It's a cunning version of a unicorn: a future theoretical unicorn. Would probably be legally unworkable, and/or challenged at the time, but who cares. Provides an excuse for declared antis who want to change.
I think the idea would be to give parliament the choice between extending transition and falling into the backstop. It's purely a cosmetic concession.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
The Labour party are not voting it down because they support Remain but because they want to bring down the government. Tory Remainers don't have the votes to pass the deal even if they wanted to.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
You really are pushing a lie, or are you so dense you really think only Remainers will be voting against this deal?
Wow. It is quite remarkable how many factual inaccuracies and outright lies he has managed to pack into such a short piece. That is the best you can come up with?
Mike Gapes does of course look very Gammon - time to retire and make way for someone more representative of modern day Ilford perhaps? I would happily nominate Sunil!
Labour's objective uber alles must be to force a GE. So why would they not quietly encourage a little Flint et ilk rebellion against the party line of opposing May's deal, just enough so it squeaks through? Then they might get the government falling with loss of the DUP conf & supply and they might get to fight a slam dunk GE against a tory party which has a large section of its supporters livid about the 'treacherous brexit sellout'. That's what I would be thinking if I was Johnny Mac and Seamus. Or would I?
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
The Labour party are not voting it down because they support Remain but because they want to bring down the government. Tory Remainers don't have the votes to pass the deal even if they wanted to.
If you want to bring down the Gov't then you support the bill.
Labour's objective uber alles must be to force a GE. So why would they not quietly encourage a little Flint et ilk rebellion against the party line of opposing May's deal, just enough so it squeaks through? Then they might get the government falling with loss of the DUP conf & supply and they might get to fight a slam dunk GE against a tory party which has a large section of its supporters livid about the 'treacherous brexit sellout'. That's what I would be thinking if I was Johnny Mac and Seamus. Or would I?
The problem is that the vote isn't close enough for that to work.
Today's YouGov has UKIP back down at 4% - suggests no groundswell of anger re Brexit not being delivered "properly".
PMQs also telling - Corbyn ignores Brexit - whatever the anoraks might think if we do have a GE Lab will ensure Brexit only plays a relatively small part.
Indeed thats the tradegy of Brexit. i'll let Labour have a free pass at power because they aren't the Tories in this area.
The double whammy is that with No Deal Corbyn won't have to worry about those pesky state aid rules.
Leavers really are about to permanently ruin the legacy of Mrs Thatcher.
I think it's more likely we get Corbyn & Remain, with Corbyn blaming the Conservatives for frustrating Brexit.
Nah, No Deal Brexit and Corbyn is what is more likely.
At least that would spare us the customary warnings during the election about 'the road to Venezuela', since we would already be there.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
The Labour party are not voting it down because they support Remain but because they want to bring down the government. Tory Remainers don't have the votes to pass the deal even if they wanted to.
Remainers are voting it down because they are trying to sabotage Brexit. They can not stand that the people voted Leave and so are determined to not allow a deal. That is why they created six mutually impossible tests.
You lot bang on about taking responsibility but are far too feckless to do it on your own irresponsible actions. Any economic damage or political extremism that results from No Deal will now be on you. The Brexit side has a workable deal that satisfies most concerns of both sides and will allow the country to move on. Remainers are blowing that up out of spite.
Wow. It is quite remarkable how many factual inaccuracies and outright lies he has managed to pack into such a short piece. That is the best you can come up with?
What is incorrect?
1. The Brexit bill payable to Brussels is not £50 billion 2. We would not have to pay £10 billion a year if we took the Norway option. As Andy Cooke pointed out last night on the same basis as Norway it would be about £4.9 billion. Actually a few of us on here did the calculations last year and the commitments would be around £3 billion. 3. We would not have surrendered all power and influence. In many areas Norway has far more power and influence within the Single Market than we do as they are not bound by QMV. 4. The Norwegians do not refer to their EEA membership as ‘integration without representation’. A small number of their politicians are vociferously pro EU and view things that way but many others are not and the population as a whole much prefers the EEA relationship to full EU membership. 5. Leaving the CAP and CFP does not require us to remain in the Irish backstop.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
You really are pushing a lie, or are you so dense you really think only Remainers will be voting against this deal?
