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Royston on Barnsley (Lab Defence)
Last Election (2012): Lab 52, Ind 6, Con 5 (Lab overall majority of 41)
Last Election Results in electoral cycle:
2010: Lab 2,175 (46%), Lib Dem 1,078 (23%), Con 628 (13%), BNP 564 (12%), Barnsley Independents 274 (6%)
2011: Lab 1,570 (59%), UKIP 450 (17%), Con 244 (9%), Lib Dem 148 (6%), Socialist Labour Party 114 (4%), BNP 113 (4%)
2012:

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  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Andrew Marr wishes he had gone to art school instead of becoming a journalist:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/bbcs-andrew-marr-says-i-regret-going-into-journalism-8871501.html
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Apologies if this has been posted before.

    French polls show surge in support for far-right National Front

    Quarter of French voters polled said they would vote for party at 2014 European elections, with 19% for Socialists

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/10/french-polls-surge-support-national-front
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,061
    Thanks, Mr. Hayfield.

    Mr. Eagles, quelle surprise.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TheScreamingEagles said:



    French polls show surge in support for far-right National Front

    Should keep the Daily Mail happy.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Neil said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:



    French polls show surge in support for far-right National Front

    Should keep the Daily Mail happy.
    Norty Neil.

    I'm not for one moment comparing UKIP to the Front National (though Dave probably would)

    But would be quite a shock for two of Europe's larger countries to see Eurosceptic/EU withdrawal parties winning the Euros.
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    I'm quite interested to see how the Pirate Party does in Manchestoh
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited October 2013
    8 northern and Scottish seats. It will be interesting to see how UKIP does tonight in these less favourable seats. If UKIP get more than 4% in any Scottish seat it would make my day.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    FPT
    Carola said:

    @sunil

    One for you (if it works, meh...)

    London underground pic.twitter.com/NG6FnBSpaK

    Very nice pix, thanks!
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TheScreamingEagles said:


    Norty Neil.

    They printed an article saying Le Pen was the "only responsible vote" last year!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2132611/French-elections-2012-Marine-Le-Pen-responsible-vote-France.html
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JohnRentoul: Given a choice, 38% preferred Lab energy price freeze, 52% Tory cheapest poss tariff plan: Survation poll http://t.co/Vdr0bGUbPS
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    @Neil

    Ah Richard Waghorne, he's the gayer against gay marriage
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    edited October 2013
    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    AndyJS said:

    Andrew Marr wishes he had gone to art school instead of becoming a journalist:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/bbcs-andrew-marr-says-i-regret-going-into-journalism-8871501.html

    I agree with Marr for once.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Neil

    Ah Richard Waghorne, he's the gayer against gay marriage

    Only because he knows noone would marry him.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Neil said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Neil

    Ah Richard Waghorne, he's the gayer against gay marriage

    Only because he knows noone would marry him.

    Ouch.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    edited October 2013
    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,112
    The local election picture has changed!!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    RobD said:

    The local election picture has changed!!!

    It's a tribute to Norman Tebbit
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,061
    Has it? The picture seems the same as before to me.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Evening Comrade, the day of dawning for the PB Hodges is not far away. I am storing the popcorn for the bloodletting viewing. Who do you think will be attacked more Dave or Gideon?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. Things fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Which makes a change from the last govt.

    WMD launchable within 45 mins - bunch of lying barstewards.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Has it? The picture seems the same as before to me.

    Yes, normally we go for this picture

    http://politicalbetting.s3.amazonaws.com/Generics/polling+poster+windy.JPG
  • SouthCoastKevinSouthCoastKevin Posts: 158
    RedRag1 said:

    This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle... [T]here are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer... What do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well?

    Wow, who's been talking about a booming economy or even just saying the economy's going well? Rather premature, ISTM...
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    RedRag1 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Evening Comrade, the day of dawning for the PB Hodges is not far away. I am storing the popcorn for the bloodletting viewing. Who do you think will be attacked more Dave or Gideon?
    Is it 2 for 1 on Kleenex on planet 28 % tonight ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    RedRag1 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Evening Comrade, the day of dawning for the PB Hodges is not far away. I am storing the popcorn for the bloodletting viewing. Who do you think will be attacked more Dave or Gideon?
    You are Sion Simon and I claim my etc.

