Twitter Isabel Hardman @IsabelHardman 6m Results for deputy speaker election approach. @ayestotheright currently running through corridors of Parliament screaming with excitement.
John Rentoul fact checks the 'cost of living crisis:
"In other words, no change at all in three years. Cameron is guilty of selecting statistics; but Ed Miliband is guilty of exaggeration. Cost of living crisis? What cost of living crisis?"
15.42 It is all happening quickly now. It seems a deal to reopen government and avoid default has been reached.
These are just reports at the moment. Once we hear more we will confirm it.
So it looks as if a bipartisan deal has at last been reached in the US. It will be interesting to see how far the can has been kicked this time.
I think creditors are getting seriously fed up of this childish nonsense. Osborne's efforts to get the RMB more widely traded and traded in London could prove very well timed. As a general rule there is a tax on idiocy and the US will find its rate has gone up.
Unemployment down, employment up. I'm sure we'll be told these are the wrong sort of jobs, or that it's some cunning statistical ploy. But I'm taking it as good news.
Policemen who stitch up innocent people should be fired.
We send people to jail for Perjury. I believe that a former wife of a former cabinet minister has recently published a book about her experience of jail, gleaned following just such a conviction.
Parliament must ensure that it is the master of the police. Too many police, for too long, have escaped justice for lying. Some need to spend time inside to put a check on it.
What about shooting stray Brazilians or men carrying chair legs? Or must we wait until a firearms officer takes a pot-shot at Sir George Young?
I thought that the police should have been held to account for those incidents too, but if it takes an attack on an MP for Parliament to take such behaviour seriously then so be it. The opportunity to take action against the police should not be missed this time.
Few will notice a strike like they did in the old days, it will inconvenience business, but for the rest of us, 97% of what we receive in the post is junk mail. Royal Mail will just lose more business to competitors, Its a sort of Black Knight strike.
When should one begin to feel sorry for shareholders?
Never. Strikes in this industry are a risk factor that any prudent investor would price in.
I look forward to the usual voices calling for an enquiry into over pricing if the Royal Mail share value falls below that at IPO.
John Rentoul fact checks the 'cost of living crisis:
"In other words, no change at all in three years. Cameron is guilty of selecting statistics; but Ed Miliband is guilty of exaggeration. Cost of living crisis? What cost of living crisis?"
Policemen who stitch up innocent people should be fired.
We send people to jail for Perjury. I believe that a former wife of a former cabinet minister has recently published a book about her experience of jail, gleaned following just such a conviction.
Parliament must ensure that it is the master of the police. Too many police, for too long, have escaped justice for lying. Some need to spend time inside to put a check on it.
What about shooting stray Brazilians or men carrying chair legs? Or must we wait until a firearms officer takes a pot-shot at Sir George Young?
I thought that the police should have been held to account for those incidents too, but if it takes an attack on an MP for Parliament to take such behaviour seriously then so be it. The opportunity to take action against the police should not be missed this time.
Well yes, Obitus, it's simply a question of 'who's in charge - the Police or the Government?'
The Public will generally cut the Police a lot of slack and rightly so, but that doesn't give them the right to act like cowboys. Cameron has a great chance to rein them in now, if he wishes. His hand would probably have been stronger were it not for the mystery of the CCTV which Tim keeps banging on about, but the hand is very strong nevertheless.
@tim - love to chat but I'm off to chair the Elmbridge Cabinet. Not sure how many plebs I'll meet on the way, more concerned about all those doggers....
15.42 It is all happening quickly now. It seems a deal to reopen government and avoid default has been reached.
These are just reports at the moment. Once we hear more we will confirm it.
So it looks as if a bipartisan deal has at last been reached in the US. It will be interesting to see how far the can has been kicked this time.
I think creditors are getting seriously fed up of this childish nonsense. Osborne's efforts to get the RMB more widely traded and traded in London could prove very well timed. As a general rule there is a tax on idiocy and the US will find its rate has gone up.
As an American voter, I'm so relieved. Do you know that with all this shutdown nonsense, it's been OVER A WEEK since the House voted to strike down the ACA?
With all that free time on their hands, I fear for our GOP friends.
I believed the police at the time, because that's their job. To be truthful and uphold the law and order of the country. It wasn't specifically about not believing Mitchell - perhaps he misremembered what he said or some such. In addition I thought they wouldn't dare to be caught lieing again as Hillsborough was still heavily in the news iirc.
