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  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    Gabs2 said:

    "One option the EU could accept is a scaled-down version of the customs partnership proposed by Theresa May for the whole of the UK and the whole of the EU. The reduced version would apply only to Northern Ireland, which would leave the EU customs union and remain part of the UK customs territory.

    Under the customs partnership, the UK would agree to enforce EU customs rules and tariffs on goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland. But if the EU tariff was higher than the UK tariff, businesses in the North would receive a rebate.

    So Northern Ireland would leave the EU customs union and would enjoy all the benefits of an independent UK trade policy. But the customs border for administrative purposes would run alongside the regulatory border in the Irish Sea."

    That looks like a great deal for NI.

    So good, in fact, there would probably never be a majority for reunification. I wonder if the DUP are smart enough to see this.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    TGOHF2 said:
    Sandal-wearing surrender act waving Lib un-Dems on the slide.

    (Sorry 😉)
  • NooNoo Posts: 2,380

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    It grieves me to agree with him, and Deadwood is merely passable, but he's right. Breaking Bad is the gloomiest pile of shit I've ever seen.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,728

    Foxy said:

    I pity the poor foot soldiers who have to go out in all weather in a November/December GE. The politicians have it easy travelling around the country or being in nice warm studios. I wonder too, if turnout will be dismal if an election takes place at such a dark time of year?

    I see Jess Phillips lied on live TV that she knocked on 25000 doors in GE 2017

    The in joke in the Labour Party is

    Knock knock

    Whose there

    Its fuckin Jess Phillips again

    Have you ever considered that she has a team of supporters?

    https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1181681343266201601?s=19

    Is it really sensible to spend so much of your time attacking fellow members of the Labour Party?
    "I knocked on 25000 doors only 12 mentioned Brexit"

    Obvious lie.

    Hence the knock knock joke in Birmingham.

    I spend most of my time attacking Tory Swinson.

    Gallowgate can give me a reference
    Yeah, cos Jess Phillip's and Jo Swinson are to blame for the problems of the country, says you and no one else.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    Noo said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    It grieves me to agree with him, and Deadwood is merely passable, but he's right. Breaking Bad is the gloomiest pile of shit I've ever seen.
    Can we have a referendum on that? Advisory only of course. 😂
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    edited October 2019
    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Better than the original series of Twin Peaks?
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    Foxy said:
    Harry will confirm, but I think that's Lab down in 32 of the last 33 council by-elex.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.

    I watched the first few episodes of season one but didn’t get on with it at all. It was just irritating.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    I agree with him completely.
  • TGOHF2TGOHF2 Posts: 584
    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
  • NooNoo Posts: 2,380
    IanB2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.

    I watched the first few episodes of season one but didn’t get on with it at all. It was just irritating.
    The impression I have is the same people like it who also think that Goodfellas and Kill Bill are great films.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869

    LD hold in Watford but swing to Tory. Lab down again

    If you get more than half the vote - particularly as a third party - we don’t need to worry too much about any swing.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    Drutt said:

    Foxy said:
    Harry will confirm, but I think that's Lab down in 32 of the last 33 council by-elex.
    What was the one they were up in?!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    edited October 2019
    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
  • AndyJS said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Better than the original series of Twin Peaks?
    Consistently better. 62 episodes of pure ecstasy.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    edited October 2019
    Bishop's castle on Shropshire, kle4. LAB up nine per cent to(checks notes) nine per cent. Guess they didn't stand last time
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Spartacus is hampered by the first 3-5 episodes. They are cartoony and schlocky. Many give up.

    Yet a mysterious alchemy took place halfway thru series 1, and it becomes something genuinely beautiful and hugely clever. Those of us in the know are the Spartaci
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,129
    edited October 2019
    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.
  • Just seen the mugshots of Rudy's 'associates'. Straight from Eastern European minor criminal central casting.

    I'm sure it is all totally above board.

    https://twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/status/1182314312641196033
  • Just seen the mugshots of Rudy's 'associates'. Straight from Eastern European minor criminal central casting.

    I'm sure it is all totally above board.

    twitter.com/rachelweinerwp/status/1182314312641196033

    Not wearing ties....disgraceful....no chance of a job with TSE.
  • Mad Men is the best. It just is. The Wire and Breaking Bad are also very fine. I’d also throw in Boardwalk Empire for consideration.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    edited October 2019

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
    Never seen it unfortunately. The Wire is a great show, as I recall, but I've never felt the urge to rewatch it so I doubt it is as good as I remember. Better than the borefest of Mad Men, for sure.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    HYUFD said:

    Chris said:

    HYUFD said:

    Looks like Boris Johnson has sold out the DUP, he's taken away their veto.


