I suspect Trump will lose with dishonour, and make the transition awful and leave a number of disasters for Biden to deal with.
You know starting a war with Iran and the like.
Power runs away from him if he has clearly lost. In the period before FDR took office Hoover begged him to give some support to his policies as the banking network in State after State collapsed. FDR refused to do or say anything. Things got very ugly between them and the reciprocal hospitality that is standard between an incoming and outgoing President did not occur. Hoover considered it pretty much treason. FDR did not want to be trapped by failed policies. In the end though the outgoing President has no cards to play.
He's still Commander-in-Chief, his word is the law until January 20th.
But once the clock strikes midday he is nothing, even if he starts WWIII first the transition must still take place (e.g. Atlee replacing Churchill in the middle of the Potsdam Conference).
It doesn't matter if Trump doesn't physically leave the White House, he'll have nothing of the apparatus of state. In fact he'd be physically evicted if it came to it, but I don't think it will.
I actually have some sympathy for the Government on this. The fact that a Television or Radio programme exists imposes no obligation on politicians to appear on them. Harold Wilson and Ted Heath did not have to make themselves available , and I see no reason why their successors today should be cajoled into bowing to the wishes of Broadcasters.
Morgan was also the most aggressive, hectoring interviewer I have seen. I forget the name of the minister I saw him interviewing (I’ve met her a couple of times and she has made zero impact on me). But if one of my team treated anyone like that I’d have him sacked for bullying.
I think China will be at the centerpiece of that. The Democrats could not have selected a worse candidate to make an argument to the American people than Joe Biden. So I think 2020 is really a continuation almost of 2016. We still have not worked through these issues. Remember, the campaign slogan was “Make America Great Again.”
I said that that is going to be a generational struggle. You’re not going to wave a magic wand. I think 2020 is shaping up in the last 150 days to be just this classic counter of the globalism of Joe Biden and the Wall Street faction of the Democratic Party versus the economic nationalism and populism of Trump and potentially some slice of the Bernie [Sanders] contingent.
This confrontation with the Chinese Communist Party, I believe, will be the single defining aspect of 2020. And yes, I think for President Trump, because I think he’s just getting the sea legs now. Focusing on the law and order aspect of this, he was kind of quiet for the first week, as are the poll numbers.
Shameless populist propaganda as usual from Bannon, as if Trump has been working against the interests of Wall Street and global big business. Limited economic protectionism, largely on aluminium and steel, does not amount to countering "globalism", but this plays well with the base, who perceive globalism as a strange fusion of trade and the values of the United Nations.
It’s a disgraceful thing for Biden to say. He’s undermining the integrity of the system, presumably to energise his base.
Trump will leave office if he loses. I’d be worried that he’ll say “fuck in” in November, write a few pardons and go to Florida for the winter
How is Biden undermining the integrity of the system? His criticism seems to be reserved specifically for Trump. Nothing to do with the system. And from what I see Biden appears to believe the system will maintain its er.. integrity.
Even if the media I view clearly has a view I prefer it to be somewhat restrained, adopt at least an impression of seeking to be objective even if, deliberately or otherwise, it falls short. Perhaps that's even intellectually dishonest of me, but I can very rarely abide the more fulsomely partisan stuff even when I agree with it. Detachment is key.
Hard to predict what will happen with Donald Trump after the big defeat which is almost certainly coming his way but it's child's play to predict what WON'T -
It doesn't matter if Trump doesn't physically leave the White House, he'll have nothing of the apparatus of state. In fact he'd be physically evicted if it came to it, but I don't think it will.
I don't think that is the point. If he encourages his supporters to believe the election was rigged against him it will only create more disharmony.
I actually have some sympathy for the Government on this. The fact that a Television or Radio programme exists imposes no obligation on politicians to appear on them. Harold Wilson and Ted Heath did not have to make themselves available , and I see no reason why their successors today should be cajoled into bowing to the wishes of Broadcasters.
Morgan was also the most aggressive, hectoring interviewer I have seen. I forget the name of the minister I saw him interviewing (I’ve met her a couple of times and she has made zero impact on me). But if one of my team treated anyone like that I’d have him sacked for bullying.