Any officers guilty of deliberate misinformation/lies in this saga should be sacked forthwith. And to Mr Mitchell, I apologise.
To me, the release of the police log and its wording was highly suspicious, and turned it into a political operation (although that did not mean the log was incorrect - other things sent me in that direction). Until the CCTV was released, I was minded towards believing that it was just one, or both, of the parties misremembering. But the CCTV throws so much doubt on the police's story that the rest of the log really cannot stand as an accurate record of what happened.
Remember the sick words of Peter Tully, chairman of the Police Federation, who accused Cameron of using 'hollow words' when he expressed tribute to the two dead police officers, because of what Mitchell was alleged to have said. Can anyone really support Tully now?
In my mind, it was political from the start. I'm still far from convinced it was a planned conspiracy (if it had been, we probably never would have found out), but the effect was the same.
Policemen who stitch up innocent people should be fired.
We send people to jail for Perjury. I believe that a former wife of a former cabinet minister has recently published a book about her experience of jail, gleaned following just such a conviction.
Parliament must ensure that it is the master of the police. Too many police, for too long, have escaped justice for lying. Some need to spend time inside to put a check on it.
What about shooting stray Brazilians or men carrying chair legs? Or must we wait until a firearms officer takes a pot-shot at Sir George Young?
I thought that the police should have been held to account for those incidents too, but if it takes an attack on an MP for Parliament to take such behaviour seriously then so be it. The opportunity to take action against the police should not be missed this time.
Well yes, Obitus, it's simply a question of 'who's in charge - the Police or the Government?'
The Public will generally cut the Police a lot of slack and rightly so, but that doesn't give them the right to act like cowboys. Cameron has a great chance to rein them in now, if he wishes. His hand would probably have been stronger were it not for the mystery of the CCTV which Tim keeps banging on about, but the hand is very strong nevertheless.
We should all hope he plays it deftly.
If I could believe that anyone was that Machiavellian, I could almost believe that Cameron decided to sacrifice Mitchell so that the police could be given the time and space to demonstrate to everyone why they can't be trusted.
Policemen who stitch up innocent people should be fired.
We send people to jail for Perjury. I believe that a former wife of a former cabinet minister has recently published a book about her experience of jail, gleaned following just such a conviction.
Parliament must ensure that it is the master of the police. Too many police, for too long, have escaped justice for lying. Some need to spend time inside to put a check on it.
What about shooting stray Brazilians or men carrying chair legs? Or must we wait until a firearms officer takes a pot-shot at Sir George Young?
I thought that the police should have been held to account for those incidents too, but if it takes an attack on an MP for Parliament to take such behaviour seriously then so be it. The opportunity to take action against the police should not be missed this time.
Well yes, Obitus, it's simply a question of 'who's in charge - the Police or the Government?'
The Public will generally cut the Police a lot of slack and rightly so, but that doesn't give them the right to act like cowboys. Cameron has a great chance to rein them in now, if he wishes. His hand would probably have been stronger were it not for the mystery of the CCTV which Tim keeps banging on about, but the hand is very strong nevertheless.
We should all hope he plays it deftly.
If I could believe that anyone was that Machiavellian, I could almost believe that Cameron decided to sacrifice Mitchell so that the police could be given the time and space to demonstrate to everyone why they can't be trusted.
LOL!
Yes, I'd like to believe that too, Obitus, but somehow.....
I've not long finished reading Rawnesley's 'The End Of The Party' and it's evident from that that The Thick Of It comes very close to the truth in revealing the way things really operate.
Of course, THAT was about a Labour administration. Things may be very different under the Coalition. [Coughs lightly.]
all these PB Tories, how many of them ever post anything about political betting markets?
Got your shiny sovereign ready for May 2015 tim? You really think Ed is going to get more than 35% of the UK-wide vote? The Miliband-Balls economic clowns are going to get 6% more of the vote than the saviour of the world economy, Gordon Brown? On the back of the Coalition delivering 9 quarters of economic growth, saving us from double dip, massive private sector job creation, house prices nicely moving along while base interest rates are still 0.5% etc etc....
I'll be generous and let you settle now for a half sov....
