Let's not pretend the mobile providers did this out of the goodness of their hearts. It was because of the EU rule and they have tried to make a virtue out of the necessity. However, it should be fairly easy to shame them into keeping the policy, in the 21st century.
Three introduced free overseas roaming ages before the EU, it's an area of competition for the major networks. It's the MVNOs that will be the most likely to cut it but they serve customers looking for cheap deals so it will be a choice after that.
Wasn't Three's free international roaming only on networks owned (or co-owned) by Hutchison though? (Plus the US, IIRC.)
I would have thought that exiting the EU will allow a greater range of plans, and therefore more flexibility for consumers. (If you don't want 'free' roaming, you might be able to get a slightly cheaper plan.)
That being said, they will also use algorithims to work out which of their customers are least likely to switch, and then - post-Brexit - put them on plans that do charge for roaming, because they are profit maximising entities, and that is the logical thing to do.
Operation @SeanT progressing nicely - Newquay branch captured - on film! - today, adding to Falmouth and Gunnislake branches yesterday, just Penzance, St Ives and Looe left. Slumming it in Plymouth till Friday afternoon
Well it won't be Henry Cavill - Warner Bros have dumped him as Superman....just when you thought they couldn't screw up the DC Universe any further.....
Swiss consumers in 2016 were charged an average* of 60CHF (CA £45) per GB for data roaming in the EU. I wouldn't count on free roaming post Brexit. The prices include higher wholesale costs.
* In bundle usage is counted as "free" but you pay for it indirectly through through the price of the bundle
There is only one deal being negotiated and TM will put it before the HOC in due course. I read that the EU are planning a special November signing ceremony for the deal which seems to imply agreement on its way
Also tonight reports the EU are tweaking the Irish border issue
On topic, allowing for the Americo-centicity of Time that Colin Kaepernick and Meghan Markle are quite likely winners, particularly if she has a honeymoon baby.
Swiss consumers in 2016 were charged an average* of 60CHF (CA £45) per GB for data roaming in the EU. I wouldn't count on free roaming post Brexit. The prices include higher wholesale costs.
* In bundle usage is counted as "free" but you pay for it indirectly through through the price of the bundle
Operation @SeanT progressing nicely - Newquay branch captured - on film! - today, adding to Falmouth and Gunnislake branches yesterday, just Penzance, St Ives and Looe left. Slumming it in Plymouth till Friday afternoon
Mind you seeing Faisal Islam traduced by the CAA over grounding flights was very satisfying. He needs to apologise for his nonsense but I am not holding my breath
I suspect we could cope with that. We did for many years with only minor grumbling
And now Sky have had to say that a couple of UK providers have said they will not re-instate roaming charges. You could not make it up
well Sky clearly did!
Experts at it
You criticise Sky so often Big_G, why do you still bother watching it?
Swiss consumers in 2016 were charged an average* of 60CHF (CA £45) per GB for data roaming in the EU. I wouldn't count on free roaming post Brexit. The prices include higher wholesale costs.
* In bundle usage is counted as "free" but you pay for it indirectly through through the price of the bundle
Mind you seeing Faisal Islam traduced by the CAA over grounding flights was very satisfying. He needs to apologise for his nonsense but I am not holding my breath
I suspect we could cope with that. We did for many years with only minor grumbling
And now Sky have had to say that a couple of UK providers have said they will not re-instate roaming charges. You could not make it up
well Sky clearly did!
Experts at it
You criticise Sky so often Big_G, why do you still bother watching it?
I like the format but they are so pro remain and have no balance. Even tonight Islam was talking about the grounding of planes despite being rubbished by the CAA and now they have rolled out Heseltine
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
It's worth running through the economics of roaming. EU telcos are obliged to cap wholesale charges to €6 per GB (down to €2.50 by 2022) . I'm on a £9 per month mobile contract that comes with 4GB of data. My provider loses substantially when I use my full allowance in the EU.
Come Brexit, EU telcos will want to recoup their losses by charging much higher wholesale prices. UK telcos won't want to eat the cost anymore on behalf of their subscribers.
It's worth running through the economics of roaming. EU telcos are obliged to cap wholesale charges to €6 per GB (down to €2.50 by 2022) . I'm on a £9 per month mobile contract that comes with 4GB of data. My provider loses substantially when I use my full allowance in the EU.
Come Brexit, EU telcos will want to recoup their losses by charging much higher wholesale prices. UK telcos won't want to eat the cost anymore on behalf of their subscribers.
Sorry but why on Earth would an average UK consumer use their full allowance in the EU? I highly doubt there are many consumers that fit that profile.
I think she has the Brexiteers cornered now. We'll look back on Tezza as the political colossus who crushed the saboteurs - but not the ones she was assumed to be crushing at the time.
