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edited April 2020 in General

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What a strange period this is and it is hard to see things in perspective. That the man leading the fight against the virus is seriously ill after getting it himself is totally shocking and makes me for one feel very uneasy and worried.

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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,217
    First orders!
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    Feels like I've walked into the wrong room.... Where's the party?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    Make mine a soda water, and plenty of ice.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Do you have any flour for sale?
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)
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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Ruby, tawny, vintage
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,049
    Goodnight campers
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    I see the Germans are being stereotypically efficient.
    https://twitter.com/jeuasommenulle/status/1247427138740944897?s=19
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,159
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Dunno. But I suspect they all fall into the class labelled 'left over from Xmas'. :smiley:
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    ABZABZ Posts: 441
    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    With extra pineapple?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    3? I thought there is 4 main categories, Tawny, Ruby, White, Rose.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,159
    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    FPT
    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    ABZ said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    With extra pineapple?
    Yes, plenty to share...
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,920
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Tawny
    Ruby
    White
    ?
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    ABZABZ Posts: 441
    Foxy said:

    ABZ said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    With extra pineapple?
    Yes, plenty to share...
    Yummy!! And, more seriously, hope life at the coal face was not too awful today and that Leics is holding up as well as can be hoped for.
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    Send a drone!
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    Great suggestion, I expect I have tinned pineapple to use up.
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    I eat a fruit salad every day (yum) always including pineapple and blueberries.

    By the way has this breathing exercise been cited yet? JK Rowling swears by it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZRHcncxE4M
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rcs1000 said:

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Tawny
    Ruby
    White
    ?
    Served with blue WKD to make a Cheeky Vimto.
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    3? I thought there is 4 main categories, Tawny, Ruby, White, Rose.
    I didn't know you could get rose Port. We've been arguing about white port, now that's an extra comication 😂
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    rcs1000 said:

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Tawny
    Ruby
    White
    ?
    Starboard
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    An oldie, but a goody in terms of treatment:

    https://twitter.com/foxinsoxuk/status/1247623425444716546?s=19
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,448
    edited April 2020
    Let's hope the peak is only 96 or so hours away, as the Telegraph reported earlier.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/07/uk-peak-coronavirus-deaths-expected-within-week-according-latest/
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    Comication
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    Complication
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42
    Not been drinking. Honest.
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    Freggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    Great suggestion, I expect I have tinned pineapple to use up.
    Crush it and use as a marinade on the tougher types of lamb or beef. It makes an excellent tenderiser and makes a nice sweet baste.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Hope that was a virtual pub quiz....
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    Yer barred!
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,217

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,561
    Can anyone tell me how to link to an individual post on PB? I can't seem to find a way to do that reliably. Thanks
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Freggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    Great suggestion, I expect I have tinned pineapple to use up.
    Crush it and use as a marinade on the tougher types of lamb or beef. It makes an excellent tenderiser and makes a nice sweet baste.
    Wow that sounds like a great suggestion thanks, I think I might try that. Do you use anything else with it to make a marinade or just it on its own?
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    edited April 2020

    Can anyone tell me how to link to an individual post on PB? I can't seem to find a way to do that reliably. Thanks

    Right-Click on the time and select "Copy link address"
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    IanB2 said:

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
    I see no qualms in drinking coffee in the evening. I used to drink Vodka Red Bull 20 years ago in the evening and nobody would bat an eyelid.

    I've been known to have a coffee right before bed.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486

    Freggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    Great suggestion, I expect I have tinned pineapple to use up.
    Crush it and use as a marinade on the tougher types of lamb or beef. It makes an excellent tenderiser and makes a nice sweet baste.
    A nice suggestion, but a bit too sophisticated for chez moi :lol:
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,793

    Do you have any flour for sale?

    Who knew Red Leicester cheese would become a luxury item...
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,936
    rcs1000 said:

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Tawny
    Ruby
    White
    ?
    Agreed
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,578
    GIN1138 said:

    Do you have any flour for sale?

