The interesting question is why Nigel Farage hasn't started his own new party. I imagine it's because it's a lot of work and he really can't be bothered.
Is it not more that he enjoys spending other people's money rather than his own?
Sad how difficult it is these days to found a racist party full of racists without racists joining and spoiling your racism with their racism.
That said, I'm glad her party exists because it reminds people, lest they forget, that racism, xenophobia, and petty small minded bigotry and hatred is and always was the primary motivating factor behind Brexit.
You need to wash your mouth out with soap. It was all about the failure of the political class to listen to the concerns of people who have been left behind by globalisation.
I mean that's a very longwinded way of saying racist.
There was a racist theme from some but to brand 17.4 million voters as racist is a nonsense. There were many others reasons for brexit
16.8 million racists 0.6 million idiots
Just utter nonsense
To be fair the quota of idiots was much higher than that.
The interesting question is why Nigel Farage hasn't started his own new party. I imagine it's because it's a lot of work and he really can't be bothered.
Is it not more that he enjoys spending other people's money rather than his own?
Sad how difficult it is these days to found a racist party full of racists without racists joining and spoiling your racism with their racism.
That said, I'm glad her party exists because it reminds people, lest they forget, that racism, xenophobia, and petty small minded bigotry and hatred is and always was the primary motivating factor behind Brexit.
You need to wash your mouth out with soap. It was all about the failure of the political class to listen to the concerns of people who have been left behind by globalisation.
I mean that's a very longwinded way of saying racist.
There was a racist theme from some but to brand 17.4 million voters as racist is a nonsense. There were many others reasons for brexit
16.8 million racists 0.6 million idiots
Just utter nonsense
To be fair the quota of idiots was much higher than that.
The important thing is that a *vast* majority of leave voters are either racists, or idiots, or racist idiots. We can argue about the precise numbers, but the sentiment is universal.
The interesting question is why Nigel Farage hasn't started his own new party. I imagine it's because it's a lot of work and he really can't be bothered.
Is it not more that he enjoys spending other people's money rather than his own?
I'm sure he'd have no trouble getting donations.
I'm sure the Kremlin slush fund is still available.
I think the predominant feeling I'm getting from some Remainers as their hopes gradually drift away is an overwhelming arrogance. At first, it was simple anger.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough. We'll have another vote and this time, they'll fall into line.
Now that leavers haven't been dissuaded by their betters' insults, arrogance has come to the fore. They don't deserve the vote, it's an outrage that they ever had it. Democracy must be re-defined as something I think is sensible. They can't help it, but they're not on our elevated level.
The interesting question is why Nigel Farage hasn't started his own new party. I imagine it's because it's a lot of work and he really can't be bothered.
Is it not more that he enjoys spending other people's money rather than his own?
I'm sure he'd have no trouble getting donations.
He really likes a big financial backer who can keep him in the style he has become accustomed to. Look how long he tolerated that idiot Banks.
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
err yeah except, that want the argument in 2016 - arhmageddon, four horsemen, country falls in to the sea etc - and all that european bonus we would be missing like soaraway France or germany.
Remain have sone valid economic arguments such as uncertainty slowing investment or the cost of change but it all gets lost in the scaremongering and never gets a fair hearing, remain just lack the ability to make a case for anything
Fair enough. But don't blame the negative media if there is a sharp post Brexit recession.
I think a recession may hit parts of Europe very soon (Italy already) and a no deal brexit would be a comprehensive failure of the political class both here in the UK and in the EU
History will not be kind to any of them if it comes about
She was one of the candidates for leader the last time UKIP held a leadership election (after the Liverpool academic did so well at 2017GE, but before the ex-Army guy had to resign because of his girlfriend). After she lost she went off and formed her own party that was explicitly anti-Muslim. Something like the New Britain Party.
Oops. No. That was Anne Marie Waters.
Anne Marie Morris is the Conservative MP for Newton Abbot, where I was living for the 2015GE, and I think she was in trouble for using racist language in more innocent times before Brexit sent everyone completely crazy.
She got the Whip suspended (from memory 6 months?) for using the term "n****r in the woodpile".
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
She was one of the candidates for leader the last time UKIP held a leadership election (after the Liverpool academic did so well at 2017GE, but before the ex-Army guy had to resign because of his girlfriend). After she lost she went off and formed her own party that was explicitly anti-Muslim. Something like the New Britain Party.
