Oops, definitely no need for more vinegar. My biggest current concern right now is how the Indy debate is becoming more divisiveness among Scots, and this can only become more stark and nasty as the Indy Ref nears. I also hope that the Commonwealth games are a success and well attended, but I haven't invested the political capital into their success that Salmond and the SNP have done. So I can also understand why you are so touchy and intolerant of any criticism towards the outcome or success of the games.
That should cheer up Glasgow - their 25% of tickets unsold for the opening of Commonwealth Games ceremony doesn't look so bad now.
It's heartwarming that you're so desperately keen to see everything that happens in Scotland fail (outwith the walls of Newco Towers of course, though they're certainly no strangers to failure).
Weren't you taught that it was rude to butt into a conversation (particularly when you have absolutely nothing to say)? Just so I can get an insight into collective Unionist psychology, do you think it would be a good thing if the opening ceremony for the Glasgow games was 25% empty?
That should cheer up Glasgow - their 25% of tickets unsold for the opening of Commonwealth Games ceremony doesn't look so bad now.
It's heartwarming that you're so desperately keen to see everything that happens in Scotland fail (outwith the walls of Newco Towers of course, though they're certainly no strangers to failure).
Weren't you taught that it was rude to butt into a conversation (particularly when you have absolutely nothing to say)? Just so I can get an insight into collective Unionist psychology, do you think it would be a good thing if the opening ceremony for the Glasgow games was 25% empty?
TUD, as a typical unionist she would love it , prove how great London was with their £10 billion spent as opposed to us having to self fund. They love to see Scotland failing it suits their pysche.
There is a reason why Hampden will be fuller for the closing ceremony. Can your Nat mind figure it out ? Had the opening ceremony been in Hampden it would already be sold out.
That should cheer up Glasgow - their 25% of tickets unsold for the opening of Commonwealth Games ceremony doesn't look so bad now.
It's heartwarming that you're so desperately keen to see everything that happens in Scotland fail (outwith the walls of Newco Towers of course, though they're certainly no strangers to failure).
Weren't you taught that it was rude to butt into a conversation (particularly when you have absolutely nothing to say)? Just so I can get an insight into collective Unionist psychology, do you think it would be a good thing if the opening ceremony for the Glasgow games was 25% empty?
TUD, as a typical unionist she would love it , prove how great London was with their £10 billion spent as opposed to us having to self fund. They love to see Scotland failing it suits their pysche.
There is a reason why Hampden will be fuller for the closing ceremony. Can your Nat mind figure it out ? Had the opening ceremony been in Hampden it would already be sold out.
Blimey, what's with all the bile from you Scottish Nationalists? 'unionist loser', 'as a typical unionist... They love to see Scotland failing it suits their pysche', 'you have absolutely nothing to say', and that's just on this page of comments.
I know most of my posts have been about the independence referendum, but I really don't have a strong preference for one outcome or the other. It's just I'm fascinated by the amount of scorn being poured out by some of the Nationalists here, and by their reluctance to engage with the (what seem to me) substantive arguments in favour of retaining the Union.
That should cheer up Glasgow - their 25% of tickets unsold for the opening of Commonwealth Games ceremony doesn't look so bad now.
It's heartwarming that you're so desperately keen to see everything that happens in Scotland fail (outwith the walls of Newco Towers of course, though they're certainly no strangers to failure).
Weren't you taught that it was rude to butt into a conversation (particularly when you have absolutely nothing to say)? Just so I can get an insight into collective Unionist psychology, do you think it would be a good thing if the opening ceremony for the Glasgow games was 25% empty?
TUD, as a typical unionist she would love it , prove how great London was with their £10 billion spent as opposed to us having to self fund. They love to see Scotland failing it suits their pysche.
There is a reason why Hampden will be fuller for the closing ceremony. Can your Nat mind figure it out ? Had the opening ceremony been in Hampden it would already be sold out.
Sectarian prejudice?
Sorry - "government corruption" was the correct answer.
Incredible disconnect between Global Guardianista expectations and Actual Reality.