    Only if enough Labour MPs vote for any Boris Deal to counter the loss of DUP support which is unlikely
    Punctuation was invented, for a reason.
    There is no law requiring a comma after every 3 words for a reason
    Kudos nevertheless for a response that is pretty much on topic.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Byronic said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Spartacus is hampered by the first 3-5 episodes. They are cartoony and schlocky. Many give up.

    Yet a mysterious alchemy took place halfway thru series 1, and it becomes something genuinely beautiful and hugely clever. Those of us in the know are the Spartaci
    Freaks and Geeks
  • Mad Men is the best. It just is. The Wire and Breaking Bad are also very fine. I’d also throw in Boardwalk Empire for consideration.

    First season or two of Boardwalk Empire are fantastic. Its the last season that lets it down for me.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    From the US media you get the feeling circle is starting to close in on Trump.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578

    Mad Men is the best. It just is. The Wire and Breaking Bad are also very fine. I’d also throw in Boardwalk Empire for consideration.

    Mad Men was excellent. Went on about 2 seasons too long, tho. And the ludicrous backstory about Don Draper stealing someone’s ID was a massive flaw.

    You got the sense, by about episode 5, that the writers knew it was a drag. And they tried to minimize it or ignore it as much as poss
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Gabs2 said:

    If this really is the deal it could be an economic boom for Northern Ireland. They would have a legup over GB on regulatory alignment with the EU and no checks going into the single market, and a legup over ROI by getting to benefit from the UK's FTA tariff cuts.

    This could really help tame the poverty that leads to violence and giving an electoral tailwind to the party in power, almost certainly the DUP.

    Let us hope they are smart enough to take it.

    Oh yes, I've said this all along. Being inside the UK from a tax, subsidy and workers rights perpective, but being inside the EU from a customs perspective (with the exception that you also benefit from lower tariffs if that's what the UK has) is mana from heaven for Northern Ireland.

    It does, however, mean that Northern Ireland will absolutely never vote to leave the backstop.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
    Never seen it unfortunately. The Wire is a great show, as I recall, but I've never felt the urge to rewatch it so I doubt it is as good as I remember. Better than the borefest of Mad Men, for sure.
    We’re all remarkably affable and pleasant when the B word is taken out of conversation for a while. A promising sign for when things will, and they will, clam down and revert to normality.
  • Byronic said:

    Mad Men is the best. It just is. The Wire and Breaking Bad are also very fine. I’d also throw in Boardwalk Empire for consideration.

    Mad Men was excellent. Went on about 2 seasons too long, tho. And the ludicrous backstory about Don Draper stealing someone’s ID was a massive flaw.

    You got the sense, by about episode 5, that the writers knew it was a drag. And they tried to minimize it or ignore it as much as poss
    It wasn't one of those classic US tv things where they fire the writers when it became a hit and they ask for a raise and replace them with cheaper alternatives?
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    The labour meltdown continues with #resignforchris the latest infight
  • Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    rcs1000 said:

    Gabs2 said:

    If this really is the deal it could be an economic boom for Northern Ireland. They would have a legup over GB on regulatory alignment with the EU and no checks going into the single market, and a legup over ROI by getting to benefit from the UK's FTA tariff cuts.

    This could really help tame the poverty that leads to violence and giving an electoral tailwind to the party in power, almost certainly the DUP.

    Let us hope they are smart enough to take it.

    Oh yes, I've said this all along. Being inside the UK from a tax, subsidy and workers rights perpective, but being inside the EU from a customs perspective (with the exception that you also benefit from lower tariffs if that's what the UK has) is mana from heaven for Northern Ireland.

    It does, however, mean that Northern Ireland will absolutely never vote to leave the backstop.
    But also never vote to join Ireland. Which should appeal to the DUP
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
    Never seen it unfortunately. The Wire is a great show, as I recall, but I've never felt the urge to rewatch it so I doubt it is as good as I remember. Better than the borefest of Mad Men, for sure.
    We’re all remarkably affable and pleasant when the B word is taken out of conversation for a while. A promising sign for when things will, and they will, clam down and revert to normality.
    What have the Lib Dems got to offer if Brexit gets done?