Oops. No. That was Anne Marie Waters.
Anne Marie Morris is the Conservative MP for Newton Abbot, where I was living for the 2015GE, and I think she was in trouble for using racist language in more innocent times before Brexit sent everyone completely crazy.
She got the Whip suspended (from memory 6 months?) for using the term "n****r in the woodpile".
& The sole Brexit facing Tory opponent of the Brady amendment.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
Wasn't someone else on here banned recently for obsessing how leavers were dying off?
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
Cannabis legalisation is a mainstream political position nowadays. The UK is well behind the curve.
Even Richard N from PB – hardly a dangerous radical – was flirting with the idea the other day.
The longitudinal studies from Colorado support widespread legalisation.
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
Except the Remain tossers were predicting all those terrible catastrophes just for voting for Brexit before we even actually enacted it. And then when none of their terrible predictions turned out to be true they pretended they were talking about something else - like the lying scum they are.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
Wasn't someone else on here banned recently for obsessing how leavers were dying off?
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
Wasn't someone else on here banned recently for obsessing how leavers were dying off?
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
Err, nothing. Implying that she backs legalisation because half her family are Jamaican druggies or dealers (which is how it will be presented by her opponents) ain't so smart. This is the USA.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
It's a bit of lazy racial sterotype let everyone from Jamaica is into pot. If a white guy had made the same crack then there would have been hell to pay.
She was one of the candidates for leader the last time UKIP held a leadership election (after the Liverpool academic did so well at 2017GE, but before the ex-Army guy had to resign because of his girlfriend). After she lost she went off and formed her own party that was explicitly anti-Muslim. Something like the New Britain Party.
Oops. No. That was Anne Marie Waters.
Anne Marie Morris is the Conservative MP for Newton Abbot, where I was living for the 2015GE, and I think she was in trouble for using racist language in more innocent times before Brexit sent everyone completely crazy.
She got the Whip suspended (from memory 6 months?) for using the term "n****r in the woodpile".
These backbenchers making racist gaffes all blend into one. When Pulpstar asked the question I was thinking "Was she the one who made the joke about going for a Chinese?"
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
Except the Remain tossers were predicting all those terrible catastrophes just for voting for Brexit before we even actually enacted it. And then when none of their terrible predictions turned out to be true they pretended they were talking about something else - like the lying scum they are.
None? Not the exchange rate or anything like that?
Another Leaver dickhead trying to rewrite history.
When the Brecession happens it will be because remoaners didn't BELIEVE IN BRITAIN hard enough.
This "shuddering blow" being the first estimate of Q4 GDP being 0.2% instead of the 0.3% forecast? When did the FT give up being a serious newspaper?
I think that we have missed out on some growth in GDP, as a result of the vote in 2016. The average rate since then has been 1.7% p.a., whereas one could have expected 2% or so.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
Err, nothing. Implying that she backs legalisation because half her family are Jamaican druggies or dealers (which is how it will be presented by her opponents) ain't so smart. This is the USA.
Unconvincing - to anyone who isn't going to vote Republican anyway.
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
Except the Remain tossers were predicting all those terrible catastrophes just for voting for Brexit before we even actually enacted it. And then when none of their terrible predictions turned out to be true they pretended they were talking about something else - like the lying scum they are.
Indeed - even if we do take a bit of a hit in material terms, people should be appreciating the how much better things will be in the spiritual sphere.
The fact that it's now routine to refer to those with a different political opinion as "tossers" and "lying scum" should be a signpost to the broad and sunlit (albeit hungry) uplands we're moving towards.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
lol
doooooooommmm
I see grabcoque of old is reverting to type - the hyperbolic ranting is clearly getting out of hand and it's not even tea-time.
How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough.
You misunderstand us. We know leavers are all old and dying off rapidly.
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
Wasn't someone else on here banned recently for obsessing how leavers were dying off?
Cannot think who you might mean............... )))
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
Except the Remain tossers were predicting all those terrible catastrophes just for voting for Brexit before we even actually enacted it. And then when none of their terrible predictions turned out to be true they pretended they were talking about something else - like the lying scum they are.
