As someone who did pay a miniscule share toward the London fireworks this morning (to be accurate), I'm the lightest shade of can't be arsed about a reference to the EU.
No one wants a hostile antithetical relationship with the EU - they will remain a close and significant trading and business partner especially for London. As usual, Julia Hartley-Brewer is trying to create a sense of outrage where none exists.
In any case, I was too busy reading the VIz Christmas Annual and Mrs Stodge was complaining she couldn't sleep because of the banging (fnaar).
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
The sad thing is that many do and ultra brexiteers are as unacceptable as ultra remainers in this climate
The biggest danger in all of this is polarising London from the rest of England and deapening the divisions
Khan politicised a national celebration to make him feel good but it was unnecesary.
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most recent national election was called to secure a majority for Brexit, and people declined the offer.
True, if you ignore the fact that 4 in 5 voted for parties with a manifesto commitment to enact Brexit.
We are calling for a referendum on the Deal, not to cancel Brexit.
As William points out above, the Deal was in *nobody’s* manifesto, and May conspicuously failed to win a majority for her personal Brexit.
The Deal is the only agreement available from the EU which ends free movement and leaves the single market, agreeing that would effectively negate most of the point of Brexit at all.
A referendum on the Deal only leads to No Deal if rejected and a straight Remain v Deal referendum will never be accepted by No Dealers either
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
The sad thing is that many do and ultra brexiteers are as unacceptable as ultra remainers in this climate
The biggest danger in all of this is polarising London from the rest of England and deapening the divisions
Khan politicised a national celebration to make him feel good but it was unnecesary.
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most recent national election was called to secure a majority for Brexit, and people declined the offer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
May said she called the election because Labour had threatened to vote against the Brexit deal. Their manifesto said they would scrap the government’s white paper and instead keep “the benefits of the single market and customs union”. It’s not correct to say that Labour were pro-Brexit in 2017.
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
The sad thing is that many do and ultra brexiteers are as unacceptable as ultra remainers in this climate
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most recent national election was called to secure a majority for Brexit, and people declined the offer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
May said she called the election because Labour had threatened to vote against the Brexit deal. Their manifesto said they would scrap the government’s white paper and instead keep “the benefits of the single market and customs union”. It’s not correct to say that Labour were pro-Brexit in 2017.
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
The sad thing is that many do and ultra brexiteers are as unacceptable as ultra remainers in this climate
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most reoffer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
The sad thing is that many do and ultra brexiteers are as unacceptable as ultra remainers in this climate
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most reoffer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the lag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
Khan politicised a national celebration to make him feel good
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
Another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
We had one of those. Those who didn’t like the result want another without being honest enough to honour the first.
Two and a half years of trying and failing is honour enough.
There has been nothing honest or honourable in the behaviour of most Remainers since A50 was lodged which is almost 2 years now.
Yet it is the Brexiters who have covered themselves in shame.
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
T
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
Because polls matter more than votes do they ?
The most recent national election was called to secure a majority for Brexit, and people declined the offer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
May said she called the election because Labour had threatened to vote against the Brexit deal. Their manifesto said they would scrap the government’s white paper and instead keep “the benefits of the single market and customs union”. It’s not correct to say that Labour were pro-Brexit in 2017.
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the lag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
Khan politicised a national celebration to make him feel good
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
I wonder what the reaction of Remainers would be if the Gov proposed a big firework display to celebrate actually leaving the EU. Very similar to that of the tweets above I should imagine. Both are pointless.
Shame Sadiq Khan doesn’t show the same concern about escalating knife crime in London.
How does he do that? That's for the police
The mayor has a big role in policing, however. Sadiq has put more emphasis on easy to prosecute hate crimes on twitter than actually keeping the public safe from moped thieves, knife wielding thugs and in a few cases gun wielding gangsters. He has the same resources as Boris and crime has gone up because he's directing them in the direction of people saying mean things on the internet.
One moronic Tory MEP has compared the EU stars on the eye as the same as putting the Argentinian flag up during the Falklands .
He clearly is another nutjob who views the EU as the enemy of the UK.