    Still going to revoke if they win a majority?

    Scrap tuition fees?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    edited October 2019
    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.
    The Wire was brilliant, especially the first two seasons.

    I watched the first few of Spartacus and it was crap; a hammy take off of little interest. You of all people should understand that the real thing is always better than the pale imitation.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
  • Byronic said:

    Mad Men is the best. It just is. The Wire and Breaking Bad are also very fine. I’d also throw in Boardwalk Empire for consideration.

    Mad Men was excellent. Went on about 2 seasons too long, tho. And the ludicrous backstory about Don Draper stealing someone’s ID was a massive flaw.

    You got the sense, by about episode 5, that the writers knew it was a drag. And they tried to minimize it or ignore it as much as poss

    Yep, the ID thing was unnecessary.

  • Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Given the reviews of Joker, I think he might have some competition....
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    Byronic said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
    Gary Oldman in Leon. Overacted but very good.
  • isam said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
    Never seen it unfortunately. The Wire is a great show, as I recall, but I've never felt the urge to rewatch it so I doubt it is as good as I remember. Better than the borefest of Mad Men, for sure.
    We’re all remarkably affable and pleasant when the B word is taken out of conversation for a while. A promising sign for when things will, and they will, clam down and revert to normality.
    What have the Lib Dems got to offer if Brexit gets done?

    Still going to revoke if they win a majority?

    Scrap tuition fees?

    Not being Labour.

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited October 2019
    Byronic said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
    No
    No
    nonononononononono
    No

    My scariest was Michael Myers in Halloween. I dont think I slept for a week when I first watched it, probably about 8yo
  • TGOHF2TGOHF2 Posts: 584
    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,720
    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
  • Gabs2 said:

    "One option the EU could accept is a scaled-down version of the customs partnership proposed by Theresa May for the whole of the UK and the whole of the EU. The reduced version would apply only to Northern Ireland, which would leave the EU customs union and remain part of the UK customs territory.

    Under the customs partnership, the UK would agree to enforce EU customs rules and tariffs on goods moving from Britain to Northern Ireland. But if the EU tariff was higher than the UK tariff, businesses in the North would receive a rebate.

    So Northern Ireland would leave the EU customs union and would enjoy all the benefits of an independent UK trade policy. But the customs border for administrative purposes would run alongside the regulatory border in the Irish Sea."

    The described option was not acceptable to the EU.
    Technically speaking, NI will leave THE EU customs unions as that is legally restricted to member states, but A new, effectively identical customs union will have to be created. The technological solutions available now and for the forseeable future only serve to alleviate the necessity of customs controls to a minor degree, checks and controls would still have been unavoidable, with all the consequences.

    But leaving the UK customs territory will likely not be a significant loss to NI, if at all.
    For the immediate future, the UK has already submitted a tariff schedule to the WTO which is identical to the EU's one.
    In the medium term, if and when the UK leaves the EEA, it may be possible to conclude new trade agreements which improve trading conditions for UK (mainly services) exporters, mostly by removing non-tariff-barriers to trade, but it's unlikely that much will change in regard to tariffs.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
    I really identify with Kendell, we're very similar people.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    IanB2 said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.
    The Wire was brilliant, especially the first two seasons.

    I watched the first few of Spartacus and it was crap; a hammy take off of little interest. You of all people should understand that the real thing is always better than the pale imitation.

    As I say below, you have to get beyond episode 4 or 5 with Spartacus. Up to that point you’re right, after that it becomes something rare and precious
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
  • Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
    I remember seeing the trailers for Season 1 for that, the trailers made it look really cheesy and not good at all.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Byronic said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
    That is a seriously disturbing movie.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    11% swing. Just enough to take Sunderland Central for example
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    Giuliani is surely heading for the high jump
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
    I remember seeing the trailers for Season 1 for that, the trailers made it look really cheesy and not good at all.
    It does a number of things right:

    1. It gets the balance between drama and black comedy spot on.
    2. It's the only TV show which gets business right. (Billions gets a 5.5/10, Succession a 7/10).
    3. The family dyamic is fucked up but all too believable.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    Byronic said:
    Forget the source, is it not reasonable to object to such dismissal of one of the uk family of nations?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    The labour meltdown continues with #resignforchris the latest infight

    Troll accounts
  • rcs1000 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
    I remember seeing the trailers for Season 1 for that, the trailers made it look really cheesy and not good at all.
    It does a number of things right:

