For somebody who is apologising after it was pointed out his officers and the magistrate had broken the law, this seems singularly unapologetic: ‘This was in circumstances where officers were properly dealing with someone who was behaving suspiciously in the station, and who staff believed to be travelling without a valid ticket. Officers were rightfully challenging her unnecessary travel.’
There’s a whole header to be written on How to Apologise and Mean It.
Just speaking to one of my colleagues in Greece, stuck there as his flight back to work here got cancelled. It looks as if he will be there until May at least. There the police patrol the streets, and arrest people who do not have an electronic permit to leave the house. Now that is a bit more totalitarian!
The biggest problem is the packs of street dogs, with nothing to eat. They killed a person a few days ago.
Holy feck. The way these bad science fiction tropes quietly infiltrate real everyday life, and are hardly even surprising when they do, is dispiriting.
He is quite OK with it. He is seeing more of his children than he has for years!
He supports the restrictions, even though there have been only 34 deaths in Thessaloniki, as there is no way that the Greek Health care system could cope with a big outbreak. It is either lockdown or disaster in his eyes.
Oh, but how dare we raise concerns, that's just nasty targeting of the police whose heart is in the right place. I know because I read about how awful the comments concerned with the law being followed were.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
Current three week period takes us to Easter, when the boffins seem to think the peak of the deaths will occur. Can easily see Government being unwilling to relax restrictions under those circumstances.
Another three weeks after that takes us to the beginning of May. Unless things go catastrophically wrong then that's probably about the right time to start loosening the shackles a little.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
I think the level of public disquiet will relate very closely to the body count situation by then
The graph shows that the peak of cases (by onset of symptoms) occurred the day after the lockdown!
The Italian lockdown started on 9th March, not the 17th as indicated on that chart. There was a lockdown in Lombardia prior to that.
Where do you see an indication on the chart that the lockdown was on the 17th?
The grey box starting at the 17th is an indication that data may be incomplete after that date, not a marker for the date of the lockdown.
I tell you something..,.conavirus is like a pornfest for asbergery blokes..tabulating charts and graphs and false negatives and false positives and flattening curves and comparisons with projections and R's greater than something or other....I'm intrigued by these posters but I understand the square root of fuck all....
Just had a neighbour knocking on my door, asking why I wasn't out clapping! About half a dozen people are standing in a group, chatting and clapping a couple of houses down. I said I'd forgotten (which I had), and gave a quick clap from the doorstep. Feel like a pariah now. Didn't have the guts to say that the small meet-up was probably a bad idea because of social distancing.
You should have held up a sign saying "keep 2 metres away please!"
And use very large letters so that it can only be read from >2m away.
How scientific is the 2 metres? When people cough or sneeze the droplets can travel 7 metres so the 2m rule is questionable effectiveness.
Who came up with it?
I remember the days when the medical officers were telling us outdoor events were OK...the 6 nations, cheltenham and so forth...
Lee Mack caught it from Cheltenham. I bet he’s not going out.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
Probably the answer is literally, yes.
Plus I find 20 years after my last office job that weekends still feel like weekends and bank holidays like bank holidays. And if its easter Christians gonna Christian and kids gonna want egg hunts.
Ah - its for total toll, not one day as the tweet suggests!
And the article points out it's the worst case scenario if the lockdown is not followed from an anonymous source. Ok if you want to scare people but the headline is borderline dishonest. I do not think the Mirror is being responsible here.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
I can see a lot of people wanting to have a house party or barbecue by that date.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
Current three week period takes us to Easter, when the boffins seem to think the peak of the deaths will occur. Can easily see Government being unwilling to relax restrictions under those circumstances.
Another three weeks after that takes us to the beginning of May. Unless things go catastrophically wrong then that's probably about the right time to start loosening the shackles a little.
It will be 7 weeks of lockdown, give or take, to that weekend.
People are chafing at the bit now, throw in likely good weather and, as you say, the possibility of it feeling like the worst is over.
Ah - its for total toll, not one day as the tweet suggests!
And the article points out it's the worst case scenario if the lockdown is not followed from an anonymous source. Ok if you want to scare people but the headline is borderline dishonest. I do not think the Mirror is being responsible here.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
Probably the answer is literally, yes.
Plus I find 20 years after my last office job that weekends still feel like weekends and bank holidays like bank holidays. And if its easter Christians gonna Christian and kids gonna want egg hunts.
Well tough shit, do it in September, it’s not asking a lot to be honest although some people think it’s the end of the world.