T
I have no axe to grind for the brexiteers who do not represent my views but if, and it is a big if, we somehow remain in the EU remainers need to be magnanimous or the divisions will go on for decades
The divisions are there, they won't just go away because May asks them to. Not when her idea of compromise is for everyone to agree with her!
This is nothing to do with TM. Compromise has to be at the centre of healing
Eh? It has everything to do with TM. There is not a shred of compromise in her - and the problem is that she is completely wrong. All the time.
She seems happy enough to compromise with the EU. Most Remainers don’t want compromise though. They just want Brexit cancelled despite the wishes of the majority.
Actually they're asking for a referendum on the deal - which if you are right about the majority view, shouldn't be a problem.
According to very persistent polling for nearly two years now —— he’s wrong.
?
The most recent national election was called to secure a majority for Brexit, and people declined the offer.
The parties supporting Remain - the LibDems and SNP - didn’t exactly prosper did they ?
May said she called the election because Labour had threatened to vote against the Brexit deal. Their manifesto said they would scrap the government’s white paper and instead keep “the benefits of the single market and customs union”. It’s not correct to say that Labour were pro-Brexit in 2017.
On topic, no fucks given. While the remainers work themselves into a frenzy of masturbatory congratulations over this, we march ever closer to leaving the EU. They are shuffling the deck chairs as the remainer ship sinks.
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
I thought the outrage bus was solely for snowflake lefties?
I thought the lovely Julia was off somewhere hot and sunny? Seems daft to be worrying about a silly firework display when your off sunning yourself in tropical climes?
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated. Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures on any definition even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office.
Some PMs actually look better with historical hindsight than they did when in power eg John Major
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated. Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures on any definition even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office.
Some PMs actually look better with historical hindsight than they did when in power eg John Major
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated. Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures on any definition even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office.
Some PMs actually look better with historical hindsight than they did when in power eg John Major
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
OK, that's a more apt quote. Let's go with that one if Hyufd doesn't agree with Powell.
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated. Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures on any definition even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office.
Some PMs actually look better with historical hindsight than they did when in power eg John Major
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Apart from JFK I don't think that really applies to many senior politicians, plenty thought Thatcher was a villain as soon as she came into office, she developed into the role
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before.
Churchill was the greatest war leader we have ever had, his peacetime premiership was hardly a disaster either even if it did not match the heights of his wartime premiership and he became PM again after winning an election and making up for his 1945 loss
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
It's a view...
The Korean War kept South Korea from going Communist so on no definition was it a failure.
The Poll tax was a mistake but does not in any way alter the complete shake up of the UK economy Thatcher had successfully achieved by 1990
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
It's a view...
The Korean War kept South Korea from going Communist so on no definition was it a failure.
The Poll tax was a mistake but does not in any way alter the complete shake up of the UK economy Thatcher had successfully achieved by 1990
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
It's a view...
The Korean War kept South Korea from going Communist so on no definition was it a failure.
The Poll tax was a mistake but does not in any way alter the complete shake up of the UK economy Thatcher had successfully achieved by 1990
I was thinking more of the health charges.
Charges for false teeth and spectacles is barely a ripple in comparison to the achievement of the creation of the NHS
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
It's a view...
It’s probably not altogether fair to blame the outbreak of the Korean War on Mr. Attlee. Of course Nye Bevan (with Wilson and Freeman) did resign over the NHS charged but it didn’t lead to the fall of the Govt and as you know, Labour only lost the 1951 election very narrowly and outpolled the Conservatives in votes.
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Britain’s most careless prime minister. Historians will not be kind to him.
There are very few Prime Ministers we're actually kind to, TBF. Mostly we just give them a shellacking.
The PM is the most powerful person in the country, it is a tough job judged on the incumbent's record, not one where people are going to be kind to you all the time. The best PMs since the War, Attlee and Thatcher, tended to be pretty uninterested in what people thought of them, they got on with delivering what they wanted to achieve for the country
Also, to quote Enoch Powell, all political careers end in failure. That tends to colour later views of them. For example, views of Macmillan are much closer to Mac the Knife than Supermac.
