A state broadband monopoly would be an outstanding way of exercising control over the population. Are you an enemy of the state? Suddenly your service is unavailable.
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
Free computers as well? After all, the former is pretty useless without the latter...
I know you're being sarcastic but yeah, throw in a cheapo android tablet for any house that doesn't already have a computer or smartphone, it won't cost much and you'll save money from being able to deliver more government services purely online.
Cheap android tablets: why do you really hate your fellow countrymen?
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
Vote SCon if you believe in a United kingdom Vote SNP if you believe in an Independent Scotland part of the United States of Europe Vote SLib if you believe in revoking article 50
Vote SLAB if you want to waste your vote!
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability.
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit - but if push comes to shove, you would cosy up with Labour and the SNP to facilitate the break up of the UK and some weird rambling renegotiation and revote on Brexit, if it meant even a sniff of power again SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
Except the Lib Dem’s aren’t your Party. Are they Rose? 😉
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
Firstly, it won't be "free". We'll still pay, but through taxes rather than bills.
Secondly, what about people who don't want the allegedly free package? What if they want a more basic service (as they don't stream videos etc - just use email) or do not want it at all?
Thirdly, what do businesses do? The plan is presumably for households, but do businesses requiring dedicated, high capacity services also go via this nationalised business, and how does the pricing work?
Fourthly, the cost high speed broadband to the final couple of percent in very rural, hard to reach areas is astronomical. Is it really worth it? To a large extent, living in those areas is a choice - the broadband isn't as good, but there are other benefits and a lot of people just don't care about video streaming.
Fifthly, what evidence is there that the Government would run this more effectively than the private sector, that they'd be quicker at rolling out infrastructure or fixing faults?
Having posted negatively about it....... quite early in the morning........ I was impressed by the analogy of water and sewage. There are places without mains water and without connections to the sewer system but they are very unusual.
There are a significant number of houses without mains sewer services including whole villages but I can’t find data on this. No mains water is about 0.14% in England and Wales.
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
But she'll still vote Tory.
Cuz Corbyn.
Well keep telling yourself that, but I wonder ... as I suspect you do too really
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
I believe that’s called “English irony”
Nah. There was real venom in her words.
Maybe she hates diehard remoaners with all her might?
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
There are a significant number of houses without mains sewer services including whole villages but I can’t find data on this. No mains water is about 0.14% in England and Wales.
The house in Japan I'm about to move into (not in Tokyo) has no sewer and when I bought it there was no septic tank either, the toilets emptied directly into a hole in the ground. But it came with gigabit fiber obviously, we're not savages.
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
"Swinson has the the largest number, 33%, saying don’t know and that should get smaller during the campaign."
Oh, I wouldn't be too sure about that ... millions of voters are likely to be confused, perplexed, angry even that a so-called democratic and liberal party have denied what it says on the can by promising to revoke Article 50, just like that, without even so much as a second referendum, offering a leave option which was voted for by a majority, totalling in excess of 17 million. Nothing very democratic or liberal about that, which probably largely explains the sharp decline in the party's fortunes over the past few weeks and why the likes of the spread-betting firms have chopped their prices for LD seats by around 25% from the high forties then to the mid thirties now ... shame really, it was looking so positive for them just a few weeks ago.
I think that - even if Jo Swinson had not made her foolish and undemocratic pledge - then the LibDem seat markets would have declined. Simply, the mid-40s number was always absurd.
Indeed, anything above around 31-32 is incredibly difficult for the LDs, unless there is a major shift from Labour.
Why is it “undemocratic” ? It could only happen with a Lib Dem majority. I don’t see any way of that remotely happening without at least half of the electorate deciding that they wish to revoke.
Vote SCon if you believe in a United kingdom Vote SNP if you believe in an Independent Scotland part of the United States of Europe Vote SLib if you believe in revoking article 50
Vote SLAB if you want to waste your vote!
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability.
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit - but if push comes to shove, you would cosy up with Labour and the SNP to facilitate the break up of the UK and some weird rambling renegotiation and revote on Brexit, if it meant even a sniff of power again SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
I used to live in Surbiton many years ago , indeed at the time Davey first won there by 52 votes . I switched from Labour to the Lib Dems and was very happy that my vote could have made all the difference . I’ve bumped into Davey a few times in the local shops, he’s a really nice guy , always willing to stop and chat.
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
Now we know you are lying. NOBODY likes Ed Davey.....
