I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Dems have an absolute mountain to climb, but it is not impossible. Nominating Sanders would seal Trump as POTUS though.
It seems chaotic and sad to see the US in such a bad place politically
Indeed. It is very depressing to see the divide. Nancy being denied a basic handshake and then her tearing up the speech.
Who can bring the US together?
Both sides are childish and are wrecking the US reputation across the globe
Trump needs to go but not to be replaced by a Corbyn look-alike
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Dems have an absolute mountain to climb, but it is not impossible. Nominating Sanders would seal Trump as POTUS though.
It seems chaotic and sad to see the US in such a bad place politically
Indeed. It is very depressing to see the divide. Nancy being denied a basic handshake and then her tearing up the speech.
Who can bring the US together?
Both sides are childish and are wrecking the US reputation across the globe
Trump needs to go but not to be replaced by a Corbyn look-alike
Hard to see Dom Cummings unifying things here either. Brexit is not the end, it is the beginning.
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Dems have an absolute mountain to climb, but it is not impossible. Nominating Sanders would seal Trump as POTUS though.
It seems chaotic and sad to see the US in such a bad place politically
Indeed. It is very depressing to see the divide. Nancy being denied a basic handshake and then her tearing up the speech.
Who can bring the US together?
Both sides are childish and are wrecking the US reputation across the globe
Trump needs to go but not to be replaced by a Corbyn look-alike
Hard to see Dom Cummings unifying things here either. Brexit is not the end, it is the beginning.
A question to the kind and knowledgeable people here on PB. -
I'm dyslectic and getting frustrated with the spell checker that I'm using to do this with, its slow and i think ocatanaly misses things.
Is the 'gramaly' think i see adverts for on you-tube any good, or is there something better you could point me to?
I’m afraid the answers in my experience are no and no.
thanks anyway
Ydoethur undoubtedly has more experience than I, but I did find this article, which was rather more positive (possibly overly so): https://www.wired.com/story/end-of-dyslexia/amp If it’s a free download, it might be at least worth a try ?
They are all coming out the woodwork now. To add allegations of bullying, racist and sexually inappropriate language.
"Be Nice to People on Your Way Up. You’ll Meet Them On Your Way Down"
We might see Bercow being investigated by the police for alleged hate crimes yet...
It does seem to be snowballing and I cannot see Bercow with a peerage to be honest
I always said once he no longer has the protection of "the office" wait and see what comes out...
Hope you and Mrs G had a lovely Xmas, New Year etc.
Thanks Gin, and yes we did especially as our youngest son (45) announced his engagement to his partner of 10 years and our two fabulous grandchildren yesterday, with the wedding in August
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Dems have an absolute mountain to climb, but it is not impossible. Nominating Sanders would seal Trump as POTUS though.
It seems chaotic and sad to see the US in such a bad place politically
Indeed. It is very depressing to see the divide. Nancy being denied a basic handshake and then her tearing up the speech.
Who can bring the US together?
Both sides are childish and are wrecking the US reputation across the globe
Trump needs to go but not to be replaced by a Corbyn look-alike
Hard to see Dom Cummings unifying things here either. Brexit is not the end, it is the beginning.
They are all coming out the woodwork now. To add allegations of bullying, racist and sexually inappropriate language.
"Be Nice to People on Your Way Up. You’ll Meet Them On Your Way Down"
We might see Bercow being investigated by the police for alleged hate crimes yet...
It does seem to be snowballing and I cannot see Bercow with a peerage to be honest
I always said once he no longer has the protection of "the office" wait and see what comes out...
Bercow revelled in his reputation as a high profile arse, but one people liked because the aspects of his behaviour which are bully-like (arrogance, high handedness, insulting people etc) were directed at a group of people we generally don't like and many of whom we'd feel deserve it (and we treat even worse than he ever did) or give as good as they get. Whatever his positive qualities (intellect, championing backbenchers, not being cowed by the government etc) he welcomed his reputation of less savoury behaviours when it was presented as him vs MPs, and usually government MPs seeking to avoid scrutiny to boot.
But like school kids being told not to behave in school they way they do with their friends outside of school, for his sake he had better hope he didn't act off camera the way he did on camera.
The MailOnline accounted for a fifth of all time spent on news websites during the six-week general election campaign, Oxford University has found.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
The MailOnline accounted for a fifth of all time spent on news websites during the six-week general election campaign, Oxford University has found.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
SW Surrey CLP selected this evening after 2 hours of civilised discussion. There was a tie for first place between Starmer and Thornberry (RLB 3rd, Nandy 4th), which Starmer won by the tie-break of having 1 more 1st preference. Thornberry comes from next-door Guildford and there was quite a strong "give her a chance" vote, but not quite enough (I voted for Starmer).
For deputy Rayner won, just ahead of Allin-Khan (followed by Butler, Murrsy and Burgon). (I voted Allin-Khan, but am happy with Rayner too.)