Brexit-supporting MPs will be overwhelmingly voting for this deal. Remain-supporting MPs will be overwhelmingly voting against it. Responsibility will lie with Remain.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
The Labour party are not voting it down because they support Remain but because they want to bring down the government. Tory Remainers don't have the votes to pass the deal even if they wanted to.
Remainers are voting it down because they are trying to sabotage Brexit. They can not stand that the people voted Leave and so are determined to not allow a deal. That is why they created six mutually impossible tests.
You lot bang on about taking responsibility but are far too feckless to do it on your own irresponsible actions. Any economic damage or political extremism that results from No Deal will now be on you. The Brexit side has a workable deal that satisfies most concerns of both sides and will allow the country to move on. Remainers are blowing that up out of spite.
Wow. It is quite remarkable how many factual inaccuracies and outright lies he has managed to pack into such a short piece. That is the best you can come up with?
What is incorrect?
1. The Brexit bill payable to Brussels is not £50 billion 2. We would not have to pay £10 billion a year if we took the Norway option. As Andy Cooke pointed out last night on the same basis as Norway it would be about £4.9 billion. Actually a few of us on here did the calculations last year and the commitments would be around £3 billion. 3. We would not have surrendered all power and influence. In many areas Norway has far more power and influence within the Single Market than we do as they are not bound by QMV. 4. The Norwegians do not refer to their EEA membership as ‘integration without representation’. A small number of their politicians are vociferously pro EU and view things that way but many others are not and the population as a whole much prefers the EEA relationship to full EU membership. 5. Leaving the CAP and CFP does not require us to remain in the Irish backstop.
The analysis I read is that on issues that they care about, the Norwegians have far more influence as members of EFTA/EEA than they would as full EU members, but they also rubber stamp quite a lot of regulations and directives that they don't care much about.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
You really are pushing a lie, or are you so dense you really think only Remainers will be voting against this deal?
Brexit-supporting MPs will be overwhelmingly voting for this deal. Remain-supporting MPs will be overwhelmingly voting against it. Responsibility will lie with Remain.
Firstly it was all the remainers fault that the deal on the table wasn't up to scratch (I knew we could never trust that Mrs May.) Now it seems that the deal is fine, but it's those awful remainers who are sabotaging it by voting against. And of course they selfishly voted to deny the Tories their majority for a hard Brexit in the GE last year - how much more can we put up with them standing in the way of the national interest like that?
Frankly, I wouldn't trust a remainer to make me a cuppa or tie my shoelaces any more.
Oh really Mr Eagles, the Jerries are diverting their eyes from their own problems. Reading the German press each day always cheers me up.
Doing the same it strikes me that the countries are interchangeable. What country has a shortage of nurses, social workers, care workers, teachers etc. What country has 20% of working people in poverty and trying to do multiple jobs to make ends meet?
Let us count how many MPs are voting against based on being insufficiently Leave and how many are voting against on it being insufficiently Remain, shall we?
I take it nothing new was learnt with the release of the legal advice?
It means a huge amount for the future of legal advice to Government
Yes, probably not a good precedent to set.
Interesting question I meant to ask last night. When it comes to these sorts of procedural and constitutional issues, does precedent count in Parliament in the same way it does in a normal court of law?
Wow. It is quite remarkable how many factual inaccuracies and outright lies he has managed to pack into such a short piece. That is the best you can come up with?
What is incorrect?
1. The Brexit bill payable to Brussels is not £50 billion 2. We would not have to pay £10 billion a year if we took the Norway option. As Andy Cooke pointed out last night on the same basis as Norway it would be about £4.9 billion. Actually a few of us on here did the calculations last year and the commitments would be around £3 billion. 3. We would not have surrendered all power and influence. In many areas Norway has far more power and influence within the Single Market than we do as they are not bound by QMV. 4. The Norwegians do not refer to their EEA membership as ‘integration without representation’. A small number of their politicians are vociferously pro EU and view things that way but many others are not and the population as a whole much prefers the EEA relationship to full EU membership. 5. Leaving the CAP and CFP does not require us to remain in the Irish backstop.
The analysis I read is that on issues that they care about, the Norwegians have far more influence as members of EFTA/EEA than they would as full EU members, but they also rubber stamp quite a lot of regulations and directives that they don't care much about.