    1. It gets the balance between drama and black comedy spot on.
    2. It's the only TV show which gets business right. (Billions gets a 5.5/10, Succession a 7/10).
    3. The family dyamic is fucked up but all too believable.
    Just looked it up, it is the guy behind Peep Show, who was also involved in Thick of It, Four Lions, to name just a few.
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    rcs1000 said:

    Byronic said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
    That is a seriously disturbing movie.
    Kingsley’s performance is mesmerizingly frightening. Violence always a few seconds away. The undersized short sleeve shirts! Brilliant.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,720

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Succession Season Two Trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TKHvvaMfE

    (But you need to see Season One first)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:
    Forget the source, is it not reasonable to object to such dismissal of one of the uk family of nations?
    It is and I agree with Rory on this
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    edited October 2019

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
  • ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    rcs1000 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    Not in real life it isn’t; I was there two weeks back. A tacky theme-park-town where every other building is a casino or house of slot machines.

    If the TV series is good, which streaming service is it on?
    Now TV.

    The West Wing is better than Breaking Bad too.

    As is Billions.

    And Twin Peaks.
    Succession is better than any of those. Succession is the first TV show I've watched live in perhaps fifteen years.
    Interesting - will try.
    Succession is excellent.
    I remember seeing the trailers for Season 1 for that, the trailers made it look really cheesy and not good at all.
    It does a number of things right:

    1. It gets the balance between drama and black comedy spot on.
    2. It's the only TV show which gets business right. (Billions gets a 5.5/10, Succession a 7/10).
    3. The family dyamic is fucked up but all too believable.
    It does do business well. Billions is cheap and shite in comparison.

    It’s also very good on the baleful influence of a mega-alpha but ageing patriarch.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    Byronic said:

    IanB2 said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.
    The Wire was brilliant, especially the first two seasons.

    I watched the first few of Spartacus and it was crap; a hammy take off of little interest. You of all people should understand that the real thing is always better than the pale imitation.

    As I say below, you have to get beyond episode 4 or 5 with Spartacus. Up to that point you’re right, after that it becomes something rare and precious
    So i’ll try again with episode six.

    Kingsley in Testimony; definitely a minority interest but I watch it through every year.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    Sleazy Tories on the slide!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    It's offering a 2nd ref. With remain an option
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    Sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Tories up 17%
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    QT audience has its finger on the pulse as ever

    https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1182417998235295750?s=21
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    Bizarre. Two weeks ago I was in Rapid City enjoying warm late summer sunshine; it’s just been on the news under eight inches of snow.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    IanB2 said:

    Byronic said:

    IanB2 said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.
    The Wire was brilliant, especially the first two seasons.

    I watched the first few of Spartacus and it was crap; a hammy take off of little interest. You of all people should understand that the real thing is always better than the pale imitation.

    As I say below, you have to get beyond episode 4 or 5 with Spartacus. Up to that point you’re right, after that it becomes something rare and precious
    So i’ll try again with episode six.

    Kingsley in Testimony; definitely a minority interest but I watch it through every year.
    I thought Kingsley was brilliant in Iron Man 3 as the "The Mandarin"
  • isam said:

    QT audience has its finger on the pulse as ever

    twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1182417998235295750?s=21

    Isn't it past his bed time?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    GIN1138 said:

    Saw Nandy on Question Time.

    She seemed to be blaming Michael Green (and ultimately Boris) for the fact that she voted against May's WA three times thus raising thr risk of No Deal?

    She is either a deeply confused or deeply dishonest person.
    SunnyJim said:

    nico67 said:


    I suppose the interest going forward if a deal is approved is what goes into the election manifestos.

    As far as the UK's relationship with the EU, my guess:

    Tories: Defend the UK's interests during future negotiations

    LD's: Rejoin the EU

    Labour: ????????
    Labour: Horrible Tory Brexit is done, dont let them make it even worse.

  • IanB2 said:

    Bizarre. Two weeks ago I was in Rapid City enjoying warm late summer sunshine; it’s just been on the news under eight inches of snow.

    Rapid City...were you there to visit BadLands national park?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,060
    I will never understand why people like The West Wing. It's like a CBBC show about US politics.
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    isam said:

    Byronic said:

    Byronic said:

    What nonsense is this...more wiffle waffle than a typical Boris speech...the best TV show ever, The Wire.

    The Wire is overrated. It’s good but it’s worthy and slow.