Mail has quaint story on Mr Speaker Bercow's wife, plenty of photographs, but unclear about reasons why her taxi was stopped by the Police last night. Even more unclear is how parapazzi just happened to know about it.
tim October 15 Labour MPs are quite behind Laing I think, and Number Ten nudging a vote for a non Dorries woman.
Do any of the PB Tories besides Richard Nabavi, Pulpstar and occasionally David Herdson post about political betting, ever?
I can't think of the last time.
Yes, tim, the strong favourite won. Well done!
No big deal, I made much more on my Holland/Turkey football bet, but seriously, all these PB Tories, how many of them ever post anything about political betting markets?
I was thinking this yesterday with the Ricardohos hilarity, almost none of them.
Not betting with you doesn't mean not betting tim.
I've been laying Lab maj on betfair for months and Lab most seats.
Policemen who stitch up innocent people should be fired.
We send people to jail for Perjury. I believe that a former wife of a former cabinet minister has recently published a book about her experience of jail, gleaned following just such a conviction.
Parliament must ensure that it is the master of the police. Too many police, for too long, have escaped justice for lying. Some need to spend time inside to put a check on it.
What about shooting stray Brazilians or men carrying chair legs? Or must we wait until a firearms officer takes a pot-shot at Sir George Young?
I thought that the police should have been held to account for those incidents too, but if it takes an attack on an MP for Parliament to take such behaviour seriously then so be it. The opportunity to take action against the police should not be missed this time.
Well yes, Obitus, it's simply a question of 'who's in charge - the Police or the Government?'
The Public will generally cut the Police a lot of slack and rightly so, but that doesn't give them the right to act like cowboys. Cameron has a great chance to rein them in now, if he wishes. His hand would probably have been stronger were it not for the mystery of the CCTV which Tim keeps banging on about, but the hand is very strong nevertheless.
We should all hope he plays it deftly.
If I could believe that anyone was that Machiavellian, I could almost believe that Cameron decided to sacrifice Mitchell so that the police could be given the time and space to demonstrate to everyone why they can't be trusted.
Not sure the brilliant Machiavellian genius tag works for the man who couldn't get boundary changes through.
You will see. It's all part of a bigger plan to convince the Tories of the merits of STV.
Interesting that it was STV with a twist. In the final round, Clifton-Brown was excluded ahead of Clarke, despite having more votes. This was because only one Con Deputy was required (Bercow was Con), and Evans had already been elected...
Shows how versatile STV is, and that procedure is part of my schema for PR^2.
Revealed: The cost of living is rising faster in the UK than anywhere in Europe, with soaring food and energy bills blamed Inflation in the UK in September was 2.7%, highest in the whole of the EU
I hardly ever bet, don't go on the exchanges so can't take advantage of a price movement my way to cash out early and in any case, not being a professional punter or rich, it doesn't matter to me one way or another whether I win or lose £50 on a view or not. And, like Ricardohos (sp?) I'm not tying up either a wodge or a smidge of cash for 18 months.
That said, I am of course betting my whole livelihood and putting my entire net worth on the outcome of the next election so in that sense, and I think the sense that many (if not I appreciate most) PB contributors see the site.
Mail has quaint story on Mr Speaker Bercow's wife, plenty of photographs, but unclear about reasons why her taxi was stopped by the Police last night. Even more unclear is how parapazzi just happened to know about it.
It was an awards ceremony in Central London. The paps would have been out in force. That's what they do: snap the celebs going in and coming out again a few hours later.
"Here’s the latest twist in the Andrew Mitchell saga. The IPCC’s Deborah Glass now says in a letter that the initial police investigation into whether Police Federation police officers had a case to answer for misconduct was watered down by the forces involved.
Deborah Glass says that the draft report she originally saw in July said there was a case of misconduct to answer and the second report sent in October said there was no case to answer. Deborah Glass says in her letter published today that she doesn’t believe that the evidence supported the case of no case to answer."
Mail has quaint story on Mr Speaker Bercow's wife, plenty of photographs, but unclear about reasons why her taxi was stopped by the Police last night. Even more unclear is how parapazzi just happened to know about it.
Gary Gibbon there, straying laughably off the main point of the story , which as we;ve read in countless timposts today is all about David Cameron and CCTV.