Helen Whateley, I reckon. I saw an interview she gave him where he accused her of laughing at old people dying of Covid-19 in care homes, when she was blatantly obviously smiling in exasperation at his constant interruptions. It was absolutely disgraceful.
The situation could be dangerous due to all those guns wielded by Trumpnuts. But, sorry Mike, I can't see disapproval by Boris making a blind bit of difference.
As has been demonstrated recently the US military tends to avoid politics.
I believe in old Rome the military stayed out of town. But it was the Praetorian guard wasn't it that installed Claudius? Claudius is usually considered to have been a stutterer and physically weak. Does that remind us of anyone?
All the service branches swear to serve the Constitution, not the President. The US military will simply no longer obey Trump and the USSS is the Praetorian Guard.
Trump is surrounded by people with handcuffs and guns who will simply give him the choice of being cuffed on TV or discretely leaving.
It will not be a circus. He might rant and rave between the election and the swearing in, but nobody is going to let him start WW3
Yes, which is why I keep on saying the danger point is the election and the days preceding it. That's when the Trump supporters who turned out with their weaponry for the anti-lockdown protests can make a difference, since at that point they will be up against unarmed Democrat voters rather than the US military.
How many polling stations would they need to force the closure of in heavily Democrat areas to swing the battleground states?
Then, once the day is over the chance to vote is gone. If Democrat votes weren't cast because Democrat voters were scared away from polling stations on election day then Democrat votes won't be counted. By the metrics that count under the constitution Trump will be the victor.
Worrying about what Trump might do after he loses is to ignore the greater danger of what he will do to ensure that he wins.
It’s a disgraceful thing for Biden to say. He’s undermining the integrity of the system, presumably to energise his base.
Trump will leave office if he loses. I’d be worried that he’ll say “fuck in” in November, write a few pardons and go to Florida for the winter
How is Biden undermining the integrity of the system? His criticism seems to be reserved specifically for Trump. Nothing to do with the system. And from what I see Biden appears to believe the system will maintain its er.. integrity.
Raising the possibility that a president can ignore the results of the rkection puts the possibility into the public domain
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I actually have some sympathy for the Government on this. The fact that a Television or Radio programme exists imposes no obligation on politicians to appear on them. Harold Wilson and Ted Heath did not have to make themselves available , and I see no reason why their successors today should be cajoled into bowing to the wishes of Broadcasters.
Morgan was also the most aggressive, hectoring interviewer I have seen. I forget the name of the minister I saw him interviewing (I’ve met her a couple of times and she has made zero impact on me). But if one of my team treated anyone like that I’d have him sacked for bullying.
Helen Whateley, I reckon. I saw an interview she gave him where he accused her of laughing at old people dying of Covid-19 in care homes, when she was blatantly obviously smiling in exasperation at his constant interruptions. It was absolutely disgraceful.
That’s the one. She’s a friend of my ceo so have met her in that context
Biden seems to be pretty tough, or at least his team is. The ruthless way he dispatched his opponents in the primaries gives some hope that he will dispatch a Trump in November. He is clearly not holding back. Good.
It’s a disgraceful thing for Biden to say. He’s undermining the integrity of the system, presumably to energise his base.
Trump will leave office if he loses. I’d be worried that he’ll say “fuck in” in November, write a few pardons and go to Florida for the winter
How is Biden undermining the integrity of the system? His criticism seems to be reserved specifically for Trump. Nothing to do with the system. And from what I see Biden appears to believe the system will maintain its er.. integrity.
Raising the possibility that a president can ignore the results of the rkection puts the possibility into the public domain
I'm not sure 'ignore' is the right word. Defy maybe, or attempt to. Which is an absolute possibility.
Our media are pig ignorant, biased, driven by gotchas, fundamentally dishonest and partisan. But I really don't understand this "we are not speaking to you any more" strategy. Its just silly and counterproductive.
Cameron and Osborne were very reluctant to ever be interviewed by Andrew Neil, I think
Afaicr out of the pols who were willing to take him on, Swinson was supposed to have had the best performance against Neil at the GE (much good it did her) and he was thought to have given Sturgeon problems. I think Neil's influence on politics is overrated, not least by himself.