Wow. But who knows what's around the corner. If Theresa can lose a massive poll lead overnight owing to an obscure manifesto commitment on social care (supposedly) then it could all go horribly wrong and horribly quickly for Boris over the Corona crisis.
Oh it won't last. He's a divisive figure and it's a divisive government. But still, quite remarkable.
Oh, but how dare we raise concerns, that's just nasty targeting of the police whose heart is in the right place. I know because I read about how awful the comments concerned with the law being followed were.
Apparently wanting people - including the police - to follow the law is going on a crusade, or something.
He really is an absolute arsehole of a politician.
I agree with him. What does that make me?
I expect the reason he is speaking out is because his successor has agreed a deal with the government to give them free reign in return for cobra representation and inside briefings.
Wow. But who knows what's around the corner. If Theresa can lose a massive poll lead overnight owing to an obscure manifesto commitment on social care (supposedly) then it could all go horribly wrong and horribly quickly for Boris over the Corona crisis.
Oh it won't last. He's a divisive figure and it's a divisive government. But still, quite remarkable.
... yeah and he'll never win London twice or be PM... Oh..wait a minute...the more people get Boris wrong the better he seems to do.
Oh, but how dare we raise concerns, that's just nasty targeting of the police whose heart is in the right place. I know because I read about how awful the comments concerned with the law being followed were.
Apparently wanting people - including the police - to follow the law is going on a crusade, or something.
To be clear, I get if people think it was being a bit harsh given the circumstances, though I disagree. It was the suggestion it's awful and nasty I don't understand at all, even considering people aired some gripes about the police as well.
He really is an absolute arsehole of a politician.
I agree with him. What does that make me?
I expect the reason he is speaking out is because his successor has agreed a deal with the government to give them free reign in return for cobra representation and inside briefings.
free rein, please (the thing you steer a horse with).
Substantively, can you see him defiling himself by making a deal with the tories, even by proxy and even when the proxy is not his preferred successor? I can't.
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
Current three week period takes us to Easter, when the boffins seem to think the peak of the deaths will occur. Can easily see Government being unwilling to relax restrictions under those circumstances.
Another three weeks after that takes us to the beginning of May. Unless things go catastrophically wrong then that's probably about the right time to start loosening the shackles a little.
It will be 7 weeks of lockdown, give or take, to that weekend.
People are chafing at the bit now, throw in likely good weather and, as you say, the possibility of it feeling like the worst is over.
I think seeing what happens in Italy / Spain will help focus minds though.
Starmer needs to take a back seat and work out a plan for a post-Corona world then take us all by surprise with it.
Now I'll say something disgusting: Why does testing the NHS MATTER? They're going to get sick anyway, and you don't have 100% of staff working at any one time. Surely the worst position to be in is to be a nurse who's immune?
He really is an absolute arsehole of a politician.
I agree with him. What does that make me?
I expect the reason he is speaking out is because his successor has agreed a deal with the government to give them free reign in return for cobra representation and inside briefings.
I can be gratuitously rude about JC without guilt I'm afraid - you I don't know maybe your brain is scrambled
For somebody who is apologising after it was pointed out his officers and the magistrate had broken the law, this seems singularly unapologetic: ‘This was in circumstances where officers were properly dealing with someone who was behaving suspiciously in the station, and who staff believed to be travelling without a valid ticket. Officers were rightfully challenging her unnecessary travel.’
There’s a whole header to be written on How to Apologise and Mean It.
Just speaking to one of my colleagues in Greece, stuck there as his flight back to work here got cancelled. It looks as if he will be there until May at least. There the police patrol the streets, and arrest people who do not have an electronic permit to leave the house. Now that is a bit more totalitarian!
The biggest problem is the packs of street dogs, with nothing to eat. They killed a person a few days ago.
Yikes
I remember when we would joke about “the end times” on PB, and a space was always reserved for wolves loping down Oxford Street, devouring the infirm...
Now it looms into view
Pleased our goats have plenty of hedges to go at here in Llandudno
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
Current three week period takes us to Easter, when the boffins seem to think the peak of the deaths will occur. Can easily see Government being unwilling to relax restrictions under those circumstances.
Another three weeks after that takes us to the beginning of May. Unless things go catastrophically wrong then that's probably about the right time to start loosening the shackles a little.
It will be 7 weeks of lockdown, give or take, to that weekend.
