England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland), 12 June 2008, 53.2% against, turnout 53.1% In 2008, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Lisbon.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2 October 2009, 67.1% in favour, turnout 59.0% After the first vote by Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Council and the Irish Government released separate documents, referred to as the "Irish Guarantees", that stated the other member countries would not use the possibility in the Treaty to diminish the number of permanent commissioners in favour of a rotating system with fewer commissioners, and not threaten Ireland's military neutrality and rules on abortion.[1][2] With these assurances, the Irish approved the unchanged Lisbon Treaty in a second referendum.
A clear case of vote again until the right option. There's been other's that Farage has quoted but I can't be botered to find them.
Ỳou said there would be another referendum because "that's what's happened every other time a country has tried to leave the EU".
Now, if you'd said another referendum had happened "whenever new EU treaties were rejected by voters" you might have a point. But that's not what you said.
It's the same principle. It was never going to be easy leaving the EU. Why would they want to encourage others? They gave us "the worst deal in history", which should perhaps of been expected. Thankfully though we live in the country of the Glorious Revolution so our vote will be respected and we'll leave on 31st October.
It might be a very similar principle, but it's not the same thing. Be accurate, or don't post.
England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
It's not the same though is it? (not that you would know living a life so insular)
I dunno - there's a certain charm to these things. You can't really fake a degree of pleasure in helping people that Boris is demonstrating here. I'd run a mile personally. I suspect too that Corbyn wouldn't be quite so comfortable, May would have looked totally uncomfortable, Gordo more so, and can you imagine Foot?
I don't think it says much, but it's a small tick in the Boris box.
I dunno - there's a certain charm to these things. You can't really fake a degree of pleasure in helping people that Boris is demonstrating here. I'd run a mile personally. I suspect too that Corbyn wouldn't be quite so comfortable, May would have looked totally uncomfortable, Gordo more so, and can you imagine Foot?
I don't think it says much, but it's a small tick in the Boris box.
He is just a much better actor than them , though I have to admit he has to be more human than any of those two, you just cannot imagine any of those two looking real at anything.
England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
It's not the same though is it? (not that you would know living a life so insular)
I dunno - there's a certain charm to these things. You can't really fake a degree of pleasure in helping people that Boris is demonstrating here. I'd run a mile personally. I suspect too that Corbyn wouldn't be quite so comfortable, May would have looked totally uncomfortable, Gordo more so, and can you imagine Foot?
I don't think it says much, but it's a small tick in the Boris box.
Given that meal was 1.50 more than a whole day of NHS meals it’s no wonder she looks pleased.
England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
It's not the same though is it? (not that you would know living a life so insular)
Not so very different to Labour's position before the 1974 elections - reject the Heath terms - renegotiate - hold a Referendum.
If we do get Ref2 under Labour I expect the Leave option to be Norway Plus. If so, it is almost impossible to see it winning. Remainers will mostly prefer Remain and all of those Leavers who think the May Deal is 'not Brexit' are unlikely to think something even less pure is worth campaigning and voting for.
Low turnout, probably, and a result something like the following -
REMAIN - 18, 574, 831 LEAVE - Nick Boles and Richard Tyndall
(Well, maybe not Boles)
LOL.
Even I might have trouble with the plus bit as being in a CU is a really stupid idea.
But it would be moot anyway. As I have always said a second referendum would be undemocratic and I would not vote in it. If it comes to that then democracy is dead in this country and I would be cheering on any form of action, legal or illegal that formed the backlash against it.
Violent revolution?
I have no idea. All i know is that when people believe they no longer live in a democracy they look to alternatives. That is the path the Remoaners are driving us down.
Amost half of us were Remainers three years ago and there are indications that that proportion has increased. Certainly the 52% weren't voting for No Deal. Why aren't you blaming the ERG for driving you down the path towards illegal alternatives to democracy?
A collection of opinion polls is not democracy. As much as I dislike the ERG, I don't see what illegal acts they are doing.
England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
It's not the same though is it? (not that you would know living a life so insular)
I dunno - there's a certain charm to these things. You can't really fake a degree of pleasure in helping people that Boris is demonstrating here. I'd run a mile personally. I suspect too that Corbyn wouldn't be quite so comfortable, May would have looked totally uncomfortable, Gordo more so, and can you imagine Foot?
