I am a LOCAL. I was born and bred here and so were my folks going back. Both of my parents and every single one of my grandparents were not only born in this country but were born within a few miles of each other and in pretty much the same place (literally so in some cases) where I and my siblings were born. Cut me and I bleed Watneys Red Barrel. And yet I don't feel particularly British. Not quite sure why that is, but I don't. I feel more Swedish than anything.
> > Nor am I nor my sibling nor any of my cousins living and born in this country, nor some of our children.
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> > Oh well. Can we be excused paying British tax if we’re not “truly British”?
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> > I think if you’re born and brought up in the UK - and have lived here your whole life - you’re very much British.
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> > If one or more of your parents was born overseas then the extent to which that influenced your own identity would depend on how British they saw they themselves compared to other cultures and influenced the upbringing of their family accordingly.
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> > For example, I suspect there are some communities in which both parents were born in the UK and the child *still* doesn’t particularly identify as British because they feel more culturally affiliated to their roots stretching two or three generations back.
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> > Conversely, there are those who are *both* born overseas who immigrate here and feel uniformly British within 10 years, before they have kids, who then feel very strongly British in turn themselves.
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> > So it can work either way round, and it’s a bit of a silly question.
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> Absolutely. If you ask a silly generalised non specific question you will get a range of silly generalised non specific answers.
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> So, if you answer 'not at all important' can you be taken as meaning that anyone in the world can properly self identify as British because they feel like it? Obviously not. So it is equally silly to draw silly conclusions from the generalisations of traditional people and from less traditional ones.
Except the answers are clearly not randomly distributed, there being quite notable differences along the Leave/Remain axis. Why do you think that may be? probably an edge thing imo.
Really depends on the order the questions are asked. If you have been primed by first being asked your views on Brexit it will affect your answer.
It is still a silly question. Why not ask the question: "If you are a British citizen, does anybody else have the right to tell you how 'truly' British you are?"
I am a LOCAL. I was born and bred here and so were my folks going back. Both of my parents and every single one of my grandparents were not only born in this country but were born within a few miles of each other and in pretty much the same place (literally so in some cases) where I and my siblings were born. Cut me and I bleed Watneys Red Barrel. And yet I don't feel particularly British. Not quite sure why that is, but I don't. I feel more Swedish than anything.
> @Casino_Royale said: > Are we the only country in the world at the moment which doesn't usually require any form of ID when voting? > > Makes me proud to be British.
I am a LOCAL. I was born and bred here and so were my folks going back. Both of my parents and every single one of my grandparents were not only born in this country but were born within a few miles of each other and in pretty much the same place (literally so in some cases) where I and my siblings were born. Cut me and I bleed Watneys Red Barrel. And yet I don't feel particularly British. Not quite sure why that is, but I don't. I feel more Swedish than anything.
Why is Watneys Red Barrel like making love in a punt?
I don’t get the point. If one has to prove beyond reasonable doubt then surely that is a level of proof that might be beyond what the PM accepts as proof for sacking him. Is he saying that the PM wouldnt be able to understand. AFAIK anyone can refer him to the police
On the whole British thing someone who had spent some time here and thought of themselves as British would be British to me. I've known a few people who have been here from birth or a young age and they seem as British as me, the one guy thought of himself as British and Nigerian so that is how I thought of him, although (to my mind anyway) more British than Nigerian.
Having a Jewish sounding name I can confirm that you are way more likely to come across antisemitism from the right than the left, though incidences in both cases are mercifully very low.
Remembered to vote at 9.45, when we got there they had not seen a voter since 7.30 -- less than 1/3 of a page was crossed out on the 2 pages of register
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It is still a silly question. Why not ask the question: "If you are a British citizen, does anybody else have the right to tell you how 'truly' British you are?"
> Are we the only country in the world at the moment which doesn't usually require any form of ID when voting?
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> Makes me proud to be British.
But is that 'truly' British?
> > @_Anazina_ said:
> > https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1123903908248727552
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> > Very succinct from Watson.
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> > The guy is a class act.
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> You say "very succinct", I say "almost incoherent"...
I don’t get the point. If one has to prove beyond reasonable doubt then surely that is a level of proof that might be beyond what the PM accepts as proof for sacking him. Is he saying that the PM wouldnt be able to understand. AFAIK anyone can refer him to the police
They'd never known a night like it