IANAE, but I thought that applied to proceedings on the Floor of the House, rather than all proceedings (i.e. committee meetings are meetings of parliamentarians rather than a parliament)
You're mistaken. If that were the case, MPs who had gone for a drink in their local would have the same status as a Select Committee.
Certainly with respect to libel it is the physical footprint of the Palace that matters (hence, I suppose, 'step outside and say that again').
@AndyJS off topic, but I know you keep track of how many homicides there have been in London over the course of the calendar year. Where do we stand at present?
87 so far this year according to the MurderMap website.
Looks like we're heading for another 40 year low. Last year the total was 99. The highest was 204 in 2003, so it's more than halved in ten years, mainly because of a crackdown on black-on-black gun crime:
87 so far this year according to the MurderMap website.
Looks like we're heading for another 40 year low. Last year the total was 99. The highest was 204 in 2003, so it's more than halved in ten years, mainly because of a crackdown on black-on-black gun crime
It's surprising that there were more murders in 2003 than 2005, given 7/7.
Watching Alan Rusbridger was dull but did he really admit that he hadn't checked all the names before sending to America because there were too many? I may have dropped off, though.
Really testing cross-examination by Paul Flynn, the one with the brown tongue.
"But do the British really need to hate the rich and successful......."
I don't particularly see a British characteristic being resentment of success or even wealth but what is a British characteristic is a belief in fair play. You and I know that we don't live in a meritocracy in any way shape or form and parental wealth is a far bigger determinant to future riches than any personal endeavour.
So when the public see IDS Cameron Osborne and co beating up on those living in council houses for having an extra bedroom while enjoying their inherited privileges it offends. It's as simple as that
A man may see how this world goes with no eyes. Look with thine ears: see how yond justice rails upon yond simple thief. Hark, in thine ear: change places; and, handy-dandy, which is the justice, which is the thief?
Would a 'bedroom tax' have been easier to bear had it been introduced by a government led by leaders of humbler social origin and less personal wealth?
It is the office not the individual which has power and transferring opposition to the holder of the office not the office itself is an easy means of finding false solace.
Some more Lear:
This is the excellent foppery of the world, that, when we are sick in fortune,--often the surfeit of our own behavior,--we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars: as if we were villains by necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves, and treachers, by spherical predominance; drunkards, liars, and adulterers, by an enforced obedience of planetary influence; and all that we are evil in, by a divine thrusting on: an admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition to the charge of a star!
"Would a 'bedroom tax' have been easier to bear had it been introduced by a government led by leaders of humbler social origin and less personal wealth?"
Easier from people who don't get their spare bedrooms paid for by the taxpayer.
The political class are permanently tainted by expenses because they didn't clean out the stable fully - as they couldn't or it would have been the majority of them. Because of that the "all in this together" line is gone for good or until the stables are fully cleaned.
Yet that [blame affecting VI] doesn’t seem to be happening. Labour continue to have good solid leads across all the firms while the Tories continue to struggle
Labour has good, consistent leads. Whether they are solid is a different matter.
You've got to be careful not to sound like Stuart Truth. We haven't heard from him since Obama got re-elected.
There's a lot of evidence that the Coalition parties are unpopular; there's no great evidence that labour *is* popular. Indeed, if they were, UKIP wouldn't be polling well into double figures. The figures in the leader clearly indicate that around a third of Labour's current notional support blames them at least as much as the coalition for the cuts which isn't a wonderful augery for their chances in 2015 considering who their top two are.
None of which is to suggest that Labour won't win. I would, however, very much suggest that the game is absolutely still in play.
You would think so. But the danger for the Tories is that they are pissing in too small a pot. So many people will never vote Tory come hell or high water.
Only around 60% of the electorate will vote and the Conservatives only need about 40% of them to be in with a decent shot of winning, provided that the Lib Dems and/or UKIP do reasonably. That's less than one in four of the electorate. It doesn't matter that many people will never vote Tory providing that (1) enough of them stay at home or don't vote Labour or (where it matters), Lib Dem, and (2) that enough of those who might, do.
"Guns and drugs fuel sudden rise in London's murder rate
The murder rate in London has doubled in 12 months to reach one of its highest levels ever, according to the most recent Home Office statistics, which have been leaked to the Telegraph.
In the final three months of last year there were 61 murders in the capital, compared with just 31 in the same quarter, the previous year. The figure is the highest total for the last three months of any year, according to the Metropolitan Police's published figures. In the final three months of 2000, for example, there were only 40 murders, while in the same period of 2001 and 2002 there were 43 and 31 respectively.
A year-on-year comparison between the murder rate in 2003 and that in 2002 is not available because the Metropolitan Police is currently "revising" its figures for the first four months of last year. The total, however, is expected to be significantly up on 2002.
Senior officers fear that a dramatic increase in the use of guns, particularly in battles between gangs competing over the trade in drugs, is the prime cause of the sharp rise in the number of deaths.":
"Coalition meets just 0.2% of Universal Credit target New figures show just 2,150 are claiming the payment, leaving the government 997,850 short of its original target of one million."
But he reads his bible, thats what counts. (can't think of any other reason he got the job)
That's up 150 since this morning tim - even a trend denier such as yourself has to be impressed at the growth.
Almost matching the growth in tim's postcount over time..