The situation could be dangerous due to all those guns wielded by Trumpnuts. But, sorry Mike, I can't see disapproval by Boris making a blind bit of difference.
As has been demonstrated recently the US military tends to avoid politics.
I believe in old Rome the military stayed out of town. But it was the Praetorian guard wasn't it that installed Claudius? Claudius is usually considered to have been a stutterer and physically weak. Does that remind us of anyone?
All the service branches swear to serve the Constitution, not the President. The US military will simply no longer obey Trump and the USSS is the Praetorian Guard.
Trump is surrounded by people with handcuffs and guns who will simply give him the choice of being cuffed on TV or discretely leaving.
It will not be a circus. He might rant and rave between the election and the swearing in, but nobody is going to let him start WW3
Yes, which is why I keep on saying the danger point is the election and the days preceding it. That's when the Trump supporters who turned out with their weaponry for the anti-lockdown protests can make a difference, since at that point they will be up against unarmed Democrat voters rather than the US military.
How many polling stations would they need to force the closure of in heavily Democrat areas to swing the battleground states?
Then, once the day is over the chance to vote is gone. If Democrat votes weren't cast because Democrat voters were scared away from polling stations on election day then Democrat votes won't be counted. By the metrics that count under the constitution Trump will be the victor.
Worrying about what Trump might do after he loses is to ignore the greater danger of what he will do to ensure that he wins.
That is what the cops are for. You know, law enforcement
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I live in Atlanta. The leading cause of death among black males under 25 is primarily black on black violence. More whites than blacks are killed by cops every year. which is not widely reported. There is a fundamental problem with police violence. There is no justifiable reason folks who were either selling single cigarettes or sleeping drunk in their car were killed by cops.
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I live in Atlanta. The leading cause of death among black males under 25 is primarily black on black violence. More whites than blacks are killed by cops every year. which is not widely reported. There is a fundamental problem with police violence. There is no justifiable reason folks who were either selling single cigarettes or sleeping drunk in their car were killed by cops.
Most of the cop killing & random shooter videos I've seen someone at some point reaches toward their pockets at a point that could have been mistaken for going for a weapon. And with the level of gun violence/murder rates in loads of US cities, who can blame them for having a hair trigger.
I actually have some sympathy for the Government on this. The fact that a Television or Radio programme exists imposes no obligation on politicians to appear on them. Harold Wilson and Ted Heath did not have to make themselves available , and I see no reason why their successors today should be cajoled into bowing to the wishes of Broadcasters.
Morgan was also the most aggressive, hectoring interviewer I have seen. I forget the name of the minister I saw him interviewing (I’ve met her a couple of times and she has made zero impact on me). But if one of my team treated anyone like that I’d have him sacked for bullying.
Remarkably little coverage in the media on this story, say what you like about the press but they do look after their own.
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I live in Atlanta. The leading cause of death among black males under 25 is primarily black on black violence. More whites than blacks are killed by cops every year. which is not widely reported. There is a fundamental problem with police violence. There is no justifiable reason folks who were either selling single cigarettes or sleeping drunk in their car were killed by cops.
IMO the problem with American police is that they often seem to be actively trying to find a reason to stop/arrest people. Police in most other western countries don't do that. They don't bother you unless you're obviously doing something wrong.
Under US constitution, barring re-election terms of both Trump & Pence expire on at noon on Inauguration Day 2021, with successors taking office upon taking their oaths of office.
So Trump & Pence would have zero federal employees - including military, Secret Service, Parks Service, etc. - to command. Any hair-brained attempt to cling to power (in the White House?, Camp David? Mar Largo?) would be a one-man band; certainly Pence would NOT be a party to such criminal-historical foolishness, and neither would Melania who has demonstrated she's got 98.46% of the brains of Clan Trumpsky.
NOTE that perhaps the most relevant instance of an incumbent clinging to the White House was Mary Todd Lincoln. As part of the trauma of the assassination of her husband, Mrs. Lincoln took an inordinate amount of time before moving out of the Executive Mansion. Which did NOT enhance her public image then or now.