"Here’s the latest twist in the Andrew Mitchell saga. The IPCC’s Deborah Glass now says in a letter that the initial police investigation into whether Police Federation police officers had a case to answer for misconduct was watered down by the forces involved.
Deborah Glass says that the draft report she originally saw in July said there was a case of misconduct to answer and the second report sent in October said there was no case to answer. Deborah Glass says in her letter published today that she doesn’t believe that the evidence supported the case of no case to answer."
Oh dear, oh dear. I do hope Ms Glass kept a copy of the draft report she was originally shown.
Mail has quaint story on Mr Speaker Bercow's wife, plenty of photographs, but unclear about reasons why her taxi was stopped by the Police last night. Even more unclear is how parapazzi just happened to know about it.
Twitter Chris Ship @chrisshipitv 12m IPCC letter on #plebgate says senior officers CHANGED FINDINGS of report which found WAS case to answer for misconduct re meeting w Mitchell
"Here’s the latest twist in the Andrew Mitchell saga. The IPCC’s Deborah Glass now says in a letter that the initial police investigation into whether Police Federation police officers had a case to answer for misconduct was watered down by the forces involved.
Deborah Glass says that the draft report she originally saw in July said there was a case of misconduct to answer and the second report sent in October said there was no case to answer. Deborah Glass says in her letter published today that she doesn’t believe that the evidence supported the case of no case to answer."
Oh dear, oh dear. I do hope Ms Glass kept a copy of the draft report she was originally shown.
I waz threatened by two of West Yorkshire's finest many years ago.Told me, convincingly, to my face they would plant drugs on me unless I complied with an, to my eyes , unreasonable instruction. So of course I obeyed These people are used fo getting their way. I have never trusted the police since. If the Mitchell affair spreads doubt in the minds of people who previously assumed they could rely on ths police's word this is a good thing.
I waz threatened by two of West Yorkshire's finest many years ago.Told me, convincingly, to my face they would plant drugs on me unless I complied with an, to my eyes , unreasonable instruction. So of course I obeyed These people are used fo getting their way. I have never trusted the police since. If the Mitchell affair spreads doubt in the minds of people who previously assumed they could rely on ths police's word this is a good thing.
I was involved in a court case some years ago involving bullying, intimidation and lying within the prison service. The evidence against certain union officials was overwhelming and acknowledged to be so by the governor of the prison concerned. But nothing had been done. They seemed untouchable.
What we seem to be seeing here is a similar pattern of weak management and a reluctance to take on officials of the Police Federation. At least one reason why the police are being so defensive about it is that they know it and thought (quite bizarrely given the political context) that they could just make this all go away.
I waz threatened by two of West Yorkshire's finest many years ago.Told me, convincingly, to my face they would plant drugs on me unless I complied with an, to my eyes , unreasonable instruction. So of course I obeyed These people are used fo getting their way. I have never trusted the police since. If the Mitchell affair spreads doubt in the minds of people who previously assumed they could rely on ths police's word this is a good thing.
I take it you were young and "unlikely to believed" at the time.
This should be interesting. I wonder if the bits not associated with the Forties pipeline network will ever be restarted.
'The Grangemouth oil refinery is to be closed for at least a week, threatening fuel supplies in Scotland, as its owner complains of financial damage from a threatened strike.'
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
I waz threatened by two of West Yorkshire's finest many years ago.Told me, convincingly, to my face they would plant drugs on me unless I complied with an, to my eyes , unreasonable instruction. So of course I obeyed These people are used fo getting their way. I have never trusted the police since. If the Mitchell affair spreads doubt in the minds of people who previously assumed they could rely on ths police's word this is a good thing.
I was involved in a court case some years ago involving bullying, intimidation and lying within the prison service. The evidence against certain union officials was overwhelming and acknowledged to be so by the governor of the prison concerned. But nothing had been done. They seemed untouchable.
What we seem to be seeing here is a similar pattern of weak management and a reluctance to take on officials of the Police Federation. At least one reason why the police are being so defensive about it is that they know it and thought (quite bizarrely given the political context) that they could just make this all go away.
One of the more interesting 'asides' in Blair's autobiography, A Journey, is the comment that of all the Trade Unions he dealt with, none was better organised and more effective than the Police Federation.
Personally I've always regarded them as very similar to Bob Crow's crew,the RMT, but with better PR. Looks like they may have overstepped the mark this time though.