Indeed. They also actually get to propose and modify regulations and directives so it is hardly a one way street.
Oh really Mr Eagles, the Jerries are diverting their eyes from their own problems. Reading the German press each day always cheers me up.
Doing the same it strikes me that the countries are interchangeable. What country has a shortage of nurses, social workers, care workers, teachers etc. What country has 20% of working people in poverty and trying to do multiple jobs to make ends meet?
would it be the one whose rail system doesnt work, has crumbling infrastructure and where the car industry is falling off a cliff ?
"An alumnus of the University of Cambridge may have just solved the mystery of dark matter."
Notice the 'may'.
I quite liked the phlogiston theory, but nasty facts were its downfall. The jury is out on this so we wait to see if it goes the way of other theories.
Oh really Mr Eagles, the Jerries are diverting their eyes from their own problems. Reading the German press each day always cheers me up.
Doing the same it strikes me that the countries are interchangeable. What country has a shortage of nurses, social workers, care workers, teachers etc. What country has 20% of working people in poverty and trying to do multiple jobs to make ends meet?
Every election since 1974 has been held in either the spring or summer because politicians think that voters might be in more of an irritable and bad mood if they have to vote in winter or autumn. It'll be interesting to see what happens if we do have a January or February election. A February election certainly didn't work out for Edward Heath.
Let us count how many MPs are voting against based on being insufficiently Leave and how many are voting against on it being insufficiently Remain, shall we?
To a large extent, Remainers who oppose the Deal are adopting many of the same arguments as Leavers who oppose it. If and when Remain is achieved, those arguments will be dropped.
Sadly there will be very large numbers who will take them up on that offer or will not bother to vote at all. That is what the Remainers will have done. They will have made extremism acceptable and democracy a dirty word.
This is what Brexit has done.
You won.
Suck it up.
It will never be the fault of those who warned against it, campaigned against it, or voted against it.
It is entirely your fault. It is you who have lied and dissembled about the consequences of Brexit from day 1. And now you want to make sure it doesn't happen so you can't be proved wrong.
Lol. Because we've all been impressed with the thoughtful, co-ordinated and systematic way in which the leading Brexiters have set about progressing their vision since June 2016.
A Brexit deal is on the table. If Remainers vote it down, that will be your side's action that you are responsible for.
You really are pushing a lie, or are you so dense you really think only Remainers will be voting against this deal?
Tactically ERG Tory MPs and others in the party who have declared against the deal should reconsider their opposition and support it. It will still fail due to the opposition of the DUP but it will have the effect of switching the spotlight to the likes of Soubry, Woolaston and the other hard line remainiacs who would have to justify why they alone on the Tory benches are choosing to oppose the PM's deal with the EU if, as likely, that is what they choose to do.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
It is as if Facebook management said we really need to copy the Google motto, but misread the Don't bit.
It is why I avoid using Apps whenever I can and, instead, use the web browser to interact with these companies. It does not save me from Google however, because of Android....
It is as if Facebook management said we really need to copy the Google motto, but misread the Don't bit.
Google also seem to have turned it into "Enable Evil".
Absolutely.
I have to say having spoken to quite a few devs at Facebook and Google, most come across a totally naive to possible problems rather than setting out to be evil. Most are a bit like Johnny 5 from Short Circuit, need more data, need input (for my latest Neural Net project).
If the corporate money making side of things is like that is a different matter.
Having just bought an Android based Hua Wei for my other half and done almost all my shopping on Amazon this christmas, I for one accept our corporate and political global overlords.
Having just bought an Android based Hua Wei for my other half and done almost all my shopping on Amazon this christmas, I for one accept our corporate and political global overlords.
So the Chinese government now know what Santa is getting everybody for Christmas in your household...
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Actually unless you and Scott are women you will find I am very happy to insult both males and females equally.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
Having just bought an Android based Hua Wei for my other half and done almost all my shopping on Amazon this christmas, I for one accept our corporate and political global overlords.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
I thought you were threatening to move abroad post brexit ?