We ignored the slates for NEC and went for two of the three people who had taken the trouble to contact us - Apps (who impressed our Aldershot candidate by coming to hlep even after he'd been defeated for the selection) and Sheriff (ex-MP).
The MailOnline accounted for a fifth of all time spent on news websites during the six-week general election campaign, Oxford University has found.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
That sounds like an astoundingly good performance from the MailOnline. I knew it was popular, but that's remarkable if true.
It is totally believable. There have been previous studies that show that it is one of the most visited "news" sites in the world. Much that it is mocked, the sidebar of shame is dead popular, even among non-Tory types, and why the Mail is really the genuinely profitable newspaper.
I think the more interesting figure is how low the Guardian is. It was presumed that because there is no paywall, that lots of people visit it for news / reviews*. Their future depends on visitors willing to spend a lot of time on there, due to incredibly low physical sales.
* I do daily, where as I virtually never visit the Sun / Mirror / Indy.
But as shock about Mackay’s conduct reverberated around Holyrood, questions also emerged about the timing of Sturgeon’s actions. Today it emerged that the Scottish Sun first told Sturgeon’s office about its plans to publish Mackay’s messages at about 5.30pm on Wednesday, putting in train an urgent series of conversations between Sturgeon, Mackay and SNP lawyers.
Sturgeon’s official spokesman confirmed on Thursday afternoon that Alan Muir, the Scottish Sun’s editor, had telephoned him before 6pm to lay out the substance of the Sun story. Later that evening – her spokesman refused to say when – Mackay agreed to resign.
It was not until 8am on Thursday, 14 hours after she was told of the allegations and nine hours after the Sun’s stories went online, that Sturgeon announced Mackay’s resignation in a short statement. The spokesman said they wanted to give Mackay time to tell his family about the Sun’s revelations. Yet, despite their acknowledged seriousness, it was not until noon on Thursday that Sturgeon said in an emergency statement that he had also been suspended from the SNP.
Starmer is going to win this so everyone else is irrelevant. He showed moral cowardice about anti-semitism but he is clever and competent in a general sense. A massive improvement even if probably not quite good enough.
Assuming Brexit gets done (sensibly) going into next year and the economy doesn't blow up, how does Starmer win?
I can see him getting a solid 35% of the vote. But most of Boris's coalition is going to stick with him now and he should be able to rely on a base of 40%+ at the next election too. Farage is history as a major force now.
Without winning over direct Tory switchers he ain't going to be PM.
A year ago circa 40%/41% were telling some pollsters that they would vote Labour under Corbyn - as they had done in 2017. Why would those voters not support Starmer?
Boris.
I doubt that - Johnson is very toxic with many middle-class educated voters who in the past usually voted Tory. Also Labour dropped back from those levels 3 months before he took over - and later went on to recover to 33% from the lows of circa 23% being recorded in June/July.
But for now, at least, Boris is winning over people who would have voted Labour in a heart beat. He is gaining more than he is losing.
We are likely to be at peak Johnson now - and even today Labour is polling well above the levels of last summer. Admittedly most of that has been clawed back from the LDs.
As I said if Boris fails to deliver Starmer is in with a chance. But if he does Labour has little to say. Really enjoying Ed’s program.
Moral: Being in Opposition is rubbish. Don't waste opportunities by being self-indulgent, because a Government making mistakes beats a self-indulgent Opposition. But being sensible is not enough, because until a Government fails, the Opposition is fairly irrelevant.
(Though when the flip happens, it can happen bigly and suddenly. Starmer might not be Blair, but he could easily be the John Smith who lives.)
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it. They certainly tried their best, I cannot imagine how hard it is to prioritise in Wuhan.
The average UK cost of ECMO is £45000, and we have 5 adult centres, including here in Leicester. For the severest sepsis and pneumonia it changes 80% mortality to 40%.
On topic. The 4 in a row stick doesn’t carry the usual swing when 3 were in space of just 5 years in era dominate by brexit not usual party or ideology politics. I also dispute these are good figures for Starmer in the bigger picture of national politics they are dire. I would say it’s insane for labour to elect a personality vacuum like Starmer in the age of Boris and Trump where charisma is king, but I can’t because it’s clear to me Starmer doesn’t have a sniff of winning this based on the number of members I know who went off to the hustings to hear Starmer before voting for him, but he was so dire on the hustings and Nandy so impressive Nandy now has their vote. Starmer has been bombing on hustings around the country. As a betting tip, ignore ClP breaking for LongB or Starmer, the member votes are going to Nandy who has this election in the bag.
The MailOnline accounted for a fifth of all time spent on news websites during the six-week general election campaign, Oxford University has found.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
The MailOnline accounted for a fifth of all time spent on news websites during the six-week general election campaign, Oxford University has found.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
Not that they needed it in the end, but the Tories buying that equivalent of the traditional "wrap-around" ad on GE day was very clever.
