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Bath MP @Wera_Hobhouse tells our political correspondent @davidbevanwood that she might run to become the next leader of the Liberal Democrats. ??? pic.twitter.com/nwsoob8yp9
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My view is no, so good bet.
Those haters have just had a general election - where the haters got smashed.
The sensible remainers will move on and will let their wounds heal. A small minority will continue to pick at them. They will end up with disfiguring scars, but not much else to show for it.
Never knew that.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html
Total fucking Chernobylising doesn't begin to describe their meltdown. I wonder if some of them might do themselves a mischief on Brexit Day.
And how long and how far will the fall-out disperse?
Harry Harris has been criticised for his facial hair, which reminds many South Koreans of the days of Japanese colonial rule
Tensions may be running high on the Korean peninsula, but Harry Harris’s facial hair is vying with denuclearisation as the defining theme of his tenure as US ambassador to South Korea.
Harris, a former navy admiral who was born in Japan to a Japanese mother and an American navy officer, has been accused of insulting his hosts by growing a moustache that reminds many South Koreans of the days of Japanese colonial rule.
Japan’s 1910-45 rule over the Korean peninsula is a continuing source of resentment in South Korea, whose relations with its neighbour plummeted last year amid disputes connected to their bitter wartime history.
Social media users in South Korea launched their criticism of Harris’s appearance soon after he was appointed in July 2018, with some noting that during colonial rule all eight Japanese governors-general had sported moustaches.
The 63-year-old Harris told reporters in Seoul last week that he was being singled out because of his background.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/us-ambassadors-moustache-gets-up-south-koreas-nose
https://twitter.com/CricketMirror/status/1218096542491521024
We've had to listen to endless Remainer snobbery, sneering and generalised stupid twattishness for three and half years. Suddenly it is all worth it. Payback time!
Vote Tory, get Poorhouse
I wonder if the LD membership might quite like the idea of a foreign-born leader. A very global cosmopolitan gesture.
Conversion therapy center founder who sought to turn LGBTQ Christians straight says he’s gay, rejects ‘cycle of self shame’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/09/03/conversion-therapy-center-founder-who-sought-turn-lgbtq-christians-straight-now-says-hes-gay-rejects-cycle-shame/
Since, of course, as pointed out Boris is no Cromwell, might be sooner.
I should have seen the bigger picture. I envy those who had the courage, class and piercing intelligence to vote Leave: they saw the world with greater clarity than I.
Respect where it's due, therefore, for people like SeanT. You often accuse me of being him, but this is just one example of how he is a much nobler and smarter human being than me, or indeed anyone else on here, or maybe anyone else in western Europe.
All I can do now is say Sorry, Britain, and work to make the country better, as we break free.
As to the Remainer stuff it's classic projection on the one hand and Stockholm Syndrome on the other. Try as you and @HYUFD might, you are still diehard Remainers and no Leaver will forgive you for that.
We’ve had a constitutional and not absolute monarchy ever seen. So Cromwell was far from pointless and indeed still has (Remainer) fans on here to this day.
Going for the status quo ante bellum, or even worse building on it by going even further into the EU, is never going to work in achieving a consensus.
It’s just an expression of a desire for revenge.
Just one of the many fascinating aspects of Remainer Psychology is how they just don't get it. They simply don't understand Brexit, at root, and they do not - it seems - possess the mental skill-set to EVER grasp why or how it happened.
eg They think if they can just point to some alleged economic negative, and say "Look tariffs on blah blah blah will be 5.6% and we will lose £2901 per head every night" then they have won the argument, and every Leaver who is unpersuaded is necessarily stupid, and probably a racist.
My guess is that this rank Remainer idiocy, combined with their moral sneering, would have lost them a second vote, if they'd ever been clever enough to achieve one (they weren't).
It's probably for the best that they didn't get what they wished for. A second traumatic defeat might have triggered a Remainer Masada
The LDs need somebody who can make a lot of noise (which does not mean shouty) and catch media attention right now. Hobhouse (on photos) looks vaguely telegenic, although she needs to fix her teeth. Can she speak well? No idea. Is she another Swinson or can she do more than shouty?
Kudos.