I don't think it says much, but it's a small tick in the Boris box.
He is just a much better actor than them , though I have to admit he has to be more human than any of those two, you just cannot imagine any of those two looking real at anything.
Yes, you're undoubtedly right there. He's often acting a part.
Anyway a small but insignificant tick from me, and as I appointed you an honorary Englishman last night you can add a small but insignificant tick too. (Sorry, couldn't resist )
England giving Ireland a right thumping in the rugby.
I am in Edinburgh for the weekend.
Listening to the local radio station earlier, I heard a news report containing a preview of the Rugby, including the fact that "Scotland got thumped 32-3 last weekend"
LOL, what a twat, we heard it last week when it happened you donkey. Keep your finger on the pulse.
It is quite hard to keep up to date with Scottish sports news when you live in England. I remember I happened to be wearing an Aberdeen away top one time and someone asked me who the manager was - and I was like - I dunno, it's hard to keep up with Scottish sports when you live in England.
yes it is difficult getting on to the internet right enough.
It's not the same though is it? (not that you would know living a life so insular)
you halfwit , you know nothing about me.
I know you're an insular Scotnat
what does that even mean
It means you vote Separatist and are happy with your pathetic little life in Irn Bru World.
Wow. No in my family only my elder brother was conceived out of wedlock. You really are quite strange with your obsessions. However, I am a rampant homosexual if it makes you feel any better.
And what’s more you don’t know how to use blockquotes!!’
😂
He is not alone, on the blockquotes bit I hasten to add.
Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland), 12 June 2008, 53.2% against, turnout 53.1% In 2008, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Lisbon.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2 October 2009, 67.1% in favour, turnout 59.0% After the first vote by Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Council and the Irish Government released separate documents, referred to as the "Irish Guarantees", that stated the other member countries would not use the possibility in the Treaty to diminish the number of permanent commissioners in favour of a rotating system with fewer commissioners, and not threaten Ireland's military neutrality and rules on abortion.[1][2] With these assurances, the Irish approved the unchanged Lisbon Treaty in a second referendum.
A clear case of vote again until the right option. There's been other's that Farage has quoted but I can't be botered to find them.
Ỳou said there would be another referendum because "that's what's happened every other time a country has tried to leave the EU".
Now, if you'd said another referendum had happened "whenever new EU treaties were rejected by voters" you might have a point. But that's not what you said.
It's the same principle. It was never going to be easy leaving the EU. Why would they want to encourage others? They gave us "the worst deal in history", which should perhaps of been expected. Thankfully though we live in the country of the Glorious Revolution so our vote will be respected and we'll leave on 31st October.
It might be a very similar principle, but it's not the same thing. Be accurate, or don't post.
Not so very different to Labour's position before the 1974 elections - reject the Heath terms - renegotiate - hold a Referendum.
If we do get Ref2 under Labour I expect the Leave option to be Norway Plus. If so, it is almost impossible to see it winning. Remainers will mostly prefer Remain and all of those Leavers who think the May Deal is 'not Brexit' are unlikely to think something even less pure is worth campaigning and voting for.
Low turnout, probably, and a result something like the following -
REMAIN - 18, 574, 831 LEAVE - Nick Boles and Richard Tyndall
(Well, maybe not Boles)
LOL.
Even I might have trouble with the plus bit as being in a CU is a really stupid idea.
But it would be moot anyway. As I have always said a second referendum would be undemocratic and I would not vote in it. If it comes to that then democracy is dead in this country and I would be cheering on any form of action, legal or illegal that formed the backlash against it.
Violent revolution?
I have no idea. All i know is that when people believe they no longer live in a democracy they look to alternatives. That is the path the Remoaners are driving us down.
Amost half of us were Remainers three years ago and there are indications that that proportion has increased. Certainly the 52% weren't voting for No Deal. Why aren't you blaming the ERG for driving you down the path towards illegal alternatives to democracy?
A collection of opinion polls is not democracy. As much as I dislike the ERG, I don't see what illegal acts they are doing.