Why is it “undemocratic” ? It could only happen with a Lib Dem majority. I don’t see any way of that remotely happening without at least half of the electorate deciding that they wish to revoke.
Not to mention if people think that's undemocratic, try asking them to vote in a referendum with the choice of either Remain or a deal negotiated by Prime Minister Jo "Bollocks to Brexit" Swinson.
Hi all. First post. A political betting related question..... Bet Victor have Labour on 6/4 on getting over 219.5 seats. Doesn’t that seem very good odds? The chances of labour worse than 219 is approaching con landslide territory.
In other news, Arriva have decided in all their infinite wisdom to run my morning bus as a single decker rather than a double decker and now its grim AF.
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
But she'll still vote Tory.
Cuz Corbyn.
Well keep telling yourself that, but I wonder ... as I suspect you do too really
If Wimbledon does go LD (full disclosure: I’m on) I’ve got a feeling it will get just as much coverage in the broadcast media as the results around the rest of the country, even if a solid Tory majority is achieved.
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
But she'll still vote Tory.
Cuz Corbyn.
Well keep telling yourself that, but I wonder ... as I suspect you do too really
No. We don’t. We really don’t.
Remember that Corbyn for all his front is a man who:
1) Donates to Holocaust deniers; 2) Supports terrorism; 3) Helps cover up for child sexual abusers; 4) Appoints senior officials on the basis they are in a sexual relationship with one of his key allies; 5) Proposes a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich through huge unfunded borrowing; 6) Is a fluent and pathological liar who will say absolutely anything to make himself popular with his target group; 7) Is extremely stupid, having got 2 Es at A-level in the 1960s and failed a polytechnic course (he felt the need to lie about the latter as well); 8) Cannot realistically be removed from office except by resignation.
Now any reasonable person will spot 4-6 covers Johnson too, and you could make a case for 2 and a variant of 1. But the rest, Corbyn owns entirely.
And until you understand that it is impossible for any reasonable person who has seen this side of his character to vote for him or any party that may support him, you are the one who will struggle to understand the result on election night.
Boris Johnson is getting away with the political equivalent of murder because Corbyn is far, far, far worse.
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
I used to live in Surbiton many years ago , indeed at the time Davey first won there by 52 votes . I switched from Labour to the Lib Dems and was very happy that my vote could have made all the difference . I’ve bumped into Davey a few times in the local shops, he’s a really nice guy , always willing to stop and chat.
My brother has had similar experiences. Ed Davey's very popular in the constituency as a genuinely nice person and, in my brother's view, 'just a really good local MP.'
It is just bollox, Labour would cock it up and we would end up back to the 70's when you waited up to a year just to get a shared telephone line. How do you think those donkeys will get 20 billion out of Google, facebook, etc. F***ing nutters.
This is where the political genius of it comes in. Facebook will send Nick Clegg around the news studios to explain that Zuck needs to keep all the money for himself, and all the young lefties will remember why they don't vote LibDem.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I didn't watch the video because I didn't want to bring up my breakfast.
Vote SCon if you believe in a United kingdom Vote SNP if you believe in an Independent Scotland part of the United States of Europe Vote SLib if you believe in revoking article 50
Vote SLAB if you want to waste your vote!
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability.
Isn't it:
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit - but if push comes to shove, you would cosy up with Labour and the SNP to facilitate the break up of the UK and some weird rambling renegotiation and revote on Brexit, if it meant even a sniff of power again SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
But she'll still vote Tory.
Cuz Corbyn.
She was from Harborough, a seat that will have quite an LD swing. Bosworth and Hinckley is the local main target, with Harborough second. The seat has been swinging demographically against the Tories for some time, but some way to go yet.
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
In Surrey? Sadly, lots. There are too many from which they start at a low base.
Looking strategically Labour is dominating this campaign, and Brexit is barely being mentioned, even on Brexit obsessed PB. We have had threads where the B word has barely been mentioned.
When the Tories chuck a dead cat on the table, Labour chuck on a dead Lion. They are bonkers yet genius.
I think LDs are doing well by looking the only grown ups in the room, and that is playing well particularly in Southern Remania.
Anecdata of the day. Posh County-set lady in her sixties in my clinic yesterday, I booked a follow up appointment in the Spring. Her spontaneous response: " If we have an NHS after Brexit..."
But she'll still vote Tory.
Cuz Corbyn.
