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Assange’s arrest – his white beard, wink and ponytail giving him a very woke mixture of metrosexual man, cheeky rebel and Russian dissident – is the latest scene in a life made for film. Now, following a spell at Her Majesty’s pleasure (her prisons, in NI anyway, used to faeces-smearing prisoners unlike the bemused Ecuadorians bulk-buying extra-strong Cilit Bang) he faces the possibility of extradition to Sweden or the US to face charges of sexual assault and conspiracy to hack into US government computers.
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My own view: Assange is a self-serving nasty fool, a publicity-seeker who has managed to con a whole load of people, and place others (including a member of my family) in trouble, or even danger.
When talking about the law, we need to leave all those admirable qualities to one side. Aside from jumping bail (and how much I LOL at his supporters who lost money on his bail), then it would not surprise me if there was not enough evidence or cause for an extradition to go through. In which case the government could be faced with other difficult problems and decisions.
Edit: and first. Sorry, Ms Free,
https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1117371973112225793?s=21
... and as usual, the bored, flaccid, upper middle class, desperate to have something to make them feel alive and angry about, back him up. So embarrassing
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1117394666712903680?s=21
He’s a nasty piece of work and those making excuses for him should be ashamed of themselves.
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I suspect Lammy experiences it differently. Our Empire was built on force that enslaved his ancestors White supremacists are not some lairy pub talk to him, they are much more real. Are you surprised?
https://twitter.com/RTUKnews/status/743760672010416128
You lie with dogs, don't be surprised you catch fleas.
The kindest interpretation of the ERG is that they are tone deaf about what they say and do. Since some of them have brains, it’s hard to be that kind.
Maybe Lammy is just more tuned into it than you.
Too many are playing the man not the ball.
American war crimes shouldn't be conflated with Assange's personal alleged criminal behaviour.
Was his "rifle" quote better or worse than Osborne saying he'd like to chop Theresa May up and put her in his freezer?
I used to quite like Lammy: he speaks very well on the societal problems facing young black men, and cares deeply about the subject. Racism is a significant part of a very complex jigsaw that does need resolving. He cares about it: and good on him for that. If he does do it to 'keep himself in a job' (and I fear that says more about you than him), then it would be because it matters to his constituents.
However, that feeling has somewhat diminished as he has frequently put his foot in his mouth on a variety of topics. He shows a distinct inflexibility of thinking that I would not expect from a barrister.
I've come to the conclusion that he's a well-educated fool: and in that he's hardly unique in parliament.
I'm sure Sam is hyper attuned to racism shown towards the white (or gammon tinted) British male.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1117383276665028608?s=19
Be careful isam. These are not good people.
But he has a long record of gaffes that show his prejudice, that isnt my opinion but fact. He hasn't had a bad life, University educated, Harvard, a lawyer etc I dont feel that i have to feel sorry for him in any way or guilty that I am white and he is black.
'Would it be too much to hope that those aiming for high office be aware of these pretty basic requirements?'
Sadly the answer appears to be 'yes.' How far we have fallen.
Sure, only a few Leavers are twisted enough to follow that path, but we should not be their apologists, should we isam?
But Assange is pretty well without redeeming features. Let's not forget that originally the US didn't want him. I can't help but wonder whether what's changed is his ongoing interference in the US at the apparent behes of Putin. Let's equally not forget he was one factor, however minor, in the victory of Trump, which has been even worse than I feared it would.
Dr. Foxy, Lammy is so tuned into racism he can see it when no-one else can. Who can forget his powers of perception revealing unto us pasty mortals the racism of white pope smoke? Or the racism of helping people in Africa?
Damned white people and their charitable endeavours!
And his criticism, in part, of the Grenfell Tower inquiry judge on the basis of the judge's whiteness was rancid.
Farage in 2016:
""I think it's legitimate to say that if people feel they have lost control completely, and we have lost control of our borders completely as members of the EU, and if people feel that voting doesn't change anything then violence is the next step."
"I find it difficult to contemplate it happening here, but nothing's impossible."
Nigel Farage is shouting fire in a crowded theatre.
However I do think it's important to try to understand why he comes out with the stuff he does: and then perhaps realise where he's coming from, even if he's often mistaken.
On the same way people should try to understand where other sections of society are coming from, even if they are also often wrong.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/30/us-military-wikileaks-afghanistan-war-logs
They were utterly irresponsible. Personally the incident is so egregious it has to be deliberate.
I don't really see Farage's comment about 'putting the fear of God into politicians" as being beyond the pale (it's like Tony Benn saying the politicians should tremble as they await the voters' verdict). OTOH, cracks about someone being too ugly to rape are repulsive.
Whatever happened to being presumed innocent?
Does anyone here actually have any real evidence that he skipped bail? Surely we should remain silent on this until the trial.
*there is but the US is always wrong and Swedish rape is just a few fingers, not really a proper crime.
EDIT: Julian Assange branded 'narcissist' by judge as he is found guilty of breaching bail conditions - https://news.sky.com/story/julian-assange-branded-narcissist-by-judge-as-he-is-found-guilty-of-breaching-bail-conditions-11690834