This will rise to a peak on 11pm Jan 31. Hardcore Remainers are probably best advised to abstain from social media. or indeed social intercourse, until that day is past.
And then - to be serious - on Feb 1 we need to reunite as a country. It won't be easy. After all this bitterness (on both sides). But it is our only hope.
And naturally Remainers are entitled to start the campaign to Rejoin, and if they do so, then good luck to them. Going on past examples it should take them about five decades.
He is a genuine Northerner, avoided being contaminated by the coalition, and actually gained seats at election. A bit of clarity on sin and he should be fine. He is one of the LDs best communicators.
Believe in the second coming...
If only you had had the chance to make the case for "the best option for us", eh? But you were blocked off from view of the voters by a cunningly parked bus...
Touched by Grace?
Wouldn't a four part split be better ?
West Notts - Ashfield and Mansfield
North / East Notts - Bassetlaw and Newark
South Notts - Broxtowe, Gedling and Rushcliffe (minus West Bridgeford)
Nottingham - Nottingham plus West Bridgeford
Perhaps with parts of Broxtowe (Eastwood) and Gedling (Calverton and Ravenshead) transferred into West Notts.
Trump was voted in after all.
https://twitter.com/ElectCalculus/status/1217786623087333378?s=19
With the rest either being Scottish Unionists or Thames Valley poshos.
And that's with their ridiculous Revoke Policy.
As I said yesterday, the post-Brexit political landscape gives them a natural and unique space: to be the Referendum and Rejoin party.
Labour will be too scared to go there, Labour might even be too scared to go for the EEA/EFTA option. Who knows.
So Lib Dems should cheer up and start organising a Vote and Rejoin manifesto, and they could and should prosper.
Go ahead, elect Starmer. We can all come back in three years and do it all again. THEN you might listen about Nandy cutting through.
Dire.
And we still haven't discussed or worked out the alternatives. This is piss-poor decision-making
Oh.
Regarding the IRA/Corbyn link: Isn't the theory that Corbyn's IRA sympathies (despite being fairly obvious) hadn't really made much of an impact until this election. I remember reading an article (maybe the New Statesman) saying a lot of people were surprised when Boris brought up the IRA in a leaders debate.
But then you had Labour canvassers saying it was being mentioned more and more on the doorstep, and it appears to have been heavily pushed in targeted social media advertising/groups. Not exactly dark web, but a sign that a political party can now target sympathetic groups "under the radar", which makes rebuttal a lot harder.
eg Germany, Italy, Austria.
So blaming it on Brexit doesn't necessarily wash (tho it MUST be a factor). But Boris and Dom need to start spending that cash soon, to get the economy motoring.
But OK, I hear you. I'm still vacillating between Starmer and Nandy. My 3rd pref is a done deal. Thornberry. Not quite right for leader but she has to podium.
However, it is now being addressed.
It is now, in part, resolved.
There are other signs that life IS returning. eg House Prices
https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/economics/12603-uk-house-prices-in-fastest-increase-in-13-years-more-gains-seen-in-2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51127329
I get that many people don't want to see property prices rising again, and I understand that, but they are often an early indicator of renewed economic confidence. We shall see.
The other problem is that Leavers promised us sunlit uplands, and success equals performance minus anticipation.
As the old maxim goes oppositions don't win elections, governments lose them, so we could see a normal cyclical recession usher in a pro EU Labour led government.
Won't that be fun.
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1217879812322230274?s=20
When we look back on the radioactive rubble of the Johnson premiership we won't be able to say the signs weren't there from the start...
A good bet at the odds - do I expect it to be a winning bet? No, in all honesty.
As you say, Wera starts from the position of being the most entrenched LD MP (as, I think, was Tim Farron after 2015). I confess I don't know a lot about her or her stance on the key issues.
I suspect Daisy Cooper won't run and I also suspect Layla Moran won't either so it may be a Davey-Hobhouse contest which will be very interesting.
As to who I would vote for, as always I'll attend the Hustings and make up my mind after listening to the candidates,
We could create a whole new meaning for the word - if you make a huge mistake, you could say "I've just made a Brexit".
‘Peak’ comes at the end of the month. After that, it turns into meeting expectations.
https://twitter.com/SWP_Roads/status/1217939621033795584