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
A couple of questions some of you Con members may know the answer to:
1. Does Theresa know how many letters there currently are lodged with the 1922 committee? 2. Does Graham Brady make sure MPs who wrote letters, say, 6 months or more earlier, still want a confidence vote?
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
It's worth running through the economics of roaming. EU telcos are obliged to cap wholesale charges to €6 per GB (down to €2.50 by 2022) . I'm on a £9 per month mobile contract that comes with 4GB of data. My provider loses substantially when I use my full allowance in the EU.
Come Brexit, EU telcos will want to recoup their losses by charging much higher wholesale prices. UK telcos won't want to eat the cost anymore on behalf of their subscribers.
Sorry but why on Earth would an average UK consumer use their full allowance in the EU? I highly doubt there are many consumers that fit that profile.
It's not difficult to use up your full data allowance in one visit. I doubt my provider makes much profit off me overall. It will be relying on the customers who never go to the EU. It's the reason why post Brexit telcos won't want to eat roaming charges as a "product differentiator". They will attract too many of the wrong kind of loss making customer. At the moment all telcos have to eat roaming charges so there's no reason to move to another to get free roaming.
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
Yesterday I put a £20 bet on India at 500/1. At one point I was being offered £1,400 cash out but didn't take it. That's stupidity for you.
Ouch! To be fair, Rashid suddenly morphing into Shane Warne would have been quite difficult to foresee.
As Jimmy Anderson turned to run up 'I said take his middle wicket out Jimmy' which he promptly did
My wife said 'how on earth did you know he was going to do that'
'Genius' I replied
It wasn't that bad a test for a dead rubber!
The whole series has been a great advert for test cricket. What other sport has such swings of firtune in (almost) every match? I went to the first day at Southampton and by mid-afternoon it looked odds-on that England were going to lose that one.
We are within weeks of a deal. Of course there are genuine concerns but nothing is going to change where we are at now. The only benefit is likely to be that leaving on WTO is extinguished
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
Leave Councils will moan but they are not the electorate
The last time I looked, local authorities have to provide services to people irrespective of whether said people voted LEAVE or REMAIN.
Local Councils have to plan for these things - you may be satisfied with "Everything will be all right. Trust Theresa." but I'm not and neither will any other organisation or indeed anyone with a functioning brain cell be satisfied.
Prudent private and public organisations carry out risk assessments and contingency planning on a daily basis. It is their responsibility to ensure the basic services continue to operate and assess anything which might interrupt that from floods to riots to significant changes in public policy.
The impacts of a "No Deal" departure from the EU are far from clear and indeed may be negligible but Councils have to look at what could happen and take steps to mitigate it including making central Government aware of potential areas of concern.
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
Leave Councils will moan but they are not the electorate
The last time I looked, local authorities have to provide services to people irrespective of whether said people voted LEAVE or REMAIN.
Local Councils have to plan for these things - you may be satisfied with "Everything will be all right. Trust Theresa." but I'm not and neither will any other organisation or indeed anyone with a functioning brain cell be satisfied.
Prudent private and public organisations carry out risk assessments and contingency planning on a daily basis. It is their responsibility to ensure the basic services continue to operate and assess anything which might interrupt that from floods to riots to significant changes in public policy.
The impacts of a "No Deal" departure from the EU are far from clear and indeed may be negligible but Councils have to look at what could happen and take steps to mitigate it including making central Government aware of potential areas of concern.
For the avoidance of doubt I oppose no deal/ wto totally and expect the HOC to prevent it
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
Yesterday I put a £20 bet on India at 500/1. At one point I was being offered £1,400 cash out but didn't take it. That's stupidity for you.
Ouch! To be fair, Rashid suddenly morphing into Shane Warne would have been quite difficult to foresee.
As Jimmy Anderson turned to run up 'I said take his middle wicket out Jimmy' which he promptly did
My wife said 'how on earth did you know he was going to do that'
'Genius' I replied
It wasn't that bad a test for a dead rubber!
The whole series has been a great advert for test cricket. What other sport has such swings of firtune in (almost) every match? I went to the first day at Southampton and by mid-afternoon it looked odds-on that England were going to lose that one.
Worth saying as well after the bad tempered last series how impressive the players were in their respect for each other. Kohli in particular never came across as less than an absolute gentleman. I will admit from what I knew of him I didn't quite expect that.
It's worth running through the economics of roaming. EU telcos are obliged to cap wholesale charges to €6 per GB (down to €2.50 by 2022) . I'm on a £9 per month mobile contract that comes with 4GB of data. My provider loses substantially when I use my full allowance in the EU.
Come Brexit, EU telcos will want to recoup their losses by charging much higher wholesale prices. UK telcos won't want to eat the cost anymore on behalf of their subscribers.
Sorry but why on Earth would an average UK consumer use their full allowance in the EU? I highly doubt there are many consumers that fit that profile.
