Amongst all the developments during this extraordinary week the one that stands out surely is the advice by Donald Trump to inject disinfectant into people in order to combat the virus. Apparently it came just want him and hadn’t been discussed at all with other members of the the President’s advisory team.
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I'm going to quote George W Bush here: “Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions.”
The reality is that while the EU has been bad, we've been fucking atrocious too. We signed up, just a few months ago, which Johnson was already PM, to a political declaration. And we've publicly decried large chunks of that declaration. If I was an EU negotiatior, I'd be feeling like the UK was Perfidious Albion.
I'm not saying the EU is blameless (they're clearly not), but the GWB quote is apposite, we're seeing the bad things they're doing while excusing ourselves. And I'm sure in Brussels they're doing it the other way around.
It's not a very encouraging start.
The number of Covid-19 deaths in care homes was estimated by Care England to have reached 7,500 a week ago...
...A Whitehall official told the Telegraph that the policy to offload hospital patients was designed as a “stiff broom” to free up capacity in hospitals.
But care providers on Friday accused the Government of “reckless” behaviour which had “significantly” increased the number of coronavirus deaths in care homes.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1253793072737062914
Gargling jizz protects you from the virus?
All it shows is that certain sections of the media and senior civil service just don't like the guy.
I dont think the Guardian should have names the other attendees.
It’s the difference between observing, attending, and being a member of
The devolved CMOs were observers
The PM/his representatives are attendees
Neither are members (or “on”) SAGE
In another REAL election in 2019, Unionists won only ONE out of three EU Parliament seats (though of course the latter are no longer sitting!).
And why are so many people queueing outside B&Q? Is it worth risking your life for a pot of paint?
Night all.
Basic fact checking stuff.
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We said no.
They might get an umbrella... for a small fee...
Anyone got any inside info on the plan to storm Normandy that we're hearing about? Apparently some SpAd we don't like because he supported the war is on a committee somewhere advising the PM to go ahead with it. But people could die.
Older Tory voters didn't fancy pushing up daisies in support of Johnson's herd immunity.
(I hadn’t seen it before I posted my response to @DecrepitJohnL above!)
On Cummings, what I know of him I don't much like, but I am wary of much reporting of him because he does appear to be used as a bogeyman. It won't even matter now if it is true or not, it will have become a fact.
Alas, how his legacy has been trashed.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099698/
Would be useful viewing first for anyone posted there...
It is an acceptance that they were there and participated in meetings including asking questions.
It seems to go beyond the banal into... ummm... actually Cummings doing his job.
enhance their promotion prospects meets 400 years of conflict?
Christ good luck to them.
Don’t think Barnier’s thought that through....
I mentioned before the Tailwind scandal - CNN ran a story that literally proved itself to be rubbish. The story contained details that proved the story was not true.
During the investigation of what happened, it was revealed that someone had attempted to check the story. They had been pushed back by management - "Why are you trying to F&%k the story?" was the literal phrase used.
F&%king a story was apparently *well known* slang for "over checking a story" preventing its publication, at CNN. Better to put it out there, earn some ratings and retract in small print later.
So you get something that is sort of printable. You could investigate in depth - which might lead to a proper story, but also might lead to it being binned.
Or you print.
Don't you find it convenient that "the science changed" to the same science as the rest of the world, at that time?
(Although I would miss Andrew Sparrow's excellent live blogs).
Are the Guardian that desperate for ad revenue or just digging downwards ?
The Mail online is running a story tonight that in a report a year ago the government were advised to stockpile PPE. People are angry about front-line carers and medical staff catching the virus and dying due to lack of PPE and it does transpire that all that was avoidable but the government chose not to act on the advice it was given a year ago it's going to take a bit more than semantic jiggery-pokery to get out of that one.
During the 80s when the Chuckle brothers were proclaims the policy of the Ballet Box & Armalite a very substantial chunk of the Sinn Féin vote reported in onion polls that they would vote against unification. Yes, they were voting for a party engaged in trying to kill it's way to the possibility of a united Ireland. But they wanted to reject that if it came to a vote...
If the government wants it to be credible, why not publish the minutes, like the BoE MPC?
We all know that the best science is published and peer reviewed. Indeed doing so is likely to improve the quality of SAGE.
I am a bit surprised that anyone is surprised that political considerations came into the decision making.
Some specific polling on him would be interesting.
In what way is attending meetings and asking questions of other members not "sitting on the advisory group"?
It seems the very definition of it.
Seems unlikely witty and valance putting up with the former.
Indeed since March 23rd, that is exactly what has happened at 1700 each day.
This really isn't hard. Put down your blinkers and you'll see it immediately.
Can they bring Prof Sir John Curtice back for a few weeks?
HMG have clearly performed badly in a number of areas; a free press should rightly point that out.
If Cummings is not on SAGE he could always sue the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/05/rees-mogg-firm-accused-of-cashing-in-on-coronavirus-crisis
Schrödinger’s cat meets Whitehall.
Because for an apparently secret committee, a lot of people seem to be remarkably well informed about its role, who traditionally sits on it, how it operates, and generally why this story is utterly damning for the Government, and it verging on a constitutional outrage!
Correct - he should only be allowed to sit in on meetings where no harm can come to small mammals - perhaps a symposium on cacti or caterpillar management.
Typical Tories.
Trump's USA death rate per million people = 157