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
All he said was China > Labour....
Yes, it was just silly undergraduate politicking. Typical of GO really.
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
All he said was China > Labour....
Wonder how Dave would take the As A Father Of One policy. I guess it would shut him up about Maria Hutchings. "Mother of one, mother of one, local mother of one"
The One Show have just played the Proclaimers song "(I'm going to be) 500 miles"
It goes something like: "But I would walk 500 miles, And I would walk 500 more, Just to be the man who walked 1,000 miles, To fall down at your door"
They've made a killing from this song for a couple of decades now. Well, I've got news for them: I've tried it, and it doesn't blooming well work. I walked 6,200 doors from Edinburgh through Leith, virtually passing their door, and she still blooming left me ...
Must say I am pleased Southern Comfort has come down from his moral superiority over not being negative about individual politicians with his remarks over Osbourne .
Revealed: The cost of living is rising faster in the UK than anywhere in Europe, with soaring food and energy bills blamed Inflation in the UK in September was 2.7%, highest in the whole of the EU
61% LAB voters say EM is 30% LD voters say NC is 20% CON voters say DC is
tim
I think it is you that is out of touch not Dave.
Consumer Price Inflation is only one factor in a family's or individual's living standards. Tax rates and benefit payments, housing costs (mortgage interest and rental rates) and income levels all impact on the amount of disposable income available.
You might like to ask yourself why household debt has been reduced and the saving ratio held at relatively high levels over the past three years. In aggregate, households may have reduced consumption expenditure as a proportion of their disposable income but their net worth has increased.
Obviously there will be differences between different social groups (e.g. between low income tenants and high income mortgage payers) but overall it is inaccurate to describe today's circumstances as a "cost of living crisis".
If you were more in touch, you would also look at the Consumer Price Index and ask yourself how much of the "higher than the rest of Europe" inflation rate is due to regulatory and administrative price rises and how much represents underlying cost inflation. The last BoE estimate I read was that the underlying rate of UK inflation was very close to the EU average (1.3 vs. (the then) 1.2%).
The fact that the government is shifting public sector 'investment' spending onto consumers through 'above inflation' administrative price rises (e.g. rail fares, domestic energy and other utility supplies, tuition fees etc.) accounts for much of the UK's above average CPI figures. It is a painful part of the downsizing of public sector funding obligations which will in the medium to longer term provide the government with additional flexibility and scope to reduce tax burdens and to target benefit expenditure more effectively.
I think I would much prefer to be the UK with the highest inflation and growth rates in Europe than Greece which is at the other end of the spectrum. Wouldn't you?
The One Show have just played the Proclaimers song "(I'm going to be) 500 miles"
It goes something like: "But I would walk 500 miles, And I would walk 500 more, Just to be the man who walked 1,000 miles, To fall down at your door"
They've made a killing from this song for a couple of decades now. Well, I've got news for them: I've tried it, and it doesn't blooming well work. I walked 6,200 doors from Edinburgh through Leith, virtually passing their door, and she still blooming left me ...
:-)
Of course it doesn't work , the reason being its bloody obsessive behaviour . I would run a mile if somebody said they had walked a 1000 miles to see me.
The One Show have just played the Proclaimers song "(I'm going to be) 500 miles"
It goes something like: "But I would walk 500 miles, And I would walk 500 more, Just to be the man who walked 1,000 miles, To fall down at your door"
They've made a killing from this song for a couple of decades now. Well, I've got news for them: I've tried it, and it doesn't blooming well work. I walked 6,200 doors from Edinburgh through Leith, virtually passing their door, and she still blooming left me ...
:-)
Of course it doesn't work , the reason being its bloody obsessive behaviour . I would run a mile if somebody said they had walked a 1000 miles to see me.
How far would they have to walk for you to run 1,000 miles?
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
He thinks he's being clever. He always thinks he's being clever.
We established our business in 2003, under Labour. It would be illegal in China. Ask Google how biz friendly China is, or anyone else interested in building any information-based company. Might also be worth asking what IP owners think of the place. Don't get me wrong, there are huge opportunities there; but you have to play the game. Silly GO.
If someone walked a million miles to be at my door, I'd be blooming impressed. At (say) a brisk four miles an hour, that's 10,000 days, or 28 years, of continuous walking, day and night.
