The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
I think some European countries, including the UK, will be able to achieve those carbon emission target reductions.
Other very large countries like the USA, China, India and Brazil will not, it’s a much bigger problem for them if economic growth slows, thus I expect it sadly is inevitable.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
Probably the largest factor we could change is the number of people on the planet. Encourage contraception and smaller families and get the population down. Less people consume less resources. Ironically, a shorter term solution is to get more people to live in cities as it is easier to concentrate resources amongst a larger population.
Checks rcs1000 video... Doesn't reducing the population increase the pensioner burden per worker and hence cut into standard of living though ?
On a different note, population levels out once a society is developed enough -
But really, global population is "solved" for europe and the west in general.
Thinking this through, the Chinese might be doing the most globally for forward emission reduction with their efforts to develop parts of Africa (Rwanda, Ethiopia)
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Problem is many people just don't believe it. Despite three centuries of the enlightenment it seems reason, logic and science are still a minority pursuit.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Problem is many people just don't believe it. Despite three centuries of the enlightenment it seems reason, logic and science are still a minority pursuit.
Oh, I think they believe it - eventually. They usually leap from "It's not happening" to "It's too late to do something about it."
Rationalising doing nothing (when doing something might cost you) is easy. Like Sir Humphrey says:
Stage one: say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two: say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three: say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we *can* do.
Stage four: say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
Those that are in denial about Corbyn's anti-Semitism (Nick Palmer ex-MP et al) need to ask why the voter group that best knows what anti-Semitism smells like, i.e. a Jewish one, is deserting the Labour party like never before. When is the parliamentary Labour Party going to live up to his historical principles and remove this loathsome individual from his position?
He sums them up. He is one of their few token business people that they manage to roll out to try and make out that Brexit "will be great", rather than the car-crash the whole business community all know it already is. He is the business equivalent of Neil Hamilton
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
We do not have to reduce our living standards, but we could live less wastefully. TBF, progress towards this has already been made, but we need to progress further.
Probably the largest factor we could change is the number of people on the planet. Encourage contraception and smaller families and get the population down. Less people consume less resources. Ironically, a shorter term solution is to get more people to live in cities as it is easier to concentrate resources amongst a larger population.
Even with the most aggressive population control measures you could not do much to reduce the population by 2050, by which time net emissions must be close to zero.
However, on that timeframe we will replace most of our energy and transport infrastructure and we could choose to replace it with zero carbon alternatives. That would be pretty easy.
Then we only have to work out what to do with concrete production and agriculture.
He sums them up. He is one of their few token business people that they manage to roll out to try and make out that Brexit "will be great", rather than the car-crash the whole business community all know it already is. He is the business equivalent of Neil Hamilton
I hasten to add I mean in an embarrassingly stupid Brexit-gullible way, not in an alleged relationship with people who would like him to ask questions on their behalf sort of way
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Problem is many people just don't believe it. Despite three centuries of the enlightenment it seems reason, logic and science are still a minority pursuit.
They have "had enough of experts". There are too few scientists (and ex-military) MPs and too many lawyers, journalists and ex SPADs. Perhaps there needs to be a new system that requires anyone to vote on any given subject in parliament to have a modicum of understanding. This might encourage the parties to be better represented by people who might have a genuine perspective
The problem I have with these statistics is that they always set par as being the peak before the crash. But the peak before the crash was an unsustainable bubble which is why we crashed.
Yes. How awful it has been to get back to above the peak of an unsustainable boom which had made us as rich as ever we have been in the history of humanity. Obviously capitalism has failed...
I think I may have defamed DD and other Brexiteers as being lazy barstewards when it came to exploring the actualité of frictionless borders and technological solutions. It's quite possible they knew it was bollocks and didn't want to draw attention to the fact.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
Perhaps if we returned to a pre-industrial revolution level of global population we can also return to a pre-industrial revolution level of global CO2 emissions.
The human infestation of the planet is the primary problem.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all.
Those that are in denial about Corbyn's anti-Semitism (Nick Palmer ex-MP et al) need to ask why the voter group that best knows what anti-Semitism smells like, i.e. a Jewish one, is deserting the Labour party like never before. When is the parliamentary Labour Party going to live up to his historical principles and remove this loathsome individual from his position?
If it cements other (bigger) minority groups in the camp, it's working.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Problem is many people just don't believe it. Despite three centuries of the enlightenment it seems reason, logic and science are still a minority pursuit.