How about explaining the position of a tragic UKIP switcher, a Tory who got very excited about immigration in the spring and voted UKIP, what motivates this swing group of pathetic scared people?
"Guns and drugs fuel sudden rise in London's murder rate
The murder rate in London has doubled in 12 months to reach one of its highest levels ever, according to the most recent Home Office statistics, which have been leaked to the Telegraph.
In the final three months of last year there were 61 murders in the capital, compared with just 31 in the same quarter, the previous year. The figure is the highest total for the last three months of any year, according to the Metropolitan Police's published figures. In the final three months of 2000, for example, there were only 40 murders, while in the same period of 2001 and 2002 there were 43 and 31 respectively.
A year-on-year comparison between the murder rate in 2003 and that in 2002 is not available because the Metropolitan Police is currently "revising" its figures for the first four months of last year. The total, however, is expected to be significantly up on 2002.
Senior officers fear that a dramatic increase in the use of guns, particularly in battles between gangs competing over the trade in drugs, is the prime cause of the sharp rise in the number of deaths.":
Hence the drop after all the arrests from the shopping riots.
The best way to reduce rape/murder/manslaughter is to increase the percentage and length of custodial sentences for mugging as robbing someone at knifepoint is like the younger version of the same mentality. So if they're already in clink for mugging then they won't be roaming about looking for victims. Much better way than using stop and search to stop people carrying as that winds up all the non gangstas as collateral damage.
This is a global battle between the two which Nokia is winning hands down. HTC will throw in the towel soon, license the patents and continue selling its phones - which may go upin price as a result.
On a related note, I have been learning all about Sony's highly successful - and extremely aggressive - patent licensing business over the last few weeks. Very impressive!
This is a 1977 Panorama documentary about a London comprehensive school (filmed in 1976). The school was in East Acton:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7ThNFtf68&
and very good it is too. schools outside those sort of areas are like that now while the ones in the same areas are much worse.
My father is an experienced PE teacher for over 30 years in Dagenham & Tower Hamlets and now in his retirement he is a teaching assistant in a terrible school in Essex where his job is basically crowd control.
The lack of discipline has reached such levels that classes need two teachers.
I sense a huge mood change since 2010. The biggest change to polling was in response to the reduction in the top rate of tax for those earning over 150,000 a year. There seems to be something of a revulsion in the inequality that has existed for a long time but which is now seen through the prism of our government appearing to be made up of the privileged for the privileged.
It's going to be a hard one to shake. The losers are definitely the coalition. We don't yet know who the winners will be.
Ps. Avery. Nice comment on the comprehensive shooters. Very funny!
The hike in personal allowance thresholds from £6,475 to £10,000 didn't register amongst your rich chums?
Could you remind us what the Basic Rate tax band was in 2010 and what it will be in 2014 ?
In other words when do taxpayers start paying HRT @40% ?
At the moment I believe taxpayers start paying 40% income tax at £41,450, whereas it was £43,875 in 2010 and £40,835 in 2008/9.
It hasn't been below £40k since 2007/8, when it was £39,825.
The current budget proposal is for the threshold at which 40% tax is paid to rise by 1% in April 2014, to £41,865, so the basic rate band will shrink slightly as the personal allowance is increased to £10k.
I would think that it is very unlikely that 40% income tax will ever again be levied on income less than £40k.
This is a global battle between the two which Nokia is winning hands down. HTC will throw in the towel soon, license the patents and continue selling its phones - which may go upin price as a result.
On a related note, I have been learning all about Sony's highly successful - and extremely aggressive - patent licensing business over the last few weeks. Very impressive!
I hear it's done through a few subsidiaries so Sony maintain a public image of keeping above such things...
David Barrett @davidbarrett 8m Cressida Dick, Scotland Yard anti terror chief, says "some people may have committed offences" over the Guardian's security leak stories
"Teaching time = classroom time - disruption time"
Correct.
"the abandoning of discipline is the main cause"
Incorrect. Far from being abandoned discipline is a central plank of all secondary schools do.
Generally Gove's reforms (except in ICT where I fully support him) will make things worse for most of our kids.
The state school my children attended in recent years has a much tougher approach to discipline than the one I attended in the 1970s. Back then exclusions from comprehensive schools were almost unheard of, bullying was routine and many teachers did not think anything could or should be done about it, and there was a far less rigorous approach to testing and academic achievement.
"Teaching time = classroom time - disruption time"
Correct.
"the abandoning of discipline is the main cause"
Incorrect. Far from being abandoned discipline is a central plank of all secondary schools do.
Generally Gove's reforms (except in ICT where I fully support him) will make things worse for most of our kids.
yeah right
Schools are only one part of the equation. The children and their parents / guardians are the other two. Schools do focus on discipline *within the contraints they're given* but if their work is not backed up by the attitude of the other two, it is simply an exercise in mitigating failure.
This is a 1977 Panorama documentary about a London comprehensive school (filmed in 1976). The school was in East Acton:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7ThNFtf68&
and very good it is too. schools outside those sort of areas are like that now while the ones in the same areas are much worse.
My father is an experienced PE teacher for over 30 years in Dagenham & Tower Hamlets and now in his retirement he is a teaching assistant in a terrible school in Essex where his job is basically crowd control.
The lack of discipline has reached such levels that classes need two teachers.