At least 90 people were arrested, and more than three tonnes of cocaine and 140kg of ecstasy were seized. Italian restaurants and ice cream parlours used to launder money were among the premises raided.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
I’m sure you could still move abroad if you wanted to.
Let us count how many MPs are voting against based on being insufficiently Leave and how many are voting against on it being insufficiently Remain, shall we?
To a large extent, Remainers who oppose the Deal are adopting many of the same arguments as Leavers who oppose it. If and when Remain is achieved, those arguments will be dropped.
Both Remainers and Leavers can see that BINO is not worth doing.
Having just bought an Android based Hua Wei for my other half and done almost all my shopping on Amazon this christmas, I for one accept our corporate and political global overlords.
So the Chinese government now know what Santa is getting everybody for Christmas in your household...
You might laugh but I'm going to have 'uuuuuuge points when China's social credit scheme goes global.
At least 90 people were arrested, and more than three tonnes of cocaine and 140kg of ecstasy were seized. Italian restaurants and ice cream parlours used to launder money were among the premises raided.
Wow. It is quite remarkable how many factual inaccuracies and outright lies he has managed to pack into such a short piece. That is the best you can come up with?
Mike Gapes does of course look very Gammon - time to retire and make way for someone more representative of modern day Ilford perhaps? I would happily nominate Sunil!
He's a committee timeserver who mostly slogs on for the free lunches, and nothing in the world is ever going to change under his watch. His seat is ultra safe for Labour but he's been under potential threat from the Asian membership in his constituency for some time; he'll retire next time, probably, and be replaced most probably by a muslim MP.
Having just bought an Android based Hua Wei for my other half and done almost all my shopping on Amazon this christmas, I for one accept our corporate and political global overlords.
While the rest of us toil in their underground sugar caves?
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Actually unless you and Scott are women you will find I am very happy to insult both males and females equally.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
As your insults are of the most pedestrian variety and embarrass you more than anything else I am fine with it. But I see that you are very loose-lipped when it comes to women.
And my subtantive point about you being dim remains. Not to understand the dynamic on the island of Ireland as you have demonstrated you don't, disqualifies you from taking part in any discussions about it.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
I am not saying piss off abroad. That is the last thing I want people to do. I am criticising someone who openly talks about being able to piss off abroad when the actions they are promoting cause chaos in our country.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
You would move from god's own county? How could you even contemplate it?
I am not saying piss off abroad. That is the last thing I want people to do. I am criticising someone who openly talks about being able to piss off abroad when the actions they are promoting cause chaos in our country.
But I am a Remainer - it is Brexit that is wrecking the country, and although I am able to go abroad, I have not done so.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
I am not saying piss off abroad. That is the last thing I want people to do. I am criticising someone who openly talks about being able to piss off abroad when the actions they are promoting cause chaos in our country.
That said, I think I could get a job in Australasia quite easily...
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Actually unless you and Scott are women you will find I am very happy to insult both males and females equally.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
As your insults are of the most pedestrian variety and embarrass you more than anything else I am fine with it. But I see that you are very loose-lipped when it comes to women.
And my subtantive point about you being dim remains. Not to understand the dynamic on the island of Ireland as you have demonstrated you don't, disqualifies you from taking part in any discussions about it.
I understand it far better than you do. And given the only woman I have knowingly insulted on here is Beverley whilst I am pleased to have insulted dozens of men, I would suggest your grasp of maths is about as accurate as your grasp of Irish history.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Actually unless you and Scott are women you will find I am very happy to insult both males and females equally.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
You would move from god's own county? How could you even contemplate it?
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Actually unless you and Scott are women you will find I am very happy to insult both males and females equally.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
As your insults are of the most pedestrian variety and embarrass you more than anything else I am fine with it. But I see that you are very loose-lipped when it comes to women.
And my subtantive point about you being dim remains. Not to understand the dynamic on the island of Ireland as you have demonstrated you don't, disqualifies you from taking part in any discussions about it.
I understand it far better than you do. And given the only woman I have knowingly insulted on here is Beverley whilst I am pleased to have insulted dozens of men I would suggest you grasp of maths is about as accurate as your grasp of Irish history.
Says the man who believes, along with the other Brexiter morons on here (some of whom are teenagers so can be forgiven) that the backstop should or could be junked.