They have "had enough of experts". There are too few scientists (and ex-military) MPs and too many lawyers, journalists and ex SPADs. Perhaps there needs to be a new system that requires anyone to vote on any given subject in parliament to have a modicum of understanding. This might encourage the parties to be better represented by people who might have a genuine perspective
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
Perhaps if we returned to a pre-industrial revolution level of global population we can also return to a pre-industrial revolution level of global CO2 emissions.
The human infestation of the planet is the primary problem.
Are you volunteering to reduce it? I believe you are in favour of self-harm through Brexit. Are you now advocating the full monty toward Exit? No, thought not. Well I hope not anyway
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
Perhaps if we returned to a pre-industrial revolution level of global population we can also return to a pre-industrial revolution level of global CO2 emissions.
The human infestation of the planet is the primary problem.
Well then why worry about the planet? The worse possible risk of a mild increase in temperature of s couple of degrees over the next hundred years is our ability to live on it. If we all died out any impact we have had would quickly disappear. The planet is not at risk.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
"I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours."
True. But we are now in the game of seeing if we can limit it sufficiently for it not to be utterly catastrophic.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
Perhaps if we returned to a pre-industrial revolution level of global population we can also return to a pre-industrial revolution level of global CO2 emissions.
The human infestation of the planet is the primary problem.
That easy
we return to pre industrial levels of health care and everyone dies earlier
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
This might seem an opportune time for Scottish Labour to make a fresh start with the voters by talking about the issues that matter to them. That is, after all, why members chose Richard Leonard as leader 11 months ago. He was a break from the leadership class defined by the acrimonious politics of 2014. Leonard, his partisans argued, could take Labour back to its roots.
In that sense, he has proved a sterling success. In its heyday, Scottish Labour was home to so many internecine grudges and bloody vendettas that John Smith House could have doubled as the Corleone family mansion.
Now, the factions and in-fighting are back. Don Leonardo isn’t the most impressive of godfathers — every time he gives a speech, he makes the voters an offer they can’t remember — but this mild-mannered union fixer has done more to undermine unity within Scottish Labour than their political opponents. Leonard should be required to register his leadership as an in-kind donation to the SNP.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Problem is many people just don't believe it. Despite three centuries of the enlightenment it seems reason, logic and science are still a minority pursuit.
They have "had enough of experts". There are too few scientists (and ex-military) MPs and too many lawyers, journalists and ex SPADs. Perhaps there needs to be a new system that requires anyone to vote on any given subject in parliament to have a modicum of understanding. This might encourage the parties to be better represented by people who might have a genuine perspective
At least Thatcher understood the science.
Indeed. I got a nice reply from her once when I wrote complaining about Nicholas Ridley's climate-change denial (as we would know it now). If I remember correctly she said that she too was concerned and the balance of evidence was concerning. That was in about 1986 I think.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
And they really mean it this time, manbearpig really exists. And we most take him seriously. And the fact that climate change now gives us all good reasons to do lots of things we have always wanted to do but have nothing to do with climate change is entirely coincidental. Entirely I tell you.
I think I may have defamed DD and other Brexiteers as being lazy barstewards when it came to exploring the actualité of frictionless borders and technological solutions. It's quite possible they knew it was bollocks and didn't want to draw attention to the fact.
You could get that queue at any border when there’s a problem. Operation stack existed long time before Brexit. It’s a sign of disruption I would guess. If that is a semi permanent feature of the border someone ,isn’t have made the calculation as to whether or not it was better to have a better resourced processing system or a delay in customs in terms of the economy.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
And they really mean it this time, manbearpig really exists. And we most take him seriously. And the fact that climate change now gives us all good reasons to do lots of things we have always wanted to do but have nothing to do with climate change is entirely coincidental. Entirely I tell you.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
It’s precisely that sort of crap that drives political opposition to environmental measures from the Right, and makes climate change inevitable.
What is it they really want:
(1) To mitigate the warming of the earth’s climate by any and all measures as quickly as possible? Or.. (2) To sock it to the political Right, and feel good about themselves?
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
And they really mean it this time, manbearpig really exists. And we most take him seriously. And the fact that climate change now gives us all good reasons to do lots of things we have always wanted to do but have nothing to do with climate change is entirely coincidental. Entirely I tell you.
Please translate your gibberish?