There was a report a while back which said the number of police responses to schools was a sign of how draconian the discipline was (whereas in fact it was a sign of the teachers having given up on discipline).
OK guys. I don't know what happened there but we're all back and running. I will search through the server logs and diagnose what caused our outage later today. Thanks
"Teaching time = classroom time - disruption time"
Correct.
"the abandoning of discipline is the main cause"
Incorrect. Far from being abandoned discipline is a central plank of all secondary schools do.
Generally Gove's reforms (except in ICT where I fully support him) will make things worse for most of our kids.
yeah right
Schools are only one part of the equation. The children and their parents / guardians are the other two. Schools do focus on discipline *within the contraints they're given* but if their work is not backed up by the attitude of the other two, it is simply an exercise in mitigating failure.
"Schools do focus on discipline"
Not in my school they didn't. They sat behind their desk hiding their face behind the Guardian while the little kids were getting beat to a pulp in front of them because they didn't want to get stabbed.
edit: also to address your other point the worst areas are on their 3rd generation of going through schools like that so back in the 70s the parents and grand-parents still knew better but now the parents and grand-parents have been through the same process.
This is a global battle between the two which Nokia is winning hands down. HTC will throw in the towel soon, license the patents and continue selling its phones - which may go upin price as a result.
On a related note, I have been learning all about Sony's highly successful - and extremely aggressive - patent licensing business over the last few weeks. Very impressive!
I hear it's done through a few subsidiaries so Sony maintain a public image of keeping above such things...
Yup, that's common practice, though new legislation in the US may make it much harder to do. That said, Sony (ex-Japan) has a few well-known senior transactions experts who are pretty open about what they do. They come to the conferences we organise to talk about it!
"Teaching time = classroom time - disruption time"
Correct.
"the abandoning of discipline is the main cause"
Incorrect. Far from being abandoned discipline is a central plank of all secondary schools do.
Generally Gove's reforms (except in ICT where I fully support him) will make things worse for most of our kids.
The state school my children attended in recent years has a much tougher approach to discipline than the one I attended in the 1970s. Back then exclusions from comprehensive schools were almost unheard of, bullying was routine and many teachers did not think anything could or should be done about it, and there was a far less rigorous approach to testing and academic achievement.
The catchment colony schools guardianistas send their kids to are different - that's why guardianistas created catchment colony schools.
The video I posted a bit earlier showed how there were already serious disciplinary problems in comprehensives in 1976, with teachers struggling to cope.
The video I posted a bit earlier showed how there were already serious disciplinary problems in comprehensives in 1976, with teachers struggling to cope.
Lack of uniform worn shows that school had a lack of discipline.
I can never see much point in such metrics as these. Tory supporters blame Labour for cuts which in any event don't exist - spending has shot up under this government.
I'm sick of hearing this. In a discussion about overall spending as a % of GDP that might be relevant, but what is the bedroom tax if it is not a cut? What is a reduction in a department's budget if it is not a cut? The fact that spending rises elsewhere doesn't mean there are no cuts, it just means Osborne is going for a mullet strategy - cutting where you shouldn't and letting the wrong bits get out of control.
I can never see much point in such metrics as these. Tory supporters blame Labour for cuts which in any event don't exist - spending has shot up under this government.
I'm sick of hearing this. In a discussion about overall spending as a % of GDP that might be relevant, but what is the bedroom tax if it is not a cut? What is a reduction in a department's budget if it is not a cut? The fact that spending rises elsewhere doesn't mean there are no cuts, it just means Osborne is going for a mullet strategy - cutting where you shouldn't and letting the wrong bits get out of control.
The mullet strategy. Like it
Oi mate, less of the chatter, you've got a tax bill to pay.
This is a 1977 Panorama documentary about a London comprehensive school (filmed in 1976). The school was in East Acton:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7ThNFtf68&
and very good it is too. schools outside those sort of areas are like that now while the ones in the same areas are much worse.
My father is an experienced PE teacher for over 30 years in Dagenham & Tower Hamlets and now in his retirement he is a teaching assistant in a terrible school in Essex where his job is basically crowd control.
The lack of discipline has reached such levels that classes need two teachers.
There was a report a while back which said the number of police responses to schools was a sign of how draconian the discipline was (whereas in fact it was a sign of the teachers having given up on discipline).
The attitude of younger teachers seems to be "if we ignore it, it will go away" from what I have heard.
A pupil in my fathers class refused to stop playing on her phone and then proceeded to fall asleep with her headphones in... my Dad put his finger to his mouth (the shhh gesture) and said "be quiet some people are trying to sleep" sarcastically to the rest of the class and one of them reported him for racism (the shhh gesture being misinterpreted as a big lips piss take of a black person)
Yup, that's common practice, though new legislation in the US may make it much harder to do. That said, Sony (ex-Japan) has a few well-known senior transactions experts who are pretty open about what they do. They come to the conferences we organise to talk about it!
Whatever works to keep the company afloat while things are, err, restructured...
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely - huge increase in use of private tutors - spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools - massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better - free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
It's probably true that immigrants have improved schools in London. I wonder if anyone's doing any serious research on the subject.
Rich or poor immigants?
Are the figures improving in other places of high immigration, Boston, Bradford etc, and are standards plummeting in largely white cities, such as Liverpool?
