In more important news today, to drop Quinton de Kock once may be considered a misfortune, to do it twice looks like carelessness. But three times is just asking for it.
I've noticed that you rather like talking about de Kock.
And I don't blame you one iota.
I’m always trying to get de Kock out.
And I try to help England’s cricketers as much as I can as well.
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly
This does not fit with my experience. Many brexiteers in the North East who voted Con in the GE have told me they like Keir Starmer.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
Yes, I teach the little bastards to think for themselves, question everything and always find evidence.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
Have things calmed down in your current employment? Hope so.
In more important news today, to drop Quinton de Kock once may be considered a misfortune, to do it twice looks like carelessness. But three times is just asking for it.
I've noticed that you rather like talking about de Kock. And I don't blame you one iota.
What is the difference between the PM and the English cricket team?
Something to do with opportunities to get de Kock out, presumably ?
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly
This does not fit with my experience. Many brexiteers in the North East who voted Con in the GE have told me they like Keir Starmer.
Whether they’ll vote for him is another matter.
From a distance SKS seems reasonably intelligent, more than reasonably articulate and reasonably reasonable. Closer exposure may diminish these perceptions somewhat but on all 3 counts he is so far ahead of Corbyn as to be out of sight.
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly
This does not fit with my experience. Many brexiteers in the North East who voted Con in the GE have told me they like Keir Starmer.
Whether they’ll vote for him is another matter.
He is a London remain voting labour mp and I just do not see him connecting as well as Lisa would, but then it is upto labour members
Pidcock bashing again, I see, when I pop in to say a cheery hello. Hugely disappointing and such a mood killer. Sounds like nobody on here wants to be friends with her either.
All that stuff is just knockabout slapstick for the faithful. Here is the important quote from her -
‘We lost the argument and we have to understand why."
Anyone know if today’s Labour hustings in Liverpool is available to stream anywhere? I know it was live but there does not appear to be a catch-up version.
YouTube.
Thank you. Within 2 minutes the moderator is pissing me off. Thinks Liverpool “does things differently” by electing 5 Labour MPs whilst other strongholds didn’t.
Reality check: Liverpool is a major city. Almost all major cities returned Labour MPs.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
Yes, I teach the little bastards to think for themselves, question everything and always find evidence.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
Have things calmed down in your current employment? Hope so.
No. But I am at the stage where I no longer care very much. Let them bugger it all up and sort it out next year, probably without me.
So much for it being an expression of mere youthful hyperbole as some have speculated. She really seems to believe it. She's 32 for crying out loud, not a child.
TBH I think that Tariq Ali has some sense on his side when he calls for a Labour newspaper, even if only on line. We've already seen the Heil suggesting that Starmer's parents have an Aga, and therefore are middle-class, and subsequently having to admit they were wrong.
Pidcock's an idiot though, if she doesn't think that JC's well publicised views are not significantly to blame.
That Labour need a strategy and a leader to overcome a hostile media - even if not in that way - is not unreasonable, although it does show that despite their claims Corbyn did fail because he did not manage that, but Pidcock seems to be someone just defined by hatred, it is pitiable. To their credit, while being ardently opposed to the Tories I haven't got the impression any of the leadership candidates are that full of bile and silliness.
Labour by and large have loads of media on their side. Their problem is that rather fewer people want to buy it. But Corbyn managed even to lose first the BBC and then the Guardian. He lost the New Statesman! That takes effort. Even Channel 4 news found one or two issues with him. Just notice that the extreme left are unable to up up a single reasonably decent candidate under the age of about 70. I think this may be telling us something. Even Laura Pidcock seems to have been a serious contender until 19900 voters she had never kissed turfed her out. My goodness.
Pidcock bashing again, I see, when I pop in to say a cheery hello. Hugely disappointing and such a mood killer. Sounds like nobody on here wants to be friends with her either.
All that stuff is just knockabout slapstick for the faithful. Here is the important quote from her -
‘We lost the argument and we have to understand why."
How dare she go against the Glorious Leader, who has said that Labour won the argument?
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
Yes, I teach the little bastards to think for themselves, question everything and always find evidence.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
Have things calmed down in your current employment? Hope so.
No. But I am at the stage where I no longer care very much. Let them bugger it all up and sort it out next year, probably without me.