She was from Harborough, a seat that will have quite an LD swing. Bosworth and Hinckley is the local main target, with Harborough second. The seat has been swinging demographically against the Tories for some time, but some way to go yet.
I tell you what, the aftermath of this election will be very interesting.
To hang onto their new pseudo working class voter base the Tories will need to change their policy goals somewhat and theres no guarantee that Remainia ever comes back under those conditions.
Imagine a GE with the majority of marginals in the home counties rather than in the ex industrial midlands?
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Nope. It is from the USA in the 1930s, but it hadn't reached these shores during my and Boris's childhood.
Free computers as well? After all, the former is pretty useless without the latter...
Broadband serves multiple devices, not only computers. Think of it as a free state service. How you tap into it will then be up to you.
I've often thought it should be free. It will foster productivity and therefore for you capitalist-minded types, a great boon to the economy.
And whichever device you use to tap into it, you still have to pay for it, right? So you are still retaining barriers to its use? What is the purpose of making it free? Who pays for the maintenance and future investment in the network if it’s all free? The general taxpayer? What happens when super super super fastplanitum diamond broadband comes along? Does the taxpayer pay for that? Because we’d be falling behind otherwise, right? Just imagine if a Govt had decided this policy should have been introduced in the early days of the internet? We’d be still plodding along at minute internet speeds and miles behind where we are today.
The economic issue is not about broadband (basic, fast, super fast...) being free, it is about coverage/accessibility. Govt has a potential subsidy role in ensuring it reaches areas of the country that will not be delivered by the private sector (because they will not get a return on their investment). But once the coverage is available it should be the users who pay for its general upkeep and improvement. It’s just madness the whole thing. It’s not remotely “capitalist” to say so.
And any remotely deep free trade agreement with the EU (which labour are most definitely claiming they want) will consider this to be state aid. It took three years to get permission for unviable exchange fttc intervention in rural areas and it was only done if open access was available to all suppliers and resellers.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant. What we should expect is that he knows policies and details regarding Government policies, and he doesn’t which is not good. If his opposite number wasn’t Corbyn it would probably matter.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
This is a man obsessed with buses to the extent he makes models of them.
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant. What we should expect is that he knows policies and details regarding Government policies, and he doesn’t which is not good. If his opposite number wasn’t Corbyn it would probably matter.
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant. What we should expect is that he knows policies and details regarding Government policies, and he doesn’t which is not good. If his opposite number wasn’t Corbyn it would probably matter.
We should also expect that he HAVE some policies, ones which are vaguely sane and realistic.
But again, Corbyn is his get out of jail free card.
Have a good morning. In order to do so, please do not think about the appalling choice facing the country.
Free computers as well? After all, the former is pretty useless without the latter...
Broadband serves multiple devices, not only computers. Think of it as a free state service. How you tap into it will then be up to you.
I've often thought it should be free. It will foster productivity and therefore for you capitalist-minded types, a great boon to the economy.
And whichever device you use to tap into it, you still have to pay for it, right? So you are still retaining barriers to its use? What is the purpose of making it free? Who pays for the maintenance and future investment in the network if it’s all free? The general taxpayer? What happens when super super super fastplanitum diamond broadband comes along? Does the taxpayer pay for that? Because we’d be falling behind otherwise, right? Just imagine if a Govt had decided this policy should have been introduced in the early days of the internet? We’d be still plodding along at minute internet speeds and miles behind where we are today.
The economic issue is not about broadband (basic, fast, super fast...) being free, it is about coverage/accessibility. Govt has a potential subsidy role in ensuring it reaches areas of the country that will not be delivered by the private sector (because they will not get a return on their investment). But once the coverage is available it should be the users who pay for its general upkeep and improvement. It’s just madness the whole thing. It’s not remotely “capitalist” to say so.
And any remotely deep free trade agreement with the EU (which labour are most definitely claiming they want) will consider this to be state aid. It took three years to get permission for unviable exchange fttc intervention in rural areas and it was only done if open access was available to all suppliers and resellers.
That is the genius of the policy, it has Brexiteers arguing that we should Remain!
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant.
No it really isn't.
Every single parent watching that will realise that Johnson is a bit of a shit.
If they didn't already.
Character matters. Otherwise you end up with a Richard Nixon or a Donald Trump. Or, indeed, a Boris Johnson.
He's manifestly unsuited to be PM. But, as you rightly point out, the problem is the alternative. For most people Jeremy Corbyn is quite beyond the pale. And Jo Swinson? Untried and being marginalised by the broadcasters.
