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  • Quincel said:
    Crazy, isn't it? Even Tulsi Gabbard finished second in American Samoa.
  • Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited March 2020
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    They'll protest anyway, everybody will shout USA at them
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,602
    Sanders can't afford to lose California.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,148
    Quincel said:
    Had Warren dropped out Sanders would likely have won Massachusetts, shows how Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out helped Biden
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    His rhetoric is so fucking repetitive and boring, it's unbelievable.
  • Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Dismal speech, no class. Trumpian.
  • Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    In primary after primary, Sanders is getting far fewer voters than in 2016.

    That is the measure of his success.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:
    Had Warren dropped out Sanders would likely have won Massachusetts, shows how Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out helped Biden
    Indeed. The contrast between Minn and Mass is particularly stark.
  • Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
    He's just reciting the greatest hits of his career - "voted against the Iraq war", "voted against the bankruptcy bill", "voted against cuts to social security" and then when he gets a cheer says "and the other senator in this race didn't" and waits for the crowd to boo. Trump owes him a beer.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,148
    edited March 2020

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Dismal speech, no class. Trumpian.
    It is now going to get really nasty and a vicious battle potentially all the way to the convention, Sanders will either get the nomination or take the Democratic party down with him this campaign
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    In primary after primary, Sanders is getting far fewer voters than in 2016.

    That is the measure of his success.
    Though that was a two-way contest.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,148
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    In primary after primary, Sanders is getting far fewer voters than in 2016.

    That is the measure of his success.
    There were only 2 candidates in 2016, Sanders is also likely to win the 2 biggest states in the nation tonight both of which Hillary won in 2016
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited March 2020

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
    He's just reciting the greatest hits of his career - "voted against the Iraq war", "voted against the bankruptcy bill", "voted against cuts to social security" and then when he gets a cheer says "and the other senator in this race didn't" and waits for the crowd to boo. Trump owes him a beer.
    I can't see that that's much different from what BIden and others have said about Sanders, really - it's not Trump, much more indirect.

  • Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
    He's just reciting the greatest hits of his career - "voted against the Iraq war", "voted against the bankruptcy bill", "voted against cuts to social security" and then when he gets a cheer says "and the other senator in this race didn't" and waits for the crowd to boo. Trump owes him a beer.
    I can't see that that's much different from what BIden and others have said about Sanders, really - it's not Trump, much more indirect.

    The style of delivery was the Trumpian aspect - call and response, looking for boos, it was trash.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    In primary after primary, Sanders is getting far fewer voters than in 2016.

    That is the measure of his success.
    Biden is getting fewer votes than Clinton got in 2016, you think both him and Sanders are having a poor night?
  • Gabs3Gabs3 Posts: 836
    Quincel said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Quincel said:

    Chameleon said:

    Chameleon said:

    Apparently Bloomberg will be 'reassessing' his campaign tomorrow.

    His ego is too big. He's hitting 15%+ in enough areas (everywhere?) to have a lot of leverage in a contested convention. He'll drop out in a few Tuesdays time.
    Does he have leverage though? What's he going to do if Biden won't give him what he wants, give the nomination to Bernie???
    Holding no side into the convention is a credible position. He'll have 10-20% of delegates, which is enough to enact concessions.
    I'm not convinced he would get to the convention with that many delegates. He'll barely be in that range today, and surely his voters will fade away in future primaries given these results?
    If it goes to a contested convention expect the bloodiest Democratic convention since 1968, especially if Sanders does not get it the left will then go berserk and the Democrats will enter a civil war
    That depends how it's contested. There's a fraction of the left that's going to go berserk no matter what happens but if Bernie has fewer delegates than Biden, it won't matter that much if Biden is a little bit short of 50%.
    It will because the left will protest across the convention and it will be chaos
    In primary after primary, Sanders is getting far fewer voters than in 2016.

    That is the measure of his success.
    Biden is getting fewer votes than Clinton got in 2016, you think both him and Sanders are having a poor night?
    Is he? Virginia turnout is massively higher. As was the case in South Carolina. It seems like the black vote is showing up, which is great news for November.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited March 2020

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
    He's just reciting the greatest hits of his career - "voted against the Iraq war", "voted against the bankruptcy bill", "voted against cuts to social security" and then when he gets a cheer says "and the other senator in this race didn't" and waits for the crowd to boo. Trump owes him a beer.
    I can't see that that's much different from what BIden and others have said about Sanders, really - it's not Trump, much more indirect.