People are chafing at the bit now, throw in likely good weather and, as you say, the possibility of it feeling like the worst is over.
I think seeing what happens in Italy / Spain will help focus minds though.
at that point, they'll be 2 weeks further ahead, won't they?
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
I can see a lot of people wanting to have a house party or barbecue by that date.
Do it sensibly, not too many people, only neighbours who can walk to the venue don’t let Facebook know! And that should be fine as long as you still keep 2m apart. And nobody is self isolating
Wow. But who knows what's around the corner. If Theresa can lose a massive poll lead overnight owing to an obscure manifesto commitment on social care (supposedly) then it could all go horribly wrong and horribly quickly for Boris over the Corona crisis.
Oh it won't last. He's a divisive figure and it's a divisive government. But still, quite remarkable.
... yeah and he'll never win London twice or be PM... Oh..wait a minute...the more people get Boris wrong the better he seems to do.
Eh? That was the point - some people hate him. I didn't say he wasn't a winner, he's proven that he is. Divisive doesn't mean you cannot win. This was a point about a positive governmental poll rating, it's literally happened one in the last 10 years, I don't think it is slur on Boris to suggest obviously that will not last.
Starmer needs to take a back seat and work out a plan for a post-Corona world then take us all by surprise with it.
Now I'll say something disgusting: Why does testing the NHS MATTER? They're going to get sick anyway, and you don't have 100% of staff working at any one time. Surely the worst position to be in is to be a nurse who's immune?
Foxy...I'll leave this one for you to sort out....
Just think what it will be like, when this is over, when we have that *first* drink at the pub, the *first* lunch in a restaurant, that *first* get together with loads of friends. We will maybe cry. We will certainly not forget it.
On the day this finally ends, I intend to spend an evening in a different pub for the next seven days.
I'm going to start boo-ing journalists every Tuesday at 8pm. They could be doing something functional, like providing a centre for information for what to do about Covid, and Covid-adjacent things. People don't know how to get the funds for self-employed people, they don't know what to do about their energy supplier, they don't know what to do if they need medicine but can't get out. That's their job in the time of a national crisis, not bloody hashtags about #torygenocide, or panicking because the schools might close on Friday when for some reason they want it done on Wednesday, as if there's no reason for it to be a Friday.
Starmer needs to take a back seat and work out a plan for a post-Corona world then take us all by surprise with it.
Now I'll say something disgusting: Why does testing the NHS MATTER? They're going to get sick anyway, and you don't have 100% of staff working at any one time. Surely the worst position to be in is to be a nurse who's immune?
Foxy...I'll leave this one for you to sort out....
He really is an absolute arsehole of a politician.
I agree with him. What does that make me?
I expect the reason he is speaking out is because his successor has agreed a deal with the government to give them free reign in return for cobra representation and inside briefings.
free rein, please (the thing you steer a horse with).
Substantively, can you see him defiling himself by making a deal with the tories, even by proxy and even when the proxy is not his preferred successor? I can't.
I think it would be physically beyond him. I'm not sure why he has spoken out in advance of there being any such offer really. Good idea or not seems like it could wait until one is made.
I'm going to start boo-ing journalists every Tuesday at 8pm. They could be doing something functional, like providing a centre for information for what to do about Covid, and Covid-adjacent things. People don't know how to get the funds for self-employed people, they don't know what to do about their energy supplier, they don't know what to do if they need medicine but can't get out. That's their job in the time of a national crisis, not bloody hashtags about #torygenocide, or panicking because the schools might close on Friday when for some reason they want it done on Wednesday, as if there's no reason for it to be a Friday.
#boojournalism
That is not journalists' job; that is the government's job.
Just think what it will be like, when this is over, when we have that *first* drink at the pub, the *first* lunch in a restaurant, that *first* get together with loads of friends. We will maybe cry. We will certainly not forget it.
On the day this finally ends, I intend to spend an evening in a different pub for the next seven days.
Probably unwise. Going to too many is an open invite to the first hotspot of a new wave.
It will not be a generalised "all clear" but a gradual one. Perhaps pubs and restaurants opening alternate tables, and no more than 4 in a group, etc.
Just think what it will be like, when this is over, when we have that *first* drink at the pub, the *first* lunch in a restaurant, that *first* get together with loads of friends. We will maybe cry. We will certainly not forget it.
Its going to be hard getting reservations for when that happens and the pubs are going to packed.
Starmer needs to take a back seat and work out a plan for a post-Corona world then take us all by surprise with it.