Can I ask if anyone here knows the likely affect of tactical voting on polls? Do we know if polls are good at picking up that sort of things / models are good at distributing votes in such a way? I'm looking at the trend on Britain Elects and it seems clear that many people who were willing to vote Lab pre EU elections have obviously switched to LD (despite the fact that Lab are now offering a second ref), and that to me just seems a function of the LDs looking like they can win certain seats now. But if those gains are concentrated in the seats LDs are likely to gain, will it negatively impact the national Labour vote that much?
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
My predictions of 34 LibDem seats
Bermondsey and Old Southwark Cambridge Carshalton and Wallington Cheadle Cheltenham Eastbourne Hazel Grove Kingston and Surbiton Leeds North West Lewes North Cornwall North Devon North Norfolk Oxford West and Abingdon Portsmouth South Richmond Park Sheffield, Hallam Southport St Albans St Ives Sutton and Cheam Thornbury and Yate Twickenham Wells Westmorland and Lonsdale Winchester Montgomeryshire Ceredigion Brecon and Radnorshire plus five in Scotland
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant.
No it really isn't.
Every single parent watching that will realise that Johnson is a bit of a shit.
If they didn't already.
Character matters. Otherwise you end up with a Richard Nixon or a Donald Trump. Or, indeed, a Boris Johnson.
He's manifestly unsuited to be PM. But, as you rightly point out, the problem is the alternative. For most people Jeremy Corbyn is quite beyond the pale. And Jo Swinson? Untried and being marginalised by the broadcasters.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
This is a man obsessed with buses to the extent he makes models of them.
That was just so that when you Googled 'Boris Bus' you'd get that rather than the £350million one.
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
TBH I couldn’t give a monkeys if he knows the words to this, baby shark or whatever. It is completely irrelevant. What we should expect is that he knows policies and details regarding Government policies, and he doesn’t which is not good. If his opposite number wasn’t Corbyn it would probably matter.
And that's the issue - we have the politicians we deserve now nobody sane will go near Politics. There are far easier ways to earn money.
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
In none of those seats last night was the consequence Jeremy Corbyn as your PM.....
And I'm not giving the game away about my canvassing results, not even when you're being that patronising. Not for the moment All I will say is that I live in a marginal seat and it's very interesting out there.
Hi all. First post. A political betting related question..... Bet Victor have Labour on 6/4 on getting over 219.5 seats. Doesn’t that seem very good odds? The chances of labour worse than 219 is approaching con landslide territory.
I don't think it is approaching a landslide. Consider... Labour 220 SNP 45 Liberal Democrat 30 NI/Others 25 Total non-Tory 320 Conservatives 330 Official majority of 10
Labour have to be well under 200 for us to be approaching a landslide because there will be so many third party seats.
The problem with Uxbridge & Ruislip is that the LibDems start from an incredible small base: like a lot of those other west London seats north of the river.
Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
The LDs have doubled their vote share on 2017, they did very well in the K&S council elections last year, and it's a Remainiac seat.
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Agreed Robert. It's the seat my brother lives in. Lifelong tory voter, but this time he's voting for Ed Davey. His comment was that he's fed up with the Conservatives, doesn't like Brexit which he thinks is a shambles, and likes Ed Davey.
Now we know you are lying. NOBODY likes Ed Davey.....
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
My predictions of 34 LibDem seats
Bermondsey and Old Southwark Cambridge Carshalton and Wallington Cheadle Cheltenham Eastbourne Hazel Grove Kingston and Surbiton Leeds North West Lewes North Cornwall North Devon North Norfolk Oxford West and Abingdon Portsmouth South Richmond Park Sheffield, Hallam Southport St Albans St Ives Sutton and Cheam Thornbury and Yate Twickenham Wells Westmorland and Lonsdale Winchester Montgomeryshire Ceredigion Brecon and Radnorshire plus five in Scotland
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
My predictions of 34 LibDem seats
Bermondsey and Old Southwark Cambridge Carshalton and Wallington Cheadle Cheltenham Eastbourne Hazel Grove Kingston and Surbiton Leeds North West Lewes North Cornwall North Devon North Norfolk Oxford West and Abingdon Portsmouth South Richmond Park Sheffield, Hallam Southport St Albans St Ives Sutton and Cheam Thornbury and Yate Twickenham Wells Westmorland and Lonsdale Winchester Montgomeryshire Ceredigion Brecon and Radnorshire plus five in Scotland
Wimbledon would be a bonus.
