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Cummings is Bannon, and will probably go the same way.
A good campaigning mind, but nowhere near as clever as he thinks, prone to gross over-reach, and totally lacking in the caution and discipline needed to be involved in governing.
At the moment, Johnson can afford bad headlines, and has political capital to burn. But that won't last forever, and then Cummings is finished.
If the aim is really to harness talent possessed by people who don't fit the stereotypical SPAD mould, questionable social media posts are surely to be expected - at the very least.
If the aim is really to harness talent possessed by people who don't fit the stereotypical SPAD mould, questionable social media posts are surely to be expected - at the very least.
Cummings is Bannon, and will probably go the same way.
A good campaigning mind, but nowhere near as clever as he thinks, prone to gross over-reach, and totally lacking in the caution and discipline needed to be involved in governing.
At the moment, Johnson can afford bad headlines, and has political capital to burn. But that won't last forever, and then Cummings is finished.
I've come round to the idea that Cummings might be quite bright. However it's quite clear that he wants to be seen as even brighter than that - he's not going to be able to carry that.
The noise may become too much, and the delivery too little.
The idea that Cummings is espousing though is 100% right - the government departments are crap, the arrangements of our state are questionable, and Johnny Everyone needs a bit of a kick.
I make no accusations against Sunak personally. But the role of TCI, one other fund and a well known US bank, along with various other funds with close links to RBS, has never been properly or fully told. It does not reflect well on them, the banks involved or the relevant regulatory authorities
Some might consider that some of what went on was potentially criminal.
I make no accusations against Sunak personally. But the role of TCI, one other fund and a well known US bank, along with various other funds with close links to RBS, has never been properly or fully told. It does not reflect well on them, the banks involved or the relevant regulatory authorities
Some might consider that some of what went on was potentially criminal.
Like the bread from the Panasonic machine I just treated myself to as a belated Christmas treat, I suspect that he will make excellent toast very quickly...
The idea that Cummings is espousing though is 100% right - the government departments are crap, the arrangements of our state are questionable, and Johnny Everyone needs a bit of a kick.
And if a weirdo or misfit suggests that kick should involve a wall, a blindfold and an anti-aircraft gun?
After all, FGM, eugenics and killing the odd child are, apparently, no bar to the policy unit. Executing some civil service deadwood should only be a mental warm-up for such giant intelllects.
I make no accusations against Sunak personally. But the role of TCI, one other fund and a well known US bank, along with various other funds with close links to RBS, has never been properly or fully told. It does not reflect well on them, the banks involved or the relevant regulatory authorities
Some might consider that some of what went on was potentially criminal.
This is a Westminster bubble story. Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
I saw that "savethebbc" was trending on twitter and expected to see 99% of people saying disgrace, Tory bastards etc etc etc. In fact, it was far more balanced, with a huge number of accounts with what looked like younger people (from their profile pics) saying I don't understand why not just have ads, why do I have to pay for something I don't really use.
In addition to all the discussion from last night, another thing that has changed is that especially the young have grown up with all the services they use being funded by ads e.g. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
I make no accusations against Sunak personally. But the role of TCI, one other fund and a well known US bank, along with various other funds with close links to RBS, has never been properly or fully told. It does not reflect well on them, the banks involved or the relevant regulatory authorities
Some might consider that some of what went on was potentially criminal.
I could not possibly comment.
You just did....
FrancisUrquhart should have made that comment
On this matter, I definitely couldn't possible comment...cos I don't know anything about it.
This is a Westminster bubble story. Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
I saw that "savethebbc" was trending on twitter and expected to see 99% of people saying disgrace, Tory bastards etc etc etc. In fact, it was far more balanced, with a huge number of accounts with what looked like younger people (from their profile pics) saying I don't understand why not just have ads, why do I have to pay for something I don't really use.
Boris (Cummings) seems intent to take on the BBC, the Treasury, and the judiciary.
“The left” have wasted the last decade wanking on about trans rights and forgot what it means to maintain a liberal democracy.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
The idea that Cummings is espousing though is 100% right - the government departments are crap, the arrangements of our state are questionable, and Johnny Everyone needs a bit of a kick.
And if a weirdo or misfit suggests that kick should involve a wall, a blindfold and an anti-aircraft gun?
After all, FGM, eugenics and killing the odd child are, apparently, no bar to the policy unit. Executing some civil service deadwood should only be a mental warm-up for such giant intelllects.