Indeed - even if we do take a bit of a hit in material terms, people should be appreciating the how much better things will be in the spiritual sphere.
The fact that it's now routine to refer to those with a different political opinion as "tossers" and "lying scum" should be a signpost to the broad and sunlit (albeit hungry) uplands we're moving towards.
Almost as if they're desperate for everyone to see "the vision".
No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
Err, nothing. Implying that she backs legalisation because half her family are Jamaican druggies or dealers (which is how it will be presented by her opponents) ain't so smart. This is the USA.
Unconvincing - to anyone who isn't going to vote Republican anyway.
It won't wash well with the Democrat voters she needs to gain the nomination.
Question. If I say I don't care about immigration, but I recognise that lots of people do and it's important to address their legitimate concerns, am I: a) a racist; b) racist by proxy; c) an apologist for racists; or d) something else?
When the Brecession happens it will be because remoaners didn't BELIEVE IN BRITAIN hard enough.
This "shuddering blow" being the first estimate of Q4 GDP being 0.2% instead of the 0.3% forecast? When did the FT give up being a serious newspaper?
I think that we have missed out on some growth in GDP, as a result of the vote in 2016. The average rate since then has been 1.7% p.a., whereas one could have expected 2% or so.
I wouldn’t have expected 2%. I’m happy with anything over 0% but my kids would like something to cause house prices to fall a bit before they need to buy.
Question. If I say I don't care about immigration, but I recognise that lots of people do and it's important to address their legitimate concerns, am I: a) a racist; b) racist by proxy; c) an apologist for racists; or d) something else?
When the Brecession happens it will be because remoaners didn't BELIEVE IN BRITAIN hard enough.
This "shuddering blow" being the first estimate of Q4 GDP being 0.2% instead of the 0.3% forecast? When did the FT give up being a serious newspaper?
I think that we have missed out on some growth in GDP, as a result of the vote in 2016. The average rate since then has been 1.7% p.a., whereas one could have expected 2% or so.
I wouldn’t have expected 2%. I’m happy with anything over 0% but my kids would like something to cause house prices to fall a bit before they need to buy.
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Question. If I say I don't care about immigration, but I recognise that lots of people do and it's important to address their legitimate concerns, am I: a) a racist; b) racist by proxy; c) an apologist for racists; or d) something else?
Shuddering blow. It's definitely one of those situations where the FT had a headline ready and tried to fit it to the story rather than create a headline from the story. #fakenews.
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Well first of all it was not an answer. He didn't, presumably, vote for Brexit (if he voted for Brexit) as an exercise in democratic process.
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
Shuddering blow. It's definitely one of those situations where the FT had a headline ready and tried to fit it to the story rather than create a headline from the story. #fakenews.
You know, Max, quaint as the saying is - a billion dollars here, a billion dollars there...
Question. If I say I don't care about immigration, but I recognise that lots of people do and it's important to address their legitimate concerns, am I: a) a racist; b) racist by proxy; c) an apologist for racists; or d) something else?
"Make sure you can run faster than a mobility scooter If Leavers target Remainers you’ll need to escape from elderly people on their ‘Brexit choppers’. Get in training by jogging round an empty car park with your nan trying to run you over at 3mph."
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Well first of all it was not an answer. He didn't, presumably, vote for Brexit (if he voted for Brexit) as an exercise in democratic process.
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
I was about to compose a serious answer for you now I cant be bothered.
When the Brecession happens it will be because remoaners didn't BELIEVE IN BRITAIN hard enough.
This "shuddering blow" being the first estimate of Q4 GDP being 0.2% instead of the 0.3% forecast? When did the FT give up being a serious newspaper?
I think that we have missed out on some growth in GDP, as a result of the vote in 2016. The average rate since then has been 1.7% p.a., whereas one could have expected 2% or so.
I wouldn’t have expected 2%. I’m happy with anything over 0% but my kids would like something to cause house prices to fall a bit before they need to buy.
House prices have gone nowhere in real terms for a while !
"Make sure you can run faster than a mobility scooter If Leavers target Remainers you’ll need to escape from elderly people on their ‘Brexit choppers’. Get in training by jogging round an empty car park with your nan trying to run you over at 3mph."
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Well first of all it was not an answer. He didn't, presumably, vote for Brexit (if he voted for Brexit) as an exercise in democratic process.