The school, or the profession ? (You are not the first I’ve heard that from.)
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly.
It isn't your place, that is absolutely right, but opening with the sentiment does in my book buy you a few lines.
Starmer nailed on it would appear. Fine by me. Not dull.
The politics of the students union (6th form version), It’s. possible that she will become an intellectual adult at some point. Time is running against her though.
Her loss was a mixed blessing for Conservatives.
On behalf of my sixth formers, I protest. They show far more dignity, respect and willingness to engage with the world around them than Pidcock ever has.
I thought it was a teacher's job to knock that out of them, and indoctrinate them into the glories of international socialism to boot, I read that on the internet - you are quite lax, sir.
Yes, I teach the little bastards to think for themselves, question everything and always find evidence.
It’s very wrong of me. It did actually cost me a job once when I applied for a role in an LEA school.
Have things calmed down in your current employment? Hope so.
No. But I am at the stage where I no longer care very much. Let them bugger it all up and sort it out next year, probably without me.
The school, or the profession ? (You are not the first I’ve heard that from.)
The first, definitely.
The second, I am still pondering. It may depend a bit on whether I get a job before I quit or afterwards.
Totally O/t but I had an odd phone call today. Looked like a mobile number, so could have been one of the grandchildren, but then the guy was obviously Asian. I asked him to state his business and he asked me if I spoke Hindi. I said I knew a few words, such as mufti and khaki and he then said some thing in Hindi and asked me to repeat it, saying he wanted to teach me a little Hindi. I replied in (not very good) Welsh and he started laughing. Not at my Welsh, but because he'd never heard the language. I then closed down the call. Anyone any idea what the guy was after?
He probably wanted you to say in Hindi, I bequeath you all my worldly goods......
There's a trend recently towards attempted ID theft by voice stealing. Because increasing numbers of people and businesses are using voice recognition for security, if someone can get you to give clearance for something in what is authentically your voice, they can then use it, potentially, to steal something from one of your accounts. It's normally done with fake calls from businesses or instutions with recorded messages asking you to respond, but I suppose it could be potentially done just by talking on the phone too.
It is not really my place to comment on the labour leadership contest but as it looks from an outsider Lisa Nandy is the only one with any sense of the magnitude of the problem and I am of the opinion that she would take labour back to a point where they could contest the 'red wall' seats in five years
The rest are either tainted with the last labour opposition, and Corbyn in particular with two of them from the London remain elite, or in Jess Phillips is a dreamer
Even though it could cause the conservatives problems in the future, I hope Lisa wins through, but it is more likely labour will shoot themselves in the foot once again, sadly.
It isn't your place, that is absolutely right, but opening with the sentiment does in my book buy you a few lines.
Starmer nailed on it would appear. Fine by me. Not dull.
It does look like it , but he has a charisma by pass and dull is very much one of his characteristics.
Answers should include the phrase "getting de Kock out." Fnaaar.
Yes. I racked my brains for a few minutes trying to come up with something which avoided using that fast becoming iconic phrase and then I gave up. It cannot be improved upon. It's very funny no matter how obvious it is or how many times you hear it. One literally never gets tired of "getting de Kock out". See?
Answers should include the phrase "getting de Kock out." Fnaaar.
Yes. I racked my brains for a few minutes trying to come up with something which avoided using that fast becoming iconic phrase and then I gave up. It cannot be improved upon. It's very funny no matter how obvious it is or how many times you hear it. One literally never gets tired of "getting de Kock out". See?
As a Prostate cancer sufferer, slough probably well out danger (I’ll know in a few days) the problem has been getting de Koek in, not out. The days of in are long, long past!
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And I try to help England’s cricketers as much as I can as well.
Whether they’ll vote for him is another matter.
All that stuff is just knockabout slapstick for the faithful. Here is the important quote from her -
‘We lost the argument and we have to understand why."
Reality check: Liverpool is a major city. Almost all major cities returned Labour MPs.
(You are not the first I’ve heard that from.)
Starmer nailed on it would appear. Fine by me. Not dull.
The second, I am still pondering. It may depend a bit on whether I get a job before I quit or afterwards.
nominated Richard Burgon for leader
Sadly.
Good luck with the "in a few days" ☺