Powell exaggerated, Churchill, Thatcher, Attlee's political careers for example were by no means failures even if they not achieve all they wanted to when they left office
Attlee and Thacther both ended with spectacular failures. That counts.
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Not really. Thatcher made a mistake with the poll tax but still left office with lower inflation, far less strikes and far higher gdp per capita than when she entered it.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before
You are saying the poll tax and the Korean War leading to healthcare charges were not spectacular failures?
It's a view...
The Korean War kept South Korea from going Communist so on no definition was it a failure.
The Poll tax was a mistake but does not in any way alter the complete shake up of the UK economy Thatcher had successfully achieved by 1990
I was thinking more of the health charges.
Charges for false teeth and spectacles is barely a ripple in comparison to the achievement of the creation of the NHS
The quote is about ending in failure, not successes preceding.
Attlee suffered because ramped up military expenditure pulled the rug from his domestic agenda, worsening austerity. Britons hadn't voted to be poorer.
He's ok as a mayor, but he's nothing special. I'm not sure he can afford such serious black marks. However as it was a stunt I look forwards to having the costs refunded when it comes to my council tax. Every brass razzoo please Sadiq!
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
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Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
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Stop using facts, this is the Brexit Room!
"Gentlemen, you can't pontificate in here! This is the Brexit Room!"
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
I thought he told us that London was open to Europe, not the EU. One of the many tediously repeated Brexiteer memes is that the EU isn't Europe; have they been wrong all this time?
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Yes, it's clearly an accident that Sadiq Khan chose that one of all the possible freeze frames...
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
Because Sadiq actually was engaging in pro-EU trolling, she just wore a hat and some Remainers jizzed themselves because they saw a passing resemblance to their favourite flag. No way on earth is the Queen pro-EU.
"Gentlemen, you can't pontificate in here! This is the Brexit Room!"
Scene in the Brexit Room
* Minister Gove: The fools… the mad fools... * Prime Minister May: What’s happened? * Gove: The No-Deal Brexit. * May: The No-Deal Brexit? What is that? * Gove: A device which will destroy all human and animal life on UK. * May: All human and animal life? I’m afraid I don’t understand something, Gove. Is the ERG threatening to invoke this if our vote loses? * Gove: No sir. It is not a thing a sane man would do. The No-Deal Brexit is designed to to trigger itself automatically. * May: But surely you can disarm it somehow? * Gove: No. It is designed to execute if no attempt is ever made to supersede it. * May: Automatically? But, how is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically, and at the same time impossible to untrigger? * Hammond: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this No-Deal Brexit. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the No-Deal Brexit is terrifying. It’s simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing. * May: But this is horrific! Hammond. How can it be triggered automatically? * Hammond: Well, it’s remarkably simple to do that. When you merely wish to execute legislation, there is no limit to the size. After that they are connected to the miniscule brains of MPs. Then a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances, under which the legislation is to be executed, is programmed into Parliament. … * Hammond: Yes, but the whole point of the No-Deal Brexit is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, eh? * Gove: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the ERG loves surprises.
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Happy New Year to all. Good wishes in particular for speedy recoveries to @DavidL and @bigjohnowls for his lady wife.
It’s not Sadiq who pays. Londoners do.
I had a very quiet evening writing a new article for my blog (something I’m quite proud of) and nearly missed the changeover to 2019, tho TBH I rather loathe the idea of enforced jollity one day of the year. I watched the fireworks and completely missed the EU message. More important things to worry about, I’d have thought. Good fireworks though.
Can I recommend Lampedusa’s The Leopard read by Alex Jennings on Radio 4 today? A superb novel, wonderful film by Luchino Visconti and a good radio adaptation.
“For things to stay the same everything must change.”
I can’t help feeling there’s a message in there about you-know-what......
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
"Gentlemen, you can't pontificate in here! This is the Brexit Room!"