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
I was about to compose a serious answer for you now I cant be bothered.
Do what you want s'a free country.
I asked how someone's life had been improved by Brexit and he gave a meaningless answer.
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Well first of all it was not an answer. He didn't, presumably, vote for Brexit (if he voted for Brexit) as an exercise in democratic process.
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
I was about to compose a serious answer for you now I cant be bothered.
Do what you want s'a free country.
I asked how someone's life had been improved by Brexit and he gave a meaningless answer.
FT anti brexit stance showing. Of course brexit is a negative to the economy but we are doing better than Italy and Germany and on a par with France
I did wonder why it was a blow to the data?
proabaly because they were rooting for a huge depression post the vote and it hasnt happened
I mean, we haven't left the EU yet. The chaos has barely started. We're still several weeks away from when the ironic contempt starts giving away to first serious concern and then blind panic.
Except the Remain tossers were predicting all those terrible catastrophes just for voting for Brexit before we even actually enacted it. And then when none of their terrible predictions turned out to be true they pretended they were talking about something else - like the lying scum they are.
A UKIP/BNP voter calling people liars and scum. Yep, you heard it here.
When the Brecession happens it will be because remoaners didn't BELIEVE IN BRITAIN hard enough.
This "shuddering blow" being the first estimate of Q4 GDP being 0.2% instead of the 0.3% forecast? When did the FT give up being a serious newspaper?
I think that we have missed out on some growth in GDP, as a result of the vote in 2016. The average rate since then has been 1.7% p.a., whereas one could have expected 2% or so.
I wouldn’t have expected 2%. I’m happy with anything over 0% but my kids would like something to cause house prices to fall a bit before they need to buy.
House prices have gone nowhere in real terms for a while !
And, long may they continue to do so. Huge trouble resulted from prices rising by 320% between 1996 and 2007.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there - not for the policy (if it is that), but for the Jamaica bit.
Why? What's wrong with saying she is half-Jamaican? (genuine question as to why that is a gaffe)
Err, nothing. Implying that she backs legalisation because half her family are Jamaican druggies or dealers (which is how it will be presented by her opponents) ain't so smart. This is the USA.
It's great for corporate lawyers, and anyone whose income derives from sources denominated in foreign currencies.
It's been a weird sort of "good at the moment, but possibly not in the future" for exporters. The exchange profits have more than paid for the Irish brass plate anyhow.
"Make sure you can run faster than a mobility scooter If Leavers target Remainers you’ll need to escape from elderly people on their ‘Brexit choppers’. Get in training by jogging round an empty car park with your nan trying to run you over at 3mph."
They go faster than 3 MPH !
I got told off earlier about making jokes about swivel-eyed septuagenarians having difficulty coordinating their goosestep. No ageist jokes please, even if, and I want to make this very clear, even if they are Brexiteers.
It's great for corporate lawyers, and anyone whose income derives from sources denominated in foreign currencies.
It's been a weird sort of "good at the moment, but possibly not in the future" for exporters. The exchange profits have more than paid for the Irish brass plate anyhow.
My company has had very juicy exchange gains and we don't even need to bother with the Irish brass plate.
It's great for corporate lawyers, and anyone whose income derives from sources denominated in foreign currencies.
It's been a weird sort of "good at the moment, but possibly not in the future" for exporters. The exchange profits have more than paid for the Irish brass plate anyhow.
if people are stockbuilding both ways ahead of Brexit there must be a futher dip at some point as the stocks are run down
Shuddering blow. It's definitely one of those situations where the FT had a headline ready and tried to fit it to the story rather than create a headline from the story. #fakenews.
You know, Max, quaint as the saying is - a billion dollars here, a billion dollars there...
It's the first estimate, I'm not sure it's a number anyone should rely on for anything.
Shuddering blow. It's definitely one of those situations where the FT had a headline ready and tried to fit it to the story rather than create a headline from the story. #fakenews.
You know, Max, quaint as the saying is - a billion dollars here, a billion dollars there...
It's the first estimate, I'm not sure it's a number anyone should rely on for anything.
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
I'm sorry that your belief in democracy had taken such a knock, fragile thing as it must have been. What was it in the first place that made you lose your faith?
you ask for an example then go all snidey when you get one
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Well first of all it was not an answer. He didn't, presumably, vote for Brexit (if he voted for Brexit) as an exercise in democratic process.