    'Shortly there will be an election, in which Labour will increase its majority'

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,061
    Ah, Mr. Eagles, I saw the cycling photo when I first clicked on this thread.

    Mr. Rag, if working makes people poorer that suggests the benefits system is significantly over-generous or that taxes are too high.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TGOHF said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. Things fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Which makes a change from the last govt.

    WMD launchable within 45 mins - bunch of lying barstewards.
    Your reasoning for using Comical Comradely Ali's picture?
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Ah, Mr. Eagles, I saw the cycling photo when I first clicked on this thread.

    Mr. Rag, if working makes people poorer that suggests the benefits system is significantly over-generous or that taxes are too high.

    Don't worry we have the Red Cross handing out food parcels now to the country of the booming economy. Dave, 42% at the next election.....nailed on!
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Sunil_Prasannan said:


    TGOHF said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. Things fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Which makes a change from the last govt.

    WMD launchable within 45 mins - bunch of lying barstewards.
    Your reasoning for using Comical Comradely Ali's picture?
    I prefered the Terry Thomas one too.
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    edited October 2013
    tim said:

    Oh no, the communist land grab is most popular of all.

    Land Banking?

    Ed Miliband’s “use it or lose it” plan to take land away from property developers that don’t use it is proving popular with the public – 57% said they backed such a plan as a means of constructing more homes.

    - See more at: http://survation.com/2013/10/the-cost-of-living-battle-a-sceptical-public-back-headline-tory-policy-on-energy-labour-on-landbanking/#sthash.fyqKUEdD.dpuf

    "backed such a plan as a means of constructing more homes"

    And when it backfires and developers say they won't invest in this country any more, how popular do you think Ed will be then?

    Typical short-termist bonkers idea from the red team.

    I think I preferred it when it was just a blank sheet of paper.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TGOHF said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:


    TGOHF said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TGOHF said:

    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. Things fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And the party that got 28% in England last time ride back to power on a national wave of fervour for hard left politics. Yes any day now.
    "There are no Labour tanks in Baghdad!"
    Which makes a change from the last govt.

    WMD launchable within 45 mins - bunch of lying barstewards.
    Your reasoning for using Comical Comradely Ali's picture?
    I prefered the Terry Thomas one too.
    What is your reasoning for using Comical Comradely Ali's picture?
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    RedRag1 said:

    As I stated the other night the tipping point is not far away when Tory supporters will realise they are not going to win the election. This fabled booming economy makes me chuckle. No matter what the coalition say and The Heil repeatedly prints day after day telling us how great it is there are millions upon millions of people who work out there who are getting poorer. They see the utility bills going up, the cost of their weekly shopping going up, petrol going up etc etc but they are lucky to get a wage rise and few and far see one at 2%. When they see inflation is at 3%......what do you think they think when some multi-millionaire comes on the tv to tell them the economy is going well......Going well for who?...... maybe?

    And if you win. And you have told everyone there are easy options to the complex problems we face, when no one is getting ritcher, despite you telling them they will be. How's that going to work out?

    Sadly, and we all wish it wasn't the case, there isn't always an easy way. Many Tories wish that your party had had to clean up your own mess after the last election. Thank God however you didn't have the chance to make thing even worse. Labour - trully the party with no shame.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government
    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s
    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers
    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    Always a pleasant surprise to be reminded that it's still being printed.

    We'll miss it when someone points out it's gone.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    Wonder if The Heil will start attacking the Red Cross and accuse them of being a part of the Marxist conspiracy? It is Red after all.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
    Dave will NEVER win a majority against Super Ed (he didn't even manage one against Gurning Gordon!).
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    Wonder if The Heil will start attacking the Red Cross and accuse them of being a part of the Marxist conspiracy? It is Red after all.
    Why do you think the editor of the Daily Mail was so close to Gordon Brown?