Scene in the Brexit Room
* Minister Gove: The fools… the mad fools... * Prime Minister May: What’s happened? * Gove: The No-Deal Brexit. * May: The No-Deal Brexit? What is that? * Gove: A device which will destroy all human and animal life on UK. * May: All human and animal life? I’m afraid I don’t understand something, Gove. Is the ERG threatening to invoke this if our vote loses? * Gove: No sir. It is not a thing a sane man would do. The No-Deal Brexit is designed to to trigger itself automatically. * May: But surely you can disarm it somehow? * Gove: No. It is designed to execute if no attempt is ever made to supersede it. * May: Automatically? But, how is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically, and at the same time impossible to untrigger? * Hammond: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this No-Deal Brexit. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the No-Deal Brexit is terrifying. It’s simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing. * May: But this is horrific! Hammond. How can it be triggered automatically? * Hammond: Well, it’s remarkably simple to do that. When you merely wish to execute legislation, there is no limit to the size. After that they are connected to the miniscule brains of MPs. Then a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances, under which the legislation is to be executed, is programmed into Parliament. … * Hammond: Yes, but the whole point of the No-Deal Brexit is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, eh? * Gove: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the ERG loves surprises.
Very funny. But like the original (and "dead hand," its real life counterpart), also very scarily possible.
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
The 50-year-old suspect, whose name was not released, had a history of psychiatric illness but no previous police record or known affiliation with far-right extremist groups, said Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief for the area where the first attacks took place.
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Happy New Year to all. Good wishes in particular for speedy recoveries to @DavidL and @bigjohnowls for his lady wife.
It’s not Sadiq who pays. Londoners do.
I had a very quiet evening writing a new article for my blog (something I’m quite proud of) and nearly missed the changeover to 2019, tho TBH I rather loathe the idea of enforced jollity one day of the year. I watched the fireworks and completely missed the EU message. More important things to worry about, I’d have thought. Good fireworks though.
Can I recommend Lampedusa’s The Leopard read by Alex Jennings on Radio 4 today? A superb novel, wonderful film by Luchino Visconti and a good radio adaptation.
“For things to stay the same everything must change.”
I can’t help feeling there’s a message in there about you-know-what......
There is indeed. Listening to The Leopard I was struck by the Prince's observation of people supporting "yes" or "no" in the context of a plebiscite in Sicily that people might "prefer a known evil over an untried good". Is that the message you are hinting at?
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
The 50-year-old suspect, whose name was not released, had a history of psychiatric illness but no previous police record or known affiliation with far-right extremist groups, said Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief for the area where the first attacks took place.
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
The 50-year-old suspect, whose name was not released, had a history of psychiatric illness but no previous police record or known affiliation with far-right extremist groups, said Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief for the area where the first attacks took place.
No, she is too clever to ask such a foolish question.
I believe she did ask it but (as @williamglenn suggested) it was in the context Nick Clegg mansplaining how difficult it was to extricate ourselves from the EU.
No, she is too clever to ask such a foolish question.
I believe she did ask it but (as @williamglenn suggested) it was in the context Nick Clegg mansplaining how difficult it was to extricate ourselves from the EU.
I don't believe it is a quote, but if so Clegg was right...
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
The 50-year-old suspect, whose name was not released, had a history of psychiatric illness but no previous police record or known affiliation with far-right extremist groups, said Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief for the area where the first attacks took place.
No, she is too clever to ask such a foolish question.
I believe she did ask it but (as @williamglenn suggested) it was in the context Nick Clegg mansplaining how difficult it was to extricate ourselves from the EU.
I don't believe it is a quote, but if so Clegg was right...
No, she is too clever to ask such a foolish question.
I believe she did ask it but (as @williamglenn suggested) it was in the context Nick Clegg mansplaining how difficult it was to extricate ourselves from the EU.
I don't believe it is a quote, but if so Clegg was right...
Shame that we were taken in that deeply without authority
Having looked at this little video of the fireworks display, I'm not entirely convinced there was a "pro EU" message. Freeze frames can be rather misleading.
Yes, can't see it myself, but I'm sure most Londoners would like the idea. Being criticised by Andrew Bridgen and a former UKIP MEP is perfect placement for a Labour mayor.
Sympathies to Mrs BJO - really hope the corner is turned soon.