I don’t need uni research to authoritatively tell you 99% of that 21% was looking at celebrities in bikini’s and nowhere near the politics. Mail online is refuge not just from politics but all real news. They must be making a mint from the adverts.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it. They certainly tried their best, I cannot imagine how hard it is to prioritise in Wuhan.
The average UK cost of ECMO is £45000, and we have 5 adult centres, including here in Leicester. For the severest sepsis and pneumonia it changes 80% mortality to 40%.
I was talking about the government leaning on the media to change their reports. Again, it might have been a cock-up that officials were desperately trying to correct, but it makes people suspicious of what they are being told...which really isn't what you want in such a situation.
Just to be clear, I am not trying to suggest the Chinese are lying about the overall situation, more that 50 million people are in lock down on the say so of the government. It is really important they maintain confidence in the authorities.
They are all coming out the woodwork now. To add allegations of bullying, racist and sexually inappropriate language.
"Be Nice to People on Your Way Up. You’ll Meet Them On Your Way Down"
We might see Bercow being investigated by the police for alleged hate crimes yet...
It does seem to be snowballing and I cannot see Bercow with a peerage to be honest
I always said once he no longer has the protection of "the office" wait and see what comes out...
Hope you and Mrs G had a lovely Xmas, New Year etc.
Thanks Gin, and yes we did especially as our youngest son (45) announced his engagement to his partner of 10 years and our two fabulous grandchildren yesterday, with the wedding in August
They are all coming out the woodwork now. To add allegations of bullying, racist and sexually inappropriate language.
"Be Nice to People on Your Way Up. You’ll Meet Them On Your Way Down"
We might see Bercow being investigated by the police for alleged hate crimes yet...
It does seem to be snowballing and I cannot see Bercow with a peerage to be honest
I always said once he no longer has the protection of "the office" wait and see what comes out...
Hope you and Mrs G had a lovely Xmas, New Year etc.
Thanks Gin, and yes we did especially as our youngest son (45) announced his engagement to his partner of 10 years and our two fabulous grandchildren yesterday, with the wedding in August
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Watching US news, there is almost nothing about Iowa.
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
Yebbut: £20bn in 1947 = c.$10 trillion in today's money
On topic. The 4 in a row stick doesn’t carry the usual swing when 3 were in space of just 5 years in era dominate by brexit not usual party or ideology politics. I also dispute these are good figures for Starmer in the bigger picture of national politics they are dire. I would say it’s insane for labour to elect a personality vacuum like Starmer in the age of Boris and Trump where charisma is king, but I can’t because it’s clear to me Starmer doesn’t have a sniff of winning this based on the number of members I know who went off to the hustings to hear Starmer before voting for him, but he was so dire on the hustings and Nandy so impressive Nandy now has their vote. Starmer has been bombing on hustings around the country. As a betting tip, ignore ClP breaking for LongB or Starmer, the member votes are going to Nandy who has this election in the bag.
Your certainty based on anecdote seems dubious to me. I don't know anyone who dislikes Nandy, but most people I know think it's an election too soon for her and she should do well, get a high-profile position, and be a strong candidate next time.
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Watching US news, there is almost nothing about Iowa.
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
Iowa is off the headlines.
If Clinton is your VP, the new President ain't going to be getting any life insurance coverage......
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
It is also comparing apples and oranges. India's economy was suppressed by (British owned) monopoly buyers of Indian goods, meaning much of the economic surplus was transferred to Britain. Whereas Scotland operates on the same economic terms as the rest of the UK.
It should also be noted that the British rule of India was not a "them" from the Scottish perspective. Scots were overrepresented in both the East India Company and as administrators of the British Raj. Places like Burma were run almost entirely by Scots. The industrial success of a place like Glasgow was built off colonial, particularly Indian, trade.
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Watching US news, there is almost nothing about Iowa.
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
Iowa is off the headlines.
If Clinton is your VP, the new President ain't going to be getting any life insurance coverage......
There is zero chance of Clinton as VP. It is a fevered dream from Fox News who are obsessed with her.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
Yes, broadly the same pattern, but shifting slightly older compared to the original report. This is really quite fast moving knowledge.
It may simply be that those infected at the seafood market were mostly middle aged men, being the workforce there. Chinese men, but not women, have a high rate of smoking, which may contribute to severity.
The 10% fatality rate in that Lancet report is rather alarming.
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
Yebbut: £20bn in 1947 = c.$10 trillion in today's money
Yes, that figure has to be inflation adjusted.
No one can doubt though that in the two centuries of British trade with India we systematically ran down Indian manufactures in favour of British ones.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
Yes, broadly the same pattern, but shifting slightly older compared to the original report. This is really quite fast moving knowledge.
It may simply be that those infected at the seafood market were mostly middle aged men, being the workforce there. Chinese men, but not women, have a high rate of smoking, which may contribute to severity.
The 10% fatality rate in that Lancet report is rather alarming.