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
Democracy was utterly broken by the EU when they ignored two referendums that voted down the EU Constitution, and when we in Britain weren't even given the referendum that we were promised. Instead the EU and UK connived to turn the EU Constitution into the Lisbon Treaty, despite it being the same document, solely so they could ram it through parliaments and ignore those democratic votes, and British voters
Am I over-egging the pudding? Well, this is what the EU bigwigs said themselves:
“The Constitution is the capstone of a European Federal State.”
(Guy Verhofstadt, Belgian Prime Minister)
“If it’s a Yes we will say “on we go”, and if it’s a No we will say “we continue”.’
(Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Council)
“The substance of the Constitution is preserved. That is a fact.”
(German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the Lisbon Treaty)
“They must go on voting until they get it right.”
(Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission)
And my favourite, by the actual author of the Constitution:
"Public opinion will be led - without knowing it - to adopt the policies we would never dare present to them directly. All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden or disguised in some way."
(Valery Giscard d'Estaing)
Case closed, m'Lud
Nah. We were always sovereign and as a sovereign nation we decided to agree on these things. A democratically-elected government decided.
The rest of your post is gumph plus the final concluding argument is...we voted to leave. How much more the fuck democratic and sovereign does it get than that?
“The Constitution is the capstone of a European Federal State.”
(Guy Verhofstadt, Belgian Prime Minister)
Jean-Claude Piris (who wrote much of the treaty) wrote a book arguing that this was the substantial difference between the Constitution and the Lisbon Treaty, and that the Lisbon Treaty marked a turn away from federalism.
Mr. Topping, both the Government and Opposition promised us a referendum, then the Government (under Brown) reneged upon it. That's not exactly a glittering example of democracy in action.
Mr. Topping, both the Government and Opposition promised us a referendum, then the Government (under Brown) reneged upon it. That's not exactly a glittering example of democracy in action.
Morris as elected politicians everything and anything they do is, by definition, democratic.
I think Britsplaining more accurately describes arrogant Leavers who think shouting at the furriners will help them understand that we are all a lot cleverer than they are, and that they need us more than we need them.
It's great for corporate lawyers, and anyone whose income derives from sources denominated in foreign currencies.
It's been a weird sort of "good at the moment, but possibly not in the future" for exporters. The exchange profits have more than paid for the Irish brass plate anyhow.
Not just lawyers; anyone in an advisory role. It's caused the insurance industry to have kittens about not being able to pay claims afterwards.
In addition, there are now a whole bunch more insurers with Irish brass plates, which means that a tranche of the supervisory work that would previously be done by the PRA now gets outsourced to consultants working with the Central Bank of Ireland.
So yes, I'm fairly happy with how things are going so far.
If I voted for Brexit, I'd be an illiterate racist so I'd be unable to do so. if I voted Remain as my wife did, I 'd still expect to see the result honoured (as my wife does), As I come from Boston originally, I'd be in favour of ganga being legalised. Or have I got a bit mixed-up here?
At least, I remember the result of the referendum that Parliament pledged to uphold. Do you?
Mr. Topping, both the Government and Opposition promised us a referendum, then the Government (under Brown) reneged upon it. That's not exactly a glittering example of democracy in action.
Ah bur Mr Dancer we had a minister for Europe to put in the hours and look after these things so you dont need to worry
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How dare these no-marks vote the wrong way, don't they realise how wrong they are and how right I am? How stupid must they be? They'll soon see the folly of their ways when we point it out enough. We'll have another vote and this time, they'll fall into line.
Now that leavers haven't been dissuaded by their betters' insults, arrogance has come to the fore. They don't deserve the vote, it's an outrage that they ever had it. Democracy must be re-defined as something I think is sensible. They can't help it, but they're not on our elevated level.
A sad sight.
Point and laugh at the FT.
But don't blame the negative media if there is a sharp post Brexit recession.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/kamala-harris-2020-marijuana-legalization-1163795
Sen. Kamala Harris called for the legalization of marijuana at a federal level in a Monday morning interview, making her the latest 2020 contender to weigh in on an issue that has become front-and-center as the presidential campaign season begins.