The delusion is all yours I am afraid. Of course whatever happens you will be fine in your bolthole.
Northwest England?
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
He does it because you are a woman (I presume, I spoke to a bloke from Churchill insurance the other day, called Su) and for some reason he is happy to insult women which actually fits with his character all over. It's why he gave himself a break from PB. He has obviously learned nothing.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
To be fair to RT, he insults me too, and I identify as male
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
You would move from god's own county? How could you even contemplate it?
Yorkshire?
@Foxy lives in the Shires (the proper ones). Not the Provinces.
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You lot bang on about taking responsibility but are far too feckless to do it on your own irresponsible actions. Any economic damage or political extremism that results from No Deal will now be on you. The Brexit side has a workable deal that satisfies most concerns of both sides and will allow the country to move on. Remainers are blowing that up out of spite.
Why do you indulge in repeated ad hominem attacks? Do you think it will shame me into reversing my position?
2. We would not have to pay £10 billion a year if we took the Norway option. As Andy Cooke pointed out last night on the same basis as Norway it would be about £4.9 billion. Actually a few of us on here did the calculations last year and the commitments would be around £3 billion.
3. We would not have surrendered all power and influence. In many areas Norway has far more power and influence within the Single Market than we do as they are not bound by QMV.
4. The Norwegians do not refer to their EEA membership as ‘integration without representation’. A small number of their politicians are vociferously pro EU and view things that way but many others are not and the population as a whole much prefers the EEA relationship to full EU membership.
5. Leaving the CAP and CFP does not require us to remain in the Irish backstop.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/mps-are-trying-to-steal-brexit-warns-fox-jwmkt835b
Edit. And I am not interested in changing your position. Just pointing out your hypocrisy.
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1070322389811167232
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1070324570077519873
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1070326122657783809
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1070327149205303297
Mervyn King: "May's Brexit deal is a betrayal of Britain"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/04/mays-brexit-deal-betrayal-britain/
Julia Lopez MP: "The PM's deal is a deceit on the electorate"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/04/pms-deal-slithers-us-indefinite-limbo-deceit-electorate/
Mark Harper MP: "I cannot support a Brexit deal that would clip our wings"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/04/cannot-support-brexit-deal-would-clip-wings-should-spreading/
Frankly, I wouldn't trust a remainer to make me a cuppa or tie my shoelaces any more.
When my friend gave me directions to visit her place it was like
1) Turn right at Morrisons
2) Go past the crackwhores
3) Turn left where there's some burned out cars
"An alumnus of the University of Cambridge may have just solved the mystery of dark matter."
Notice the 'may'.
I quite liked the phlogiston theory, but nasty facts were its downfall. The jury is out on this so we wait to see if it goes the way of other theories.
'Ill try again in English
"but they also rubber stamp quite a lot of regulations and directives that they don't care much about."
Many EU countries do also. Many don't enforce properly either.
Plus of course he is too dim to argue the issue on its merits because, despite having two Irish parents, he doesn't understand the first thing about the island of Ireland.
Mr. Meeks, I maintain that the eagles were dicks for not just giving Frodo and Sam a lift.
I have to say having spoken to quite a few devs at Facebook and Google, most come across a totally naive to possible problems rather than setting out to be evil. Most are a bit like Johnny 5 from Short Circuit, need more data, need input (for my latest Neural Net project).
If the corporate money making side of things is like that is a different matter.
And, it would have made for a crappy story.
Moss Side? Never in a million years!!
It would've been a rubbish story, though.
The problem that Leavers have given me is that when they say "Piss off abroad" is that I used to be able to, but now cannot as I only have UK residance rights, so 31 fewer countries to move to*.
As Jonathan Pie said in one of his pieces on mansplaining recently. "If I talk to you in an insulting or patronising manner it is not because you are a woman, it is because you are a fucking moron".
The same applies in a select number of cases on here.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46452934
Sounds like asking for sprinkles on top of your dessert might not be what you expected in some of these ice cream parlours.
And my subtantive point about you being dim remains. Not to understand the dynamic on the island of Ireland as you have demonstrated you don't, disqualifies you from taking part in any discussions about it.
Meanwhile, in puritanical imbecile news: https://twitter.com/peta/status/1070066047414345729