I have had coronavirus. I told the NHS a week ago. The microbiologist at PHEngland sent me to UCLH where I was meant to be tested in an isolation ward, but the idiot nurse said "nah, you look OK" and told me to go sit in the general A&E Waiting Room, ie: surrounded by really sick people I could kill. I had to self isolate in the empty lobby because I knew her advice was insane.
If this is the standard of NHS preparation for a pandemic, we are doomed
Last week Mrs Foxy was on a trolley in ED for 10 hours. I counted 15 others on trolleys, some still there after we left. A significant outbreak in the UK would crash the system very quickly.
If someone is sliding into DMs (as the youngsters say), then it is highly likely that there will be more stories like this. Should keep the Scottish tabloids busy for a while.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
Yes, broadly the same pattern, but shifting slightly older compared to the original report. This is really quite fast moving knowledge.
It may simply be that those infected at the seafood market were mostly middle aged men, being the workforce there. Chinese men, but not women, have a high rate of smoking, which may contribute to severity.
The 10% fatality rate in that Lancet report is rather alarming.
I have had coronavirus. I told the NHS a week ago. The microbiologist at PHEngland sent me to UCLH where I was meant to be tested in an isolation ward, but the idiot nurse said "nah, you look OK" and told me to go sit in the general A&E Waiting Room, ie: surrounded by really sick people I could kill. I had to self isolate in the empty lobby because I knew her advice was insane.
If this is the standard of NHS preparation for a pandemic, we are doomed
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Watching US news, there is almost nothing about Iowa.
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
Iowa is off the headlines.
Feels problematic for Mayor Pete then - he surely needs as much coverage of his success (tight finish notwithstanding) as he can to have a chance.
I know very little aboout US politics but is all this commentary, that after Iowa and the impeachment fiasco, Trump is a shoe in for November really likely
Watching US news, there is almost nothing about Iowa.
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
Iowa is off the headlines.
Feels problematic for Mayor Pete then - he surely needs as much coverage of his success (tight finish notwithstanding) as he can to have a chance.
Maybe not. He got the coverage of the Iowa victory and the fact Sanders has gotten close with it is now buried, last anyone heard from Iowa was that Mayor Pete had won.
On topic. The 4 in a row stick doesn’t carry the usual swing when 3 were in space of just 5 years in era dominate by brexit not usual party or ideology politics. I also dispute these are good figures for Starmer in the bigger picture of national politics they are dire. I would say it’s insane for labour to elect a personality vacuum like Starmer in the age of Boris and Trump where charisma is king, but I can’t because it’s clear to me Starmer doesn’t have a sniff of winning this based on the number of members I know who went off to the hustings to hear Starmer before voting for him, but he was so dire on the hustings and Nandy so impressive Nandy now has their vote. Starmer has been bombing on hustings around the country. As a betting tip, ignore ClP breaking for LongB or Starmer, the member votes are going to Nandy who has this election in the bag.
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I placed a bet on Starmer at 16/1 back in December 2015 so it's too late for me. Maybe I should just cut my losses and lay it all off on Nandy at 11/1 in view of your certainty.
Yet again, dire figures on CLP nominations for Starmer at tonight's CLP meetings.
Starmer is the stop-joke-candidate-RLB one right? We all know he's a busted flush and going to be given the boot eventually in favour of his deputy, assuming that it's Rayner. The electorate remember him.
EDIT: I do like Nandy for some reason but my staunch Labour friend points out to me that it cannot be Nandy AND Rayner. It would be too much.
Nandy & Rayner sounds like a rather tired provincial department store
Starmer is way stronger than the other candidates, who are kind of bunched among Labour voters - I assume other voters will mostly not have heard of them, or would not currently consider voting for Labour under any of them.
Starmer is the stop-joke-candidate-RLB one right? We all know he's a busted flush and going to be given the boot eventually in favour of his deputy, assuming that it's Rayner. The electorate remember him.
EDIT: I do like Nandy for some reason but my staunch Labour friend points out to me that it cannot be Nandy AND Rayner. It would be too much.
Nandy & Rayner sounds like a rather tired provincial department store
If someone is sliding into DMs (as the youngsters say), then it is highly likely that there will be more stories like this. Should keep the Scottish tabloids busy for a while.
Celebrate Rayner getting deputy, I expect. There seems very little appetite for intra-party feuding at the moment.
I'll be voting for her and celebrating. I think Starmer and Rayner between them could reunite the party. And unlike Long-Bailey, she's certainly not going to be in Momentum's pocket, so I don't think that Momentum will be celebrating. I suspect that in general she'll vote with Starmer on key votes on the NEC.
"Rayner has been loyal to Corbyn, but she does not define herself as a Corbynista and backed Andy Burnham in the 2015 leadership election: “I’m Labour through and through, and I wouldn’t define myself by a particular leader.” She is a socialist, but less ideological one than some of her colleagues. “Ideology never put food on my table,” she says. She has successfully scuppered Theresa May’s flagship policy to build a new generation of grammar schools, but doesn’t propose abolishing existing ones because that would mean destroying good schools. She makes an economic case for better education, health and social care, arguing that early intervention and proper support will save money in the long run. She even praises Blair for winning three elections. “I’ve been considered rightwing, moderate, hard left,” she says. “I see myself as soft left. I’m very pragmatic. I’m interested in how we can change lives for the better; how we can we put socialism into practice. Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most.”"
