We are now at a unique stage in British political history when the members of a particular party will by postal ballot decide who the next prime minister shall be. The decisions that members will take are of a different magnitude from other party leadership contests.
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My own book is green on Boris and greener on Hunt. The sensible thing is to balance them up but frankly I'm too tired at the moment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48706720
If there is a by-election then expect Hunt & Johnson to make sure they are seen to be campaigning there.
The French Grand Prix weekend starts today. Notwithstanding any bets I make, I hope Vettel wins on-track.
Still, I don't fancy his chances against the redoubtable Mrs JackW .... or mine ....
If you disrupt an official function and attempt to confront a government minister, causing a breach of the peace, you may find yourself at the thick end of a robust response. I'd have carried out a citizens arrest and accordingly used reasonable force to remove the threat and in short order transfer the potential attacker from my lawful custody to the first available constable.
Let us also reflect that if this woman was a rogue protester and the Chancellor had been seriously injured or killed we would all be reflecting on the shocking security shortcomings or why someone close to Hammond hadn't intervened.
Some in government should have Field's back, it could have been the Chancellor's back with a knife in it, lord knows we've seen plenty of political stabbing this week.
We've had our run ins over the years, but I was very shocked to read about your experience the other night. I hope you're not too shaken and recovering.
Is Mansion House not ring of steeled as say the Tory conference is ?
At the same time, Greenpeace are a bunch of fat, pompous, hypocritical and often violent toadies who are absolutely unfit to lecture anyone else on violence or over-reaction, so they are unlikely to get much sympathy. Meanwhile Aaron Bastani, who under his real name Aaron Peters has a criminal record for violence and public disorder, is worse.
Very stupid of Field. Perhaps a sign that he burns a short fuse? But if so he really shouldn't be a foreign office minister.
It’s also terrible optics for an MP to be manhandling a member of the public, whom they are theoretically there to serve.
The key point is he wasn't under attack, although he may have thought he was (I'm sure he'll claim that) and his reaction was dangerous.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48714414
This is interesting as it is consistent with the view that Trump is far more cautious than is made out, and he fears being bounced into foreign wars by the neocons around John Bolton. Much the same is true in Venezuela.
Things Theresa May failed to achieve, #793: shedding the “nasty party” label.
I can understand the neck grab. The chest would open up a range of more serious accusations and an arm isn't very effective.
My initial reaction on seeing it on the news was he is brave, in the context of expect adverse publicity, not knowing who he was at that time.
Unless you are giving protesters carte blanche to disrupt any and every event, his actions should be acceptable.
John Prescott was assaulted and punched back. This protester may have been disruptive, but did not assault anyone. It doesn't look like reasonable force to me.
Field was not an ordinary diner. As an MP, he should be used to protesters and hecklers. Indeed at the moment there is a perpetual presence of Brexit related pickets outside parliament, so a daily event.
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1141822257007910912?s=19
He wants to bring manufacturing back to America by overthrowing the existing trading system. But destabilising the global system causes a rush to safety (i.e. a stronger dollar), and results in his goal being harder to achieve.
From a straight efficacy perspective, he'd have been much better off flattering the Chinese into floating the Reminbi - "standing alongside the dollar as the two pillars of trade" or somesuch.
https://twitter.com/lewis_baston/status/1141946904869298177?s=21
Should the protestor have been there? No. And she should have been escorted from the premises by security. (And possibly charged, if she broke a crime.)
And should Mr Field have grabbed her by the neck, bashed her against the wall, and pushed her out the room? Nope, that neither. If a police officer did that with a peaceful protestor (especially one who hadn't even been ask to "move along" yet), I hope we'd say that excess force was used.
There's no need to take sides here. They both behaved poorly, and requiring that there is some "ranking" is wank.
May I ask a question pls
I have been researching MPAA, Does the 4000 limit refer to individual contributions, or ERS and EES contributions combined??
I suppose that pelting the protestors with food would have been a more measured response.
Have a good morning.
Noticeable too that no one tried to assist Field or moderate his use of force.
That is a stunning result. On paper it was a tight Con/Lab marginal. We can see from the +24% that the LibDems have come from nowhere to win the ward. They made a bit of effort, with Ed Davey’s seat next door, but this wasn’t a “throw in every volunteer across London” by-election.
It underlines the problem Labour is in, in London and the SE
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/leicester-royal-infirmary-knife-attack-nurse-video-just-doing-job-yusuf-aka-latest-jailed-a8511591.html
One the evidence (she was, for instance, brandishing a deeply threatening mobile phone) Field’s use of force appears excessive.
And looking at the video it does suggest that anger rather than fear was his driving motivation.
The vile ill mannered slatterns spoiling a nice dinner to make selfish virtue signalling demonstrations.
Jail the lot of them.
The protestors were highly disruptive, sounding off foghorns and rape alarms, and trespassing on private property into a private function to which they hadn’t been invited. They were asked to leave and didn’t leave, after they had already disrupted Hammond’s speech.
Mark Field was clearly furious but the way he forcibly escorted her from the building was not assault, was reasonable and was no worse than I’ve seen many security guards, bouncers or police use when escorting people from the premises. It’s now become a meme as people seek to make points about domestic violence, climate change and get one in on the Tories.
Get a grip.
Organised disruptive protests are a problem we should be thinking hard about, but the current political climate is unlikely to see much measured debate.
Who would want a dinner ruined by listening to Hammond ?
But those Greenpeace harpies can get in Rory’s bin too - attention seeking puritan bores.
Mark Carney (I know, noted Remainer and subversive) thinks otherwise.
Why is it that so many of our MPs do not understand the basics, 3 years after the referendum?
That's a deeply worrying sign of the polarisation of our politics.
Especially in a marginal! It would be interesting to know how much effort the other parties made, especially Labour which would have thousands of activists in and around Merton.
In the other London by-election yesterday in Wandsworth, the LibDems went from 5% to 24% and pushed the Tories into third place - on 18% - in (a Labour bit of) Wandsworth!
The Tories may as well write London off, with Brexit and all, but for Labour to be in such trouble there as well is remarkable.
Does anyone on here believe we will go straight onto GATT24 without EU agreement?
I think I live a pretty sheltered life but even I have seen vastly more violent confrontations and much greater force used by bouncers, security staff and of course police officers on many occasions.