Not true, your kids could get a scholarship to them for example if their IQ is high enough or they have strong sporting or musical ability
Why should they need to get a scholarship? The local comp should be as good as any private school. Anyway the whole education system is being privatized in full view and nobody does anything about it.
What an absurd statement, that is like saying every shop should be Harrods and therefore we should close Harrods because it gives consumers an unfair advantage over the corner shop down the road.
The fact is even if every private school in the country closed down most parents would send their children to a grammar school or an outstanding comprehensive, free school or academy not the bog standard requires improvement or inadequate comprehensive down the road because by definition parents want the best for their children.
We need more choice in education not less
You don't really mean for the poorest in society to have any choice at all though do you? In all those towns across the UK with just one secondary state school, the majority of people have no choice at all, and never will - their kids have to go to that one school. What they need is for that school to be well-run and well-funded.
Government should take the following steps to level the playing field imo:
1. VAT on private scool fees - money raised to go to increase state education spending per pupil.
(Sighs) But as I have repeatedly pointed out, that would bankrupt state education by closing most private schools. So it would raise next to no money, if any at all, and throw a huge strain on the state sector it's quite unfit to cope with.
Bring back the grant maintained schools scheme. Allow local authorities to go into partnership with local private schools. Oxbridge used to be dominated by intake from grammar and grant maintained schools. Do it again. Just don't dumb down the university intake standards
Do you mean 'direct grant?' Grant maintained was 'opting out' of LEA control under Major.
Now direct grant really was a state subsidy to private schools...
Apologies. I meant direct grant. My grandfather was head of a direct grant school in Lancashire from the 30's to the 60's. They prided themselves on sending more poor boys per head of school to Oxbridge than Manchester Grammar School. The school provided more social mobility than anything seen today.
On Johnson's hospital visit, politicians seem to think they can turn up in hospitals, get some captive patient to say how wonderful the hospital is so the politician can make a political out of it. I imagine these people feel manipulated. Kudos therefore to the man who answered back to Johnson today.
The specific Johnson comment is that he doesn't seem to cope well with situations. A more competent politician would have said something bland and moved on.
He was ambushed by a Labour activist with a clear agenda
Well that just about sums you up, beyond parody I’m afraid just think a little bit about the background to this incident.
So bloody what are you going to now tell me that he deliberately had his child admitted to hospital at seven days old just so he could confront the PM? Anything from that schoolboy guido isn’t worth the toilet paper it’s written on and if you are involved in that neofascist blog just about sums you up.
Not true, your kids could get a scholarship to them for example if their IQ is high enough or they have strong sporting or musical ability
Why should they need to get a scholarship? The local comp should be as good as any private school. Anyway the whole education system is being privatized in full view and nobody does anything about it.
What an absurd statement, that is like saying every shop should be Harrods and therefore we should close Harrods because it gives consumers an unfair advantage over the corner shop down the road.
The fact is even if every private school in the country closed down most parents would send their children to a grammar school or an outstanding comprehensive, free school or academy not the bog standard requires improvement or inadequate comprehensive down the road because by definition parents want the best for their children.
We need more choice in education not less
You don't really mean for the poorest in society to have any choice at all though do you? In all those towns across the UK with just one secondary state school, the majority of people have no choice at all, and never will - their kids have to go to that one school. What they need is for that school to be well-run and well-funded.
Government should take the following steps to level the playing field imo:
1. VAT on private scool fees - money raised to go to increase state education spending per pupil. 2. Remove charitable status from private schools - it's a sham. 3. Limit UK universities' private school intake percentage to the actual proportion of pupils in private education (7% atm, I believe). Introduce this gradually over 5 years to avoid unduly penalising parents who believed their private school fees were buying a better chance of a top universit place.
Should we also limit the proportion of people in university by skin colour? How about eye colour? Or is there something especially abhorrent about having a public school education foist upon you by your parents that requires government to intervene?
Incidentally it's 7% overall in private education but it's nearly one in five a-level students.
40% of Oxford's 2018 UK were from the 7% of pupils who went to private schools.
You are nine times more likely to go to Oxford if you go to a private school, yet there is no reason to believe private pupils are any brighter than state pupils.