Those are not a bad start, but I would add South Cambs, and would expect some others across Wessex and the Thames Valley. There are other possibilities too such as Berwick.
Hi all. First post. A political betting related question..... Bet Victor have Labour on 6/4 on getting over 219.5 seats. Doesn’t that seem very good odds? The chances of labour worse than 219 is approaching con landslide territory.
I don't think it is approaching a landslide. Consider... Labour 220 SNP 45 Liberal Democrat 30 NI/Others 25 Total non-Tory 320 Conservatives 330 Official majority of 10
Labour have to be well under 200 for us to be approaching a landslide because there will be so many third party seats.
Agreed.
I'd currently favour the tories slightly higher with a majority of about 20-30 but I think with 4 weeks to go that may well narrow further and they may not get one at all.
In none of those seats last night was the consequence Jeremy Corbyn as your PM.....
This is true. OTOH if we get to polling day and the polls are still showing Con up 8 points over Lab then the voters won't be worrying about Jeremy Corbyn PM for that election either, will they?
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
I blame his Nanny.
He probably knows all the words to "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
This one has cautioned against talk of landslides and I know only one poster on here who constantly refers to a landslide result
This election could result in a hung parliament upto a majority conservative adminstration.
The one constant in all this is the haemorrhaging of labour support across all four corners of the UK and it is going to be a very bad night for labour
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
My predictions of 34 LibDem seats
Bermondsey and Old Southwark Cambridge Carshalton and Wallington Cheadle Cheltenham Eastbourne Hazel Grove Kingston and Surbiton Leeds North West Lewes North Cornwall North Devon North Norfolk Oxford West and Abingdon Portsmouth South Richmond Park Sheffield, Hallam Southport St Albans St Ives Sutton and Cheam Thornbury and Yate Twickenham Wells Westmorland and Lonsdale Winchester Montgomeryshire Ceredigion Brecon and Radnorshire plus five in Scotland
Wimbledon would be a bonus.
Those are not a bad start, but I would add South Cambs, and would expect some others across Wessex and the Thames Valley. There are other possibilities too such as Berwick.
And whatever MM tries to convince you, Totnes is in play for Sarah Wollaston. There are lots of others that I think may go yellow. Guildford is a real possibility.
You've also missed some London seats from the list. Islington South looks very good as a LibDem gain from Labour.
What's the backstory on why Britain hasn't already got broadband in the first place? I mean, the poles are already there, they just have to run fiber along them, no? If they can't manage this how did the British ever manage to get telephones?
I think the problem is that we're getting rid of the Poles, and that's making it harder to deploy broadband.
Did Labour not Czech they would have a workforce before making this latest pledge?
If you want an alternative route there are always Swedes.
On topic - if Labour lose big at the election, and working on the asumption that Corbyn steps down, I`ve been looking at the timing of his departure for betting purposes.
The last Labour Party leader process worked as follows:
- 13 May 2015 NEC sets out timetable - time for nominations - time for hustings - ballot papers produced and distributed - 1 month window to vote (to 10th September 2015) - results announced 12th September (I remember that day - I was painting the cobbledash of my parents` bungalow, listening to the results with my head in my hands).
In summary, the process took 4 Months to elect a new leader. If he announced wish to step down on 13th December, and assuming a week for NEC to set up their meeting to decide timetable, this would take us to 20th April for a new leader to be installed.
Corbyn, I argue, would remain leader until a replacement is elected. And Betfair rules state that an acting leader is still counted as the leader.
I draw the following conclusions, but would appreciate your comments on my logic. All bets are with Betfair:
- Corbyn departure date 10/19 - 12/19 - clear LAY at 3.55 - April - June 2020 - BET 7.2 - July 2020 or later - BET 5.4 - 2020 or later - BET 1.36
In none of those seats last night was the consequence Jeremy Corbyn as your PM.....
This is true. OTOH if we get to polling day and the polls are still showing Con up 8 points over Lab then the voters won't be worrying about Jeremy Corbyn PM for that election either, will they?
They will go into the polling booth remembering that exit poll in 2017 and still think "oo-er...."
Here’s an interesting one then. When Labour lose here, and leadership vacancy comes up, the incoming leader has to put anti semitism as doorstep issue to bed ASAP. So, Ed Milliband for leader. His selling point is Elder Statesman, bridging the PLP gap, Jewish decent. His platform is what is written on the Ed Stone, investment borrowing policy apparently to destroy the UK, that is sane compared to what Tory’s and Labour promising to do in 2019!