Remainers like myself were happy to accept the result and move on if a sensible Brexit deal was on offer and if the nutjobs in the ERG hadn’t wanted to rub Remainers noses in the dirt .
Brexit is now a right wing capitalism on steroids coup and I refuse to back this and won’t accept it .
May is a vile xenophobic little Englander whose obsessed with keeping fellow Europeans out , shes done zip to unite the country and she can shove her crap deal where the sun doesn’t shine .
+1
Oh screw it,
+2019
Thanks I’m done with appeasing leavers . The country is being trashed , the UKs reputation is in the toilet . People are losing their rights and freedoms all so some Leavers can get drunk on illusionary sovereignty and keep EU nationals out whilst just replacing them with non EU ones !
Thankfully no one is interested in what fuckwits like you think. Hopefully you will use your new EU passport to fuck off somewhere else more suited to your whining.
No, she is too clever to ask such a foolish question.
I believe she did ask it but (as @williamglenn suggested) it was in the context Nick Clegg mansplaining how difficult it was to extricate ourselves from the EU.
I don't believe it is a quote, but if so Clegg was right...
Shame that we were taken in that deeply without authority
Anyone who believes that separating from 50 years of intimate alignment would be simple, must be simple themselves.
And we joined, and added to the organisation via our sovereign parliament, so with authority.
Remainers like myself were happy to accept the result and move on if a sensible Brexit deal was on offer and if the nutjobs in the ERG hadn’t wanted to rub Remainers noses in the dirt .
Brexit is now a right wing capitalism on steroids coup and I refuse to back this and won’t accept it .
May is a vile xenophobic little Englander whose obsessed with keeping fellow Europeans out , shes done zip to unite the country and she can shove her crap deal where the sun doesn’t shine .
+1
Oh screw it,
+2019
Thanks I’m done with appeasing leavers . The country is being trashed , the UKs reputation is in the toilet . People are losing their rights and freedoms all so some Leavers can get drunk on illusionary sovereignty and keep EU nationals out whilst just replacing them with non EU ones !
Thankfully no one is interested in what fuckwits like you think. Hopefully you will use your new EU passport to fuck off somewhere else more suited to your whining.
The Queen never received this level of opprobrium from the Brexiteers for this bit of trolling.
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
They know it would be disrespectful to have a go at a descendant of the Prophet.
True, now am surprised this hasn't got more coverage on PB, again cannot imagine why?
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
The 50-year-old suspect, whose name was not released, had a history of psychiatric illness but no previous police record or known affiliation with far-right extremist groups, said Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief for the area where the first attacks took place.
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As someone who did pay a miniscule share toward the London fireworks this morning (to be accurate), I'm the lightest shade of can't be arsed about a reference to the EU.
No one wants a hostile antithetical relationship with the EU - they will remain a close and significant trading and business partner especially for London. As usual, Julia Hartley-Brewer is trying to create a sense of outrage where none exists.
In any case, I was too busy reading the VIz Christmas Annual and Mrs Stodge was complaining she couldn't sleep because of the banging (fnaar).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6544109/Woman-shot-gunman-opens-fire-inside-nightclub.html
A referendum on the Deal only leads to No Deal if rejected and a straight Remain v Deal referendum will never be accepted by No Dealers either
This day nine years ago Cameron opened the New Year with his "airbrushed" billboard campaign.
How we laughed!
Which seems appropriate under the circumstances.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commissioners/2014-2019_en#bootstrap-fieldgroup-nav-item--role--2
White, mainly pale and stale men. What a progressive organisation.
You Leavers keep on telling me Brexit will be fabulous and the UK will be forever grateful for Leaving.
Cameron is the man who made Brexit possible will be thanked for generations.
I thought the outrage bus was solely for snowflake lefties?
To paraphrase Christopher Lloyd, where we’re going to, we won’t need roads.
Some PMs actually look better with historical hindsight than they did when in power eg John Major
Churchill was ultimately somebody who stayed certainly 2 years and arguably 10 years too long. I would call that a failure.
Attlee left office having created the NHS and the modern welfare state, even if he did leave office after losing an election he had won 2 before.