I'd at least have to invite them in for a kiss and fondle after that.
Judging from the thread we can add attracting investment from china as the 'wrong kind of investment', to go with the growing number of'' wrong kinds'' that labour supporters are trotting out these days (wrong kind of growth, wrong kind of employment etc etc).
With China surely looking to diversify its gargantuan dollar portfolio, any fool can see now is a good time to attract investment from them.
Presumably ed would hold a full public enquiry....
AveryLP NONE of the party leaders are in touch, they all have/had fathers who were multi-millionaires, they are all married to wives who either earn more than they do or in the case of Samantha Cameron have huge family estates, Clegg is descended from Russian Aristocracy, Cameron is a distant cousin of the Queen, and Miliband is son of a leading Marxist historian, none have ever needed to worry about where the money is coming from to pay the bills or buy the food and groceries at the supermarket and none ever will. We have not had an election where all the main party leaders are so drawn from the wealthy and upper middle class since 1959 when Winchester educated Gaitskill faced Eton educated Macmillan and Eton educated Jo Grimond!
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
He thinks he's being clever. He always thinks he's being clever.
We established our business in 2003, under Labour. It would be illegal in China. Ask Google how biz friendly China is, or anyone else interested in building any information-based company. Might also be worth asking what IP owners think of the place. Don't get me wrong, there are huge opportunities there; but you have to play the game. Silly GO.
That's odd. I distinctly remembered having a conversation with you last year about IP problems with China, and you distinctly said that it wasn't bad over there.
Plebgate: David Cameron should reinstate Andrew Mitchell, minister says
David Cameron should reinstate Andrew Mitchell as Chief Whip if he is cleared following investigations into the Plebgate row, a Conservative minister has said.
Mr Mitchell met three officers and Police Federation representatives at his constituency. Their statements to the media afterwards, claiming Mr Mitchell had refused to explain what he said in Downing St that night, appeared to be contradicted by a secret recording of the encounter made by Mr Mitchell.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission yesterday ruled there was evidence those officers set out to deliberately discredit Mr Mitchell and they should face gross misconduct proceedings.
But they were initially cleared of wrongdoing by West Mercia Police, which found there was no case to answer for gross misconduct and they had merely been naïve.
Mr Clark, a cabinet minister, told BBC Radio 4's World at One: "I think most of us would be inclined to believe the evidence of police officers that would be the default position – there’s also the prospect of prosecutions going on in terms of what happened in Downing St, so it would be wrong to comment on that.
Silly GO. No independent judiciary, no free movement of finance, people or information. Does he really think China is what we should aspire to be? Maybe it's the low wages, lack of healthcare and employee protections he likes. It's just more JCR kickabout from our Chancellor when what we need is a grown-up in charge of the nation's finances.
He thinks he's being clever. He always thinks he's being clever.
We established our business in 2003, under Labour. It would be illegal in China. Ask Google how biz friendly China is, or anyone else interested in building any information-based company. Might also be worth asking what IP owners think of the place. Don't get me wrong, there are huge opportunities there; but you have to play the game. Silly GO.
That's odd. I distinctly remembered having a conversation with you last year about IP problems with China, and you distinctly said that it wasn't bad over there.
Have your fingers been burnt?
He probably doesn't like the way the State intervenes.
(Unless it's appropriating private property in the UK).
So you're in favour, 35 years guaranteed high energy prices and the green taxes directed to the Chinesse Communist establishment. Glad you cleared that up.
No more squealing about green taxes from you on here, thankfully
GO was visiting Huawei today -is their business green energy ?
This should be interesting. I wonder if the bits not associated with the Forties pipeline network will ever be restarted.
'The Grangemouth oil refinery is to be closed for at least a week, threatening fuel supplies in Scotland, as its owner complains of financial damage from a threatened strike.'
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Isabel Hardman @IsabelHardman 6m
Results for deputy speaker election approach. @ayestotheright currently running through corridors of Parliament screaming with excitement.
"In other words, no change at all in three years. Cameron is guilty of selecting statistics; but Ed Miliband is guilty of exaggeration. Cost of living crisis? What cost of living crisis?"
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/10/16/rising-disposable-income-fact-check/
15.42 It is all happening quickly now. It seems a deal to reopen government and avoid default has been reached.
These are just reports at the moment. Once we hear more we will confirm it.