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely -
People are not moving out of London - the population is growing and forecast to rise further
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely - huge increase in use of private tutors - spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools - massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better - free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
etc etc etc
Have you got figures for 50% private tuition rates, including among those on free school meals or is it all made up like your crime stat conspiracy.
Data please.
I've posted the data many times. It's quite odd how you seem to forget it every time i win this argument - back in a tick.
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely -
People are not moving out of London - the population is growing and forecast to rise further
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely -
People are not moving out of London - the population is growing and forecast to rise further
100,00s are moving out, 150,000s are moving in?
Obviously there is turnover, but the demand for school places is rising - most boroughs are having to build extra capacity - 10-15 years ago they were closing unfilled schools.
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely -
People are not moving out of London - the population is growing and forecast to rise further
"Something quite remarkable happened in London in the first decade of the new millennium. The number of white British people in the capital fell by 620,000 - equivalent to the entire population of Glasgow moving out."
Certainly with respect to libel it is the physical footprint of the Palace that matters (hence, I suppose, 'step outside and say that again').
The test is whether or not the action constitutes a proceedings in Parliament. Accordingly, an MP who assaults another within the Chamber is subject to the jurisdiction of the ordinary courts. Likewise, were Parliament to choose to sit elsewhere than Westminster (as it has done in the past), a slander in the Palace of Westminster could be proceeded against in the High Court.
"Parents, such as Batool, from north-west London, who does not want to give her full name, said many in her social circle now paid for tuition. "Private tutoring has become normal," she said. "Parents are more aware of the failings of the state education system"
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely - huge increase in use of private tutors - spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools - massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better - free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
etc etc etc
Have you got figures for 50% private tuition rates, including among those on free school meals or is it all made up like your crime stat conspiracy.
Data please.
I've posted the data many times. It's quite odd how you seem to forget it every time i win this argument - back in a tick.
50% private tuition rates of people on free school meals, this will be an eyeopener
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
They're not improving the schools they're using private tutors to compensate for the schools.
@AndyJS off topic, but I know you keep track of how many homicides there have been in London over the course of the calendar year. Where do we stand at present?
87 so far this year according to the MurderMap website.
Looks like we're heading for another 40 year low. Last year the total was 99. The highest was 204 in 2003, so it's more than halved in ten years, mainly because of a crackdown on black-on-black gun crime:
The only major city which has a homicide rate anywhere near as low as London is Tokyo.
Thanks for this.
Sadly, I knew one of the most recent victims. That brings my tally of murder victims that I have known to four (and I've also known two killers). None of the deaths were connected in any way.
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely -
People are not moving out of London - the population is growing and forecast to rise further
"Something quite remarkable happened in London in the first decade of the new millennium. The number of white British people in the capital fell by 620,000 - equivalent to the entire population of Glasgow moving out."
The biggest reason is the schools.
Read the research, children moving into London do better than those moving out
Because they're using private tutors to compensate for the schools.
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
"Parents, such as Batool, from north-west London, who does not want to give her full name, said many in her social circle now paid for tuition. "Private tutoring has become normal," she said. "Parents are more aware of the failings of the state education system"
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely - huge increase in use of private tutors - spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools - massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better - free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
etc etc etc
Have you got figures for 50% private tuition rates, including among those on free school meals or is it all made up like your crime stat conspiracy.
Data please.
I've posted the data many times. It's quite odd how you seem to forget it every time i win this argument - back in a tick.
50% private tuition rates of people on free school meals, this will be an eyeopener
where did i say anything about free school meals?
Explain why kids on free school meals in London do better than better off kids outside if this is all private tutor based
Better still go and read the research, start with the FT Chris Cook stuff then the DoE
Priorities. The more terrible the schools become the more the necessity.
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
"Parents, such as Batool, from north-west London, who does not want to give her full name, said many in her social circle now paid for tuition. "Private tutoring has become normal," she said. "Parents are more aware of the failings of the state education system"
"Two in five (40%) of those living in London had received private tuition at some point"
There's loads more obviously.
edit: although it does seem to be 40% of pupils in London rather than 50%, my mistake there. same argument though.
There are a huge number of charities offering private tutoring for kids with challenging family backgrounds / free school meals / etc etc
Are they caught in your stats for pupils recieving private tuition. They probably should be, but obviously it's different to parents paying for it.
Does the source of the private tutors change the point? The improvement in exam results in London is used as evidence of the schools improving. The improvement in exam results has also coincided with a massive increase in the use of private tutors. If the schools were good why the increase in private tutors and if the schools were good why would this increase in private tuition have such a big effect?
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
"London schools have improved so rapidly over the past 10 years that even children in the city’s poorest neighbourhoods can expect to do better than the average pupil living outside the capital. FT analysis of 10 years of state school exam results has revealed that living in the city now gives the capital’s children an enormous advantage over pupils elsewhere – and sets out the extreme difficulties the coalition will face outside the capital in achieving its aim of raising educational social mobility."
1. 50% usage of private tutors *because* the schools are so terrible.
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools - 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely - huge increase in use of private tutors - spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools - massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better - free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
etc etc etc
Have you got figures for 50% private tuition rates, including among those on free school meals or is it all made up like your crime stat conspiracy.
Data please.