    Who knew Red Leicester cheese would become a luxury item...
    We've been able to add Wensleydale to this Friday's delivery. Cheddar and Red Leicester the following week. Plus a tub of cottage cheese every week.
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    rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    NYC’s Gothamist site is reporting that deaths at home in the city are at ten times their usual rate. None are counted as COVID cases. https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    Just as the WHO has made the effects of the virus worse.

    This will make the effects on the global economy worse.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821
    It was the police

    You are not allowed in a virtual night cafe in Derbyshire.

    It's not essential!!
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    IanB2 said:

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
    It is better than booze. Alcohol at late night often leads to disturbed sleep.
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    Marcus01Marcus01 Posts: 42

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Hope that was a virtual pub quiz....
    Yes... I hate them in real life and will leave a pub when they start. But online? It was great fun.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,141
    edited April 2020
    Are we looking for good news because

    ETSY HAS ACTIVATED THE CRAFTSPEOPLE
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-07/face-masks-on-etsy-are-a-top-seller
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    The Financial Times is reporting that Prof Mauro Ferrari has resigned as the president of the European Research Council (ERC), saying he has been “extremely disappointed by the European response to Covid-19”.

    The paper reports that the EU’s top scientist, who only started a four-year term job on 1 January, was disappointed at having failed to persuade Brussels to mount a coordinated response to the pandemic. It quotes hi as saying:

    I arrived at the ERC a fervent supporter of the EU [but] the Covid-19 crisis completely changed my views, though the ideals of international collaboration I continue to support with enthusiasm.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    FPT
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:


    Disgracefully, Asda and Sainsbury’s are selling meat from Poland instead of using the meat from local farmers.

    Sorry, why is this disgraceful???
    Why aren’t they supplying meat from local farmers who are finding their normal export markets difficult to access?
    Their job is to get people food.
    I know that. And there is plenty of delicious well-reared meat on their doorstep there for the buying - and without all those carbon miles.
    Sorry but I couldn't disagree more under the circumstances.

    There is a major disruption to the entire world economy and supply chains are tearing at the seams. The supermarkets are literally struggling to ensure there is food on the shelves to ensure people can eat. They are struggling to ensure they can deliver that food if they can, so that people can eat.

    People being able to put food on their plate with the minimum amount of journeys to the supermarket is the only thing that matters right now, not country of origin.

    There is a time and a place to worry about air miles. It is not now. Not today.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Yay a letter - doctors can inject it into sick patients and those out of work can feed it to their families.

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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,903
    Air
    Sea
    Tele
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,141
    Also in good news, Tokyo seems to be making some progress clearing its pre-Olympic-cancellation backlog
    https://covid19japan.com/
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,159
    TGOHF666 said:

    Yay a letter - doctors can inject it into sick patients and those out of work can feed it to their families.

    Snarky.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    ABZ said:

    Foxy said:

    ABZ said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    With extra pineapple?
    Yes, plenty to share...
    Yummy!! And, more seriously, hope life at the coal face was not too awful today and that Leics is holding up as well as can be hoped for.
    Yes, the Leicester/Leics figures are staying fairly well below the English average.

    The NE is emerging as a new hotspot though.

    https://www.hsj.co.uk/news/coronavirus-deaths-mapped-22-trusts-see-fatalities-double-in-last-seven-days/7027212.article

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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    TGOHF666 said:

    Yay a letter - doctors can inject it into sick patients and those out of work can feed it to their families.

    Snarky.
    Is the snarkyness "hugely impressive"? Or should he go into "hiding"?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,625
    Floater said:

    The Financial Times is reporting that Prof Mauro Ferrari has resigned as the president of the European Research Council (ERC), saying he has been “extremely disappointed by the European response to Covid-19”.

    The paper reports that the EU’s top scientist, who only started a four-year term job on 1 January, was disappointed at having failed to persuade Brussels to mount a coordinated response to the pandemic. It quotes hi as saying:

    I arrived at the ERC a fervent supporter of the EU [but] the Covid-19 crisis completely changed my views, though the ideals of international collaboration I continue to support with enthusiasm.

    What an odd story. I'd have assumed one place you would not need to work hard to persuade people of the merits of international coordination was Brussels.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052

    TGOHF666 said:

    Yay a letter - doctors can inject it into sick patients and those out of work can feed it to their families.