Manbearpig is a character from SouthPark. And I trust people who use the claims of climate change as cover to carry out policies that have failed at the ballot box about as far as I can throw snake oil salesmen.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
And they really mean it this time, manbearpig really exists. And we most take him seriously. And the fact that climate change now gives us all good reasons to do lots of things we have always wanted to do but have nothing to do with climate change is entirely coincidental. Entirely I tell you.
Please translate your gibberish?
Roughly that the capture of the UN climate change panel by proponents of left wing economic and social views is not conducive to building cross party support for an appropriate response to the changing climate
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
It’s precisely that sort of crap that drives political opposition to environmental measures from the Right, and makes climate change inevitable.
What is it they really want:
(1) To mitigate the warming of the earth’s climate by any and all measures as quickly as possible? Or.. (2) To sock it to the political Right, and feel good about themselves?
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
Oh, there's certainly blame to spread around. The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
I don't think that right and even if it were most journeys that people, and particularly the retired, make fit within the range of an EV. The I need a SUV/BMW/etc etc line remains strong even when objectively unnecessary.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
Agree completely, Having lived in London for a significant part of my life and now don't public transport provision is extremely limited outside the the main metropolitan areas. For many virtually the only way to get to work is by car. Where I live even those who commute into London need the car to get to the station.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
I don't think that right and even if it were most journeys that people, and particularly the retired, make fit within the range of an EV. The I need a SUV/BMW/etc etc line remains strong even when objectively unnecessary.
I have a car because I find it useful to have one.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
Oh, there's certainly blame to spread around. The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
Oh, there's certainly blame to spread around. The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
You missed out India. China, whatever else it might be, is well provided with a lot of smart people. That they should be investing heavily in renewables (both generating capacity and the manufacturing associated with it) is not exactly surprising. If we are really lucky, much of industrialising Africa will largely skip the fossil fuelled growth phase.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
I don't think that right and even if it were most journeys that people, and particularly the retired, make fit within the range of an EV. The I need a SUV/BMW/etc etc line remains strong even when objectively unnecessary.
If only you were dictator life would be so much simpler.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
Agree completely, Having lived in London for a significant part of my life and now don't public transport provision is extremely limited outside the the main metropolitan areas. For many virtually the only way to get to work is by car. Where I live even those who commute into London need the car to get to the station.
I’d be happy to buy an electric car, but how much would I have to pay for one. The up-front price isn’t competitive.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
My wife and I have reduced mobility and we rely on the car to get into town, drive 25 mile round trip on occassions to do the school run when our daughter is tied up, use it to enjoy the joys of Snowdonia and North Wales. Collect my son in 2 weeks from Heathrow when he flys in from Canada to visit us, drive to the North of Scotland (900 mile round trip) twice a year to visit our family, and I could go on.
I have worked hard all my life as has my wife. Times were hard when we first married and if we could not afford something we did not buy it. I ran a successful business providing secure employment for 15 and retired at 65.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
Is that why Corbyn is in favour of Brexit?
He supports it because even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
I don't think that right and even if it were most journeys that people, and particularly the retired, make fit within the range of an EV. The I need a SUV/BMW/etc etc line remains strong even when objectively unnecessary.
If only you were dictator life would be so much simpler.
If we all only had "what we need" that would indeed curb economic growth and would cause the collapse of living standards and probably cause civil unrest. It might stop climate change, but it is not something I will be voting for!!!. Unless of course Mr Matt is actually saying that only the elderly should be denied choice or luxury. It will be an interesting prospectus to put to the electorate
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
Is that why Corbyn is in favour of Brexit?
He supports it because even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That makes him right 730 times a year (732 every fourth year).
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
Oh, there's certainly blame to spread around. The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
What an awesome graphic. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. Not my graphic, but that of the late David MacKay, who wrote a superb (and free) book on the entire subject here: https://www.withouthotair.com/
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
Is that why Corbyn is in favour of Brexit?
He supports it because even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
A witty and amusing maxim. However I think Corbyn generally prefers to be on the side of the intellectually vacuous on all matters because he is a contrarian. For that reason it would not surprise me if he doesn't share the views of his brother Piers on climate change. Corbyn is someone else who has had enough of experts. After all, he is expert in nothing other than being a complete twat.
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
Climate change cannot be halted. Economic growth offers the best opportunity to cope with its effects.
Progress is never achieved by halting economic progress.
We need to engineer scientific solutions to climate change, not reduce our living standards.