I've posted the data many times. It's quite odd how you seem to forget it every time i win this argument - back in a tick.
50% private tuition rates of people on free school meals, this will be an eyeopener
where did i say anything about free school meals?
Explain why kids on free school meals in London do better than better off kids outside if this is all private tutor based
Better still go and read the research, start with the FT Chris Cook stuff then the DoE
Priorities. The more terrible the schools become the more the necessity.
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
Nothing in there to back up your 50% claim. Try again
40% claim
The terrible state of the schools in the inner cities are the main reason for - 100,000s of people moving further out of London or out of London completely - the massive increase in the use of private tutors - guardianista catchment colony schools - the demand for free schools - the huge house price increases in areas with relatively safe schools etc
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
What MrJones doesn't like or accept is that part of Londons success is related to the fact that the immigrant parents are more educated than the natives, and and that's always a good predictor of outcomes.
Alternatively people who come from places where private tuition is normal are better adapted to the destruction of the UK's state education system in the inner cities.
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
Whilst a shame he didn't get the Lotus seat it's good he's remaining in the sport. His team mate has not been named, but it seems likely Di Resta will be out.
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
40%. So not 24%
"40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year."
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
OK, and 15% of "less affluent" Londoners.
Big difference from the made up Mr Jones facts. And doesn't explain the huge difference between London and non London among poor kids on free school meals
The schools outside inner London aren't as bad so there isn't the same drive to compensate - yet.
The Joseph Rowntree will be publishing in the new year, a much more comprehensive analysis of educational attainment and private tuition in the new year.
It will be broken down by various demographics, from what I've read, the key elements is parents whose first language isn't English or those whose own educational achievements are limited.
In New York they're pleased murder rates have been coming down for 25 years, but they're still about four times higher than London. Chicago is ten times higher (than London) IIRC.
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
The article said 40% at some point in their education and 24% in the last year.
Either is sub-optimal. the fact that people believe that they need extra tuition to succeed suggests that they believe (not commenting on perception vs reality) that the schools are not preparing them adequately and/or competition is so intense that they need an edge
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
If the massive increase in the use of private tutors continues and exam results continue to rise despite the London Challenge being scrapped then it will show it was noting to do with the London Challenge.
@AndyJS off topic, but I know you keep track of how many homicides there have been in London over the course of the calendar year. Where do we stand at present?
87 so far this year according to the MurderMap website.
Looks like we're heading for another 40 year low. Last year the total was 99. The highest was 204 in 2003, so it's more than halved in ten years, mainly because of a crackdown on black-on-black gun crime:
The only major city which has a homicide rate anywhere near as low as London is Tokyo.
Thanks for this.
Sadly, I knew one of the most recent victims. That brings my tally of murder victims that I have known to four (and I've also known two killers). None of the deaths were connected in any way.
Those four murders do have one connection in common. You.
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
The article said 40% at some point in their education and 24% in the last year.
Either is sub-optimal. the fact that people believe that they need extra tuition to succeed suggests that they believe (not commenting on perception vs reality) that the schools are not preparing them adequately and/or competition is so intense that they need an edge
Included in the 40% figures will be a lot of people who tried to get bursaries, into selective schools etc. I
Yes, and I suspect that a lot of the 24% will be related to GCSEs/transition to secondary school, etc.
An important point politically is as the state sector gets worse everyone is scrabbling to move up a housing rung to protect their kids from the worst consequences so people who are only semi-posh whose parents could afford private schools but who can't afford it themselves now because they are paying so much more for housing costs should think on why all these hoi-polloi are desperately moving away. If the state schools weren't so bad those people wouldn't be so desperate to move and so they wouldn't be pushing up the housing costs where the semi-posh live and so the semi-posh could still afford private schools.
edit so the semi-posh should want a good or at least semi-decent state sector in their own interests.
Mr Jones and Tim, as a long term lurker, I need to offer my expertise in this area
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
24% in the last year, a big chunk of which will be in independent schools. Sounds about right
No, the figures are for state schools.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
24% in London. So not 40%. And it looks like the number has been rising since the London Challenge was scrapped. It remains a mystery why this was done given that everyone - including Michael Gove today - has accepted that it was a success.
The article said 40% at some point in their education and 24% in the last year.
Either is sub-optimal. the fact that people believe that they need extra tuition to succeed suggests that they believe (not commenting on perception vs reality) that the schools are not preparing them adequately and/or competition is so intense that they need an edge
Included in the 40% figures will be a lot of people who tried to get bursaries, into selective schools etc. I
Yes, and I suspect that a lot of the 24% will be related to GCSEs/transition to secondary school, etc.
Private tuition is just Mr Jones attempt to prove immigrants have made Londons schools worse, he has a theory that fits the falling murder rate, lower crime levels and everything else in London too.
People spinning that London's schools are improving when they're not helps to hide this.
An important point politically is as the state sector gets worse everyone is scrabbling to move up a housing rung to protect their kids from the worst consequences so people who are only semi-posh whose parents could afford private schools but who can't afford it themselves now because they are paying so much more for housing costs should think on why all these hoi-polloi are desperately moving away. If the state schools weren't so bad those people wouldn't be so desperate to move and so they wouldn't be pushing up the housing costs where the semi-posh live and so the semi-posh could still afford private schools.
edit so the semi-posh should want a good or at least semi-decent state sector in their own interests.