    Snarky.
    Brown doesn’t get out of bed for anything less than a global crisis.

    Will involve global and spending and global response and spending. But global.

    And spending.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,095

    It was the police

    You are not allowed in a virtual night cafe in Derbyshire.

    It's not essential!!

    Tell them we are keeping two pixels apart at all times.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821
    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    " Shit what did he just say about Germany?"
    "Listen to the CSO"
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,903

    IanB2 said:

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
    It is better than booze. Alcohol at late night often leads to disturbed sleep.
    Whereas coffee leads to no sleep at all!
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    IanB2 said:

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
    It is better than booze. Alcohol at late night often leads to disturbed sleep.
    Whereas coffee leads to no sleep at all!
    Then you don't drink enough of it.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
    Post code lottery?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821
    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
    Post code lottery?
    It was a drone.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,223
    Talking of when things are over -

    Spare a thought for some of those who will have their careers destroyed over this crisis. I speak of the people who are breaking rules and going against the system to get things done.

    I am quite, quite sure that a number of those involved in the procurement of the new ventilators, the Nightingale hospitals etc will be attacked and destroyed. After all the apparatchiks who really run our country can't be asked to tolerate that they should have their rules broken and be embarrassed - just for the sake of saving some tens of thousands of lives.

    A particular favourite of this kind of reaction is try and brand those who did most to fix the problem with *being* the problem. The classic in this genre is the charging of police officers who fight corruption with being corrupt.

    The fixers and doers will be forced to resign, fired or demoted. The useless will give each other awards.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
    ..
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,793
    The Donald show about to begin.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,153
    edited April 2020
    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    You are both being very naughty.

    Also there is no “h” in cappuccino. “H” after “c” does not make the “c” soft in Italian.

    FPT

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:


    Disgracefully, Asda and Sainsbury’s are selling meat from Poland instead of using the meat from local farmers.

    Sorry, why is this disgraceful???
    Why aren’t they supplying meat from local farmers who are finding their normal export markets difficult to access?
    Their job is to get people food.
    I know that. And there is plenty of delicious well-reared meat on their doorstep there for the buying - and without all those carbon miles.
    Sorry but I couldn't disagree more under the circumstances.

    There is a major disruption to the entire world economy and supply chains are tearing at the seams. The supermarkets are literally struggling to ensure there is food on the shelves to ensure people can eat. They are struggling to ensure they can deliver that food if they can, so that people can eat.

    People being able to put food on their plate with the minimum amount of journeys to the supermarket is the only thing that matters right now, not country of origin.

    There is a time and a place to worry about air miles. It is not now. Not today.
    What on earth is the problem with Sainsbury’s and Asda buying meat from farmers in the U.K.?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821

    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
    Post code lottery?
    It was a drone.
    Apparently they had heard I have been droning on about testing for weeks and wanted to know if I needed help.

    Yes I know dont say it.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821
    Even the STP here is called joined up Derbyshire.

    The police will be furious
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,159
    Plans to set up a similar facility [to Nightingale] in the south east were temporarily abandoned last week after several sites were ruled out. One of these was the Kent Event Centre at Detling, near Maidstone, where army personnel were seen early last week.

    One NHS source told HSJ the site was jettisoned at the very last moment.

    https://www.hsj.co.uk/coronavirus/south-east-trusts-told-send-patients-and-staff-to-covid-surge-hospital/7027339.article
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    Talking of when things are over -

    Spare a thought for some of those who will have their careers destroyed over this crisis. I speak of the people who are breaking rules and going against the system to get things done.

    I am quite, quite sure that a number of those involved in the procurement of the new ventilators, the Nightingale hospitals etc will be attacked and destroyed. After all the apparatchiks who really run our country can't be asked to tolerate that they should have their rules broken and be embarrassed - just for the sake of saving some tens of thousands of lives.

    A particular favourite of this kind of reaction is try and brand those who did most to fix the problem with *being* the problem. The classic in this genre is the charging of police officers who fight corruption with being corrupt.