    He particularly pointed to the close relations between Mr Dacre and former prime minister Gordon Brown. "Paul Dacre was a guest at many of the most intimate family occasions Gordon Brown had," he said.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24366980
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    Scott_P said:

    @JohnRentoul: Given a choice, 38% preferred Lab energy price freeze, 52% Tory cheapest poss tariff plan: Survation poll http://t.co/Vdr0bGUbPS

    So is Cameron going to make sure everyone is on the lowest tariff? Isn't this something he promised some time ago and hasn't done anything about?
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
    Mr Eagles, not ignoring it, just pointing out that Labour percentage has now stopped falling. What majority do you think Dave will get with Labour on 38%?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
    Dave will NEVER win a majority against Super Ed (he didn't even manage one against Gurning Gordon!).
    And yet Dave somehow became PM.

    I think you're misunderestimating Ed Miliband.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    RedRag1 said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Ah, Mr. Eagles, I saw the cycling photo when I first clicked on this thread.

    Mr. Rag, if working makes people poorer that suggests the benefits system is significantly over-generous or that taxes are too high.

    Don't worry we have the Red Cross handing out food parcels now to the country of the booming economy. Dave, 42% at the next election.....nailed on!
    I'd have thought the Red Cross could rather better spend its limited resources on populations suffering from. real need and hunger.
    This kind of wasteful political stunt damages the reputation of a once noble organisation.Whoever is behind this nonsense should be sacked.

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    tim said:

    At last we get to find out what The Big Society meant

    @politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent front page: Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry http://t.co/Y3LQxswqdo

    And we all thought it would be Dave and Sam handing out homemade chutney

    Wonder if that will get mentioned in The Heil? Red Cross, Red Ed, Reds in the Bed, Little Red Riding Hood.....all part of the Marxist conspiracy.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    edited October 2013
    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
    Mr Eagles, not ignoring it, just pointing out that Labour percentage has now stopped falling. What majority do you think Dave will get with Labour on 38%?
    I've long said Dave won't win a majority in 2015.

    Edit: Barring The Scots voting for Independence in 2014.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Afriyie on QT. (When ever I say/type his name I want to keep going... Afriyieiyieiyieiyie. Dunno why).
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Carola said:

    Afriyie on QT.

    And who will they have representing the Conservative party?
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    tim said:

    Someone please tell the Mail it's the Red Crescent

    "Red Crescent deliver parcel bombs disguised as food parcels in an attempt to bring down Dave"?
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    tim said:

    At last we get to find out what The Big Society meant

    @politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent front page: Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry http://t.co/Y3LQxswqdo

    And we all thought it would be Dave and Sam handing out homemade chutney

    Amazing to think that we aren't all rolling in it after the party you shill, mindlessly, for day after day left such a golden legacy. Still, all the poison porpoises fault I'm sure!

    Out of interest have you found that quote from me yet Tim? Or are you just a dishonest liar?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    edited October 2013
    Carola said:

    Afriyie on QT. (When ever I say/type his name I want to keep going... Afriyieiyieiyieiyie. Dunno why).

    I'm sure on one of Leftfield's songs (afro I think), you can hear Afriyieiyieiyieiyie.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Neil said:

    Carola said:

    Afriyie on QT.

    And who will they have representing the Conservative party?
    Whaaaaat? A TORY? ON THE BBC??? No way.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    MonikerDiCanio said:

    RedRag1 said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Ah, Mr. Eagles, I saw the cycling photo when I first clicked on this thread.

    Mr. Rag, if working makes people poorer that suggests the benefits system is significantly over-generous or that taxes are too high.

    Don't worry we have the Red Cross handing out food parcels now to the country of the booming economy. Dave, 42% at the next election.....nailed on!
    I'd have thought the Red Cross could rather better spend its limited resources on populations suffering from. real need and hunger.
    This kind of wasteful political stunt damages the reputation of a once noble organisation.Whoever is behind this nonsense should be sacked.

    Now you should work for The Heil, that was brilliant.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Max_Edinburgh said:


    Out of interest have you found that quote from me yet Tim? Or are you just a dishonest liar?

    How dare you!

    tim's an honest liar!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    Neil said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:


    Out of interest have you found that quote from me yet Tim? Or are you just a dishonest liar?