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
Yebbut: £20bn in 1947 = c.$10 trillion in today's money
$20bn in 1947 != $10trillion in today's money.
So, $20bn in 1947 is worth $120bn in 2020. Let's assume no economic growth for 150 years (which is unbelievably generous to the man making the assumption), and you still only get cumulative economic output over 150 years of $18 trillion.
In other words, even if every cent of every Indian's economic output was stolen by the British (which it wasn't), it would still only come to a total $18 trillion.
Was just wondering why, if the SNP consider 16 year olds adults, they think McKay has done anything wrong
Your position is that harassment is ok if the victim is an adult.
Is this story just being treated by the Tories as sh*tposting banter?
Trying to chat someone up on the internet isn’t really harassment in my opinion, unless the person is actively telling you to go away. If the SNP consider 16 year olds adults then the age of McKays interest shouldn’t really be that much of a bother.
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I placed a bet on Starmer at 16/1 back in December 2015 so it's too late for me. Maybe I should just cut my losses and lay it all off on Nandy at 11/1 in view of your certainty.
Yet again, dire figures on CLP nominations for Starmer at tonight's CLP meetings.
Not a good look, given the Chinese population are apparently already distrusting of what the state are saying about this outbreak.
ECMO though. That really is peak medical care to try to get him through it.
Does the death of a 30 year old alter the narrative that its the "over sixties and other medical conditions that die" narrative?
We don't know the details of the other fatalities, so hard to know. In the original report, the average age was 48, and mostly no major illnesses. 3:1 males to females though.
Yes, broadly the same pattern, but shifting slightly older compared to the original report. This is really quite fast moving knowledge.
It s rather alarming.
I have had coronavirus. I told the NHS a week ago. The microbiologist at PHEngland sent me to UCLH where I was meant to be tested in an isolation ward, but the idiot nurse said "nah, you look OK" and told me to go sit in the general A&E Waiting Room, ie: surrounded by really sick people I could kill. I had to self isolate in the empty lobby because I knew her advice was insane.
If this is the standard of NHS preparation for a pandemic, we are doomed
Last week Mrs Foxy was on a trolley in ED for 10 hours. I counted 15 others on trolleys, some still there after we left. A significant outbreak in the UK would crash the system very quickly.
My sympathies, and yes, this is my worry, We are utterly unequipped, and socially unprepared, for a pandemic disease that is 1. highly contagious and 2, might kill 1 in 50.... and this is now on our doorstep. It is looming reality,
And if corona isn't that dystopian disease then eventually one will arrive which IS. Scary.
In the Middle Ages the Black Death killed 30 to 60% of the European population, just a century ago 3 to 6% of the global population were killed by Spanish flu.
Some context would help and whatever else happens we are far better medically equipped to deal with it and with far better sanitation than our ancestors had then
Celebrate Rayner getting deputy, I expect. There seems very little appetite for intra-party feuding at the moment.
I'll be voting for her and celebrating. I think Starmer and Rayner between them could reunite the party. And unlike Long-Bailey, she's certainly not going to be in Momentum's pocket, so I don't think that Momentum will be celebrating. I suspect that in general she'll vote with Starmer on key votes on the NEC.
"Rayner has been loyal to Corbyn, but she does not define herself as a Corbynista and backed Andy Burnham in the 2015 leadership election: “I’m Labour through and through, and I wouldn’t define myself by a particular leader.” She is a socialist, but less ideological one than some of her colleagues. “Ideology never put food on my table,” she says. She has successfully scuppered Theresa May’s flagship policy to build a new generation of grammar schools, but doesn’t propose abolishing existing ones because that would mean destroying good schools. She makes an economic case for better education, health and social care, arguing that early intervention and proper support will save money in the long run. She even praises Blair for winning three elections. “I’ve been considered rightwing, moderate, hard left,” she says. “I see myself as soft left. I’m very pragmatic. I’m interested in how we can change lives for the better; how we can we put socialism into practice. Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most.”"
The hard left seem to be in disarray. My guess is they’ll split into lots of pieces quite soon. Burgon seems to be positioning himself to lead one of the factions. Long-Bailey will have to decide whether she joins the mainstream or remains a Tribunite first and foremost. I think she has a future if she decides to breakaway.
Celebrate Rayner getting deputy, I expect. There seems very little appetite for intra-party feuding at the moment.
I'll be voting for her and celebrating. I think Starmer and Rayner between them could reunite the party. And unlike Long-Bailey, she's certainly not going to be in Momentum's pocket, so I don't think that Momentum will be celebrating. I suspect that in general she'll vote with Starmer on key votes on the NEC.