A point which may not be unconnected with the fact down-thread about the number of white people who've left London altogether.
Useless fact: Frank Dobson has been MP for Holborn & St Pancras (South) since 1979 which has included Camden Town and Primrose Hill since 1983. Highgate was added in 2010.
An important point politically is as the state sector gets worse everyone is scrabbling to move up a housing rung to protect their kids from the worst consequences so people who are only semi-posh whose parents could afford private schools but who can't afford it themselves now because they are paying so much more for housing costs should think on why all these hoi-polloi are desperately moving away. If the state schools weren't so bad those people wouldn't be so desperate to move and so they wouldn't be pushing up the housing costs where the semi-posh live and so the semi-posh could still afford private schools.
edit so the semi-posh should want a good or at least semi-decent state sector in their own interests.
A point which may not be unconnected with the fact down-thread about the number of white people who've left London altogether.
There is a cultural aspect. When we moved away because of schools & gangs it never occurred to us to use a private tutor to compensate for the school part of it whereas now that the thought has occurred i mention it to anyone as an option - so good times to be a private tutor.
Useless fact: Frank Dobson has been MP for Holborn & St Pancras (South) since 1979 which has included Camden Town and Primrose Hill since 1983. Highgate was added in 2010.
Does he still live in a council flat, thereby contributing to his personal wealth while preventing a family unable to afford to buy a house from living in a decent property?
I've just heard Keith Vaz ask Rusbridger if "He loves this country". It was frankly embarrassing. The sort of question I would expect from a Tory
What's more it makes the UK look ridiculous over secretive and hypocrites when we ask Russians questions on civil rights.
It's the kind of question I'd expect and we got from a Labour MP. God knows why you still associate yourself with that hypocritical ,incompetent and authoritarian party.
Speaking as someone who detests Labour and thinks they royally screwed the education system in the 13 years they were in power... (for context to the next bit)
Jon Snow was a complete tosser tonight during his interview with Tristram Hunt. He started by asking Hunt to talk about the PISA results from a non Partizan, no party politics point of view, commenting that this was about all our children and should be about what we do to make it right, not about party politics.
Hunt did a very good job of sticking to those guidelines and made some sound points which were, throughout, entirely non party political. Then Snow immediately launched into a rant about how it was all Labour's fault, these were Blair's children and how Labour utterly failed as far as education was concerned.
Now I might agree with all of that but it was hardly fair considering Hunt had just used up his allotted time doing exactly what Snow had asked and avoiding the party slanging.
An extremely poor interview from Snow which did nothing to further the debate.
If, say, 40% of a class have private tuition, do the remaining 60% improve as well through peer pressure, refocused teaching, etc?
Yes,peer pressure will definitely help. One of my offspring had extra tuition,to ensure entry to the local Grammar. He would have made it regardless,my other offspring also made it without extra tuition,apart from Dad. Without doubt there was a sense of we will be the best,we will win,and I am sure that ethos permeated the whole school. Sorry to offend those opposed to the Grammar schools,but in this situation it was a fabulous education for my children,and locally ,and as an employer,you could spot them a mile off.
The Joseph Rowntree will be publishing in the new year, a much more comprehensive analysis of educational attainment and private tuition in the new year.
It will be broken down by various demographics, from what I've read, the key elements is parents whose first language isn't English or those whose own educational achievements are limited.
I will be very curious about that as the educational data of parents with limited educational achievements is very limited. The only flag I usually see is university / non-university educated....
Yes,peer pressure will definitely help. One of my offspring had extra tuition,to ensure entry to the local Grammar. He would have made it regardless,my other offspring also made it without extra tuition,apart from Dad. Without doubt there was a sense of we will be the best,we will win,and I am sure that ethos permeated the whole school. Sorry to offend those opposed to the Grammar schools,but in this situation it was a fabulous education for my children,and locally ,and as an employer,you could spot them a mile off.
So the question is why does it require Grammar schools to enforce the sense of we will be the best, we will win. Surely any school can introduce and create that mindset.....
Yes,peer pressure will definitely help. One of my offspring had extra tuition,to ensure entry to the local Grammar. He would have made it regardless,my other offspring also made it without extra tuition,apart from Dad. Without doubt there was a sense of we will be the best,we will win,and I am sure that ethos permeated the whole school. Sorry to offend those opposed to the Grammar schools,but in this situation it was a fabulous education for my children,and locally ,and as an employer,you could spot them a mile off.
So the question is why does it require Grammar schools to enforce the sense of we will be the best, we will win. Surely any school can introduce and create that mindset.....
In my particular case the school also accepted private boarders,so some blurring of the lines. But yes you have a very valid point,if the politicians can get to grips with it maybe we can raise standards all round. Competiton always brings out the best.
In Great Grimsby the poll shows Labour on 40% (33% in the 2010 election), Conservatives 20% (31%), Liberal Democrats 13% (22%), and Ukip 22% (6%).
In Dudley North there is also a Tory collapse with Labour on 45% (39% in the 2010 election), Conservatives 25% (37%), Liberal Democrats 2% (11%) and Ukip 23% (9%). These figures exclude those who say they are unlikely to vote, or those undecided.
If asked who is responsible for carrying out the cuts, close to 100% ought to say it is the coalition.