    How dare you!

    tim's an honest liar!
    "I always lie. In fact, I am lying to you now!"
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Wonder if the Red Cross will be distributing their parcels through the increasing number of foodbanks in the country of the booming economy....http://www.trusselltrust.org/stats
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Senior Conservative ministers are attempting to cut the amount of money energy firms have to spend helping their poorest customers reduce the cost of their bills, The Independent understands.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    MonikerDiCanio said:

    RedRag1 said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Ah, Mr. Eagles, I saw the cycling photo when I first clicked on this thread.

    Mr. Rag, if working makes people poorer that suggests the benefits system is significantly over-generous or that taxes are too high.

    Don't worry we have the Red Cross handing out food parcels now to the country of the booming economy. Dave, 42% at the next election.....nailed on!
    I'd have thought the Red Cross could rather better spend its limited resources on populations suffering from. real need and hunger.
    This kind of wasteful political stunt damages the reputation of a once noble organisation.Whoever is behind this nonsense should be sacked.
    When "charities" pull political stunts like this they simply lose my support. Usually permanently. I doubt I'm the only person who actively dislikes this sort of partisan nonsense. Plenty of genuine charities out there instead who can have my time, skills or money.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RedRag1 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The front page of the Indy won't make for pleasant reading for the government

    Sky News ‏@SkyNews 45s

    INDEPENDENT FRONT PAGE: "Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK's hungry" #skypapers

    pic.twitter.com/b9OY2iXQhx

    No....no....ignore all that propaganda....the economy is booming, just look at the polls. The coalition parties are riding high off the back of it....err
    So what do you explain for the general trend of Labour's lead shrinking since the start of the year?
    Looks like Labours percentage stopped falling about April......what do you think?


    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
    Still not answered the question have you, by approx figures show that Lab's share of the vote has fallen about 4% this year, and the Tories are up 3% over the year.

    But fine, if you want to ignore that, and the reasons behind it.
    Dave will NEVER win a majority against Super Ed (he didn't even manage one against Gurning Gordon!).
    And yet Dave somehow became PM.

    I think you're misunderestimating Ed Miliband.
    Super Ed will outpoll Dave.

    And Ed, you mark my words, will not only save the Labour Party, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the UK. Thank you very much.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,729
    R5L: Pienaar referring to 2 polls.

    No voting figures given.

    Says people prefer Cameron's energy price policy to Miliband's by 60:40.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Surely The Trussell Trust is now on par with The Red Cross in the Marxist campaigning stakes for stating the number of people who use foodbanks has gone up 170% in the last 12 months. It's political stunts like releasing this information that put people off helping them.
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    Neil said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:


    Out of interest have you found that quote from me yet Tim? Or are you just a dishonest liar?

    How dare you!

    tim's an honest liar!
    Fair play Neil, I should feel ashamed! I blame it on the delicious drop of red I'm currently enjoying!
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Mail fp reporting no full driving licence until 19. And what's a 'tramp stamp'? *innocent face*
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Max_Edinburgh said:

    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!

    Mark Senior is predicting a Lib Dem hold in that seat. As you actually live there, what is your view?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Carola said:

    Mail fp reporting no full driving licence until 19. And what's a 'tramp stamp'? *innocent face*

    A tramp stamp is a tattoo a woman has on or around her coccyx
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Just remembered a wholly unsuitable joke for PB involving tramp stamps.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    I see Sion's been on the socialist baby-champers a bit too much tonight....

    Off to spend the family Royal Mail windfall.... couple of buttons and some new paperclips for the office should do it.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    RedRag1 said:

    Surely The Trussell Trust is now on par with The Red Cross in the Marxist campaigning stakes for stating the number of people who use foodbanks has gone up 170% in the last 12 months. It's political stunts like releasing this information that put people off helping them.

    Indeed. Wouldn't lift a finger to help either of them. If they want to campaign and lobby government, let them do it with taxpayers' cash the way the other fake charities do.

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    edited October 2013
    GeoffM said:

    RedRag1 said:

    Surely The Trussell Trust is now on par with The Red Cross in the Marxist campaigning stakes for stating the number of people who use foodbanks has gone up 170% in the last 12 months. It's political stunts like releasing this information that put people off helping them.

    Indeed. Wouldn't lift a finger to help either of them. If they want to campaign and lobby government, let them do it with taxpayers' cash the way the other fake charities do.