A referendum is not democracy as it is generally understood in the UK either; there is as much distance between the UK version of representative democracy and these grubby little plebiscites as there is between us and the nominal democracies of North Korea and Congo. Churchill detested them, and the three major UK wide ones have been in each case shitty little subterfuges designed purely for party political advantage. So enough of the DMCDIV bollocks already. What we need is a second referendum to overturn the first, cheating on the count if that's what is needed, and the death penalty for anyone who proposes a referendum on anything else ever again. And the police can sort out any resulting peasants revolt (in practice, a few hundred elderly bedwetters with mispunctuated placards at a farage rally in a pub car park near Nottingham).
A referendum is not democracy as it is generally understood in the UK either; there is as much distance between the UK version of representative democracy and these grubby little plebiscites as there is between us and the nominal democracies of North Korea and Congo. Churchill detested them, and the three major UK wide ones have been in each case shitty little subterfuges designed purely for party political advantage. So enough of the DMCDIV bollocks already. What we need is a second referendum to overturn the first, cheating on the count if that's what is needed, and the death penalty for anyone who proposes a referendum on anything else ever again. And the police can sort out any resulting peasants revolt (in practice, a few hundred elderly bedwetters with mispunctuated placards at a farage rally in a pub car park near Nottingham).
We had referenda to determine whether there should be a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor of London. All were opposed by the Conservatives but, to the Party's credit, and credit where it's due, they have never sought to overturn those verdicts.
The Welsh vote, which was won by 50.3 to 49.7, has been accepted and that was closer than the 23/6/16 vote. The Conservatives could have proposed scrapping the Assembly but they never have. - Monmouthshire voted more than 2:1 against but I don't hear any talk about them wishing to leave Wales and become part of England.
Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland), 12 June 2008, 53.2% against, turnout 53.1% In 2008, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Lisbon.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2 October 2009, 67.1% in favour, turnout 59.0% After the first vote by Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Council and the Irish Government released separate documents, referred to as the "Irish Guarantees", that stated the other member countries would not use the possibility in the Treaty to diminish the number of permanent commissioners in favour of a rotating system with fewer commissioners, and not threaten Ireland's military neutrality and rules on abortion.[1][2] With these assurances, the Irish approved the unchanged Lisbon Treaty in a second referendum.
A clear case of vote again until the right option. There's been other's that Farage has quoted but I can't be botered to find them.
Ỳou said there would be another referendum because "that's what's happened every other time a country has tried to leave the EU".
Now, if you'd said another referendum had happened "whenever new EU treaties were rejected by voters" you might have a point. But that's not what you said.
It's the same principle. It was never going to be easy leaving the EU. Why would they want to encourage others? They gave us "the worst deal in history", which should perhaps of been expected. Thankfully though we live in the country of the Glorious Revolution so our vote will be respected and we'll leave on 31st October.
It might be a very similar principle, but it's not the same thing. Be accurate, or don't post.
You trying to reduce server usage Robert?
🤯😆
Being played Radiohead when you log in to the site would drastically do that.....
A referendum is not democracy as it is generally understood in the UK either; there is as much distance between the UK version of representative democracy and these grubby little plebiscites as there is between us and the nominal democracies of North Korea and Congo. Churchill detested them, and the three major UK wide ones have been in each case shitty little subterfuges designed purely for party political advantage. So enough of the DMCDIV bollocks already. What we need is a second referendum to overturn the first, cheating on the count if that's what is needed, and the death penalty for anyone who proposes a referendum on anything else ever again. And the police can sort out any resulting peasants revolt (in practice, a few hundred elderly bedwetters with mispunctuated placards at a farage rally in a pub car park near Nottingham).
We had referenda to determine whether there should be a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly and a Mayor of London. All were opposed by the Conservatives but, to the Party's credit, and credit where it's due, they have never sought to overturn those verdicts.
The Welsh vote, which was won by 50.3 to 49.7, has been accepted and that was closer than the 23/6/16 vote. The Conservatives could have proposed scrapping the Assembly but they never have. - Monmouthshire voted more than 2:1 against but I don't hear any talk about them wishing to leave Wales and become part of England.