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
The one constant in all this is the haemorrhaging of labour support across all four corners of the UK and it is going to be a very bad night for labour
Sorry but I'm not even convinced that's true. I think the Labour vote will hold up in unexpected places.
And I fully expect the Labour uptick in the polls to continue as birds come home to roost.
Remember, that for Labour voters Brexit really isn't the biggest deal. We had all this blue working class guff in 2017.
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
The one constant in all this is the haemorrhaging of labour support across all four corners of the UK and it is going to be a very bad night for labour
I thought so too initially, but seeing the response of the public when Johnson goes on tour is quite illuminating. Those WWC CDE voters may want Brexit, and loathe Corbyn, but they seem to dislike the scruffy smirking shit magnet of a PM too.
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
In Surrey? Sadly, lots. There are too many from which they start at a low base.
Even where the LDs have stood down it’s certain the winning MPs will caucus with Jo Swinson’s yellow army regardless of the banner under which they stand.
There’s only one serious national leader in Britain at this seminal moment, and she’ll sweep all before her with her inspirational leadership.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
I blame his Nanny.
He probably knows all the words to "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
In Latin.
Johnson's not as bright as he'd like his wives fan club to think he is.
His 2:1 has always irked him but there's a reason for it. Cut through the bluster and there's not a lot underneath.
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
The one constant in all this is the haemorrhaging of labour support across all four corners of the UK and it is going to be a very bad night for labour
I thought so too initially, but seeing the response of the public when Johnson goes on tour is quite illuminating. Those WWC CDE voters may want Brexit, and loathe Corbyn, but they seem to dislike the scruffy smirking shit magnet of a PM too.
egg: "Here’s an interesting one then. When Labour lose here, and leadership vacancy comes up, the incoming leader has to put anti semitism as doorstep issue to bed ASAP. So, Ed Milliband for leader. His selling point is Elder Statesman, bridging the PLP gap, Jewish decent. His platform is what is written on the Ed Stone, investment borrowing policy apparently to destroy the UK, that is sane compared to what Tory’s and Labour promising to do in 2019!"
It seems to me that LP has a bee its bonnet about electing a female leader next time.
Not being technological, I don't really understand how BT purports to deliver me superfast fibre broadband along the very old telephone cable attached to the side of my house?
I think some of the Surrey near-marginals are in play. Outside flutters on Guildford and Woking. The latter went very yellow at the European Elections and I know people there who think it's turning LibDem.
There may be some other tory seats that are vulnerable. I'm not convinced Esher & Walton is totally safe. Even Epsom & Ewell could see a big swing.
I think the only question is which seats the LDs won’t take.
In Surrey? Sadly, lots. There are too many from which they start at a low base.
Even where the LDs have stood down it’s certain the winning MPs will caucus with Jo Swinson’s yellow army regardless of the banner under which they stand.
There’s only one serious national leader in Britain at this seminal moment, and she’ll sweep all before her with her inspirational leadership.
Here’s an interesting one then. When Labour lose here, and leadership vacancy comes up, the incoming leader has to put anti semitism as doorstep issue to bed ASAP. So, Ed Milliband for leader. His selling point is Elder Statesman, bridging the PLP gap, Jewish decent. His platform is what is written on the Ed Stone, investment borrowing policy apparently to destroy the UK, that is sane compared to what Tory’s and Labour promising to do in 2019!
Labour could do worse but it has to be a woman next
I think the 37% favourable rating for Boris Johnson is about where the Tories voteshare will end up. Interesting though that Swinson on 24% has a higher favourable rating than Corbyn on 22%, if Swinson gets in all the debates and wins her legal challenge to do so Labour could be in real danger of falling to third on voteshare if Swinson shines
On topic - if Labour lose big at the election, and working on the asumption that Corbyn steps down, I`ve been looking at the timing of his departure for betting purposes.
The last Labour Party leader process worked as follows:
- 13 May 2015 NEC sets out timetable - time for nominations - time for hustings - ballot papers produced and distributed - 1 month window to vote (to 10th September 2015) - results announced 12th September (I remember that day - I was painting the cobbledash of my parents` bungalow, listening to the results with my head in my hands).