    You tell em Geoff, stuff the Red Cross, stuff The Trussell Trust and stuff the poor. We need a Purge Night to get the undesirables off our streets.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:

    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!

    Mark Senior is predicting a Lib Dem hold in that seat. As you actually live there, what is your view?

    Stuart! How are you? Long time no hear. To be absolutely honest I've been away from it too much to make a definitive call It's probably one of the LD's strongest seats in Scotland now but it's the sort of place where the individual candidate can make a big difference. I wouldn't read too much into it either way, it's like elections in much of rural Scotland - local usually triumphs over national!
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    'Carmichael: Don’t lecture Scots on independence'
    The newly installed Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has warned Westminster politicians not to treat campaign visits to Scotland as a “lecture tour” during the independence referendum.

    Mr Carmichael also claimed it was “eminently possible” that Scotland would back independence in next year’s referendum as he talked about the “dangers” of assuming there would be a No vote.
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/carmichael-don-t-lecture-scots-on-independence-1-3135970
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator

    You seem to have accidentally linked to an article by Martin Wolf rather than a post from Avery with yellow boxes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

    Help To Buy = giant Ponzi Scheme!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    Neil said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator

    You seem to have accidentally linked to an article by Martin Wolf rather than a post from Avery with yellow boxes.
    If I were a dog, I'd be dry humping that post of yours, as I liked it, a lot.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

    Warning: incorrect URL. This is supposed to link the "UK's premier economic commentator" but FrankBooth has accidentally linked to Martin Wolf instead.

  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    edited October 2013
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

    Help To Buy = giant Ponzi Scheme!
    Hope To Buy....votes at the next election.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:

    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!

    Mark Senior is predicting a Lib Dem hold in that seat. As you actually live there, what is your view?

    Nope , I am predicting a Lib Dem gain in Tweedale as it is a Conservative defence ,
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    I noticed an earlier article on pb suggested the Tory plan was to hope Labour might get only 31% of the vote at the next election and this was the Tories' best hope of a majority because they can't get 40%. I'd say they have 3 chances of a majority. They need a big change in the next 18 months, but they've managed this before in '83, '87 and '92.

    Option 1- '83. Hope somebody declares war on the UK. To be fair to Cameron there's evidence that he's at his best when his back is really to the wall. Perhaps a major crisis would suffice, but essentially we're looking at a Falklands moment. Unlikely to happen but can't be ruled out.

    Option 2 - '87. This one involves creating an economic bubble particularly in housing and selling some state assests on the cheap hoping people won't notice they are being bribed with their own money. This looks to be the one they are following.

    Option 3 - '92. This one involves getting rid of the PM and replacing him with someone a bit different. It could work but I doubt they'll try it. And frankly even if they did would the Tories find someone more electable than Cameron?
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Daily Express FP "Millions face eat or heat dilemma"...these Marxists are getting everywhere.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,260
    I've gone all Finbarr Saunders, two of the candidates in the Tweeddale West on the Scottish Borders by election have the surnames, Cockburn and Cox.

    Fnarr, Fnarr
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    RedRag1 said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

    Help To Buy = giant Ponzi Scheme!
    Help To Buy....votes at the next election.
    Introducing a popular policy with the intention that people approve and therefore vote for you.

    This is a novel approach. Do you think it will catch on?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    GeoffM said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator has got a bee in his bonnet about Help To Buy. Pessimistically he also believes that the scheme may endure. This makes some sense as a withdrawal might lead to a fall in house prices!!!
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aa1c9dfa-30ea-11e3-b478-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hM9zFbZv

    Warning: incorrect URL. This is supposed to link the "UK's premier economic commentator" but FrankBooth has accidentally linked to Martin Wolf instead.

    tbh I would say he is unrivalled. I suspect no-one else is as widely read or respected amongst the global great and the good.

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,758
    Ed Vs Energy Providers

    Mission accomplished
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    tim said:

    Carola said:

    Mail fp reporting no full driving licence until 19. And what's a 'tramp stamp'? *innocent face*


    Is it just tattooed numbers the Mail historically likes then?
    Found that quote yet timmy?
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    RedRag1 said:

    Daily Express FP "Millions face eat or heat dilemma"...these Marxists are getting everywhere.