It's a shocking advantage that passes down the eleite from generation to generation.
I’m not sure I like the Labour ‘abolish public schools’ policy.
I’m not sure how abolishing them will make any difference to anything. It certainly wont help the working class.
Maybe remove their tax exemption status unless they provide more paid scholarships and work in conjunction with the state sector to help raise standards all around?
War between 'diehards' led by Cummings and Raab against 'pragmatists' led by Gove. Lynton Crosby has lost the fight with Cummings for influence and thinks Boris has boxed himself in and is heading for disaster where his best bet will be to avoid an election for as long as possible and hope Brexiteer anger subsides.
War between 'diehards' led by Cummings and Raab against 'pragmatists' led by Gove. Lynton Crosby has lost the fight with Cummings for influence and thinks Boris has boxed himself in and is heading for disaster where his best bet will be to avoid an election for as long as possible and hope Brexiteer anger subsides.
Not true, your kids could get a scholarship to them for example if their IQ is high enough or they have strong sporting or musical ability
Why should they need to get a scholarship? The local comp should be as good as any private school. Anyway the whole education system is being privatized in full view and nobody does anything about it.
What an absurd statement, that is like saying every shop should be Harrods and therefore we should close Harrods because it gives consumers an unfair advantage over the corner shop down the road.
The fact is even if every private school in the country closed down most parents would send their children to a grammar school or an outstanding comprehensive, free school or academy not the bog standard requires improvement or inadequate comprehensive down the road because by definition parents want the best for their children.
We need more choice in education not less
You don't really mean for the poorest in society to have any choice at all though do you? In all those towns across the UK with just one secondary state school, the majority of people have no choice at all, and never will - their kids have to go to that one school. What they need is for that school to be well-run and well-funded.
Government should take the following steps to level the playing field imo:
1. VAT on private scool fees - money raised to go to increase state education spending per pupil. 2. Remove charitable status from private schools - it's a sham. 3. Limit UK universities' private school intake percentage to the actual proportion of pupils in private education (7% atm, I believe). Introduce this gradually over 5 years to avoid unduly penalising parents who believed their private school fees were buying a better chance of a top universit place.
Should we also limit the proportion of people in university by skin colour? How about eye colour? Or is there something especially abhorrent about having a public school education foist upon you by your parents that requires government to intervene?
Incidentally it's 7% overall in private education but it's nearly one in five a-level students.
40% of Oxford's 2018 UK were from the 7% of pupils who went to private schools.
You are nine times more likely to go to Oxford if you go to a private school, yet there is no reason to believe private pupils are any brighter than state pupils.
It's a shocking advantage that passes down the eleite from generation to generation.
There is nothing wrong with first class educational establishments, just the hard left destroying excellence as usual
There is if it creates stratification to the point where journalists and politicians fail to see the need for improvement, because they're own life experience is that everything is fine. This is exactly the reason that rampant inequality is disastrous; it suffocates the pathways to general improvement for all. And that is not a "hard left" view. It's a view that covers everything from hard-left, through the centre (where I am), all the way to the centre-right.
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Why the hell did Boris lie about the press?
I genuinely don’t understand that. What was the point?
No sub - can you summarise?
So bloody what are you going to now tell me that he deliberately had his child admitted to hospital at seven days old just so he could confront the PM? Anything from that schoolboy guido isn’t worth the toilet paper it’s written on and if you are involved in that neofascist blog just about sums you up.
(Awesome pun to round it off!)
You are nine times more likely to go to Oxford if you go to a private school, yet there is no reason to believe private pupils are any brighter than state pupils.
It's a shocking advantage that passes down the eleite from generation to generation.
You're learning, slowly, but you are learningThe sort of tweet Clive Lewis has retweeted today
https://twitter.com/AbolishEton/status/1174218833248305153
makes clear it's not about any sort of rational analysis or making working class kids lives better but totemic 'abolish the rich' fare.
This is exactly the reason that rampant inequality is disastrous; it suffocates the pathways to general improvement for all. And that is not a "hard left" view. It's a view that covers everything from hard-left, through the centre (where I am), all the way to the centre-right.