We vote on this, and what seems bad to you will seem bad to many. Thus it won't happen. We also have the nanny HoL - although that is an increasingly pointless institution.
I'm completely happy to see a million people die for the greater good, but I'm sure that the evidence available will never be enough for me to find it a greater good.
This is a Westminster bubble story. Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
I saw that "savethebbc" was trending on twitter and expected to see 99% of people saying disgrace, Tory bastards etc etc etc. In fact, it was far more balanced, with a huge number of accounts with what looked like younger people (from their profile pics) saying I don't understand why not just have ads, why do I have to pay for something I don't really use.
In addition to all the discussion from last night, another thing that has changed is that especially the young have grown up with all the services they use being funded by ads e.g. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
The BBC is a bloated monolith failing to compete within a highly competitive and already private sector.
We aren't talking about privatisation of the media here, the BBC is not the be all and end all, the sector is already private.
That was actually a really good wicket for England, he was so out of touch he was just making it harder to chase down the total. When you have Stokes and Ali to come.
If the aim is really to harness talent possessed by people who don't fit the stereotypical SPAD mould, questionable social media posts are surely to be expected - at the very least.
If they were that "talented" they would know how to conduct themselves on social media.
That was actually a really good wicket for England, he was so out of touch he was just making it harder to chase down the total. When you have Stokes and Ali to come.
If the aim is really to harness talent possessed by people who don't fit the stereotypical SPAD mould, questionable social media posts are surely to be expected - at the very least.
If they were that "talented" they would know how to conduct themselves on social media.
Not necessarily.
The problem with this guy is not that his thoughts are inflammatory. It’s that they are inflammatory and gormless. All the media training in the world won’t make him less gormless.
I have some knowledge of the Triratna. Putting aside the dodgy activities of the founder I am not aware of anything untoward in the organisation today.
The funny thing is, para sports often get compared with female sports.
I have heard that comparison literally twice. From this chap. And now from you.
Just to clarify, the comparison is usually made in reverse. That is, para sports are put on the same level as female sports. In my opinion that’s not right because the number of eligible participants in female sports is greater. I just find it amusing that this knob is of the same opinion as those who think we should compare those who achieve success in female sports.
This is a Westminster bubble story. Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
I saw that "savethebbc" was trending on twitter and expected to see 99% of people saying disgrace, Tory bastards etc etc etc. In fact, it was far more balanced, with a huge number of accounts with what looked like younger people (from their profile pics) saying I don't understand why not just have ads, why do I have to pay for something I don't really use.
In addition to all the discussion from last night, another thing that has changed is that especially the young have grown up with all the services they use being funded by ads e.g. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
I like the BBC on the whole, even though I hardly watch TV, I do like the radio, BBC podcasts, and the BBC website. That said, a licence for a broadcast service for television receivers and radio, that was created when the BBC had a complete monopoly is clearly at odds with a world where people don't watch broadcasts, don't use TVs to view programmes, and the BBC holds an ever diminishing part of the audience share.
For young people in particular there is no quesiton that the whole premise of the BBC and licence fee is irrelevant to most of them. The world has already changed and the government and parliament can only put off dealing with that change for so long.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
Can't say I remember this warning (!) but OK, perhaps I missed it. So imagine if we both win the away game. We'll have publicly owned trains but women won't be allowed on without a chaperone.
Just to clarify, the comparison is usually made in reverse. That is, para sports are put on the same level as female sports. In my opinion that’s not right because the number of eligible participants in female sports is greater. I just find it amusing that this knob is of the same opinion as those who think we should compare those who achieve success in female sports.
Sorry, you mean which of the following is common -
(i) Women complaining that female sports are ranked down with para sports.
(ii) Paras complaining that para sports are ranked down with female sports.
Just to clarify, the comparison is usually made in reverse. That is, para sports are put on the same level as female sports. In my opinion that’s not right because the number of eligible participants in female sports is greater. I just find it amusing that this knob is of the same opinion as those who think we should compare those who achieve success in female sports.
Sorry, you mean which of the following is common -
(i) Women complaining that female sports are ranked down with para sports.
(ii) Paras complaining that para sports are ranked down with female sports.
Or am I still missing it?
What I mean is, the para movement tries to big up the significance of para sports by saying it’s no different to female sports (I.e. the participants are limited by something - gender or disability).