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I live in Atlanta. The leading cause of death among black males under 25 is primarily black on black violence. More whites than blacks are killed by cops every year. which is not widely reported. There is a fundamental problem with police violence. There is no justifiable reason folks who were either selling single cigarettes or sleeping drunk in their car were killed by cops.
Most of the cop killing & random shooter videos I've seen someone at some point reaches toward their pockets at a point that could have been mistaken for going for a weapon. And with the level of gun violence/murder rates in loads of US cities, who can blame them for having a hair trigger.
Raychard pulled away and attempted to abscond. There was no need to pursue, he was pissed, but the cops had the car, and could pick him up sober the next day. Shooting him dead instead shows poor judgement.
Our media are pig ignorant, biased, driven by gotchas, fundamentally dishonest and partisan. But I really don't understand this "we are not speaking to you any more" strategy. Its just silly and counterproductive.
Cameron and Osborne were very reluctant to ever be interviewed by Andrew Neil, I think
Afaicr out of the pols who were willing to take him on, Swinson was supposed to have had the best performance against Neil at the GE (much good it did her) and he was thought to have given Sturgeon problems. I think Neil's influence on politics is overrated, not least by himself.
Yes, sorry for banging the sane old drum, but the public don't really care about serious political interviews. Neil definitely got a bit long of himself as the 2010s progressed.
Biden seems to be pretty tough, or at least his team is. The ruthless way he dispatched his opponents in the primaries gives some hope that he will dispatch a Trump in November. He is clearly not holding back. Good.
Joe Biden is tough as old boots. Securing the 2020 nomination is just laterst example where he's bested his opponents - just ask Judge Bork & Sarah Palin.
Are the protests against police killings in the United States hysterical? Doing a bit of digging and black people make up 13% of the US population, 26% of police killings and 52% of homicide victims. If one assumes that at least some police killings ARE justified it's fairly clear that the killings at the hands of the police are a drop in the ocean. I also understand that murder in the US tends to be pretty intraracial - whites kill whites and blacks kill blacks.
It may be that the images of Floyd bring out a deeper feeling in people that the police behave callously or are racist in general. But the idea that black men being killed by the police is the biggest problem facing the United States is absurd. I feel misled.
I can't make any judgement on your question as I don't know. I don't live in the US, visit rarely and don't have any friends in the black community over there. So I am ill equipped to judge.
But what I find terrifying is the stat that between 1980 and 2013 262,000 black males were killed in the US. The vast majority of those were not killed by police either legitimately or illegitimately.
There is something fundamentally wrong in, and with, the US today. Much as I wish it would, I don't see the current wave of protests making it any better.
More than were killed on both sides put together in the Civil war in actual combat. Just mind blowing.
I do live in the USA, and the leading cause of death among black males under 25 is gunshot wound. There is also a fundamental problem with police violence. The two are not connected.
Haven't you just identified the precise reason cops get... twitchy right there ?
I live in Atlanta. The leading cause of death among black males under 25 is primarily black on black violence. More whites than blacks are killed by cops every year. which is not widely reported. There is a fundamental problem with police violence. There is no justifiable reason folks who were either selling single cigarettes or sleeping drunk in their car were killed by cops.
Most of the cop killing & random shooter videos I've seen someone at some point reaches toward their pockets at a point that could have been mistaken for going for a weapon. And with the level of gun violence/murder rates in loads of US cities, who can blame them for having a hair trigger.
Raychard pulled away and attempted to abscond. There was no need to pursue, he was pissed, but the cops had the car, and could pick him up sober the next day. Shooting him dead instead shows poor judgement.
He's violently resisted arrest and tasering the officer. Next move could have been grabbing his gun from his car.
IPs lie all the time. Your home IP address is almost certainly not fixed, even if your ISP's dhcp configuration tries to give you the same external address each time, and then you might be using a VPN. You also probably have more than one internet connection (my two phones, two tablets and two laptops use between them three ISPs and six connections). That said, it would be interesting to see the logs at any change of government, especially 2010, to see how many pb Tories really were actual Tories (and similarly for the other parties).