If asked who is responsible for the cuts having to be made, then I would hope close to 100% would say Labour, since there was "no money left" when the coalition took over.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7ThNFtf68&
Watching Alan Rusbridger was dull but did he really admit that he hadn't checked all the names before sending to America because there were too many? I may have dropped off, though.
Really testing cross-examination by Paul Flynn, the one with the brown tongue.
Easier from people who don't get their spare bedrooms paid for by the taxpayer.
The political class are permanently tainted by expenses because they didn't clean out the stable fully - as they couldn't or it would have been the majority of them. Because of that the "all in this together" line is gone for good or until the stables are fully cleaned.
Only around 60% of the electorate will vote and the Conservatives only need about 40% of them to be in with a decent shot of winning, provided that the Lib Dems and/or UKIP do reasonably. That's less than one in four of the electorate. It doesn't matter that many people will never vote Tory providing that (1) enough of them stay at home or don't vote Labour or (where it matters), Lib Dem, and (2) that enough of those who might, do.
"Guns and drugs fuel sudden rise in London's murder rate
The murder rate in London has doubled in 12 months to reach one of its highest levels ever, according to the most recent Home Office statistics, which have been leaked to the Telegraph.
In the final three months of last year there were 61 murders in the capital, compared with just 31 in the same quarter, the previous year. The figure is the highest total for the last three months of any year, according to the Metropolitan Police's published figures. In the final three months of 2000, for example, there were only 40 murders, while in the same period of 2001 and 2002 there were 43 and 31 respectively.
A year-on-year comparison between the murder rate in 2003 and that in 2002 is not available because the Metropolitan Police is currently "revising" its figures for the first four months of last year. The total, however, is expected to be significantly up on 2002.
Senior officers fear that a dramatic increase in the use of guns, particularly in battles between gangs competing over the trade in drugs, is the prime cause of the sharp rise in the number of deaths.":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1457390/Guns-and-drugs-fuel-sudden-rise-in-Londons-murder-rate.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513653/Sexual-violence-gang-neighbourhoods-like-war-zones-girls-young-11-groomed-raped.html
"Britain's worst gang hit neighbourhoods are seeing levels of sexual violence as bad as in war zones, it was claimed today."
The best way to reduce rape/murder/manslaughter is to increase the percentage and length of custodial sentences for mugging as robbing someone at knifepoint is like the younger version of the same mentality. So if they're already in clink for mugging then they won't be roaming about looking for victims. Much better way than using stop and search to stop people carrying as that winds up all the non gangstas as collateral damage.
On a related note, I have been learning all about Sony's highly successful - and extremely aggressive - patent licensing business over the last few weeks. Very impressive!
The lack of discipline has reached such levels that classes need two teachers.
It hasn't been below £40k since 2007/8, when it was £39,825.
The current budget proposal is for the threshold at which 40% tax is paid to rise by 1% in April 2014, to £41,865, so the basic rate band will shrink slightly as the personal allowance is increased to £10k.
I would think that it is very unlikely that 40% income tax will ever again be levied on income less than £40k.
"Teaching time = classroom time - disruption time"
Correct.
"the abandoning of discipline is the main cause"
Incorrect. Far from being abandoned discipline is a central plank of all secondary schools do.
Generally Gove's reforms (except in ICT where I fully support him) will make things worse for most of our kids.
Frankly the quality press is having a good run recently with the Telegraph/MP expenses scandal and the Guardian/intelligence scoop.
Cressida Dick, Scotland Yard anti terror chief, says "some people may have committed offences" over the Guardian's security leak stories
oooops....
Not in my school they didn't. They sat behind their desk hiding their face behind the Guardian while the little kids were getting beat to a pulp in front of them because they didn't want to get stabbed.
edit: also to address your other point the worst areas are on their 3rd generation of going through schools like that so back in the 70s the parents and grand-parents still knew better but now the parents and grand-parents have been through the same process.
The catchment colony schools guardianistas send their kids to are different - that's why guardianistas created catchment colony schools.
A pupil in my fathers class refused to stop playing on her phone and then proceeded to fall asleep with her headphones in... my Dad put his finger to his mouth (the shhh gesture) and said "be quiet some people are trying to sleep" sarcastically to the rest of the class and one of them reported him for racism (the shhh gesture being misinterpreted as a big lips piss take of a black person)
Ah what a society we have cultivated
2. Big increase in exam results from only a few hours of private tuition *because* the schools are so terrible.
Pretty much everything that's been happening in the big cities over the last decade or so revolves around the destruction of the state schools
- 100,000s of people moving further out of the cities or out completely
- huge increase in use of private tutors
- spawning of guardianista catchment colony schools
- massive ramp up of house prices where schools are better
- free schools as lifeboats for people who can no longer afford private schools cos of house prices
etc etc etc
Are the figures improving in other places of high immigration, Boston, Bradford etc, and are standards plummeting in largely white cities, such as Liverpool?
Then again, tim thinks Tower Hamlets is a multicultural paradise because he misread the stats on the ONS website
"Something quite remarkable happened in London in the first decade of the new millennium. The number of white British people in the capital fell by 620,000 - equivalent to the entire population of Glasgow moving out."
The biggest reason is the schools.