So it looks as if a bipartisan deal has at last been reached in the US. It will be interesting to see how far the can has been kicked this time.
I think creditors are getting seriously fed up of this childish nonsense. Osborne's efforts to get the RMB more widely traded and traded in London could prove very well timed. As a general rule there is a tax on idiocy and the US will find its rate has gone up.
Unemployment down, employment up. I'm sure we'll be told these are the wrong sort of jobs, or that it's some cunning statistical ploy. But I'm taking it as good news.
"Big Q on Plebgate, why was West Mercia inquiry report watered down between July and yesterday? And who did it?"
The Public will generally cut the Police a lot of slack and rightly so, but that doesn't give them the right to act like cowboys. Cameron has a great chance to rein them in now, if he wishes. His hand would probably have been stronger were it not for the mystery of the CCTV which Tim keeps banging on about, but the hand is very strong nevertheless.
We should all hope he plays it deftly.
Er, woof?
With all that free time on their hands, I fear for our GOP friends.
Remember the sick words of Peter Tully, chairman of the Police Federation, who accused Cameron of using 'hollow words' when he expressed tribute to the two dead police officers, because of what Mitchell was alleged to have said. Can anyone really support Tully now?
In my mind, it was political from the start. I'm still far from convinced it was a planned conspiracy (if it had been, we probably never would have found out), but the effect was the same.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19683692
Oh, and good on you for apologising and admitting you were taken in by the lies.
Laing 273
Binley 240
See here for various documents about it.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2013/october/deputy-speaker-election-nominations/
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-public-bill-office/Deputy-Speaker-Election-results-8-June-2010.pdf
Yes, I'd like to believe that too, Obitus, but somehow.....
I've not long finished reading Rawnesley's 'The End Of The Party' and it's evident from that that The Thick Of It comes very close to the truth in revealing the way things really operate.
Of course, THAT was about a Labour administration. Things may be very different under the Coalition. [Coughs lightly.]
Here is the briefing note
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/deputy-speakers-election-guidance.pdf
Funny, I couldn't find anything about some people having two votes, losers becoming winners, etc...
Or are such lies only permitted to be told to the public in a referendum? ;-)
I'll be generous and let you settle now for a half sov....
Laing 148
Binsley 126
Bellingham 87
Streeter 86
Burns 64
Amess 27
Nadine 13
5 to Laing, 4 to Binley, 2 to Burns, 1 to Streeter, 1 to Amess
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2462718/Sally-Bercow-leaves-Attitude-Magazine-Awards-party-fingered-gesture.html
Transfers from Burns: 23 to Bellingham, 17 to Laing, 12 to Binley, to Streeter. Non transferable 10
Transfers from Streeter: 38 to Bellingham, 31 to Laing, 19 to Binley. Non transferable 7
Transfers from Bellingham: 69 to Laing, 68 to Binley. Non transferable 19
I've been laying Lab maj on betfair for months and Lab most seats.
In the final round, Clifton-Brown was excluded ahead of Clarke, despite having more votes. This was because only one Con Deputy was required (Bercow was Con), and Evans had already been elected...
Shows how versatile STV is, and that procedure is part of my schema for PR^2.
they also had a quota for women. It wasn't necessary last time as Primarolo was ahead of the Clarke anyway.
Guilty m'Lord.
I hardly ever bet, don't go on the exchanges so can't take advantage of a price movement my way to cash out early and in any case, not being a professional punter or rich, it doesn't matter to me one way or another whether I win or lose £50 on a view or not. And, like Ricardohos (sp?) I'm not tying up either a wodge or a smidge of cash for 18 months.
That said, I am of course betting my whole livelihood and putting my entire net worth on the outcome of the next election so in that sense, and I think the sense that many (if not I appreciate most) PB contributors see the site.
"Here’s the latest twist in the Andrew Mitchell saga. The IPCC’s Deborah Glass now says in a letter that the initial police investigation into whether Police Federation police officers had a case to answer for misconduct was watered down by the forces involved.
Deborah Glass says that the draft report she originally saw in July said there was a case of misconduct to answer and the second report sent in October said there was no case to answer. Deborah Glass says in her letter published today that she doesn’t believe that the evidence supported the case of no case to answer."
