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The next General Election has already been calculated..and the Tories win! Will @MSmithsonPB hand over the £100 now? http://t.co/gG5qwH5mOS
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Publishing PB Threads on a train, where the service ranges from 4G to no service at all is a challenge.
Form a government/most seats/most votes, most votes/seats in continuing UK.....watch from opposition as Labour preside over housing bubble (© tim) collapse?
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@SouthamObserver
We argued about Arsenal and Spurs success/spending/wages a while ago, here is quite an interesting article about Arsenals spending (transfers & wages) in the Wenger years.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/10/24/arsene-wenger-what-is-he-good-for-251001/
Very interesting. Look at the wages spend. Spurs are so far (hundreds of millions) below the others.
To be fair you would expect a team constantly in the top 4 / winning trophies to pay their players more than one finishing between 5th & 14th... no performance related bonus payments must make a big difference for starters!
Bloody Tories and their austerity.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513820/Ian-Watkins-Lostprophets-singer-pleads-GUILTY-attempted-rape-baby.html
"They also spoke of plans to blow crystal-meth smoke into the child's face at a secret meet up in a Cardiff hotel.
And on March 23, Watkins sent the woman a message saying he wanted a 'summer of filthy child porn' and how he wanted to take things 'to the next level'.
Mr Clee also gave details of a sickening 17-minute video involving Watkins and Woman A.
Mr Clee said camcorder footage was shot in a London hotel room which showed Watkins perform a sex act on the child."
"Not all bad then Roger"
No not all bad.That was what was so chilling. The sheer normality of it.They spoke voluntarily to an Israeli interviewer so you could say they had a conscience. But putting yourself in the mind of the Palestinians you could understand fear beyond imagination.
cont...
Very interesting comment from the director that you added. I as a viewer found it profound and depressing and ironically was the reason for my irritation with Max. It was the nuanced horror and the moral dilemmas that made his comments about paedophiles seem so childish. (I only watched it a couple of days ago)
Some poor shrink is going to have to deal with the guy, once he survives his first week of a life sentence.
MT @tnewtondunn: Andrew Mitchell tells @Channel4News he has "an understanding" with PM that he will get his Cabinet minister's job back.
Edit - Perhaps not, see Carlotta's and RichardTyndall's comments above.
I just watched that interview in full and when he was asked that question he refused to answer and all he would say was that he was in contact with Cameron and would like to serve again. He emphatically did not say he would be getting his job back.
The chances of so many policemen being involved in a conspiracy? I think that would stretch the credibility even of Tapestry.
It can be everyone just reacting to what was going on. Which, if anything, is more worrying for us ordinary plebs in our dealings with the police.
I agree, Mitchell was on form.
Don't even get me started on Jean Charles De Menenez
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-360051/Tube-CCTV-Was-cover-up.html
This site's in dire need of an ED IS CRAP thread.
It's not like it's a pre-planned conspiracy, but someone does something stupid because Mitchell pisses them off, others get involved and before you know it it is a national issue, then the Police Federation outright lie about something tangentially connected to advance their own cause, then the lies start to unravel...and so on.
The CPS comments on the CCTV being edited are very interesting and need to be looked at, but the account put forward by Mitchell comes across as far more credible given that several police in the situation have, even the timid CPS believe, been either outright incorrect (as in the case of the one charged), or otherwise involved in activities which amount to gross misconduct.
Not quite sure they are stating the footage was edited.
Either he lied about what Mitchell said and did, or he was complicit in taking actions amounting to misconduct designed to ruin Mitchell for what Mitchell did say, or he had nothing to do with any of the misconduct but is apparently totally clueless as he was unable to shorten the investigation by a year and point out who the only people who could have leaked the information were.
One thing is for certain, the Police Federation cannot claim to be outraged even if Mitchell is outright lying and accusing PC Rowland of falsity, given their own behaviour in the affair.
http://blog.cps.gov.uk/2013/11/cps-decisions-in-operation-alice-incident-at-downing-street-on-19-september-2012.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25101706
That's not quite the same as child murder let alone deliberately harming a child for sexual gratification.
Yes - murderers and paedophiles are human and have done great evil. We all have the capacity to do good or evil. The difference between us and those who commit evil acts is that some give in to their desires and others don't. We are all moral agents and we can choose between good and evil. And if we choose evil then justice demands punishment.
The BBC report that the CPS had footage from 5 cameras whereas Channel 4 had 3 camera angles.
Again I would imagine for prosecution purposes,the CPS would have gotten hold of the original recordings whereas Channel 4 probably had copies.
Can't say I'm surprised; they don't like smart punters.
So the fact that they are not proceeding does not tell us conclusively one way or the other who is right or wrong. However I remain of the view that Andrew Mitchell should quit while he is ahead. He has made - and largely won - his point i.e. that the police do not appear to have been truthful about what went on and some have used it for their own purposes in what is an abuse of their power.
He would do better, IMO, to use this experience to campaign for others - less well known, less well connected - who have suffered similar or much worse abuses of powers by the police. That would do much to redeem the impression that senior Tories are only bothered by police abuse when it happens to them and not when it happens to the rest of us, particularly when the rest of us largely means young black men.
Perhaps someone senior and sensible within the Tories could have a quiet word with him. Or maybe he could read this blog.
Question for any Nats lurking; are you still as vehemently anti-nuke as you were yesterday?
So he may well be following your advice, but the 'campaign' is to make sure his own case gets taken through to its conclusion as an example and message to the police and those who have suffered at their hands in such ways.
OK I hadn't seen that. I just think that stepping back a bit and giving more details of these other cases may be more helpful now than just talking about himself. He wants to give the impression that he is bothered about them and not just using them to help him in his battle.
"Because of the bragging rights of winning against Mike? (And of course the impossibility of getting on a bet with Victor..)"
Be kind to Victor. He's an Old Millfieldian. His old headmaster being a compulsive gambler taught him all he knows
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittlesey
My friend moved there by mistake. He took me to "The least scary pub". It was scary.
Go and see.
Incidentally, Sir Harry Smith is buried there.
And we don't need to in order to have an intelligent discussion about the nature of good/evil, what it means to be a moral agent, punishment and the rest.
I make no apologies for asking - really as a matter of decency and personal taste.
Not sure Eck will be pleased with that one...
That's no mean feat.
And for LifeInAMarketTown (and others) - We will allow comments about what sort of sentencing he can expect, can we just not go into the specific/graphic details of his crimes/acts.
Andy Murray 1/28 (Coral)
Mo Farah 25/1
Tony McCoy 40/1
Ben Ainslie 100/1
Chris Froome 100/1
Bit horrifying to see Christine Ohuruogu in the top ten. She was thrice guilty of dodging drugs tests and consequently banned.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2513819/Mystery-missing-Hanging-Gardens-Babylon-solved-Expert-claims-elusive-wonder-world.html
Dangerous thing nationalism - once it's out of the box all sorts of poison seeps out.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrFxWoWbqL8&
Sign the epetition here:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/52740
A very long way from today's debates (I hope)...
I'm heading home from East Ham tube and I stop in the corner shop to get some milk. Balloons are being taken down outside so I ask what was the occasion. The shopkeeper said "it is our leader's 59th birthday" and he showed a picture of a crowd outside the shop which he proudly said was 150 strong.
I mouthed some platitude and went home with my milk. I got home and did some research and came up with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velupillai_Prabhakaran#Death
It may be over in Sri Lanka but for many Tamils in the UK it clearly isn't.
I've never quite understood.