We do not have to reduce our living standards, but we could live less wastefully. TBF, progress towards this has already been made, but we need to progress further.
Probably the largest factor we could change is the number of people on the planet. Encourage contraception and smaller families and get the population down. Less people consume less resources. Ironically, a shorter term solution is to get more people to live in cities as it is easier to concentrate resources amongst a larger population.
Even with the most aggressive population control measures you could not do much to reduce the population by 2050, by which time net emissions must be close to zero.
However, on that timeframe we will replace most of our energy and transport infrastructure and we could choose to replace it with zero carbon alternatives. That would be pretty easy.
Then we only have to work out what to do with concrete production and agriculture.
I am well aware that population reduction is a very long term goal unless we breed several Mao or Stalin types...
I’d be happy to buy an electric car, but how much would I have to pay for one. The up-front price isn’t competitive.
At some point every car will be electric, but we're not there yet.
I agree with you and look forward to that day; however at the moment as someone who lives in rural(ish) area I can only manage without my own transport by making very significant changes to my life and activities. For example, looking at this week I could, with considerable difficulty manage this afternoon’s social activity on the bus, but it would mean a 15 minute walk at the other end once off the bus and that presents problems. Minor, but problems. I have to go to a neighbouring town tomorrow; to do so by public transport would mean around an hour each way as against a 15 minute drive. And so it goes on. Wednesday evening’s activity would, with my own transport be quite impracticable. A cheap electric car would be great. I know the fuel for my present transport is expensive, but I can’t, I think, afford the upfront cost of an electric vehicle.
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
Ageism is the last bastion of prejudice. It is a very interesting one though, because it is one of the few "isms" that generally gets less intense as the prejudiced individual gets older
This election is interesting because Cruz is so manifestly odious but it is not currently even the closest. There are several incredibly close races. The latest poll in Missouri made it a tie and the republican is an average of 0.5% ahead. Florida is very close too. If the democratic wave is losing momentum several races where they have tiny edges may start to swing against them.
IMHO, Nevada and Arizona are the only Republican seats where the Democrats have realistic prospects.
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
If other advanced economies were to decarbonise at the the same rate that the UK has managed over the past seven years or so (whilst still growing its economy), we'd peak below 2 degrees of warming and start to settle back down again.
1. Can they? 2. Will they?
1 - Yes 2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US. The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
Is the US the only villain of the piece?
I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
Oh, there's certainly blame to spread around. The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
The author of the report said on radio 4 we needed “an immediate redistribution of financial resources” to prevent climate disaster
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
The problem is that climate change is often used by the left as an excuse to advance leftish solutions. Many people on the right that are normally non-scientists make the classic mistake of opening their mouths and looking more stupid than if they had left them shut. It is therefore a double win for the lefties, more is the pity. The scientific balance of probability is that man-made climate change is real. Denying that evidence is just plain stupid.
And used by some to advance mad solutions, like halving the population, or ending economic growth.
Is that why Corbyn is in favour of Brexit?
He supports it because even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That makes him right 730 times a year (732 every fourth year).
Not a bad ratio for any politician.
But the amount of time a stoped clock is correct is so infinitesimally small that for all intents and purposes it is never right.
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
That is a very good post Beverley.
In truth some may even think that way sadly
Some people think the weirdest things Mr G, thus Brexit
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
That is a very good post Beverley.
In truth some may even think that way sadly
Some people think the weirdest things Mr G, thus Brexit
I have no interest in winning the book, so I will safely predict either
31.4159
or
27.1828
If one of those is the winner then my entry is the other one.
That is not the attitude at all.
A few years ago I won a competition on here, to my surprise. And got a book delivered to my work address where it sat on my shelf and caused quite a few comments. People thought I was either even stranger than they assumed and/or scarier (all those statistics) or a genius of some kind. (TBF I think the person who made that last remark was being deeply sarcastic.)
Anyway it gave me some sort of kudos and if you win I dare say a book like this will come in handy in some unspecified way. You could always raffle it back to PB after all!
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I have just seen your post. Are you real or do you live in London
If you do not stop making controversial posts like this Mr G, the workhouse nurse might take your internet access away. The decrepit elderly are only supposed to read the church magazine whilst mashing their gums together in protest at the Vicar's mishandling of the tea fund.
