the whole country
The cultural thinking here in the North is different to elsewhere and its arrogant to think that Northerners are only different because we're worse off.
Brexit was a reaction to the previous decade not the 1980s.
It was the effects of Blair and Brown not Thatcher.