In summary, the process took 4 Months to elect a new leader. If he announced wish to step down on 13th December, and assuming a week for NEC to set up their meeting to decide timetable, this would take us to 20th April for a new leader to be installed.
Corbyn, I argue, would remain leader until a replacement is elected. And Betfair rules state that an acting leader is still counted as the leader.
I draw the following conclusions, but would appreciate your comments on my logic. All bets are with Betfair:
- Corbyn departure date 10/19 - 12/19 - clear LAY at 3.55 - April - June 2020 - BET 7.2 - July 2020 or later - BET 5.4 - 2020 or later - BET 1.36
I would go for Sept 20, at the party conference. If Labour lose big enough that there is a Tory majority, then there is no urgency. If hung parliament, Jezza will count that as victory.
Really? That's what we're going with? Boris is a duplicitous, bumbling toad of a man who we unfortunately have as PM, but that's what we should focus on?
Besides, anyone attacked as not being of the people can always retort they are for the people.
No, shit dad. I am a bloke with only three children, and I know hundreds of verses of the wheels on the bus. I also know how to use a mop and a microwave. I can even change a nappy. Real men know how to do all these things.
If you look at the video he does know the words (although he is clearly thinking WTF am I doing this for).
He doesn’t know / isn’t doing the hand movements
I would imagine most people learn the words as children not as dads.
Johnson quite clearly did NOT know the words.
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
I blame his Nanny.
He probably knows all the words to "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
In Latin.
Johnson's not as bright as he'd like his wives fan club to think he is.
His 2:1 has always irked him but there's a reason for it. Cut through the bluster and there's not a lot underneath.
Except a huge cock, obvs.
Blair and Thatcher also had seconds as did Attlee. Only Wilson, Cameron, Eden, Brown and Macmillan (though only in his first year before he dropped out) of post-war PMs have got 1sts
John McD wobbling on what will happen to Virgin fibre and others.
Of course he is.
It's a bloody stupid idea.
On the by elections from last night, it is clear the Tories will have to re-gain some remainers from the libdems or they can forget about a workable majority.
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Kingston & Surbiton looks pretty solid for Ed Davey by the way. My tip for the morning.
To those going all Ad Hominem, my loathing for Boris Johnson and my desire to Remain in the EU transcends all party loyalty. I'd vote for Labour in a Con-Lab marginal and I'd vote for my party in a LibDem-Con marginal.
If you don't get that, you won't get the outcome on election night.
SCon if you believe in the UK and Brexit
SNP if you want Scotland to leave the UK
SLib if you believe in the UK and spend every waking moment hating the very thought of Brexit - but if push comes to shove, you would cosy up with Labour and the SNP to facilitate the break up of the UK and some weird rambling renegotiation and revote on Brexit, if it meant even a sniff of power again
SLab if you believe that for too long government has been the preserve of the talented, and in future there should be equal opportunities irrespective of ability
I'd be shocked, staggered, and surprised if Ed Davey lost his seat.
Said what I wanted to, only much better.
Cuz Corbyn.
Sadly, Corbyn is just incompetent and thick!
There lies the problem for this country. A laughing stock we have become.
Woking's the outside bet. I reckon the LibDems will get within 10% of the Cons vote. Which means it's in play.
It could only happen with a Lib Dem majority. I don’t see any way of that remotely happening without at least half of the electorate deciding that they wish to revoke.
Remember that Corbyn for all his front is a man who:
1) Donates to Holocaust deniers;
2) Supports terrorism;
3) Helps cover up for child sexual abusers;
4) Appoints senior officials on the basis they are in a sexual relationship with one of his key allies;
5) Proposes a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich through huge unfunded borrowing;
6) Is a fluent and pathological liar who will say absolutely anything to make himself popular with his target group;
7) Is extremely stupid, having got 2 Es at A-level in the 1960s and failed a polytechnic course (he felt the need to lie about the latter as well);
8) Cannot realistically be removed from office except by resignation.
Now any reasonable person will spot 4-6 covers Johnson too, and you could make a case for 2 and a variant of 1. But the rest, Corbyn owns entirely.
And until you understand that it is impossible for any reasonable person who has seen this side of his character to vote for him or any party that may support him, you are the one who will struggle to understand the result on election night.
Boris Johnson is getting away with the political equivalent of murder because Corbyn is far, far, far worse.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-facebook-state-owned-social-media-bbc-iplayer-privacy-labour-public-ownership-a8504151.html
Am sure there are obvious holes in my nationalisation plan... can you rebut it please!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parliamentary_constituencies_in_Surrey
To hang onto their new pseudo working class voter base the Tories will need to change their policy goals somewhat and theres no guarantee that Remainia ever comes back under those conditions.