    So what's your easy solution? The nation would love to know.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Max_Edinburgh said:

    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:

    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!

    Mark Senior is predicting a Lib Dem hold in that seat. As you actually live there, what is your view?

    Stuart! How are you? Long time no hear. To be absolutely honest I've been away from it too much to make a definitive call It's probably one of the LD's strongest seats in Scotland now but it's the sort of place where the individual candidate can make a big difference. I wouldn't read too much into it either way, it's like elections in much of rural Scotland - local usually triumphs over national!
    I'm very well thank you. Kind of you to ask.

    Yes, much of my experience of Scottish local politics is in rural areas, and many voters ignore party labels and look at the credentials of the individual candidates. I very much doubt that Mark Senior knows much about Keith Cockburn, Morag Kerr or Nancy Norman, but perhaps you do?

    I wonder if the Labour candidate Veronica McTernan is any relative of the notorious smear-merchant John McTernan?

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/john-mcternan-playing-nasty-card-might-get-results-1-1607494
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    bigjohnowls said:

    Ed Vs Energy Providers

    Mission accomplished

    This is some kind of Marxist takeover that is being induced by such commy rags like The Express. It's is a free market and those helpful energy companies are serving their customers very well. Luckily The Heil is telling it as it is.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,758
    Red Cross story more bad news for GE 2015 blues
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Max_Edinburgh said:

    RedRag1 said:

    Daily Express FP "Millions face eat or heat dilemma"...these Marxists are getting everywhere.

    So what's your easy solution? The nation would love to know.
    I am waiting for Dan Hodges to tell me and I will quote it endlessly for months on end.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    bigjohnowls said:

    Ed Vs Energy Providers

    Mission accomplished

    Ed v pension funds
    Ed vs 000s of employees in energy sector
    Ed vs suppliers of key infrastructure
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,758
    Have the Red Cross not read the IMF report?
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    bigjohnowls said:

    Red Cross story more bad news for GE 2015 blues

    Red Cross....Red Ed...Red Robins....all part of the Marxist conspiracy.....Buy The Heil!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,315
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Neil said:

    FrankBooth said:

    Unsurprisingly the UK's premier economic commentator

    You seem to have accidentally linked to an article by Martin Wolf rather than a post from Avery with yellow boxes.
    If I were a dog, I'd be dry humping that post of yours, as I liked it, a lot.
    Down, boy!
  • Max_EdinburghMax_Edinburgh Posts: 347
    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:

    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Max_Edinburgh said:

    I'm ashamed to say that having been called away to London I was unable to support the cause in my home seat of Tweeddale West!

    Mark Senior is predicting a Lib Dem hold in that seat. As you actually live there, what is your view?

    Stuart! How are you? Long time no hear. To be absolutely honest I've been away from it too much to make a definitive call It's probably one of the LD's strongest seats in Scotland now but it's the sort of place where the individual candidate can make a big difference. I wouldn't read too much into it either way, it's like elections in much of rural Scotland - local usually triumphs over national!
    I'm very well thank you. Kind of you to ask.

    Yes, much of my experience of Scottish local politics is in rural areas, and many voters ignore party labels and look at the credentials of the individual candidates. I very much doubt that Mark Senior knows much about Keith Cockburn, Morag Kerr or Nancy Norman, but perhaps you do?

    I wonder if the Labour candidate Veronica McTernan is any relative of the notorious smear-merchant John McTernan?

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/john-mcternan-playing-nasty-card-might-get-results-1-1607494
    Glad to hear you are well. Despite our disagreements on the constititional question I always enjoed your passionate, and courteous, take on events.

    Now, now we both know Labour never smear! They just occssionaly forget the truth - as tim so often illustrates.

    Nancy Norman was a former independent councillor, and local minister, who stood for the LDs last time round. Morag Kerr is a vet in the vilage I grew up in and Keith Cockburn is a Peebles businessman!
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Alfie Alfredi gets a big cheer in Cambridge - Labour could end up 3rd yet.

    Up pops the ugly public sector boot to support Diane.
  • RedRag1RedRag1 Posts: 527
    Oh no, the country is doooooooomed. Even The Scum has joined the Marxist conspiracy. Leave the energy companies alone, it's a free market, they are serving their customers well.
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