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  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,112
    Glad to see that the word 'Ye' has yet to be dropped from official government usage ;-)

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/10/revised-royal-charter-channels-charles-is-royal-prerogative/
  • MrJones said:


    Not at all. People who made decisions based on dodgy information they were given in bad faith are perfectly entitled to complain about it until doomsday or the people responsible have been held to account.

    Yes, precisely, especially since anyone born before about 1980 would have found it completely inconceivable that a British Prime Minister would not have been straight with MPs and the public in a formal report and formal statement to parliament on such a grave matter.

    Of course, now, post-Blair, that seems a ridiculous position, but how were we to know that at the time?
    Charles Kennedy wasn't fooled, and he was drunk half the time. What excuse does anyone else have?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:


    Not at all. People who made decisions based on dodgy information they were given in bad faith are perfectly entitled to complain about it until doomsday or the people responsible have been held to account.

    Yes, precisely, especially since anyone born before about 1980 would have found it completely inconceivable that a British Prime Minister would not have been straight with MPs and the public in a formal report and formal statement to parliament on such a grave matter.

    Of course, now, post-Blair, that seems a ridiculous position, but how were we to know that at the time?
    Charles Kennedy wasn't fooled, and he was drunk half the time. What excuse does anyone else have?
    So if a salesman fools you into something you wouldn't mind?
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    When SeanT mentioned being trapped in the Barbican Centre, I realised I didn't know what it looked like. So I looked on Google images. The pictures which came up looked like the interior of an abandoned building in Chernobyl.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709
    edited October 2013

    MrJones said:


    Not at all. People who made decisions based on dodgy information they were given in bad faith are perfectly entitled to complain about it until doomsday or the people responsible have been held to account.

    Yes, precisely, especially since anyone born before about 1980 would have found it completely inconceivable that a British Prime Minister would not have been straight with MPs and the public in a formal report and formal statement to parliament on such a grave matter.
    This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week, and the week includes a Bitcoin user's meeting where there was a bloke from the Mises Institute who thought Japan already had hyper-inflation, but they were concealing it by watering down the orange juice.

    Governments always lie about the reasons and justifications for war.
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916

    MrJones said:


    Not at all. People who made decisions based on dodgy information they were given in bad faith are perfectly entitled to complain about it until doomsday or the people responsible have been held to account.

    Yes, precisely, especially since anyone born before about 1980 would have found it completely inconceivable that a British Prime Minister would not have been straight with MPs and the public in a formal report and formal statement to parliament on such a grave matter.
    This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week, and the week includes a Bitcoin user's meeting where there was a bloke from the Mises Institute who thought Japan already had hyper-inflation, but they were concealing it by watering down the orange juice.

    Governments always lie about the reasons and justifications for war.
    AFAIK, there were not lies about the reasons for WW2, Korea, Malaya, IRAQ!, but never before had there been so many lies and deliberate deception as by Blair and Campbell about IRAQ2.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    HYUFD said:

    Carola, he was actually very good, full of anecdotes from meetings with everyone from Frank Sinatra to Prince Phillip and Prince Charles, Charles De Gaulle, Margaret Thatcher and his old friend Simon Cadell and came on dressed as a jester all in connection with his new book on happiness. Interesting you mention Alan Partridge, because he had a post-interval theme song over the tannoy which he said had been sung by Partridge. I am also hoping to see Alexei Sayle and Dame Edna Everage in the next few weeks, but Gyles was a surprisingly hard act to follow!

    Yes I think he's funny - like listening to him on quiz shows etc. Just ribbing ;)

    If you do go to see Dame Edna, don't turn up late to a seat near the front. We did many years ago and became an oft-returned to theme of the show. Good fun but mortified!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    Carola - Thanks for the tip!
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