    The fixers and doers will be forced to resign, fired or demoted. The useless will give each other awards.

    sadly you are very correct there.
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981

    Freggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    Great suggestion, I expect I have tinned pineapple to use up.
    Crush it and use as a marinade on the tougher types of lamb or beef. It makes an excellent tenderiser and makes a nice sweet baste.
    Wow that sounds like a great suggestion thanks, I think I might try that. Do you use anything else with it to make a marinade or just it on its own?
    It depends on the meat and the sauce / gravy the dish will be served in, but on its own, pierce the meat with a skewer or sharp knife and work the pineapple into the meat. Juices in pineapple tins tend to be either a sugary syrup or apple juice, neither of which are any use so pour them away and put the pineapple in a pestle and crush it or chop the chunks finely and then use this on the meat.

    Leave to marinate for 2 or 3 hours and then cook.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 30,918
    FPT
    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    nico67 said:

    tyson said:

    Can someone tell me why France's figures look so bad?

    They’re including care homes in the figures . Neither the UK or Italy include those which is leading to a large under reporting of deaths .

    That makes sense

    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?
    Our local GP surgery has now set up a system so that if a patient does not pick up their prescription or misses an appointment social services and the police are informed so they can check and make sure they are okay.

    It did cause me some concern the other day when I was delivering contact detail leaflets that a number of houses had not taken in their mail for several days. Although as someone mentioned on here that could be because they are cautious about the virus being carried on mail.
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489

    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    "Listen to the CMO not the WHO"
    " Shit what did he just say about Germany?"
    "Listen to the CSO"

    Or we could / should be listening to places that got the response better than most like South Korea and Taiwan
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,961

    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    Goodnight campers

    Are you camping away from your main residence?

    Asking for the Derbyshire police.
    I managed to drive 4 miles in Derbyshire today without been arrested
    My first time out of house for 18 days.

    Someone's at the door .......
    Post code lottery?
    It was a drone.
    Did they have blank, staring eyes and were they mumbling the Tory party is great?
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    nichomar said:

    FPT
    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?

    That's routine work for us even without this damned virus.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited April 2020
    Cyclefree said:

    FPT

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:


    Disgracefully, Asda and Sainsbury’s are selling meat from Poland instead of using the meat from local farmers.

    Sorry, why is this disgraceful???
    Why aren’t they supplying meat from local farmers who are finding their normal export markets difficult to access?
    Their job is to get people food.
    I know that. And there is plenty of delicious well-reared meat on their doorstep there for the buying - and without all those carbon miles.
    Sorry but I couldn't disagree more under the circumstances.

    There is a major disruption to the entire world economy and supply chains are tearing at the seams. The supermarkets are literally struggling to ensure there is food on the shelves to ensure people can eat. They are struggling to ensure they can deliver that food if they can, so that people can eat.

    People being able to put food on their plate with the minimum amount of journeys to the supermarket is the only thing that matters right now, not country of origin.

    There is a time and a place to worry about air miles. It is not now. Not today.
    What on earth is the problem with Sainsbury’s and Asda buying meat from farmers in the U.K.?
    There is no problem, which is why they do normally. The meat I normally see in the supermarkets has a Union Flag and a Red Tractor symbol.

    But right now supply chains are falling apart and demand is skyrocketing.

    The only issue that matters is ensuring there is stock on the shelves. How do you know the farmers meat supply hasn't been tapped and they need more? You think farmers are being turned away right now?

    They need stock. Nothing else matters.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,821

    FPT

    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    nico67 said:

    tyson said:

    Can someone tell me why France's figures look so bad?

    They’re including care homes in the figures . Neither the UK or Italy include those which is leading to a large under reporting of deaths .

    That makes sense

    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?
    Our local GP surgery has now set up a system so that if a patient does not pick up their prescription or misses an appointment social services and the police are informed so they can check and make sure they are okay.

    It did cause me some concern the other day when I was delivering contact detail leaflets that a number of houses had not taken in their mail for several days. Although as someone mentioned on here that could be because they are cautious about the virus being carried on mail.
    My Mums GP is ringing her every 7 days.

    She will be 90 later this year.

    Something for us all to stay safe for.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,217
    GIN1138 said:

    Do you have any flour for sale?