It's not difficult to use up your full data allowance in one visit. I doubt my provider makes much profit off me overall. It will be relying on the customers who never go to the EU. It's the reason why post Brexit telcos won't want to eat roaming charges as a "product differentiator". They will attract too many of the wrong kind of loss making customer. At the moment all telcos have to eat roaming charges so there's no reason to move to another to get free roaming.
Except the typical profile of a Brit is probably someone who goes roaming maybe once a year and doesn't want to pay exorbitant fees when they do. So long as enough people like that sign up the few "wrong kinds" can be handled.
What if we get to November and Boris Johnson explicitly says that the Brexit deal is a humiliation and we'd be better off stopping Brexit altogether?
And it will confirm to the nation he is bonkers
Maybe, but I really can't believe that we'd serenely sail on with Brexit regardless.
We're not exactly 'sailing serenely' at the moment, more 'drifting helplessly.'
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
For the avoidance of doubt I oppose no deal/ wto totally and expect the HOC to prevent it
You also said earlier "I support TM and her compromise".
Fine, if the Government was negotiating the A50 process with you there wouldn't be any problem but we aren't and the EU have made it clear there are aspects of the Chequers Plan which they cannot accept.
What then? Are you prepared to compromise on aspects of Chequers - obviously, TM already has because of the initial cave-in to the ERG - and if so at what point does Chequers become unsupportable because too much, in your view, has been surrendered to the EU?
Hmm perhaps we're right to be leaving the EU with that stupid article 13 law they passed today. What a shitshow, only UKIP voting against the nonsense.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Hmm perhaps we're right to be leaving the EU with that stupid article 13 law they passed today. What a shitshow, only UKIP voting against the nonsense.
Tory MEPs voted to back the overtly anti-semitic Orban too.
For the avoidance of doubt I oppose no deal/ wto totally and expect the HOC to prevent it
You also said earlier "I support TM and her compromise".
Fine, if the Government was negotiating the A50 process with you there wouldn't be any problem but we aren't and the EU have made it clear there are aspects of the Chequers Plan which they cannot accept.
What then? Are you prepared to compromise on aspects of Chequers - obviously, TM already has because of the initial cave-in to the ERG - and if so at what point does Chequers become unsupportable because too much, in your view, has been surrendered to the EU?
I am happy with BINO but I expect TM to achieve more than BINO. We only have a few more weeks to wait
Desperate stuff harassing children, what kind of lowlifes are they.
Friends of Burgon, McDonnell and Piers Corbyn...
says it all really
Ian Bone from Class War. Nothing to do with Labour or even Momentum this one to be fair.
They appear on the same protests, stand behind the same banners - there might not be official links - but there are very clear connections nonetheless.
I think you underestimate the factionalism of the hard left. Class War and Ian Bone are not Corbynistas:
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It would be his back he would break. ERG would erupt in fury
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It would be his back he would break. ERG would erupt in fury
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
We really don't need a Kinnock in any capacity.
Two of them was more than enough.
I really have no time for political dynasties (though I appreciate it is impossible to legislate to prevent them)
For the avoidance of doubt I oppose no deal/ wto totally and expect the HOC to prevent it
You also said earlier "I support TM and her compromise".
Fine, if the Government was negotiating the A50 process with you there wouldn't be any problem but we aren't and the EU have made it clear there are aspects of the Chequers Plan which they cannot accept.
What then? Are you prepared to compromise on aspects of Chequers - obviously, TM already has because of the initial cave-in to the ERG - and if so at what point does Chequers become unsupportable because too much, in your view, has been surrendered to the EU?
I am happy with BINO but I expect TM to achieve more than BINO. We only have a few more weeks to wait
Indeed. Probably BINO plus ( or minus if you are a Remainer). I’m comfy with that. As long as there is more than a fig leaf on FOM). We can work from there. As Ireland did after 1922.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
We really don't need a Kinnock in any capacity.
Two of them was more than enough.
I really have no time for political dynasties (though I appreciate it is impossible to legislate to prevent them)
Berger would be a more credible choice
His Father save labour from the hard left, now it is up to him to step into his Father's shoes maybe
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
We really don't need a Kinnock in any capacity.
Two of them was more than enough.
I really have no time for political dynasties (though I appreciate it is impossible to legislate to prevent them)
Berger would be a more credible choice
That would make the leader of the Labour Party Jew, anti-Semite, Jew.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
It just wouldn’t. Sorry and all that, but it wouldn’t.
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
We really don't need a Kinnock in any capacity.
Two of them was more than enough.
I really have no time for political dynasties (though I appreciate it is impossible to legislate to prevent them)
Berger would be a more credible choice
Yes fair enough. I was plucking him out of thin air as an example of the sane wing of the Labour Party. Berger fits the bill too.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
You might think so, and I might think so, but polling suggests he's the Brexiteers' great white hope. If he throws in the towel it will have a major impact on opinion.