    The style of delivery was the Trumpian aspect - call and response, looking for boos, it was trash.
    I think the comparisons between Trump and Sanders are over-egged, personally. Sanders is a 19th and early 20th century-style preacher populist, Trump is a much more twenty-first century creature.
  • Gabs3Gabs3 Posts: 836

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Yesterday he described Biden as a good guy. What's he saying today ?
    He's just reciting the greatest hits of his career - "voted against the Iraq war", "voted against the bankruptcy bill", "voted against cuts to social security" and then when he gets a cheer says "and the other senator in this race didn't" and waits for the crowd to boo. Trump owes him a beer.
    He is deliberately not using Biden's name so Trump can't put it in attack ads.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,708
    Biden just got his wife and sister mixed up!!!
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    Biden's speech isn't too bad. I really think he's improved at debates and speeches the last month or so, a lot sharper. Still not without his gaffes, but it is Joe Biden.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,712
    Did Biden just say "I promise you cures for cancer"?
  • Some Vegans have stormed the stage at the Biden speech. Bizarre.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    New York Times very close to making Sanders the favourite in Texas again. Gonna be close either way, but the narrative benefit of winning it is undeniable.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited March 2020
    HYUFD said:
    Sanders is surprisingly popular in Utah, which again points to his much longer lineage in populism than Trump - there he seems to be perceived by some as a community-values, quasi-religious figure against Trump's cynicism. Romney was the only Republican to vote for impeachment.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,602
    edited March 2020
    New York Times forecasts:

    Massachusetts: 67% chance of a Biden win.
    Maine: 62% chance of a Biden win.
    Texas: 52% chance of a Biden win.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited March 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    New York Times forecasts:

    Massachusetts: 67% chance of a Biden win.
    Maine: 62% chance of a Biden win.
    Texas: 52% chance of a Biden win.

    Very bad night for Sanders if so.

    If she doesn't back out, there's going to be some truth in this tweet :

    https://twitter.com/_MikeMoss/status/1235051904704688128
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556

    Andy_JS said:

    New York Times forecasts:

    Massachusetts: 67% chance of a Biden win.
    Maine: 62% chance of a Biden win.
    Texas: 52% chance of a Biden win.

    Very bad night for Sanders if so.

    If she doesn't back out, there's going to be some truth in this tweet :

    https://twitter.com/_MikeMoss/status/1235051904704688128
    Strange how electorate after electorate keeps being offered socialism on a plate, and somehow mysteriously keeps turning the prospect down... :wink:
  • Andy_JS said:

    New York Times forecasts:

    Massachusetts: 67% chance of a Biden win.
    Maine: 62% chance of a Biden win.
    Texas: 52% chance of a Biden win.

    Very bad night for Sanders if so.

    If she doesn't back out, there's going to be some truth in this tweet :

    https://twitter.com/_MikeMoss/status/1235051904704688128
    Strange how electorate after electorate keeps being offered socialism on a plate, and somehow mysteriously keeps turning the prospect down... :wink:
    Not too strange. Individualism is very deeply ingrained since the 1980's. The under-40s are going to have to be as radically different as leftwingers claim them to be for that to significantly change.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,623
    So last week we had Ash Wednesday following Shrove Tuesday.

    What do we call the day after Super Tuesday?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,623
    Looking increasingly like a two horse race. Or, more accurately, a two geriatric man race.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,623
    edited March 2020
    Betfair under-round update. Six layable candidates still.

    Biden 1.40 1.41 (clear fav, but too short?)
    Sanders 5.0 5.3
    Clinton H 44 48 (yes, Hillary is now third favourite!)
    Bloomberg 60 80 (f*** Bloomberg!)
    Warren 140 180
    Obama M 220 280 (she’s definitely not running either!)

    Back prices for these six sum to 96.6%, still under-round but much better than it has been!
    Market rules say it settles on the candidate nominated by the Dem convention, not who eventually fights for the Presidential election, if it were to be different.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,486
    HYUFD said:

    Sanders on the verge of a "Dean Scream" live now.

    Ugly attacks on Biden as well, getting the crowd to boo him.

    Dismal speech, no class. Trumpian.
    It is now going to get really nasty and a vicious battle potentially all the way to the convention, Sanders will either get the nomination or take the Democratic party down with him this campaign
    Something of a reverse ferret by you. You have been ramping Sanders as a shoe-in. Looks like you are going to be wrong, so you resort to hyperbole.

    I know it’s hard for Trumptons like you, but really, there is no need for it.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    In Texas, people have been standing in line for 6 hours after the polls were supposed to close.
  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,453

    In Texas, people have been standing in line for 6 hours after the polls were supposed to close.

    Disgusting. Republicans closed 750 voting places after the voting rights act was gutted by the supreme court.
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