IPs lie all the time. Your home IP address is almost certainly not fixed, even if your ISP's dhcp configuration tries to give you the same external address each time, and then you might be using a VPN. You also probably have more than one internet connection (my two phones, two tablets and two laptops use between them three ISPs and six connections). That said, it would be interesting to see the logs at any change of government, especially 2010, to see how many pb Tories really were actual Tories (and similarly for the other parties).
Let's see what happens to that extended invite if they want to talk about dressing up as a Nazi and goose-stepping about, eh Piers? Maybe throw in some questions about phone-hacking too. Then see who doesn't want to talk....
"Facts vs feelings in the BLM debate Despite activist anger, the statistics tell a broadly positive story about black middle-class advancement BY DAVID GOODHART"
On topic, Trump definitely isn't committed to democracy and before he won I was concerned that he'd spend his first term consolidating power, taking control of key groups, and refuse to hand it over. But he doesn't really seem to do this kind of strategic long game. He's replaced some of the career officials over time with cronies, but that mainly seems to have happened when he got frustrated with them, he hasn't installed loyalists all the way down.
The result is that with the exception of ICE, the security forces that Trump actually *commands* hate him as much as anybody else, both the leadership and the much of the lower ranks. He has plenty of sympathizers in regular law enforcement, but they work for the states and cities/counties not the federal government, and DC and all the major cities are controlled by Democrats.
So if Trump wants to lose the election but stay in office, he'll have to do it the traditional way, using the US Supreme Court.
It’s a disgraceful thing for Biden to say. He’s undermining the integrity of the system, presumably to energise his base.
Trump will leave office if he loses. I’d be worried that he’ll say “fuck in” in November, write a few pardons and go to Florida for the winter
It was an astute thing to suggest. It adds to the illegitimacy of Trump. It emphasises Trumps contempt for Constitutional and Presidential norms.
Even with half a brain, Biden is ahead of Trump.
And that very nicely describes my issue with it.
Trump is not illegitimate. He is a deeply unpleasant and divisive man, but he is the elected president
Except that Trump himself has suggested the possibility, as have many others. The idea that Biden is breaching some kind of convention by talking about it is absurd.
Just watched Newsnight. Am I correct that the lady appearing in the final section with Jonathan Powell is the same person who was frogmarched out of Downing St courtesy of Cummings last year?
Just watched Newsnight. Am I correct that the lady appearing in the final section with Jonathan Powell is the same person who was frogmarched out of Downing St courtesy of Cummings last year?
"Facts vs feelings in the BLM debate Despite activist anger, the statistics tell a broadly positive story about black middle-class advancement BY DAVID GOODHART"
In 2016 Mississippi voted 58% for Trump, 40% for Clinton, 2% others.
Thus poll shows that, with 9% undecided/other, Trump down by -8%, Dem opponent no change.
Trump will NOT lose only state with state flag featuring the Confederate flag. But poll is just one more sign that he's slumping badly even in his best turf.
Nothing very new in that. It's merely been unfashionable for a long time. Left on the economy seems to be across the board now. Rather as Right was from Blair becoming Labour leader right up to the election of Corbyn (although EdM was groping tentatively that way). In fact this new movement could easily be described as Old old Labour.
Nothing very new in that. It's merely been unfashionable for a long time. Left on the economy seems to be across the board now. Rather as Right was from Blair becoming Labour leader right up to the election of Corbyn (although EdM was groping tentatively that way). In fact this new movement could easily be described as Old old Labour.
Though Blair was liberal culturally, the growth is in conservatives culturally.
As the article makes clear even Trump's voters are centrist economically now, it is on cultural issues they are right. Biden is also more of a cultural conservative than Hillary was though left economically.
Boris is running a centrist economically, culturally on Brexit and immigration more conservative government, Starmer is also left economically but has now accepted Brexit
Who the embassy recognises will be more important than who Johnson does, but this is fantasy territory: as Biden says, if Trump tries to stay put then it's military fireman's lift time and if he holds on to the door frame they'll prise his grip off. He'll be the most famous "loser" in recent history.