Lab: 45%
Con: 32%
LD: 10%
UKIP: 9%
2010 election figures for Greater London:
Lab: 36.6%
Con: 34.5%
LD: 22.1%
UKIP: 1.7%
Green: 1.6%
BNP: 1.5%
Changes:
Lab: +8.4%
Con: -2.5%
LD: -12.1%
UKIP: +7.3%
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8255
Gary Gibbon there, straying laughably off the main point of the story , which as we;ve read in countless timposts today is all about David Cameron and CCTV.
What must his audience be thinking?
Oops, no. He wasn't vindicated. Sorry.
Chris Ship @chrisshipitv 12m
IPCC letter on #plebgate says senior officers CHANGED FINDINGS of report which found WAS case to answer for misconduct re meeting w Mitchell
Ed will take this as a compliment. ...
What we seem to be seeing here is a similar pattern of weak management and a reluctance to take on officials of the Police Federation. At least one reason why the police are being so defensive about it is that they know it and thought (quite bizarrely given the political context) that they could just make this all go away.
Ian Katz
@iankatz1000
Here's that clip of Osborne telling @maitlis Chinese Communist Party more market friendly than Labour Party
'The Grangemouth oil refinery is to be closed for at least a week, threatening fuel supplies in Scotland, as its owner complains of financial damage from a threatened strike.'
http://news.sky.com/story/1155152/fuel-risk-as-grangemouth-crisis-deepens
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/movement-at-lotus-f1-team/
That'd be good for the sport, I think.
One of the more interesting 'asides' in Blair's autobiography, A Journey, is the comment that of all the Trade Unions he dealt with, none was better organised and more effective than the Police Federation.
Personally I've always regarded them as very similar to Bob Crow's crew,the RMT, but with better PR. Looks like they may have overstepped the mark this time though.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/vib3vot67b/YG-Archive-London-Evening-Standard-results-111013.pdf
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-16/nicola-roxon-kevin-rudd-bastard-james-button-memorial-lecture/5027030
The One Show have just played the Proclaimers song "(I'm going to be) 500 miles"
It goes something like:
"But I would walk 500 miles,
And I would walk 500 more,
Just to be the man who walked 1,000 miles,
To fall down at your door"
They've made a killing from this song for a couple of decades now. Well, I've got news for them: I've tried it, and it doesn't blooming well work. I walked 6,200 doors from Edinburgh through Leith, virtually passing their door, and she still blooming left me ...
:-)
I think it is you that is out of touch not Dave.
Consumer Price Inflation is only one factor in a family's or individual's living standards. Tax rates and benefit payments, housing costs (mortgage interest and rental rates) and income levels all impact on the amount of disposable income available.
You might like to ask yourself why household debt has been reduced and the saving ratio held at relatively high levels over the past three years. In aggregate, households may have reduced consumption expenditure as a proportion of their disposable income but their net worth has increased.
Obviously there will be differences between different social groups (e.g. between low income tenants and high income mortgage payers) but overall it is inaccurate to describe today's circumstances as a "cost of living crisis".
If you were more in touch, you would also look at the Consumer Price Index and ask yourself how much of the "higher than the rest of Europe" inflation rate is due to regulatory and administrative price rises and how much represents underlying cost inflation. The last BoE estimate I read was that the underlying rate of UK inflation was very close to the EU average (1.3 vs. (the then) 1.2%).
The fact that the government is shifting public sector 'investment' spending onto consumers through 'above inflation' administrative price rises (e.g. rail fares, domestic energy and other utility supplies, tuition fees etc.) accounts for much of the UK's above average CPI figures. It is a painful part of the downsizing of public sector funding obligations which will in the medium to longer term provide the government with additional flexibility and scope to reduce tax burdens and to target benefit expenditure more effectively.
I think I would much prefer to be the UK with the highest inflation and growth rates in Europe than Greece which is at the other end of the spectrum. Wouldn't you?
I'd at least have to invite them in for a kiss and fondle after that.
Perhaps after they'd showered.
With China surely looking to diversify its gargantuan dollar portfolio, any fool can see now is a good time to attract investment from them.
Presumably ed would hold a full public enquiry....
Have your fingers been burnt?
The wrong kind of way to attract overseas investment?
You didn;t want to do it like that, you wanted to do it like this.....
Is consumer champion ed opposing it?
thought not.
(Unless it's appropriating private property in the UK).