Churchill was the greatest war leader we have ever had, his peacetime premiership was hardly a disaster either even if it did not match the heights of his wartime premiership and he became PM again after winning an election and making up for his 1945 loss
It's a view...
The Poll tax was a mistake but does not in any way alter the complete shake up of the UK economy Thatcher had successfully achieved by 1990
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6544455/Rishabh-Pant-pictured-Tim-Paines-kids-wife-skipper-asked-care-kids.html
Have a good evening.
I agree about Mrs T.
Attlee suffered because ramped up military expenditure pulled the rug from his domestic agenda, worsening austerity. Britons hadn't voted to be poorer.
Idiotic from Khan.
He's ok as a mayor, but he's nothing special. I'm not sure he can afford such serious black marks. However as it was a stunt I look forwards to having the costs refunded when it comes to my council tax. Every brass razzoo please Sadiq!
https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1080207143138217984
https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status/1079905450248847361
Anyone know why Brexiteers are getting really upset at Khan and not the Queen?
* Minister Gove: The fools… the mad fools...
* Prime Minister May: What’s happened?
* Gove: The No-Deal Brexit.
* May: The No-Deal Brexit? What is that?
* Gove: A device which will destroy all human and animal life on UK.
* May: All human and animal life? I’m afraid I don’t understand something, Gove. Is the ERG threatening to invoke this if our vote loses?
* Gove: No sir. It is not a thing a sane man would do. The No-Deal Brexit is designed to to trigger itself automatically.
* May: But surely you can disarm it somehow?
* Gove: No. It is designed to execute if no attempt is ever made to supersede it.
* May: Automatically? But, how is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically, and at the same time impossible to untrigger?
* Hammond: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this No-Deal Brexit. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the No-Deal Brexit is terrifying. It’s simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing.
* May: But this is horrific! Hammond. How can it be triggered automatically?
* Hammond: Well, it’s remarkably simple to do that. When you merely wish to execute legislation, there is no limit to the size. After that they are connected to the miniscule brains of MPs. Then a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances, under which the legislation is to be executed, is programmed into Parliament. …
* Hammond: Yes, but the whole point of the No-Deal Brexit is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, eh?
* Gove: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the ERG loves surprises.
It’s not Sadiq who pays. Londoners do.
I had a very quiet evening writing a new article for my blog (something I’m quite proud of) and nearly missed the changeover to 2019, tho TBH I rather loathe the idea of enforced jollity one day of the year. I watched the fireworks and completely missed the EU message. More important things to worry about, I’d have thought. Good fireworks though.
Can I recommend Lampedusa’s The Leopard read by Alex Jennings on Radio 4 today? A superb novel, wonderful film by Luchino Visconti and a good radio adaptation.
“For things to stay the same everything must change.”
I can’t help feeling there’s a message in there about you-know-what......
Targeting foreigners, a man repeatedly drove his car at pedestrians celebrating New Year’s Eve in western Germany, injuring four people before being arrested, the police and prosecutors said Tuesday.
The suspect made comments disparaging of foreigners when the police detained and questioned him, Herbert Reul, interior minister for the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the attacks took place, told reporters on Tuesday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/world/europe/germany-foreigners-attack.html
Listening to The Leopard I was struck by the Prince's observation of people supporting "yes" or "no" in the context of a plebiscite in Sicily that people might "prefer a known evil over an untried good".
Is that the message you are hinting at?
This quote could apply to our politicians. Dangerous for us all.
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1080222584996794368
In all seriousness even if she is a Remainer, nobody seriously believes she'd engage in that sorr of trolling, whereas Khan would and did.
https://youtu.be/MpGcxgnQfkI
Sympathies to Mrs BJO - really hope the corner is turned soon.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/01/israels-main-opposition-dramatically-disbands-before-election
And we joined, and added to the organisation via our sovereign parliament, so with authority.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/what-trumps-supporters-think-of-corruption/568147/
Mr Clack also said he heard the knifeman shouting "Allah" during the attack, along with a slogan criticising Western governments.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-46731503
https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1080164985991561217?s=21
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/01/uk/united-kingdom-luke-mcgee-analysis-intl-gbr/index.html
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