Which isn't his style, satisfying though it would be for the majority of the world's population. More likely than an attempted sit-in will be Trump getting dropped by the party or, more likely still, Trump stomping off, Janio Quadros style, before 3 November. (That said, it's slightly unfair even to call Quadros "eccentric" just because he used to hold a broom to symbolise doing something about corruption, whereas it is way beyond already proven that Trump is a nutter.) In the foreseeable possibilities column and therefore not even counting as black swans we have a Tulsa virus f*ck-up, followed by the Bolton book, followed by the Mary book, and there'll still be a month to go before the RNC.
He's a wannabe dictator and he can't even successfully order troops to protect the presidential palace the way he wants to, and he gets defied by his defence minister in public into the bargain. That spells "your number's up" in DC as clearly as it would in Manila or Caracas. Which is why I have bought all the main Republican alternatives to Trump.
Yes. Dems are seriously looking at this scenario. You've not been paying attention if you think he wouldn't try something like this.
There is also the chance he could resign just before January 20th letting Pence be President just long enough to pardon him.
But if Biden had won, why would Pence agree? A Pence pardon would be more likely before the election, early enough for Pence to run, although being best known to millions of people for standing there moon-faced while Trump embarrasses everybody he probably wouldn't want to run. Trump should leave office ASAP if a pardon is what he's seeking, but since he probably can't see beyond the end of his nose I doubt he'll grasp the logic.
"Tulsa County, which includes the city of Tulsa, tallied 89 new coronavirus cases on Monday, its one-day high since the virus’s outbreak, according to the Tulsa Area Emergency Management Agency. The number of active coronavirus cases climbed to 532 from 188 in a one-week period, a 182 percent increase; hospitalizations with Covid-19 almost doubled."
I am not surprised that Priti is from the "you will have fair trial and be hung in the morning" school.
Mirzas previously published comments mean that she cannot credibly lead a meaningful enquiry into racism. Its just lip service to attempt to leave the issue in the long grass.
It is fascinating to see another RCP alumni, this time at the heart of government.
What's quite amazing about following politics for the last decade or so, is the way people of all sides shape shift depending on their opponents behaviour, so that no one can ever be happy, and they always have to be angry. Like football supporters who can only ever give credit to their own team
When Boris promised to look after the "Red Wall" voters who backed him last December, if we knew he was going to listen to a young, northern, black man and gone with a policy that benefited the poorest in society, against his free market ideals, we would have thought it a real example of the new compassionate Conservatives installing a bit of Social Democracy.
It has happened... and the people that wanted him to act in the interests of such folk, and would hold him to account had he not are lampooning him for being weak and defeated.
Of course, had he not implemented the school meal policy, he would have remained the white supremacist, tin eared, out of touch Bullingdon Boy who has no connection with anyone outside his bubble.
What is depressing is how people will twist themselves in knots trying to defend the shambles that is Johnson's government.
Who the embassy recognises will be more important than who Johnson does, but this is fantasy territory: as Biden says, if Trump tries to stay put then it's military fireman's lift time and if he holds on to the door frame they'll prise his grip off. He'll be the most famous "loser" in recent history.
Which isn't his style, satisfying though it would be for the majority of the world's population. More likely than an attempted sit-in will be Trump getting dropped by the party or, more likely still, Trump stomping off, Janio Quadros style, before 3 November. (That said, it's slightly unfair even to call Quadros "eccentric" just because he used to hold a broom to symbolise doing something about corruption, whereas it is way beyond already proven that Trump is a nutter.) In the foreseeable possibilities column and therefore not even counting as black swans we have a Tulsa virus f*ck-up, followed by the Bolton book, followed by the Mary book, and there'll still be a month to go before the RNC.
He's a wannabe dictator and he can't even successfully order troops to protect the presidential palace the way he wants to, and he gets defied by his defence minister in public into the bargain. That spells "your number's up" in DC as clearly as it would in Manila or Caracas. Which is why I have bought all the main Republican alternatives to Trump.
Just because the scenario is exceedingly unlikely doesn’t mean it’s impossible. And even clowns can be dangerous.
Which is why some are taking it just a little bit seriously.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/when-does-trump-leave-white-house/613060/ ... Brooks, the Georgetown Law professor and former Obama official, is helping lead an informal bipartisan group called the Transition Integrity Project that is looking to ensure the election and potential transition go smoothly. More than 60 people are involved, including former governors and Cabinet secretaries. They’re planning to meet on Zoom in the next few weeks and hold “tabletop” exercises meant to think through various scenarios: a narrow Trump defeat, a clear Trump victory, and a resounding Biden victory among them. They’ll game out what might happen if Trump and his supporters use social media to intimidate the election workers tallying votes, or if he refuses to leave in the event of defeat, among other possibilities, participants told me....