    Who knew Red Leicester cheese would become a luxury item...
    Rutland Red.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Graham’s
    Warre’s
    Dow’s
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981

    IanB2 said:

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    In the evening?! Tsk.
    It is better than booze. Alcohol at late night often leads to disturbed sleep.
    Whereas coffee leads to no sleep at all!
    Decaff or high roast beans.

    The higher the roast, the less caffeine survives. A No. 2 roast is high in caffeine whereas a No. 6 (or 7) is nearly decaff by comparison.
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!
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    nico67 said:

    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!

    The express front page with the nurses rooting for him is quite the most remarkable
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    Whereas t
    nico67 said:

    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!

    The Guardian seems to have gone into headless chicken mode.

    Do they really think that the civil service hadn't drawn up or wargamed a PM being ill?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,573
    edited April 2020
    GIN1138 said:

    The Donald show about to begin.

    Edit - should have started 13 minutes ago:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wh
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    Marcus01 said:

    Resolve our pub quiz argument tonight. What are the three main types of port? (the fortified wine)

    Tawny
    Ruby
    White
    ?
    My answer was better
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,153

    Cyclefree said:

    FPT

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:


    Disgracefully, Asda and Sainsbury’s are selling meat from Poland instead of using the meat from local farmers.

    Sorry, why is this disgraceful???
    Why aren’t they supplying meat from local farmers who are finding their normal export markets difficult to access?
    Their job is to get people food.
    I know that. And there is plenty of delicious well-reared meat on their doorstep there for the buying - and without all those carbon miles.
    Sorry but I couldn't disagree more under the circumstances.

    There is a major disruption to the entire world economy and supply chains are tearing at the seams. The supermarkets are literally struggling to ensure there is food on the shelves to ensure people can eat. They are struggling to ensure they can deliver that food if they can, so that people can eat.

    People being able to put food on their plate with the minimum amount of journeys to the supermarket is the only thing that matters right now, not country of origin.

    There is a time and a place to worry about air miles. It is not now. Not today.
    What on earth is the problem with Sainsbury’s and Asda buying meat from farmers in the U.K.?
    There is no problem, which is why they do normally. The meat I normally see in the supermarkets has a Union Flag and a Red Tractor symbol.

    But right now supply chains are falling apart and demand is skyrocketing.

    The only issue that matters is ensuring there is stock on the shelves. How do you know the farmers meat supply hasn't been tapped and they need more? You think farmers are being turned away right now?

    They need stock. Nothing else matters.
    According to local farmers, those two supermarkets are not taking British meat. There may be more to the story but it does seem odd to me, especially since - as you say - we need food.

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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Are the pizzas ready yet? I ordered a large Hawaiian.

    A cappuchino please. With choc dust on top!!

    You are both being very naughty.

    Also there is no “h” in cappuccino. “H” after “c” does not make the “c” soft in Italian.

    I have no knowledge of Italian and so I compromise by spelling it like it sounds. Having said that, I do the same for English words that people insist on mispronouncing. I refuse to pronounce Cholmondoley as "Chumly" or Magdalene as "Maudlin", etc.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521

    nichomar said:

    FPT
    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?

    That's routine work for us even without this damned virus.
    More often than usual at the moment?

    All staying well at TFS towers?
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    alteregoalterego Posts: 1,100

    FPT

    nichomar said:

    tyson said:

    nico67 said:

    tyson said:

    Can someone tell me why France's figures look so bad?

    They’re including care homes in the figures . Neither the UK or Italy include those which is leading to a large under reporting of deaths .

    That makes sense

    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?
    Our local GP surgery has now set up a system so that if a patient does not pick up their prescription or misses an appointment social services and the police are informed so they can check and make sure they are okay.

    It did cause me some concern the other day when I was delivering contact detail leaflets that a number of houses had not taken in their mail for several days. Although as someone mentioned on here that could be because they are cautious about the virus being carried on mail.
    My Mums GP is ringing her every 7 days.

    She will be 90 later this year.

    Something for us all to stay safe for.
    Does he think you won't phone her?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,573
    He's on! No Dr Fauci to contradict him on his favourite anti-malarial....
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Boris is again the opening topic
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,521
    nico67 said:

    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!

