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  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728
    edited October 2018

    Cesar Sayoc and his social media activities. At first he posted food photos then descended into a rightwing social media vortex:

    In the end, "His vehicle, a white van plastered with right-wing slogans, came to resemble a Facebook feed on wheels."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/technology/cesar-sayoc-facebook-twitter.html


    Nick Clegg starts his Facebook job on Monday, iirc.

    A few weeks back I posted an interesting - although possibly flawed - analysis of how right-wingers become increasingly radicalised on-line. I'll see if I can dig it out, as it might be of renewed interest.

    Edit: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/11/memes-infowars-75-fascist-activists-red-pilled/
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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,778

    Cesar Sayoc and his social media activities. At first he posted food photos then descended into a rightwing social media vortex:

    In the end, "His vehicle, a white van plastered with right-wing slogans, came to resemble a Facebook feed on wheels."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/technology/cesar-sayoc-facebook-twitter.html


    Nick Clegg starts his Facebook job on Monday, iirc.

    A few weeks back I posted an interesting - although possibly flawed - analysis of how right-wingers become increasingly radicalised on-line. I'll see if I can dig it out, as it might be of renewed interest.
    Thanks, that would be good.

    There is clearly a major problem and the big social media companies need to start coming up with some answers.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728
    edited October 2018

    Cesar Sayoc and his social media activities. At first he posted food photos then descended into a rightwing social media vortex:

    In the end, "His vehicle, a white van plastered with right-wing slogans, came to resemble a Facebook feed on wheels."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/technology/cesar-sayoc-facebook-twitter.html


    Nick Clegg starts his Facebook job on Monday, iirc.

    A few weeks back I posted an interesting - although possibly flawed - analysis of how right-wingers become increasingly radicalised on-line. I'll see if I can dig it out, as it might be of renewed interest.
    Thanks, that would be good.

    There is clearly a major problem and the big social media companies need to start coming up with some answers.
    TBF I'm unsure they're the major contributors. It'll be mid-sized and smaller sites - 4chan being an example - that'll publish the very bad stuff and really radicalise. YouTube, FB etc may act as gateways: publish something just the 'correct' side of the line, and encourage people to find 'the truth' online elsewhere at darker sites.

    Stopping Alex Jones is a good start, though he'll just reappear elsewhere.

    All IMO.

    Edit: see my earlier edit for the link.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,778

    Cesar Sayoc and his social media activities. At first he posted food photos then descended into a rightwing social media vortex:

    In the end, "His vehicle, a white van plastered with right-wing slogans, came to resemble a Facebook feed on wheels."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/technology/cesar-sayoc-facebook-twitter.html


    Nick Clegg starts his Facebook job on Monday, iirc.

    A few weeks back I posted an interesting - although possibly flawed - analysis of how right-wingers become increasingly radicalised on-line. I'll see if I can dig it out, as it might be of renewed interest.

    Edit: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/11/memes-infowars-75-fascist-activists-red-pilled/
    Thanks. Another good source is the book 'Making sense of alt-right,' George Hawley.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Jonathan said:

    Sorry.

    Or

    From a pig to a country.
    How about, 'Blowing it?'
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469

    notme said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jacob Rees-Mogg confronted by protestors dressed as chickens

    https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1056184836900175874?s=20

    People seem obsessed with chlorinated chicken. Surely it would be (if sold over here) labelled as such and if it impacted the taste, once again it wouldnt sell.

    There's one thing about America, they are fussy about their meat. A weird amalgamation of people with totally different aims, some dont like americans, some dont like anybody eating any kind of meat and some want to sell us the meat without competition from somewhere that manages to grow it for a lower cost.
    We've discussed this before, but you may not have seen it. There is nothing especially worrying about the chlorine. What is worrying is the conditions which the chlorine tries to address - intense stocking densities, to the point that infection is rife, so they address it by heavy doses of antibiotics and chlorine. There isn't any dispute that the welfare of the animals is much worse; there are also health risks and environmental impacts from the overcrowding.

    Which is not to say that all meat from everywhere else is wonderful, of course. But it's systematically worse in some of the US (some companies ae trying to do better, with some success, but the near-absence of relevant federal regulation makes it unreliable).
    Sorry, but pure chlorine, even pure oxygen or nitrogen is dangerous. Which will kill you quicker, if falling on you, a ton of feathers or a ton of lead? Chlorine kills any nasties on the surface of the meat, it does absolutely sod all for those inside - it is just a flummery to make buyers think it is "safe" while the chemical and residual reactions on the surface makes it even more dangerous because the purchasers think its safe. .
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