Now I'll say something disgusting: Why does testing the NHS MATTER? They're going to get sick anyway, and you don't have 100% of staff working at any one time. Surely the worst position to be in is to be a nurse who's immune?
Foxy...I'll leave this one for you to sort out....
Good plan ;-) Hope your nephews are doing okay!
Thanks....I caught up with up with a nephew just now who told me that he was tempted to run up and down the street in his scrubs as the clapping began...
I noted Casino's eye rolling....but the clapping helps even if most NHS staff take the piss out of it....the staff are really quite proud.....
His survival tip is to project to NHS staff that you want to live in the most positive way possible considering you are seriously ill.....with countless patients it is just human nature that NHS staff cling to cases they make an emotional connection to...
Just think what it will be like, when this is over, when we have that *first* drink at the pub, the *first* lunch in a restaurant, that *first* get together with loads of friends. We will maybe cry. We will certainly not forget it.
Its going to be hard getting reservations for when that happens and the pubs are going to packed.
You are wrong...we will emerge from this like hibernating bears...slowly, cautiously and warily....
I'm going to start boo-ing journalists every Tuesday at 8pm. They could be doing something functional, like providing a centre for information for what to do about Covid, and Covid-adjacent things. People don't know how to get the funds for self-employed people, they don't know what to do about their energy supplier, they don't know what to do if they need medicine but can't get out. That's their job in the time of a national crisis, not bloody hashtags about #torygenocide, or panicking because the schools might close on Friday when for some reason they want it done on Wednesday, as if there's no reason for it to be a Friday.
#boojournalism
That is not journalists' job; that is the government's job.
Journalists do not have a duty to inform in a time of international crisis? OK!
Spain is to extend the lockdown to April 26. The pain is going to go on a lot longer than people expect. On current trends that would leave the UK in the same boat at least a week longer. I'd love to say with confidence that that would be it but the odds are that it will continue to be extended.
discussion with mates the other night found us all broadly agreeing that we couldn't see the lockdown being maintained over the Bank Holiday Weekend of Friday 8th May.
Even if its still in place, I think you will see mass disobedience that weekend.
But what difference will it being a bank holiday make? Most people are on permanent bank holidays, the pubs are shut why would anyone want to cause mass disobedience? What are they going to do, organize street parties?
I can see a lot of people wanting to have a house party or barbecue by that date.
As long as they have their hands dipped in indelible ink so that they can be denied treatment if they get ill, then why not? It’s a good chance to rid us of the arrogant buggers who think they have no responsibility to anyone but themself.
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He supports the restrictions, even though there have been only 34 deaths in Thessaloniki, as there is no way that the Greek Health care system could cope with a big outbreak. It is either lockdown or disaster in his eyes.
Another three weeks after that takes us to the beginning of May. Unless things go catastrophically wrong then that's probably about the right time to start loosening the shackles a little.
I tell you something..,.conavirus is like a pornfest for asbergery blokes..tabulating charts and graphs and false negatives and false positives and flattening curves and comparisons with projections and R's greater than something or other....I'm intrigued by these posters but I understand the square root of fuck all....
Plus I find 20 years after my last office job that weekends still feel like weekends and bank holidays like bank holidays. And if its easter Christians gonna Christian and kids gonna want egg hunts.
People are chafing at the bit now, throw in likely good weather and, as you say, the possibility of it feeling like the worst is over.
Shite innumerate journalism.
I expect the reason he is speaking out is because his successor has agreed a deal with the government to give them free reign in return for cobra representation and inside briefings.
https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1245783369029427201
Substantively, can you see him defiling himself by making a deal with the tories, even by proxy and even when the proxy is not his preferred successor? I can't.
Now I'll say something disgusting: Why does testing the NHS MATTER? They're going to get sick anyway, and you don't have 100% of staff working at any one time. Surely the worst position to be in is to be a nurse who's immune?
Give me strength.
It states it's a worse case scenario and that we are not on course for it. But never let that spoil a good story
#boojournalism
The night bar is open
It will not be a generalised "all clear" but a gradual one. Perhaps pubs and restaurants opening alternate tables, and no more than 4 in a group, etc.
I noted Casino's eye rolling....but the clapping helps even if most NHS staff take the piss out of it....the staff are really quite proud.....
His survival tip is to project to NHS staff that you want to live in the most positive way possible considering you are seriously ill.....with countless patients it is just human nature that NHS staff cling to cases they make an emotional connection to...