"Rayner has been loyal to Corbyn, but she does not define herself as a Corbynista and backed Andy Burnham in the 2015 leadership election: “I’m Labour through and through, and I wouldn’t define myself by a particular leader.” She is a socialist, but less ideological one than some of her colleagues. “Ideology never put food on my table,” she says. She has successfully scuppered Theresa May’s flagship policy to build a new generation of grammar schools, but doesn’t propose abolishing existing ones because that would mean destroying good schools. She makes an economic case for better education, health and social care, arguing that early intervention and proper support will save money in the long run. She even praises Blair for winning three elections. “I’ve been considered rightwing, moderate, hard left,” she says. “I see myself as soft left. I’m very pragmatic. I’m interested in how we can change lives for the better; how we can we put socialism into practice. Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most.”"
The hard left seem to be in disarray. My guess is they’ll split into lots of pieces quite soon. Burgon seems to be positioning himself to lead one of the factions. Long-Bailey will have to decide whether she joins the mainstream or remains a Tribunite first and foremost. I think she has a future if she decides to breakaway.
For everyone's sanity, i suggest not opening this thread! How do people get this worked up about gender?!
I think he's worked up about "children" and how the Scottish Government funds boatloads of cash to certain groups who then advise them on gender issues with children and deflect any criticism of their proposals with "We've taken expert advice".
If Starmer wins, will he have trouble with the NEC - ie will he constantly get outvoted?
Will there be a brand new NEC?
I know leader and deputy leader are on NEC - so they will obviously change. But what about Shadow Cabinet and PLP representatives?
And also what about the Unions? If Starmer wins, presumably it's more likely the likes of Unison will nominate people onto NEC who will back him (albeit current people may back him anyway). Unions are important as they have a lot of people on the NEC.
The Times: Boris has recommended 28 new Con Peers.
I think previously reported that Corbyn has recommended 8 new Peers - one of which was Bercow - unclear if he would sit as Lab (albeit his chances may now be slim anyway).
Was just wondering why, if the SNP consider 16 year olds adults, they think McKay has done anything wrong
It's a valid question. If the criticism was about inappropriate behavior or harrassment, then there would be a point as McKay's behavior was creepy and the 16yr old was not interested. But lots of the comments have referred to him as a child and/or McKay's behavior as grooming, which raises the question: if a 16yr old is a child, then why is 16 the age of consent? Conversely, if 16 is the age of consent, then why is he referred to as a child? People seem to be holding two contradictory beliefs simultaneously.
So... she's taken India's export earnings, put it in today's money, and then compounded it at 5%.
That's double counting. Because the interest rate is principally about making up for losses due to inflation.
The accuracy of the number isn't important. In fact, the fidelity to the facts of anything is irrelevant in contemporary political discourse is irrelevant.
The point of it is to make people to discuss it, even if they are only shitting on the number and it's working. See also 350m on the side of a bus.
Things can be legal and still be wholly wrong. Derek Mackay was in a position of power and aggressively pursuing men far younger than himself who did not feel able to tell him to get lost. The old-fashioned word “creep” seems appropriate.
Celebrate Rayner getting deputy, I expect. There seems very little appetite for intra-party feuding at the moment.
I'll be voting for her and celebrating. I think Starmer and Rayner between them could reunite the party. And unlike Long-Bailey, she's certainly not going to be in Momentum's pocket, so I don't think that Momentum will be celebrating. I suspect that in general she'll vote with Starmer on key votes on the NEC.
"Rayner has been loyal to Corbyn, but she does not define herself as a Corbynista and backed Andy Burnham in the 2015 leadership election: “I’m Labour through and through, and I wouldn’t define myself by a particular leader.” She is a socialist, but less ideological one than some of her colleagues. “Ideology never put food on my table,” she says. She has successfully scuppered Theresa May’s flagship policy to build a new generation of grammar schools, but doesn’t propose abolishing existing ones because that would mean destroying good schools. She makes an economic case for better education, health and social care, arguing that early intervention and proper support will save money in the long run. She even praises Blair for winning three elections. “I’ve been considered rightwing, moderate, hard left,” she says. “I see myself as soft left. I’m very pragmatic. I’m interested in how we can change lives for the better; how we can we put socialism into practice. Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most.”"
"Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most." Each other.
Labour are the self-appointed guardians of people who have just told them to bugger off, with their self-serving condescension. They've been found out.
Pete Buttigieg is longer to win the Iowa caucus with 100% declared than he was when 85% were declared. Betfair have an interesting question when they’re going to declare a winner on their market, given the continuing queries about the detail of the count.
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
Yebbut: £20bn in 1947 = c.$10 trillion in today's money
$20bn in 1947 != $10trillion in today's money.
So, $20bn in 1947 is worth $120bn in 2020. Let's assume no economic growth for 150 years (which is unbelievably generous to the man making the assumption), and you still only get cumulative economic output over 150 years of $18 trillion.
In other words, even if every cent of every Indian's economic output was stolen by the British (which it wasn't), it would still only come to a total $18 trillion.