"Parents, such as Batool, from north-west London, who does not want to give her full name, said many in her social circle now paid for tuition. "Private tutoring has become normal," she said. "Parents are more aware of the failings of the state education system"
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/427234/Quarter-of-pupils-privately-tutored
"Two in five (40%) of those living in London had received private tuition at some point"
There's loads more obviously.
edit: although it does seem to be 40% of pupils in London rather than 50%, my mistake there. same argument though.
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
They're not improving the schools they're using private tutors to compensate for the schools.
Sadly, I knew one of the most recent victims. That brings my tally of murder victims that I have known to four (and I've also known two killers). None of the deaths were connected in any way.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2013/apr/26/warning-headteachers-tutoring-boom
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
Are they caught in your stats for pupils recieving private tuition. They probably should be, but obviously it's different to parents paying for it.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2013/apr/26/warning-headteachers-tutoring-boom
"Parents on modest incomes and families from ethnic minorities are behind a massive boom in Britain's multimillion-pound tutoring market, a Guardian investigation can reveal."
The proportion of young people saying that they have received private tuition has remained high over the last year, with Londoners most likely to have had extra teaching, according to a new Sutton Trust survey.
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons. Polling by Ipsos MORI for the Sutton Trust shows that 24% of all young people in 2013 said they had received private or home tuition at some stage in their school career, compared with 18% in 2005 and 23% in 2012.
Those numbers are much higher for young people in London. 40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year.
http://www.suttontrust.com/news/news/londoners-most-likely-to-pay-for-extra-tuition-as-demand/
The terrible state of the schools in the inner cities are the main reason for
- 100,000s of people moving further out of London or out of London completely
- the massive increase in the use of private tutors
- guardianista catchment colony schools
- the demand for free schools
- the huge house price increases in areas with relatively safe schools
etc
Nearly one in four 11-16 year olds at state schools in England and Wales indicated that their parents had paid for them to have extra help with their lessons.
F1: unsurprisingly Hulkenberg has indeed rejoined Force India:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25205390
Whilst a shame he didn't get the Lotus seat it's good he's remaining in the sport. His team mate has not been named, but it seems likely Di Resta will be out.
"40% of Londoners had received some extra tuition over their school careers, with 24% saying they had benefited from extra coaching in the last year alone. By contrast, only 9% of Welsh pupils had ever received any private or home tuition, including 5% over the last year."
It will be broken down by various demographics, from what I've read, the key elements is parents whose first language isn't English or those whose own educational achievements are limited.
Either is sub-optimal. the fact that people believe that they need extra tuition to succeed suggests that they believe (not commenting on perception vs reality) that the schools are not preparing them adequately and/or competition is so intense that they need an edge
If, say, 40% of a class have private tuition, do the remaining 60% improve as well through peer pressure, refocused teaching, etc?
edit so the semi-posh should want a good or at least semi-decent state sector in their own interests.
Immigration or 'Operation Trident', and the like?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513653/Sexual-violence-gang-neighbourhoods-like-war-zones-girls-young-11-groomed-raped.html
"Britain's worst gang hit neighbourhoods are seeing levels of sexual violence as bad as in war zones, it was claimed today."
What's more it makes the UK look ridiculous over secretive and hypocrites when we ask Russians questions on civil rights.
http://samfreedman1.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/10-things-you-should-know-about-pisa.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-25204655
Another criminal inquiry into events pre 2010 in Staffordshire.
Jon Snow was a complete tosser tonight during his interview with Tristram Hunt. He started by asking Hunt to talk about the PISA results from a non Partizan, no party politics point of view, commenting that this was about all our children and should be about what we do to make it right, not about party politics.
Hunt did a very good job of sticking to those guidelines and made some sound points which were, throughout, entirely non party political. Then Snow immediately launched into a rant about how it was all Labour's fault, these were Blair's children and how Labour utterly failed as far as education was concerned.
Now I might agree with all of that but it was hardly fair considering Hunt had just used up his allotted time doing exactly what Snow had asked and avoiding the party slanging.
An extremely poor interview from Snow which did nothing to further the debate.
One of my offspring had extra tuition,to ensure entry to the local Grammar. He would have made it regardless,my other offspring also made it without extra tuition,apart from Dad.
Without doubt there was a sense of we will be the best,we will win,and I am sure that ethos permeated the whole school.
Sorry to offend those opposed to the Grammar schools,but in this situation it was a fabulous education for my children,and locally ,and as an employer,you could spot them a mile off.
But yes you have a very valid point,if the politicians can get to grips with it maybe we can raise standards all round.
Competiton always brings out the best.
Polls show Labour with 18-point lead over Ukip in Great Grimsby and 20-point lead over Conservatives in Dudley North
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/03/tories-behind-labour-level-with-ukip-key-marginals
In Dudley North there is also a Tory collapse with Labour on 45% (39% in the 2010 election), Conservatives 25% (37%), Liberal Democrats 2% (11%) and Ukip 23% (9%). These figures exclude those who say they are unlikely to vote, or those undecided.
Thank god for some polling!
It has been very difficult for me to keep my gob shut or bet on this.
Will DC and Malkie Rifkind infer, like the Holy See, that it's none of the UN's business?
If asked who is responsible for carrying out the cuts, close to 100% ought to say it is the coalition.
If asked who is responsible for the cuts having to be made, then I would hope close to 100% would say Labour, since there was "no money left" when the coalition took over.