Ageism is the last bastion of prejudice. It is a very interesting one though, because it is one of the few "isms" that generally gets less intense as the prejudiced individual gets older
On that basis, I wonder how society would turn out if humans were like Swordtail fish?
The climate change report today warning of serious issues if the world does not reduce emissions to me is impossible to achieve when you look at how disfunctional the world is. Trump and Putin have no intention of doing anything, China may want to but in truth will not, and in such an angry and divisive political class I fear little will change.
I heard an activist on the radio saying everyone should immediately install solar panels and insulation and go to their car dealer this weekend and buy an electric car. Really.
I doubt that mankind will be able to prevent climate change despite many peoples best endeavours.
It is not to say I do not support sensible measures and have indeed installed solar panels (very successful) and insulation and have a low emission BMW.
I feel the same: we have solar panels providing hot water and electricity, tonnes of insulation, a renewable heat source boiler, do loads of composting, recycle as much as possible etc and will be soon growing our own vegetables. But an electric car remains a no-no until the range gets longer and there are sufficient and fast charge points in Cumbria, where living without a car is impossible.
We are very similar but at my age 75 I have a low emission diesel BMW that I have no intention of swopping for electric car at anytime soon
Perhaps you should be asking yourself the question why you have a car at all. The entitlement culture is strong in the elderly.
I suspect the clue might be in the “NorthWales” part of Big_G’s username. In the UK only London has good enough public transport to make owning a car completely unnecessary for day-to-day life. Even in the other metropolitan areas public transport is only at that level during commuting and working hours on weekdays.
I don't think that right and even if it were most journeys that people, and particularly the retired, make fit within the range of an EV. The I need a SUV/BMW/etc etc line remains strong even when objectively unnecessary.
But you didn't say anything about BMWs. You accused Big_G of being entitled simply because he "[has] a car at all". Clearly you are a Londoner.
Just to update on my graphic earlier - that was the state of play as of about nine years ago. The UK has reduced emissions to such an extent that the height of our bar is now only about that of Iran's in that figure. I don't have ready information on the others, I'm afraid.
I have no interest in winning the book, so I will safely predict either
31.4159
or
27.1828
If one of those is the winner then my entry is the other one.
That is not the attitude at all.
A few years ago I won a competition on here, to my surprise. And got a book delivered to my work address where it sat on my shelf and caused quite a few comments. People thought I was either even stranger than they assumed and/or scarier (all those statistics) or a genius of some kind. (TBF I think the person who made that last remark was being deeply sarcastic.)
Anyway it gave me some sort of kudos and if you win I dare say a book like this will come in handy in some unspecified way. You could always raffle it back to PB after all!
Delivering to my current address might be tricky....
Those that are in denial about Corbyn's anti-Semitism (Nick Palmer ex-MP et al) need to ask why the voter group that best knows what anti-Semitism smells like, i.e. a Jewish one, is deserting the Labour party like never before. When is the parliamentary Labour Party going to live up to his historical principles and remove this loathsome individual from his position?
Those who support Labour have calculated that he is likely to win them power with policies they like and if the price of that is turning a blind eye to anti-semitism or pretending it doesn't exist or has been exaggerated or is being used by shadowy groups for political purposes then that is a small price and one they are willing to pay.
Principles? Pah! What do they matter? Power is the only thing that matters. The only surprise here is why anyone should think that the Left does not understand this basic rule of politics. Principles are for wimps and for those deluded enough to think that what a person says matters more than what they do or don't do.
[Sarcasm alert, in case anyone was wondering if I'd been too influenced by one Wm M Thackeray]
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40.38%
Other very large countries like the USA, China, India and Brazil will not, it’s a much bigger problem for them if economic growth slows, thus I expect it sadly is inevitable.
Sauce: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/081315/3-reasons-why-chinese-invest-africa.asp
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https://twitter.com/andrewf_barclay/status/1049254362596433925
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/party-preferences-british-jews/
2. Will they?
2 - Probably not (the US especially). It's too easy to just say it's impossible, ignore whether or how others have done it, and rationalise whatever's most convenient. Again, I'm looking at the US.
The US should consider that when China is decarbonising far faster than you, it ain't them. It's you.
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To reap the reward of any possible #pollingfail
Rationalising doing nothing (when doing something might cost you) is easy. Like Sir Humphrey says:
Stage one: say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two: say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three: say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we *can* do.