I love the way our resident Primrose Hill lefty, SeanT, adopts this goose-stepping, Sieg Heiling persona on PB (and on the DT, natch)! Keep up the good work
Twitter Paul Waugh @paulwaugh 7s Memorial organisers getting musicians to strike up a song to cover the boos for Zuma (+ local TV apparently cut to ad break) so embarrassing
chris g @chrisg0000 41s S.Africa demonstrating how not to pay tribute to the dearly departed. I'm not religious but events like this best held in Church. #Mandela
Not sure how anyone can "grieve" the death of a 95 year old bloke. He lived a long and unbelievably good life, achieved what he set out to achieve and died in peace surrounded by his family. That is the way to go, surely. I'd take that, with Keith Floyd's last supper beforehand.
Also, it's as if everyone has been waiting and preparing for this day for a long time. There is no element of shock or of suddenness. And the funeral is yet to come.
The fundamentals of politics do not change. Voters generally make their electoral choice on the basis of who they feel is best suited to be prime minister and which party they feel is the most economically competent.
No opposition has ever won an election while being behind on both economic competence and leadership. In today’s ICM poll, David Cameron and George Osborne are favoured on the economy over Ed Miliband and Ed Balls by 39% to 23%, a lead of 16%. In last week’s YouGov poll which asked about prime ministerial preference, David Cameron led Ed Miliband by 34% to 23% – a 9% gap. .. Unless headway can be made on the economy and leadership, history suggests Her Majesty’s Opposition in 2013 faces a similar fate to its predecessor in 2000.
No opposition has ever won an election while being behind on both economic competence and leadership. In today’s ICM poll, David Cameron and George Osborne are favoured on the economy over Ed Miliband and Ed Balls by 39% to 23%, a lead of 16%. In last week’s YouGov poll which asked about prime ministerial preference, David Cameron led Ed Miliband by 34% to 23% – a 9% gap. 1
Carney and Osborne seem to have their finger on the pulse.
The Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors has reported a decline in the rate of house price increases in November, concluding that the likely annual price increase for 2013 will be 3%. RICS survey respondents are also estimating a maximum of 5% annual increase for house prices over the next five years.
What appears to be driving price rises is a higher growth in buyer inquiries when compared to instructions to sell. The tension of this difference is likely to abate as prices across the country rise above their 2007 levels and sellers are no longer restrained from putting their properties on the market by the prospect of nominal losses on sales.
Early days yet but it does seem that George, Danny and Mark have the housing market under as much control as the rest of the economy.
It is lucky tim is in mourning today as this news would really dampen his spirits.
No opposition has ever won an election while being behind on both economic competence and leadership. In today’s ICM poll, David Cameron and George Osborne are favoured on the economy over Ed Miliband and Ed Balls by 39% to 23%, a lead of 16%. In last week’s YouGov poll which asked about prime ministerial preference, David Cameron led Ed Miliband by 34% to 23% – a 9% gap. 1
Is that stat true ?
Well this time it's not a Dan Hodges provided stat but I'm sure a PBred will trot along soon to sink it if it's not.... silence however will be telling...
No opposition has ever won an election while being behind on both economic competence and leadership. In today’s ICM poll, David Cameron and George Osborne are favoured on the economy over Ed Miliband and Ed Balls by 39% to 23%, a lead of 16%. In last week’s YouGov poll which asked about prime ministerial preference, David Cameron led Ed Miliband by 34% to 23% – a 9% gap. 1
Is that stat true ?
I'm researching it and may do the morning thread on it tomorrow.
It's great when people answer their own questions. Come on then, what are the substantive arguments on this thread which have not been engaged with?
I didn't mean it was specifically on this thread that the Unionist arguments had been raised but not addressed, but I was referring to the issues around currency and EU / NATO membership, primarily. The vast bulk of the Nationalist rebuttal (on PB.com I mean) of the Unionist points has been based on ridicule and bluster, ISTM (like that 'too poor, too wee, too broke to go independent' mantra). Not on a rational countering of the points raised.
Thank God the crowd had such innate respect for Madiba or this might have been a bit embarrassing.
Exuberant lot the South Africans; they celebrate the life of Mandela, rather than mourn his passing.
However, juxtaposed with the sombre and be suited great and good – it does look a little odd.
They were so exuberant they celebrated his life by walking out halfway through his memorial service?
Moipone Moleli @Iam_Moipone 53m Uhlazo!!!"@__Senz: The fact that people are leaving before the memorial service is over is even more embarassing. #MandelaMemorial"
That should cheer up Glasgow - their 25% of tickets unsold for the opening of Commonwealth Games ceremony doesn't look so bad now.