Well then, we should perhaps all being pooping on the floor in front of the toilet then? That would eliminate the Covid aerosol problem... :-/
In other news for the health-crazed, oxygen is carcinogenic. Expect new govt rules to outlaw breathing.......
Toilet lid down and/or put a bit of bleach in before flushing. It is, after all, how the first SARS virus first spread (patient with diarrhoea). The individual risk likely isn’t high, but something for eg offices to consider as and when they reopen.
Most US public toilets don’t have lids, and the partitions between them have huge gaps...
Well then, we should perhaps all being pooping on the floor in front of the toilet then? That would eliminate the Covid aerosol problem... :-/
In other news for the health-crazed, oxygen is carcinogenic. Expect new govt rules to outlaw breathing.......
Toilet lid down and/or put a bit of bleach in before flushing.
Or stay out of public toilets as much as possible - that has always been my preferred approach.
(Actually, I am surprised that no raving bureaucrat has considered that for women, we come into contact with a toilet seat on every visit. I can only assume that the Toilet Regulators are male )
"An anti-lockdown protester who railed against Covid-19 closures in his home state has died of coronavirus aged 60. John McDaniel, of Marion County in Ohio, died at a hospital in Columbus last Wednesday, around a fortnight after he tested positive for Covid-19."
"An anti-lockdown protester who railed against Covid-19 closures in his home state has died of coronavirus aged 60. John McDaniel, of Marion County in Ohio, died at a hospital in Columbus last Wednesday, around a fortnight after he tested positive for Covid-19."
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A quick and graceful concession.
Even with half a brain, Biden is ahead of Trump.
How many polling stations would they need to force the closure of in heavily Democrat areas to swing the battleground states?
Then, once the day is over the chance to vote is gone. If Democrat votes weren't cast because Democrat voters were scared away from polling stations on election day then Democrat votes won't be counted. By the metrics that count under the constitution Trump will be the victor.
Worrying about what Trump might do after he loses is to ignore the greater danger of what he will do to ensure that he wins.
You've not been paying attention if you think he wouldn't try something like this.
Trump is not illegitimate. He is a deeply unpleasant and divisive man, but he is the elected president
IPs don't lie.
And with the level of gun violence/murder rates in loads of US cities, who can blame them for having a hair trigger.
https://twitter.com/mediaguido/status/1271756783846129664
So Trump & Pence would have zero federal employees - including military, Secret Service, Parks Service, etc. - to command. Any hair-brained attempt to cling to power (in the White House?, Camp David? Mar Largo?) would be a one-man band; certainly Pence would NOT be a party to such criminal-historical foolishness, and neither would Melania who has demonstrated she's got 98.46% of the brains of Clan Trumpsky.
NOTE that perhaps the most relevant instance of an incumbent clinging to the White House was Mary Todd Lincoln. As part of the trauma of the assassination of her husband, Mrs. Lincoln took an inordinate amount of time before moving out of the Executive Mansion. Which did NOT enhance her public image then or now.
Despite activist anger, the statistics tell a broadly positive story about black middle-class advancement
BY DAVID GOODHART"
https://unherd.com/2020/06/facts-vs-feelings-in-the-blm-debate/
The result is that with the exception of ICE, the security forces that Trump actually *commands* hate him as much as anybody else, both the leadership and the much of the lower ranks. He has plenty of sympathizers in regular law enforcement, but they work for the states and cities/counties not the federal government, and DC and all the major cities are controlled by Democrats.
So if Trump wants to lose the election but stay in office, he'll have to do it the traditional way, using the US Supreme Court.
The idea that Biden is breaching some kind of convention by talking about it is absurd.
https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1272879654953680896?s=09
https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/1273024637790760960?s=20
Thus poll shows that, with 9% undecided/other, Trump down by -8%, Dem opponent no change.