The EU, the BBC, the judiciary, parliamentary scrutiny, the HoL, and the Treasury - none are immune to reasonable criticism.
It is clear now though that Boris (Cummings) intends to castrate each in turn.
What purpose is intended? In what way is this conservative?
What's special about being small-c conservative?
Dunno. What’s special about liberal democracy?
Its the best way of ensuring people have the freedom to control their own lives and what happens with their future. People should be free to run their own lives and government should only happen with the consent of the governed. It allows the free flow of ideas and allows the safe removal of tired and unpopular governments without violence.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
What I mean is, the para movement tries to big up the significance of para sports by saying it’s no different to female sports (I.e. the participants are limited by something - gender or disability).
Ah OK, got you. I still have never heard that (until here and now from you). And my 1st instinct is not keen. No, I will not be running - or throwing or jumping - with that.
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This is a Westminster bubble story. Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
I wouldn't worry about the BBC, the probability that anything will happen is inversely proportional to the amount of "leaking" of the government's intentions.
Classic example right here. Angela Rayner is too thick to realise that she is helping to dig the BBC’s grave.
Why does she think we need it to remain as a public service broadcaster if she “is no big fan” of it?
Because it doesn't ingratiate itself with either side? If he said "I love the BBC and we've got to keep it" it would help the allegation that they're biased to the left.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Because all I can see is a somewhat heavy-handed idea to reduce teenage pregnancy rates.
Absolutely nothing suggesting that defined groups of people shouldn't be allowed to ever reproduce at any life stage.
So the young, who vote Labour, don't see the point of the BBC.
Meanwhile the old, who vote Tory, watch it 24/7.
So which party wants rid?
Wait until middle england finds out Radio 2 is to be binned.
MPs will not know what has hit them.
Why would one of the most popular radio stations in the country be under threat. I think it is much more likely R3 would be under threat as would the niche stations like Asian Network.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Actually more relevant than ever as Boris breaks down the norms around ministerial accountability.
We still don’t have the full details on L’Affaire Arcuri, nor who paid for that villa.
We do urgently need an answer on the villa. 55 year old men with good jobs and money in the bank usually pay for their own holidays. And more generally if Johnson is taking emoluments from 3rd parties, the country has a right to know who they are and what the quid pro quo might be. We can shrug and say it's just "Boris being Boris" but it must be a properly informed shrug.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Nice try. That's pb.com's reporting of Red Roar's mischaracterisation of what the bloke actually said. The video it's referencing does not contain the word "sterlisation". Or "eugenics".
Where in his original words does he advocate either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Has there been anything in the press recently about Dominic Cummings's needed surgery? It was supposed to have been scheduled for early November, and then for early February. I have no idea whether there's some Sun Tzuian "cheng and ch'i" involved but whatever the position I wish him the best of health.
I was wondering that. He was walking a bit funny the other day, I noticed.
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Nice try. That's pb.com's reporting of Red Roar's mischaracterisation of what the bloke actually said. The video it's referencing does not contain the word "sterlisation". Or "eugenics".
Where in his original words does he advocate either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
"Eugenics are about selecting ‘for’ good things,” he says. “Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness. There is no downside to having IQ except short-sightedness"
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Nice try. That's pb.com's reporting of Red Roar's mischaracterisation of what the bloke actually said. The video it's referencing does not contain the word "sterlisation". Or "eugenics".
Where in his original words does he advocate either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
"Eugenics are about selecting ‘for’ good things,” he says. “Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness. There is no downside to having IQ except short-sightedness"
So that's a quote from him that references eugenics. It's extremely unclear whether or not he's advocating it, but we can agree to disagree on the precise meaning of what he's trying to say. At the very least I can agree that even mentioning the word is extremely problematic for anyone remotely near front-line politics.
This is progress. Excellent. Now, where does he advocate enforced sterilisation, please?
The left was warned that if they opened up the debate on economics that the Thatcher-Blair settlement had ended, the right would respond by opening up the field of culture that the left considers their established domain.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
You're so right. It's the nasty Left who are just making you do it. Your advocacy of eugenics and sterilization of people you don't like is entirely somebody else's fault and nothing to do with you, oh dear me no.
Right then. Can you please link to the bit where this person I've never heard of has advocated either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
Nice try. That's pb.com's reporting of Red Roar's mischaracterisation of what the bloke actually said. The video it's referencing does not contain the word "sterlisation". Or "eugenics".