It's heartwarming that you're so desperately keen to see everything that happens in Scotland fail (outwith the walls of Newco Towers of course, though they're certainly no strangers to failure).
Weren't you taught that it was rude to butt into a conversation (particularly when you have absolutely nothing to say)? Just so I can get an insight into collective Unionist psychology, do you think it would be a good thing if the opening ceremony for the Glasgow games was 25% empty?
TUD, as a typical unionist she would love it , prove how great London was with their £10 billion spent as opposed to us having to self fund. They love to see Scotland failing it suits their pysche.
There is a reason why Hampden will be fuller for the closing ceremony. Can your Nat mind figure it out ? Had the opening ceremony been in Hampden it would already be sold out.
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IDS now up answering an Emergency Question on Universal Credit.
'Died peacefully in sleep; small, private funeral, no flowers, ashes to be collected by family'
Think it's more to do with the rain, it being a work day, and mismanagement by the SA Government than lack of affection for the great man.
But if you want to read other things into it for reasons of your own, that's your bag.
There is a reason why Hampden will be fuller for the closing ceremony. Can your Nat mind figure it out ? Had the opening ceremony been in Hampden it would already be sold out.
RIP Michael Jackson.
Secondly, was he black?
I know most of my posts have been about the independence referendum, but I really don't have a strong preference for one outcome or the other. It's just I'm fascinated by the amount of scorn being poured out by some of the Nationalists here, and by their reluctance to engage with the (what seem to me) substantive arguments in favour of retaining the Union.
Come on then, what are the substantive arguments on this thread which have not been engaged with?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100249916/england-are-losing-this-ashes-series-because-theyre-physically-scared/
Cool!
Trust you to notice.
Paul Waugh @paulwaugh 7s
Memorial organisers getting musicians to strike up a song to cover the boos for Zuma (+ local TV apparently cut to ad break) so embarrassing
chris g @chrisg0000 41s
S.Africa demonstrating how not to pay tribute to the dearly departed. I'm not religious but events like this best held in Church. #Mandela
Also, it's as if everyone has been waiting and preparing for this day for a long time. There is no element of shock or of suddenness. And the funeral is yet to come.
Why didn't they choose Hampden for the opening ceremony ?
Answers on the back of the season tickets held by 11 Glasgow Councillors.
The fundamentals of politics do not change. Voters generally make their electoral choice on the basis of who they feel is best suited to be prime minister and which party they feel is the most economically competent.
No opposition has ever won an election while being behind on both economic competence and leadership. In today’s ICM poll, David Cameron and George Osborne are favoured on the economy over Ed Miliband and Ed Balls by 39% to 23%, a lead of 16%. In last week’s YouGov poll which asked about prime ministerial preference, David Cameron led Ed Miliband by 34% to 23% – a 9% gap.
..
Unless headway can be made on the economy and leadership, history suggests Her Majesty’s Opposition in 2013 faces a similar fate to its predecessor in 2000.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2013/12/10/labours-poll-lead-is-slipping-again-heres-why/#more-17561
Labour Press Team@labourpress7m
. @Ed_Miliband coming up on @SkyNews news shortly from the #MandelaMemorial
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25289746
The Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors has reported a decline in the rate of house price increases in November, concluding that the likely annual price increase for 2013 will be 3%. RICS survey respondents are also estimating a maximum of 5% annual increase for house prices over the next five years.
What appears to be driving price rises is a higher growth in buyer inquiries when compared to instructions to sell. The tension of this difference is likely to abate as prices across the country rise above their 2007 levels and sellers are no longer restrained from putting their properties on the market by the prospect of nominal losses on sales.
Early days yet but it does seem that George, Danny and Mark have the housing market under as much control as the rest of the economy.
It is lucky tim is in mourning today as this news would really dampen his spirits.
FNB Stadium #Mandela memorial service , the crowd greets Zuma with loud booos #Headline"
twitter.com/thabsss/status/410399145338621954
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25302849
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqM0Ube0oLs
Miliband will be glad to learn something, no matter what, from the Master's Apprentice, Lol.
twitter.com/Channel4News/status/410391609906196481
Channel 4 News @Channel4News 35m
The crowd continue to boo as President Zuma takes to the stage - watch live http://bitly.com/1d6clr3 #c4news"
However, juxtaposed with the sombre and be suited great and good – it does look a little odd.
Oh...!