Stage four: say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
Good afternoon. my entry is:
40.86%
https://twitter.com/twlldun/status/1049261900767416320
However, on that timeframe we will replace most of our energy and transport infrastructure and we could choose to replace it with zero carbon alternatives. That would be pretty easy.
Then we only have to work out what to do with concrete production and agriculture.
https://twitter.com/severincarrell/status/1049251517394554883
Meanwhile, over at the Swiss border:
https://twitter.com/donnyc1975/status/1049217781030428672
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I appreciate it’s a big villain but not the only one.
The human infestation of the planet is the primary problem.
True. But we are now in the game of seeing if we can limit it sufficiently for it not to be utterly catastrophic.
we return to pre industrial levels of health care and everyone dies earlier
And they get upset when people call them watermelons
In that sense, he has proved a sterling success. In its heyday, Scottish Labour was home to so many internecine grudges and bloody vendettas that John Smith House could have doubled as the Corleone family mansion.
Now, the factions and in-fighting are back. Don Leonardo isn’t the most impressive of godfathers — every time he gives a speech, he makes the voters an offer they can’t remember — but this mild-mannered union fixer has done more to undermine unity within Scottish Labour than their political opponents. Leonard should be required to register his leadership as an in-kind donation to the SNP.
https://stephendaisley.com/2018/10/08/richard-leonard-is-turning-scottish-labour-into-corbynism-with-a-kilt/
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What is it they really want:
(1) To mitigate the warming of the earth’s climate by any and all measures as quickly as possible? Or..
(2) To sock it to the political Right, and feel good about themselves?
Note: they can’t have both.
The shock, to me, was that China is one of the fastest at decarbonising - I'd always seen them as very much in the other direction.
I think Turkey's possibly a standout in the not-decarbonising quickly (or even at all) department, but the biggest influencers are shown by the areas in the blocks here:
So the US and China, first and foremost, have the most influence on carbon emissions. India, Russia, Germany, and the UK probably make up the second echelon. Most other countries are small fry in comparison.
China are indeed decarbonising quickly, as are we. The US (of the first rank), Russia, Germany, Japan, and India (of the second rank), not so much.
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1049272166888497154
China, whatever else it might be, is well provided with a lot of smart people. That they should be investing heavily in renewables (both generating capacity and the manufacturing associated with it) is not exactly surprising.
If we are really lucky, much of industrialising Africa will largely skip the fossil fuelled growth phase.
https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1049277355494178816
My wife and I have reduced mobility and we rely on the car to get into town, drive 25 mile round trip on occassions to do the school run when our daughter is tied up, use it to enjoy the joys of Snowdonia and North Wales. Collect my son in 2 weeks from Heathrow when he flys in from Canada to visit us, drive to the North of Scotland (900 mile round trip) twice a year to visit our family, and I could go on.
I have worked hard all my life as has my wife. Times were hard when we first married and if we could not afford something we did not buy it. I ran a successful business providing secure employment for 15 and retired at 65.
So what on earth does entitled mean.
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38.68
Not a bad ratio for any politician.
31.4159
or
27.1828
If one of those is the winner then my entry is the other one.
40.01
A cheap electric car would be great. I know the fuel for my present transport is expensive, but I can’t, I think, afford the upfront cost of an electric vehicle.
In truth some may even think that way sadly
A few years ago I won a competition on here, to my surprise. And got a book delivered to my work address where it sat on my shelf and caused quite a few comments. People thought I was either even stranger than they assumed and/or scarier (all those statistics) or a genius of some kind. (TBF I think the person who made that last remark was being deeply sarcastic.)
Anyway it gave me some sort of kudos and if you win I dare say a book like this will come in handy in some unspecified way. You could always raffle it back to PB after all!
The UK has reduced emissions to such an extent that the height of our bar is now only about that of Iran's in that figure.
I don't have ready information on the others, I'm afraid.
My entry is 35.986 %.
Those who support Labour have calculated that he is likely to win them power with policies they like and if the price of that is turning a blind eye to anti-semitism or pretending it doesn't exist or has been exaggerated or is being used by shadowy groups for political purposes then that is a small price and one they are willing to pay.
Principles? Pah! What do they matter? Power is the only thing that matters. The only surprise here is why anyone should think that the Left does not understand this basic rule of politics. Principles are for wimps and for those deluded enough to think that what a person says matters more than what they do or don't do.
[Sarcasm alert, in case anyone was wondering if I'd been too influenced by one Wm M Thackeray]