Why
Because, as HYUFD will tell you, he's still seen as the man with the charisma to make things happen. If he genuinely changes his mind on Brexit, instead of pretending it would all be find if we took a different approach, I think it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
We may have hit Peak Remainer Desperation.....
Nah not yet. But the realisation is dawning we are heading in to time added on, they need to score and we’ve got the ball in the corner down their end of the pitch. Noises off increasingly indicate some kind of deal will be cut if only because the EU can’t be sure of what happens if they push it too far. BINO minus as I’d call it, and we diverge gradually from there. Tide of history turned, ever closer union stopped. Would be just great.
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I would have thought that exiting the EU will allow a greater range of plans, and therefore more flexibility for consumers. (If you don't want 'free' roaming, you might be able to get a slightly cheaper plan.)
That being said, they will also use algorithims to work out which of their customers are least likely to switch, and then - post-Brexit - put them on plans that do charge for roaming, because they are profit maximising entities, and that is the logical thing to do.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6159915/Henry-Cavill-hangs-Superman-cape-Warner-Bros-rules-future-appearances.html
* In bundle usage is counted as "free" but you pay for it indirectly through through the price of the bundle
https://www.bakom.admin.ch/bakom/en/homepage/telecommunication/facts-and-figures/statistical-observatory/roaming/prices-for-international-voice-roaming-services.html#-1823948220
There is only one deal being negotiated and TM will put it before the HOC in due course. I read that the EU are planning a special November signing ceremony for the deal which seems to imply agreement on its way
Also tonight reports the EU are tweaking the Irish border issue
Really? Really?
*rolls eyes again*
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1039841087567880192?s=19
Red to Green
And of course holidays are over
Come Brexit, EU telcos will want to recoup their losses by charging much higher wholesale prices. UK telcos won't want to eat the cost anymore on behalf of their subscribers.
https://twitter.com/radowitzky57/status/913387036991787013?s=19
1. Does Theresa know how many letters there currently are lodged with the 1922 committee?
2. Does Graham Brady make sure MPs who wrote letters, say, 6 months or more earlier, still want a confidence vote?
My wife said 'how on earth did you know he was going to do that'
'Genius' I replied
I think he was planning a centenary celebration of the Bolshevik revolution, but nobody came.
Local Councils have to plan for these things - you may be satisfied with "Everything will be all right. Trust Theresa." but I'm not and neither will any other organisation or indeed anyone with a functioning brain cell be satisfied.
Prudent private and public organisations carry out risk assessments and contingency planning on a daily basis. It is their responsibility to ensure the basic services continue to operate and assess anything which might interrupt that from floods to riots to significant changes in public policy.
The impacts of a "No Deal" departure from the EU are far from clear and indeed may be negligible but Councils have to look at what could happen and take steps to mitigate it including making central Government aware of potential areas of concern.
I do however support TM and her compromise
A lot depends how they scored these risks in terms of likelihood and consequences.
https://youtu.be/vciXxY5ADoA
But the only people from whom such an announcement might carry weight are Farage and Rees-Mogg. Boris is not so much a busted flush as an empty house, on all sides.
Fine, if the Government was negotiating the A50 process with you there wouldn't be any problem but we aren't and the EU have made it clear there are aspects of the Chequers Plan which they cannot accept.
What then? Are you prepared to compromise on aspects of Chequers - obviously, TM already has because of the initial cave-in to the ERG - and if so at what point does Chequers become unsupportable because too much, in your view, has been surrendered to the EU?
What a shitshow, only UKIP voting against the nonsense.
So much for beware the lean and hungry man... Bojo is f@cked:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-09-corruption-hard-youre-politician-wide.html
Boris has served a purpose, but millions of us thought this one through for keeps. He was a helpful catalyst. Great. But, I really really doubt, even his changing his mind (which I do not see) is going to result in the Damascene conversion of Leavers en masse.
I think it’s time he went back full time to journalism myself. I really don’t fancy a Boris/Jezza choice in 2022. We need a bit of boring. Kinnock jr v Sajid Javid anyone?
Two of them was more than enough.
I really have no time for political dynasties (though I appreciate it is impossible to legislate to prevent them)
Berger would be a more credible choice
It has a certain neat symmetry.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6156521/Paul-McCartney-reveals-enjoyed-group-masturbation-Beatles-bandmate-John-Lennon.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/viktor-orban-conservative-european-parliament-theresa-may-a8534401.html
Here comes the sun?
https://twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1039984873983942657
I have to say this has given a whole new dimension to my understanding of Beatles songs...
I thought it was next week.
Or was it next month?
Or November?
I wish they could make up their minds on this.