It also fails to take into account any investment the other way, such as in agricultural improvements, canals, railways, roads, telegraphy, ports, courts and civic buildings, education infrastructure and the costs of defence.
It's also unfortunate for that argument that land taxation decreased during the colonial period from what the Mughals used to charge - from about 15% of income down to about 1% - and we don't hear very much about them.
The real issue was that the Indian population grew at the same rate as the economy over the period, meaning per capita incomes didn't change very much.
Pete Buttigieg is longer to win the Iowa caucus with 100% declared than he was when 85% were declared. Betfair have an interesting question when they’re going to declare a winner on their market, given the continuing queries about the detail of the count.
What's also slightly absurd is that - if they reran the caucus - then Buttigieg would win at a canter, because he'd get more Klobuchar and Biden votes, than Sanders would get Warren ones.
Comments
Hope you and Mrs G had a lovely Xmas, New Year etc.
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer my propaganda to at least adopt a pretence of subtlety which might allow me to convince myself its not propaganda.
Note, propaganda can include facts and still be propaganda. It's like the presence of nudity not automatically making somthing porn.
https://www.wired.com/story/end-of-dyslexia/amp
If it’s a free download, it might be at least worth a try ?
All the very best
Interestingly LD support is much more even, both in terms of age and gender. A problem electorally in FPTP, but better in terms of balancing issues.
But like school kids being told not to behave in school they way they do with their friends outside of school, for his sake he had better hope he didn't act off camera the way he did on camera.
The MailOnline took 21 percent of all hours spent on British sites, while the licence fee funded BBC website accounted for 28 percent of the public's time.
Trailing well behind in third The Guardian had a 7 percent share, the Mirror 6 percent and The Sun just 5 percent.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7975599/MailOnline-accounted-fifth-time-spent-news-websites-general-election.html
Not that they needed it in the end, but the Tories buying that equivalent of the traditional "wrap-around" ad on GE day was very clever.
For deputy Rayner won, just ahead of Allin-Khan (followed by Butler, Murrsy and Burgon). (I voted Allin-Khan, but am happy with Rayner too.)
We ignored the slates for NEC and went for two of the three people who had taken the trouble to contact us - Apps (who impressed our Aldershot candidate by coming to hlep even after he'd been defeated for the selection) and Sheriff (ex-MP).
I think the more interesting figure is how low the Guardian is. It was presumed that because there is no paywall, that lots of people visit it for news / reviews*. Their future depends on visitors willing to spend a lot of time on there, due to incredibly low physical sales.
* I do daily, where as I virtually never visit the Sun / Mirror / Indy.
But as shock about Mackay’s conduct reverberated around Holyrood, questions also emerged about the timing of Sturgeon’s actions. Today it emerged that the Scottish Sun first told Sturgeon’s office about its plans to publish Mackay’s messages at about 5.30pm on Wednesday, putting in train an urgent series of conversations between Sturgeon, Mackay and SNP lawyers.
Sturgeon’s official spokesman confirmed on Thursday afternoon that Alan Muir, the Scottish Sun’s editor, had telephoned him before 6pm to lay out the substance of the Sun story. Later that evening – her spokesman refused to say when – Mackay agreed to resign.
It was not until 8am on Thursday, 14 hours after she was told of the allegations and nine hours after the Sun’s stories went online, that Sturgeon announced Mackay’s resignation in a short statement. The spokesman said they wanted to give Mackay time to tell his family about the Sun’s revelations. Yet, despite their acknowledged seriousness, it was not until noon on Thursday that Sturgeon said in an emergency statement that he had also been suspended from the SNP.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/06/derek-mackays-resignation-may-derail-snps-policy-agenda?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet
(Though when the flip happens, it can happen bigly and suddenly. Starmer might not be Blair, but he could easily be the John Smith who lives.)
The average UK cost of ECMO is £45000, and we have 5 adult centres, including here in Leicester. For the severest sepsis and pneumonia it changes 80% mortality to 40%.
I also dispute these are good figures for Starmer in the bigger picture of national politics they are dire.
I would say it’s insane for labour to elect a personality vacuum like Starmer in the age of Boris and Trump where charisma is king, but I can’t because it’s clear to me Starmer doesn’t have a sniff of winning this based on the number of members I know who went off to the hustings to hear Starmer before voting for him, but he was so dire on the hustings and Nandy so impressive Nandy now has their vote. Starmer has been bombing on hustings around the country. As a betting tip, ignore ClP breaking for LongB or Starmer, the member votes are going to Nandy who has this election in the bag.
Lisa Nandy will no doubt be given a role but what does he do with RLB
Just to be clear, I am not trying to suggest the Chinese are lying about the overall situation, more that 50 million people are in lock down on the say so of the government. It is really important they maintain confidence in the authorities.
With all due respect, that's a completely made up number given that Indian GDP in 1947 was just 93.7bn Rupees. Using INR 5 : $1, we come up with a 1947 GDP of approximately $20bn (or maybe a little less).