    Even if he is discharged from Tommy's tommorow, he should stay off work for at least a week. Perhaps at Chequers. Let the lad run the shop for another week. Graveyards are full of indispensable men.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited April 2020
    dr_spyn said:

    Whereas t

    nico67 said:

    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!

    The Guardian seems to have gone into headless chicken mode.

    Do they really think that the civil service hadn't drawn up or wargamed a PM being ill?
    I see they also quoting that report that is clearly BS saying UK will have 60k deaths, while France, Italy etc will be more like 20k.

    It took PB about 5 mins to find the flaws and also the fact that even by the last few days data, their model is spitting out BS. Just like the Imperial one that said 7,000 deaths in the UK.

    I do wonder if any of these journalists have any experience reading academic papers and then thinking for themselves about what they are claiming. Or are they literally reading the abstract / conclusion and writing a story on it?
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    FPT

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:


    Disgracefully, Asda and Sainsbury’s are selling meat from Poland instead of using the meat from local farmers.

    Sorry, why is this disgraceful???
    Why aren’t they supplying meat from local farmers who are finding their normal export markets difficult to access?
    Their job is to get people food.
    I know that. And there is plenty of delicious well-reared meat on their doorstep there for the buying - and without all those carbon miles.
    Sorry but I couldn't disagree more under the circumstances.

    There is a major disruption to the entire world economy and supply chains are tearing at the seams. The supermarkets are literally struggling to ensure there is food on the shelves to ensure people can eat. They are struggling to ensure they can deliver that food if they can, so that people can eat.

    People being able to put food on their plate with the minimum amount of journeys to the supermarket is the only thing that matters right now, not country of origin.

    There is a time and a place to worry about air miles. It is not now. Not today.
    What on earth is the problem with Sainsbury’s and Asda buying meat from farmers in the U.K.?
    There is no problem, which is why they do normally. The meat I normally see in the supermarkets has a Union Flag and a Red Tractor symbol.

    But right now supply chains are falling apart and demand is skyrocketing.

    The only issue that matters is ensuring there is stock on the shelves. How do you know the farmers meat supply hasn't been tapped and they need more? You think farmers are being turned away right now?

    They need stock. Nothing else matters.
    According to local farmers, those two supermarkets are not taking British meat. There may be more to the story but it does seem odd to me, especially since - as you say - we need food.

    That doesn't past the 'sniff test', it simply doesn't make sense, there's probably more to that story than meets the eye.

    Every time I've been to the supermarket recently the meat shelves have been half empty and choice is very restricted on what is available. I simply don't believe quality British meat is being turned away - and while I always go for Red Tractor meat normally, right now all I want is to get into the supermarket and out again with a full trolley as quickly, safely and infrequently as I can.

    Farmed in Lancashire or Latvia, Portsmouth or Poland, Bolton or Bolivia - right now I couldn't care less so long as my family and I have something to eat. If all they have available is imports for some reason then put it on the shelves.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,625
    dr_spyn said:

    Whereas t

    nico67 said:

    Not a fan of Johnson from a political standpoint but I certainly hope he makes a quick recovery . However some of tomorrow’s front pages have gone full on hyperbole . The Sun front page has turned the PM into Mother Theresa asking a nation to pray for him!

    Do they really think that the civil service hadn't drawn up or wargamed a PM being ill?
    A lot of the coverage has been like that. It's pretty strange really, when you think of our system allowing easy transfers of responsibility, or its delegation, being one of its key advantages.
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    Foxy said:

    nichomar said:

    FPT
    Or deaths at home, god knows what will be found after with single people with no support. I hears that Madrid fire brigade are spending a lot of time on forced entry when people realize they haven’t seen their neighbour for a week. Is there any similar experiences in the UK?

    That's routine work for us even without this damned virus.
    More often than usual at the moment?

    All staying well at TFS towers?
    We gain entry for the Ambos a few times a week, so county wide it's a few times every day. It has increased a little during lockdown as families get a bit jittery. No real dramas yet....
    And yup, life is pretty calm around here at the minute, glad you're not as busy as you feared so far!
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