Where in his original words does he advocate either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
"Eugenics are about selecting ‘for’ good things,” he says. “Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness. There is no downside to having IQ except short-sightedness"
As unpalatable as it might be, it's already done with abortions of babies with severe disabilities.
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A good campaigning mind, but nowhere near as clever as he thinks, prone to gross over-reach, and totally lacking in the caution and discipline needed to be involved in governing.
At the moment, Johnson can afford bad headlines, and has political capital to burn. But that won't last forever, and then Cummings is finished.
Response: A MILLION!
Much more concerning are the leaked plans to eviscerate the BBC.
BTW, that is the highly sanitised version. Unlady-like language is being used.
Questionable? You need your head examined.
The noise may become too much, and the delivery too little.
The idea that Cummings is espousing though is 100% right - the government departments are crap, the arrangements of our state are questionable, and Johnny Everyone needs a bit of a kick.
I make no accusations against Sunak personally. But the role of TCI, one other fund and a well known US bank, along with various other funds with close links to RBS, has never been properly or fully told. It does not reflect well on them, the banks involved or the relevant regulatory authorities
Some might consider that some of what went on was potentially criminal.
I could not possibly comment.
After all, FGM, eugenics and killing the odd child are, apparently, no bar to the policy unit. Executing some civil service deadwood should only be a mental warm-up for such giant intelllects.
I have some highly controversial views on what should happen for lives blighted by demntia. They might be quite mainstream by the end of this century.
In addition to all the discussion from last night, another thing that has changed is that especially the young have grown up with all the services they use being funded by ads e.g. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
“The left” have wasted the last decade wanking on about trans rights and forgot what it means to maintain a liberal democracy.
Well, they didn't listen, so here it is. Enjoy!
I'm completely happy to see a million people die for the greater good, but I'm sure that the evidence available will never be enough for me to find it a greater good.
I have loads. One of my favourites is piano tuition and French lessons for the unemployed. Free of charge and compulsory. Imagine the impact.
We aren't talking about privatisation of the media here, the BBC is not the be all and end all, the sector is already private.
https://twitter.com/labour_history/status/1207614350363631616
The whole thread on Labour's responses to 1983 is worth a read, how far the same problems remain, is another matter.
The problem with this guy is not that his thoughts are inflammatory. It’s that they are inflammatory and gormless. All the media training in the world won’t make him less gormless.
I doubt he will make the end of 2020.
Unbelievable.
It is clear now though that Boris (Cummings) intends to castrate each in turn.
What purpose is intended?
In what way is this conservative?
For young people in particular there is no quesiton that the whole premise of the BBC and licence fee is irrelevant to most of them. The world has already changed and the government and parliament can only put off dealing with that change for so long.
The purpose I suspect is to stop BBC journalism reporting on what Johnson's shower are up to.
There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.
(i) Women complaining that female sports are ranked down with para sports.
(ii) Paras complaining that para sports are ranked down with female sports.
Or am I still missing it?
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1229050421680988160
Not wrong.
Angela Rayner is too thick to realise that she is helping to dig the BBC’s grave.
Why does she think we need it to remain as a public service broadcaster if she “is no big fan” of it?
That's for starters.
Meanwhile the old, who vote Tory, watch it 24/7.
So which party wants rid?
The department now run by the newly promoted minister disqualified her spouse from running a company until April 2029"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/husband-of-business-minister-amanda-solloway-in-11-year-ban-hfg7097x5
MPs will not know what has hit them.
We still don’t have the full details on L’Affaire Arcuri, nor who paid for that villa.
Times are changing fast and the BBC are going to have to come up with a funding model that is not paid by tax
Because all I can see is a somewhat heavy-handed idea to reduce teenage pregnancy rates.
Absolutely nothing suggesting that defined groups of people shouldn't be allowed to ever reproduce at any life stage.
If she is involved that is different, but I assume you are not accusing her of this
The clue is in the link
However, all that matters is the voters and Boris will win or lose entirely on how he performs in their eyes, not some figure in the background
Where in his original words does he advocate either eugenics or enforced sterilisation?
"Eugenics are about selecting ‘for’ good things,” he says. “Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness. There is no downside to having IQ except short-sightedness"
This is progress. Excellent. Now, where does he advocate enforced sterilisation, please?