Imagine a GE with the majority of marginals in the home counties rather than in the ex industrial midlands?
Any any parent will know those words if they ever do anything with their kids. Take them to parties, go swimming with them, those words are in play the whole time.
But again, Corbyn is his get out of jail free card.
Have a good morning. In order to do so, please do not think about the appalling choice facing the country.
Every single parent watching that will realise that Johnson is a bit of a shit.
If they didn't already.
Character matters. Otherwise you end up with a Richard Nixon or a Donald Trump. Or, indeed, a Boris Johnson.
He's manifestly unsuited to be PM. But, as you rightly point out, the problem is the alternative. For most people Jeremy Corbyn is quite beyond the pale. And Jo Swinson? Untried and being marginalised by the broadcasters.
Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Cambridge
Carshalton and Wallington
Cheadle
Cheltenham
Eastbourne
Hazel Grove
Kingston and Surbiton
Leeds North West
Lewes
North Cornwall
North Devon
North Norfolk
Oxford West and Abingdon
Portsmouth South
Richmond Park
Sheffield, Hallam
Southport
St Albans
St Ives
Sutton and Cheam
Thornbury and Yate
Twickenham
Wells
Westmorland and Lonsdale
Winchester
Montgomeryshire
Ceredigion
Brecon and Radnorshire
plus five in Scotland
Wimbledon would be a bonus.
So just to be clear about this for the blue luvvies on here this morning.
4 by-election results in from last night. The Conservative share went down in all 4. They lost 3 of the 4 seats, two of them to huge swings to LibDems, and the SNP held the 4th comfortably.
And you talk of landslides? Gents, this ain't no 1979.
Labour 220
SNP 45
Liberal Democrat 30
NI/Others 25
Total non-Tory 320
Conservatives 330
Official majority of 10
Labour have to be well under 200 for us to be approaching a landslide because there will be so many third party seats.
I'd currently favour the tories slightly higher with a majority of about 20-30 but I think with 4 weeks to go that may well narrow further and they may not get one at all.
He probably knows all the words to "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
In Latin.
This election could result in a hung parliament upto a majority conservative adminstration.
The one constant in all this is the haemorrhaging of labour support across all four corners of the UK and it is going to be a very bad night for labour
You've also missed some London seats from the list. Islington South looks very good as a LibDem gain from Labour.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/12/emily-thornberry-risk-losing-seat-lib-dems-amid-fears-labour/
The last Labour Party leader process worked as follows:
- 13 May 2015 NEC sets out timetable
- time for nominations
- time for hustings
- ballot papers produced and distributed
- 1 month window to vote (to 10th September 2015)
- results announced 12th September (I remember that day - I was painting the cobbledash of my parents` bungalow, listening to the results with my head in my hands).
In summary, the process took 4 Months to elect a new leader. If he announced wish to step down on 13th December, and assuming a week for NEC to set up their meeting to decide timetable, this would take us to 20th April for a new leader to be installed.
Corbyn, I argue, would remain leader until a replacement is elected. And Betfair rules state that an acting leader is still counted as the leader.
I draw the following conclusions, but would appreciate your comments on my logic. All bets are with Betfair:
- Corbyn departure date 10/19 - 12/19 - clear LAY at 3.55
- April - June 2020 - BET 7.2
- July 2020 or later - BET 5.4
- 2020 or later - BET 1.36
And I fully expect the Labour uptick in the polls to continue as birds come home to roost.
Remember, that for Labour voters Brexit really isn't the biggest deal. We had all this blue working class guff in 2017.
Even where the LDs have stood down it’s certain the winning MPs will caucus with Jo Swinson’s yellow army regardless of the banner under which they stand.
There’s only one serious national leader in Britain at this seminal moment, and she’ll sweep all before her with her inspirational leadership.
His 2:1 has always irked him but there's a reason for it. Cut through the bluster and there's not a lot underneath.
Except a huge cock, obvs.
It seems to me that LP has a bee its bonnet about electing a female leader next time.
Besides, anyone attacked as not being of the people can always retort they are for the people.
It's a bloody stupid idea.
On the by elections from last night, it is clear the Tories will have to re-gain some remainers from the libdems or they can forget about a workable majority.