“Half my family’s from Jamaica,” the California Democrat said, laughing when asked to respond to those who think she’s opposed to legalizing recreational use of the drug. “Are you kidding me?”
Remain have sone valid economic arguments such as uncertainty slowing investment or the cost of change but it all gets lost in the scaremongering and never gets a fair hearing, remain just lack the ability to make a case for anything
History will not be kind to any of them if it comes about
it hasnt gone away you know
Nobody cares if you atone for what you did or see the error of your ways.
What we need is that you live just long enough to be held to account for the national cataclysm about to be unleashed, to get the blame and suffer the retribution for everything that's about to happen, and be tarnished in history forever as the racists who destroyed the UK economy because a bus lied to them.
"I can't help feeling that she's gaffed badly there."
I think she's being refreshingly honest. Mind you, that's usually a gaffe nowadays.
We know you're only kidding, but keep going - it's all good propaganda for the Leave Campaign..
But I suppose stupidity has already triumphed over reason, and all we can hope for is that things won't turn out quite as badly as seems likely.
doooooooommmm
Even Richard N from PB – hardly a dangerous radical – was flirting with the idea the other day.
The longitudinal studies from Colorado support widespread legalisation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/07/teen-marijuana-use-falls-to-20-year-low-defying-legalization-opponents-predictions/?utm_term=.71c48cec46ab
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2018/05/04/how-much-money-states-make-cannabis-sales/#73c00093f181
Of course Brexit wasn't the best thing, but look at the figures - we're still doing better than Rwanda and Kiribati.
The bus didn't lie to me because I can't read joined-up writing. But I can put an 'X' on a ballot paper when someone shows me. Aren't I clever?
If a white guy had made the same crack then there would have been hell to pay.
Another Leaver dickhead trying to rewrite history.
The fact that it's now routine to refer to those with a different political opinion as "tossers" and "lying scum" should be a signpost to the broad and sunlit (albeit hungry) uplands we're moving towards.
No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*.
Although there is this, of course...
https://thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/man-claims-hius-life-being-ruined-by-immigration-but-cant-explain-how-20170227122932
*edit: I think some antique dealers will be affected. I'm sure the sector deserves to dictate our entire national economic well-being.
a) a racist;
b) racist by proxy;
c) an apologist for racists; or
d) something else?
"No one has yet on this board explained how they personally will be affected by Brexit for the better*
You should have asked earlier. My life will be enriched by having my faith in democracy restored.
https://thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/man-claims-hius-life-being-ruined-by-immigration-but-cant-explain-how-20170227122932
how many more answers do you think youre going to get now ?
Plus taking him at his word, I'm interested in why he believed that democracy was broken. Not at all snidey. And I'm sure he can answer for himself.
https://thedailymash.co.uk/features/what-to-do-in-a-brexit-riot-20190130181927
"Make sure you can run faster than a mobility scooter If Leavers target Remainers you’ll need to escape from elderly people on their ‘Brexit choppers’. Get in training by jogging round an empty car park with your nan trying to run you over at 3mph."
I asked how someone's life had been improved by Brexit and he gave a meaningless answer.
New verb to britsplain
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/eilis-ohanlon-britsplaining-noun-belief-that-londonbased-commentators-can-know-more-about-northern-ireland-than-someone-who-lives-here-ever-could-37801169.html
The rest of your post is gumph plus the final concluding argument is...we voted to leave. How much more the fuck democratic and sovereign does it get than that?
You, sir, are a silly sausage.
In addition, there are now a whole bunch more insurers with Irish brass plates, which means that a tranche of the supervisory work that would previously be done by the PRA now gets outsourced to consultants working with the Central Bank of Ireland.
So yes, I'm fairly happy with how things are going so far.
"I'm sure he can answer for himself."
If I voted for Brexit, I'd be an illiterate racist so I'd be unable to do so. if I voted Remain as my wife did, I 'd still expect to see the result honoured (as my wife does), As I come from Boston originally, I'd be in favour of ganga being legalised. Or have I got a bit mixed-up here?
At least, I remember the result of the referendum that Parliament pledged to uphold. Do you?
Ah bur Mr Dancer we had a minister for Europe to put in the hours and look after these things so you dont need to worry
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/5084584/Caroline-Flint-Europe-minister-hasnt-read-Lisbon-Treaty.html