    Marlo in the Wire is the darkest, most terrifying character I’ve ever seen on big or small screen.

    Nah. The villain in Sexy Beast, played by Ben Kingsley. Fucking SCARY
    No
    No
    nonononononononono
    No

    My scariest was Michael Myers in Halloween. I dont think I slept for a week when I first watched it, probably about 8yo
    Billy Bob Thornton is genuinely scary as Malvo in Fargo. Also the Gentlemen in Buffy.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    Americans keep dropping dead from Vaping. Surely the next scandal to come?
  • Gabs2Gabs2 Posts: 1,268
    edited October 2019
    I found Billions to be over dramatised crap. Didn't get beyond a few episodes.

    I still don't understand the love for West Wing. Overwritten, overacted, sentimental mush.

    Both the Wire and Breaking Bad are outstanding.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    Sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Tories up 17%
    They might have peaked! What is amazing is TM could get 40% plus whereas BJ struggles with artificial support from the Brexit supporting media to get 35%! Is that why BJ is a winner and TM a loser?
  • eggegg Posts: 1,749
    HYUFD said:
    Are you saying he’s taking the wrong stance though?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    It's offering a 2nd ref. With remain an option
    While negotiating a Labour Brexit Deal
  • IanB2 said:

    Americans keep dropping dead from Vaping. Surely the next scandal to come?

    I was shocked to find out just how much nicotine is in the leading brand, Juul, plus how much people actually use of it.

    I'm not a smoker, but the unscientific caffeine equivalent seems like somebody going from having a few cups of coffee a day, to constantly pounding cans of Red Bull.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    QT audience has its finger on the pulse as ever

    twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1182417998235295750?s=21

    Isn't it past his bed time?
    So behind the times... people on here have been confidently proclaiming Boris was only interested in No Deal, day in day out, for weeks!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    egg said:

    HYUFD said:
    Are you saying he’s taking the wrong stance though?
    Well he seems to have annoyed the Indian Government and the Indian opposition
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    edited October 2019

    IanB2 said:

    Bizarre. Two weeks ago I was in Rapid City enjoying warm late summer sunshine; it’s just been on the news under eight inches of snow.

    Rapid City...were you there to visit BadLands national park?
    I was there to visit Custer State Park, but drove through the Badlands on the way back..amazing, eerie scenery especially early in the morning.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:
    A terrrrible result for the theory that the Tories will clean up in Leaver England.
    By doubling their vote share?
    Con + UKIP/Brexit Party went down. Labour + Lib Dem went up.
    Corbyn Labour is not a Remain party unlike the LDs
    Sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Tories up 17%
    They might have peaked! What is amazing is TM could get 40% plus whereas BJ struggles with artificial support from the Brexit supporting media to get 35%! Is that why BJ is a winner and TM a loser?
    TM did not have the Brexit Party
  • Gabs2 said:

    I found Billions to be over dramatised crap. Didn't get beyond a few episodes.

    I still don't understand the love for West Wing. Overwritten, overacted, sentimental mush.

    Both the Wire and Breaking Bad are outstanding.

    Season One of Billions was good. It had enough mystery and suspense. Now it is just utter nonsense.
  • Gabs2Gabs2 Posts: 1,268
    isam said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Byronic said:

    TGOHF2 said:

    Random question. Who’s looking forward to El Camino?

    Me, I've rewatched Breaking Bad over the summer.

    Breaking Bad is the best TV show ever, anyone who says otherwise will spend eternity stuck in a lift with Piers Morgan.
    Nah Deadwood is far better.
    That’s more controversial than any Brexit statement made on this site!!!!
    Deadwood is jolly good, Breaking Bad is better (but the ending sucks)

    Superior to all of them is Spartacus. An absolute masterpiece. They invented their own dialect.

    Show me to wine, Crixus.
    Despite a famous novellist PBer also adoring Spartacus I just could not get into it. But Breaking Bad was much more over hyped.
    Narco’s?
    Never seen it unfortunately. The Wire is a great show, as I recall, but I've never felt the urge to rewatch it so I doubt it is as good as I remember. Better than the borefest of Mad Men, for sure.
    We’re all remarkably affable and pleasant when the B word is taken out of conversation for a while. A promising sign for when things will, and they will, clam down and revert to normality.
    What have the Lib Dems got to offer if Brexit gets done?

    Still going to revoke if they win a majority?

    Scrap tuition fees?
    Effective progressive governance that actually works.
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