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  • isam said:

    Did SNP do a deal with their enemies to get a referendum?

    As if helping to put someone opposed to leaving the EU in government would be sensible for a party that want to leave... You must think UKIP are crazy... The dwindling number of Tory members mostly do I suppose!

    I am a v honest person, but I can't see where I admitted to being scared... Where was that?

    I am a member of UKIP but not just for EU withdrawal although I obviously want that.
    With you 100%.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,074
    I'd like to see a poll of current UKIP supporters asking how many voted Yes in the AV referendum.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,556
    isam said:

    Really?! Well that is impressive!

    All on one result, or building a book?

    I take it you were referring to my 4/6 LD/UKIP, the best odds on offer in the world, that RCS100 said were not generous and invented a new price (7/9?) to try me with.. oh well

    If you are interested in taking EVS about UKIP 6% or less and Ill have UKIP 9% and above with 6.01-8.99% VOID, Ill bet ye!!
    Thanks Sam it is a great offer but I won't take it up.

    Somewhat illogically as far as you're concerned I'm sure, I remain convinced that UKIP will poll <5% at GE2015!
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916

    Indeed, the Mandela joke arrest is disturbing.

    Indeed the thought police are waiting for your every written and spoken word - a bit like living under the Stasi or KGB or the Red Guard. Of course, suspicion and punishment comes only if your thoughts are deemed politically incorrect. If they are deemed to be politically correct - then insult whom you like.

    The question is: who is the authority of what is politically correct and who sets up their mimics who wish to inculcate children and the weak-minded into repeating their doctrine to intimidate others.

    N Korean brainwashers would be envious of its success.

    Be afraid, be very afraid for our future freedoms.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Bad taste and not very funny. But if that's the bar for arrest, then PB would become very empty indeed ... ;-)
    It's a symptom of the problem I was highlighting yesterday, which Nick Palmer didn't seem to get. The police should have no role in the political process.

    An elected official making a complaint to the police about an unfunny and poor taste joke is just ludicrous. And the police should also have some flexibility to decide how to address things - I am sure a 'don't be such a stupid idiot' talk would be more sensible than arresting, questioning, and submitting a file to the CPS
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Edin_Rokz said:

    Reading the comments about edumacation and the UK's slipping down the "leagues" makes me want to consider what we want to put our kids through.

    Having watched the report of the education system in South Korea where children from age 4 were put a system where they were in lessons of one kind or another for 11 hours a day to at age 14 to 16, up to 18 hours a day. The result, a group of teenagers given a copy of an GCSE maths exam, completed it in under half the time required with nearly all getting answers 100% correct.

    The kids are permanently tired, their families expect top marks all, repeat ALL the time, then the suicide rate among children is extremely high and is beginning to lead the South Koreans to question what is going on.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25193551

    Similar situation in most of Asia at the moment - do we want to copy this?

    Sounds like Michael Gove's vision of heaven (bar the suicide bit which I suspect he'd find inexplicable).
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171

    Wales raises some interesting issues, two of which challenge conventional wisdom and one which might be explained by it.

    Class -- we know education correlates with class and that Wales is more working class.

    Language -- conventional wisdom is that learning other languages should boost other subjects. If this is true, why no boost from learning Welsh?

    Test rehearsal -- it has been suggested Welsh students are simply unfamiliar with taking tests. Of course, if practice really does make perfect, or at least better, then this may provide a partial explanation for grade inflation -- more tests in schools (including targeted practice at GCSE and A-level questions) would lead to better outcomes even without easier exams or brighter pupils.

    Wales really sums up the tories electoral problems. The Welsh Labour Government is failing miserably yet Labour will be miles ahead in Wales in 2015. If the coalition was performing to the same standard as the Welsh Government Tim would be so excited he might even get out of his chair.

    Unfortunately from the tories perspective there is nothing as funny as a voter, they are happy to vote for failure.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    TOPPING said:

    Thanks Sam it is a great offer but I won't take it up.

    Somewhat illogically as far as you're concerned I'm sure, I remain convinced that UKIP will poll <5% at GE2015!</p>
    No problemo
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    currystar said:

    Wales really sums up the tories electoral problems. The Welsh Labour Government is failing miserably yet Labour will be miles ahead in Wales in 2015. If the coalition was performing to the same standard as the Welsh Government Tim would be so excited he might even get out of his chair.

    Unfortunately from the tories perspective there is nothing as funny as a voter, they are happy to vote for failure.
    The voting system in Wales really helps Labour. Even when they lost a lot of support it sprays in different directions (Plaid, Tory, Lib Dem a little bit of UKIP) but no single party can beat them.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Labour's low point in Assembly elections, 2007, saw them scrape just over 30%. 21% Tory, 21% Plaid, 12% Lib Dem. Hardly the sign of a population in love with Labour but not sure who else to back. When it comes to a GE, the mind will focus primarily on Labour vs Tory and whatever the misigivings about Eds or the reds, they'll prevail.
  • Edin_Rokz said:

    Reading the comments about edumacation and the UK's slipping down the "leagues" makes me want to consider what we want to put our kids through.

    Having watched the report of the education system in South Korea where children from age 4 were put a system where they were in lessons of one kind or another for 11 hours a day to at age 14 to 16, up to 18 hours a day. The result, a group of teenagers given a copy of an GCSE maths exam, completed it in under half the time required with nearly all getting answers 100% correct.

    The kids are permanently tired, their families expect top marks all, repeat ALL the time, then the suicide rate among children is extremely high and is beginning to lead the South Koreans to question what is going on.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25193551

    Similar situation in most of Asia at the moment - do we want to copy this?

    On the other hand, Finland starts school at age 7 (as every linux geek knows).


  • Mr Dancer, You can't have it both ways, either you have a society in which family expectations requires that their children achieve academic excellence or you do not. It doesn't matter how much you tweak the school and education system or how much money you flush in to the school pot or even how much you denigrate the teaching profession for not being able to turn the proverbial sow's ears in to genius silk purses.

    Your choice.

    Mr. Rokz, it's not a binary choice between what we have and South Korean academic excellence and high stress/suicide rates. We can improve the system without moving to 12 hour schooldays.

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