If we assume that Indian GDP did not grow during the preceding 150 years, then the total economic output of India was around $3trillion over the period.
Now, the British (and the Scots, who led the British Empire in much of the world) were a rapacious bunch. But I think they'd have struggled to steal more than thirteen times the cumulative economic output of India for 150 odd years.
https://twitter.com/Daily_Record/status/1225555292106170368?s=20
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
CNN is Trump impeachment, Romney, Trump State of the Union, Ivana Trump, WWE
Fox News is Trump Impeachment, Warren Loses Staff in Nevada, and Clinton possible as VP pick for Dems.
Iowa is off the headlines.
More stealth income taxes - no inflation rise in allowance for competent workers.
It should also be noted that the British rule of India was not a "them" from the Scottish perspective. Scots were overrepresented in both the East India Company and as administrators of the British Raj. Places like Burma were run almost entirely by Scots. The industrial success of a place like Glasgow was built off colonial, particularly Indian, trade.
It may simply be that those infected at the seafood market were mostly middle aged men, being the workforce there. Chinese men, but not women, have a high rate of smoking, which may contribute to severity.
The 10% fatality rate in that Lancet report is rather alarming.
https://twitter.com/samlove8888/status/1225557340251918352?s=20
No one can doubt though that in the two centuries of British trade with India we systematically ran down Indian manufactures in favour of British ones.
https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/this-economist-says-britain-took-away-usd-45-trillion-from-india-in-173-years/story/292352.html
Warrington - Burtonwood and Winwick
Alex Abbey (Labour) 753 votes
Paul Campbell (Tory) 469 votes
Trevor Nicholls (independent) 56 votes
Labour hold
Yet again, dire figures on CLP nominations for Starmer at tonight's CLP meetings.
Starmer 35
Long Bailey 19
Nandy 9
Thornberry 1
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/5257694/derek-mackay-boy-texts-scandal-msp-nicola-sturgeon/
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5256261/derek-mackay-golden-goodbye-resettlement-money/
“Liberal Democrat MP Chuka Umunna signalled his party could be flexible over their date of 9 December, but said it "cannot be the 12th"
https://news.sky.com/story/snp-want-16-and-17-year-olds-to-have-vote-in-christmas-election-11848129
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/28/angela-rayner-shadow-education-secretary-interview
"Rayner has been loyal to Corbyn, but she does not define herself as a Corbynista and backed Andy Burnham in the 2015 leadership election: “I’m Labour through and through, and I wouldn’t define myself by a particular leader.” She is a socialist, but less ideological one than some of her colleagues. “Ideology never put food on my table,” she says. She has successfully scuppered Theresa May’s flagship policy to build a new generation of grammar schools, but doesn’t propose abolishing existing ones because that would mean destroying good schools. She makes an economic case for better education, health and social care, arguing that early intervention and proper support will save money in the long run. She even praises Blair for winning three elections. “I’ve been considered rightwing, moderate, hard left,” she says. “I see myself as soft left. I’m very pragmatic. I’m interested in how we can change lives for the better; how we can we put socialism into practice. Every time we expend energy on fighting each other, we’re letting down the people that need us the most.”"
So, $20bn in 1947 is worth $120bn in 2020. Let's assume no economic growth for 150 years (which is unbelievably generous to the man making the assumption), and you still only get cumulative economic output over 150 years of $18 trillion.
In other words, even if every cent of every Indian's economic output was stolen by the British (which it wasn't), it would still only come to a total $18 trillion.
Is this story just being treated by the Tories as sh*tposting banter?
That's double counting. Because the interest rate is principally about making up for losses due to inflation.
Some context would help and whatever else happens we are far better medically equipped to deal with it and with far better sanitation than our ancestors had then
https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1225471996701609984?s=20
https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1225558797529288705?s=20
Labour has a future if she breaks away?
Will there be a brand new NEC?
I know leader and deputy leader are on NEC - so they will obviously change. But what about Shadow Cabinet and PLP representatives?
And also what about the Unions? If Starmer wins, presumably it's more likely the likes of Unison will nominate people onto NEC who will back him (albeit current people may back him anyway). Unions are important as they have a lot of people on the NEC.
I think previously reported that Corbyn has recommended 8 new Peers - one of which was Bercow - unclear if he would sit as Lab (albeit his chances may now be slim anyway).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMy86XCm9ls
The point of it is to make people to discuss it, even if they are only shitting on the number and it's working. See also 350m on the side of a bus.
Labour are the self-appointed guardians of people who have just told them to bugger off, with their self-serving condescension. They've been found out.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
It's also unfortunate for that argument that land taxation decreased during the colonial period from what the Mughals used to charge - from about 15% of income down to about 1% - and we don't hear very much about them.
The real issue was that the Indian population grew at the same rate as the economy over the period, meaning per capita incomes didn't change very much.
https://twitter.com/solankesanjay/status/1221807294926614528?s=21
The mortality rate seems lower than projected then though.