I wonder if those were re-run what percentage they'd get.
I guess in all cases the extra bureaucracy isn't a good thing. But in all cases also I see some gains. If any region gets its own parliament though I think all regions should. The SNPs double whammy of Scottish domination, and substantial UK parliamentary representation gives them slightly more voice than they merit.
The Tories got a little more from London Mayor than they deserved too. (Khan, oddly, isn't playing the national game)
Not so very different to Labour's position before the 1974 elections - reject the Heath terms - renegotiate - hold a Referendum.
If we do get Ref2 under Labour I expect the Leave option to be Norway Plus. If so, it is almost impossible to see it winning. Remainers will mostly prefer Remain and all of those Leavers who think the May Deal is 'not Brexit' are unlikely to think something even less pure is worth campaigning and voting for.
Low turnout, probably, and a result something like the following -
REMAIN - 18, 574, 831 LEAVE - Nick Boles and Richard Tyndall
(Well, maybe not Boles)
LOL.
Even I might have trouble with the plus bit as being in a CU is a really stupid idea.
.
Violent revolution?
I have no idea. All i know is that when people believe they no longer live in a democracy they look to alternatives. That is the path the Remoaners are driving us down.
A collection of opinion polls is not democracy. As much as I dislike the ERG, I don't see what illegal acts they are doing.
A referendum is not democracy as it is generally understood in the UK either; there is as much distance between the UK version of representative democracy and these grubby little plebiscites as there is between us and the nominal democracies of North Korea and Congo. Churchill detested them, and the three major UK wide ones have been in each case shitty little subterfuges designed purely for party political advantage. So enough of the DMCDIV bollocks already. What we need is a second referendum to overturn the first, cheating on the count if that's what is needed, and the death penalty for anyone who proposes a referendum on anything else ever again. And the police can sort out any resulting peasants revolt (in practice, a few hundred elderly bedwetters with mispunctuated placards at a farage rally in a pub car park near Nottingham).
The Brexit supporting media have to find it within themselves to strike a conciliatory tone. The Brexit they campaigned for is clearly not achievable, until the Brexit supporting media stop fanning the flames of resentment and stop projecting the impossible goals of Brexit the better. The problem of Brexit is going to be hard to resolve with the Brexit supporting media pumping out the misleading and unconstructive dogma. Brexit is a fools errand and the idiot who tipped the balance in its favour now has the responsibility to walk away from Brexit and admit its flaws....
Only one member state, Ireland, obliged by their constitution, decided on ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland), 12 June 2008, 53.2% against, turnout 53.1% In 2008, Irish voters rejected the Treaty of Lisbon.
Ireland — a referendum to approve the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2 October 2009, 67.1% in favour, turnout 59.0% After the first vote by Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Council and the Irish Government released separate documents, referred to as the "Irish Guarantees", that stated the other member countries would not use the possibility in the Treaty to diminish the number of permanent commissioners in favour of a rotating system with fewer commissioners, and not threaten Ireland's military neutrality and rules on abortion.[1][2] With these assurances, the Irish approved the unchanged Lisbon Treaty in a second referendum.
Comments
I don't think it says much, but it's a small tick in the Boris box.
Anyway a small but insignificant tick from me, and as I appointed you an honorary Englishman last night you can add a small but insignificant tick too. (Sorry, couldn't resist
🤯😆
Unlikely though it is, England have a slim chance,
The Welsh vote, which was won by 50.3 to 49.7, has been accepted and that was closer than the 23/6/16 vote. The Conservatives could have proposed scrapping the Assembly but they never have. - Monmouthshire voted more than 2:1 against but I don't hear any talk about them wishing to leave Wales and become part of England.
I guess in all cases the extra bureaucracy isn't a good thing. But in all cases also I see some gains. If any region gets its own parliament though I think all regions should. The SNPs double whammy of Scottish domination, and substantial UK parliamentary representation gives them slightly more voice than they merit.
The Tories got a little more from London Mayor than they deserved too. (Khan, oddly, isn't playing the national game)
I knew the score.
It is uncommon to hear a news reporter say the word "thumped" when reporting sports.