Trump will NOT lose only state with state flag featuring the Confederate flag. But poll is just one more sign that he's slumping badly even in his best turf.
Fat chance. Indeed, IF our Fearless Leader tried to remain El Supremo the Supremes would be leading the charge to eject him bag & baggage.
In fact this new movement could easily be described as Old old Labour.
As the article makes clear even Trump's voters are centrist economically now, it is on cultural issues they are right. Biden is also more of a cultural conservative than Hillary was though left economically.
Boris is running a centrist economically, culturally on Brexit and immigration more conservative government, Starmer is also left economically but has now accepted Brexit
https://twitter.com/leoquartermain/status/1273024530924126210?s=21
https://twitter.com/defencedailyuk/status/1272948447906275328?s=21
Which isn't his style, satisfying though it would be for the majority of the world's population. More likely than an attempted sit-in will be Trump getting dropped by the party or, more likely still, Trump stomping off, Janio Quadros style, before 3 November. (That said, it's slightly unfair even to call Quadros "eccentric" just because he used to hold a broom to symbolise doing something about corruption, whereas it is way beyond already proven that Trump is a nutter.) In the foreseeable possibilities column and therefore not even counting as black swans we have a Tulsa virus f*ck-up, followed by the Bolton book, followed by the Mary book, and there'll still be a month to go before the RNC.
He's a wannabe dictator and he can't even successfully order troops to protect the presidential palace the way he wants to, and he gets defied by his defence minister in public into the bargain. That spells "your number's up" in DC as clearly as it would in Manila or Caracas. Which is why I have bought all the main Republican alternatives to Trump.
"Tulsa County, which includes the city of Tulsa, tallied 89 new coronavirus cases on Monday, its one-day high since the virus’s outbreak, according to the Tulsa Area Emergency Management Agency. The number of active coronavirus cases climbed to 532 from 188 in a one-week period, a 182 percent increase; hospitalizations with Covid-19 almost doubled."
a bit rude. From last year....
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1272177941519257600
They are utterly shite at being a pretend army. All the skills of first time paintballers. With real weapons....
https://twitter.com/DefenceDailyUK/status/1272978445262356482
https://twitter.com/DefenceDailyUK/status/1272978528011771905
Mirzas previously published comments mean that she cannot credibly lead a meaningful enquiry into racism. Its just lip service to attempt to leave the issue in the long grass.
It is fascinating to see another RCP alumni, this time at the heart of government.
And even clowns can be dangerous.
Which is why some are taking it just a little bit seriously.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/when-does-trump-leave-white-house/613060/
... Brooks, the Georgetown Law professor and former Obama official, is helping lead an informal bipartisan group called the Transition Integrity Project that is looking to ensure the election and potential transition go smoothly. More than 60 people are involved, including former governors and Cabinet secretaries. They’re planning to meet on Zoom in the next few weeks and hold “tabletop” exercises meant to think through various scenarios: a narrow Trump defeat, a clear Trump victory, and a resounding Biden victory among them. They’ll game out what might happen if Trump and his supporters use social media to intimidate the election workers tallying votes, or if he refuses to leave in the event of defeat, among other possibilities, participants told me....
Which is why it can’t be close.
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1272909655321088001
Florida, for instance did massively better than NY:
https://twitter.com/harrysiegel/status/1272861257192923137
Whereas Boris might have staged a successful sit-in, Trump would not succeed.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1273047315121606661
In other news for the health-crazed, oxygen is carcinogenic. Expect new govt rules to outlaw breathing.......
It is, after all, how the first SARS virus first spread (patient with diarrhoea). The individual risk likely isn’t high, but something for eg offices to consider as and when they reopen.
Most US public toilets don’t have lids, and the partitions between them have huge gaps...
(Actually, I am surprised that no raving bureaucrat has considered that for women, we come into contact with a toilet seat on every visit. I can only assume that the Toilet Regulators are male
https://twitter.com/WillGSmith1/status/1273007076436893696
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/anti-lockdown-protester-branded-covid-19-political-ploy-killed-coronavirus-12588467/
escorted from the White House
I can only imagine the levels of angst, bile, & venom that another Trump victory will cause on here.
November is going to be so sweet.