Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
Mr. Eagles, I'm not sure I'll have the time necessary to correct all your errors. That being so, it might be simpler if you just toss your latest draft in a bucket of red ink.
Mr. Eagles, I'm not sure I'll have the time necessary to correct all your errors. That being so, it might be simpler if you just toss your latest draft in a bucket of red ink.
Grand old Soviet joke:
Two brothers, John, and Bob, who lived in America and were members of the communist party, decided to emigrate to the USSR. Even though they didn't believe the American media's negative reports on the conditions in the USSR, they decided to exercise caution. John would go to Russia to test the waters. If they were right and it was a communist paradise, then John would write a letter to Bob using black ink. If, though, the situation in the USSR was as bad as the American media liked to portray, and the KGB was a force to be feared, John would use red ink to indicate whatever he says in the letter must not be believed.
In three months John sent his first report. It was in black ink and read, "I'm so happy here! It's a beautiful country, I enjoy complete freedom and a high standard of living. All the capitalist press wrote was lies. Everything is readily available! There is only one small thing of which there's a shortage. Red ink."
Mr. Doethur, that reminds me of a rather good line in Babylon 5. The doctor's put the command team on different diets and none of them like it. Ivanova complains that she doesn't want to become part of the ever expanding Russian frontier, and Dr. Franklin replies that she has such lovely borders.
Pretty convincing article, thanks Richard. A caveat might be that sufficiently shameless use of pardons before 2020 might reinforce GOP resolve not to renominate him. In that situation, I could well see him running as an independent - not a possibility I've seen discussed before, but entirely in keeping with his personality. I think he'd lose, but the official GOP candidate might be pushed into third place.
How can the GOP resolve not to nominate him? As long as he gets enough GOP primary voters voting for him he will be nominee again
If Trump pardons his cronies could someone produce a cartoon with TRUMP metamorphosing into SWAMP.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
Surely the same applied in 2014 when the Swedish Democrats pretty much matched or slightly outperformed most of the final polls?
Pretty convincing article, thanks Richard. A caveat might be that sufficiently shameless use of pardons before 2020 might reinforce GOP resolve not to renominate him. In that situation, I could well see him running as an independent - not a possibility I've seen discussed before, but entirely in keeping with his personality. I think he'd lose, but the official GOP candidate might be pushed into third place.
How can the GOP resolve not to nominate him? As long as he gets enough GOP primary voters voting for him he will be nominee again
If Trump pardons his cronies could someone produce a cartoon with TRUMP metamorphosing into SWAMP.
The GOP is still bitter that a key player in the Nixon administration who enabled the Saturday Night Massacre (Bork) didn't get confirmed to the supreme Court.
Given their rush to confirm a justice who would basically give Trump blanket immunity to do as he pleases they are the swampiest party who ever did swamp.
Pretty convincing article, thanks Richard. A caveat might be that sufficiently shameless use of pardons before 2020 might reinforce GOP resolve not to renominate him. In that situation, I could well see him running as an independent - not a possibility I've seen discussed before, but entirely in keeping with his personality. I think he'd lose, but the official GOP candidate might be pushed into third place.
How can the GOP resolve not to nominate him? As long as he gets enough GOP primary voters voting for him he will be nominee again
If Trump pardons his cronies could someone produce a cartoon with TRUMP metamorphosing into SWAMP.
The GOP is still bitter that a key player in the Nixon administration who enabled the Saturday Night Massacre (Bork) didn't get confirmed to the supreme Court.
Given their rush to confirm a justice who would basically give Trump blanket immunity to do as he pleases they are the swampiest party who ever did swamp.
I always felt sorry for Robert Bork.
Nixon gave him a legal order, unlike Richardson and Ruckelshaus, he hadn't given assurances to Congress not to fire Cox.
He didn't want to the Justice to be leaderless after just losing the top two people.
Of course Nixon's promise to nominate him for the next seat up on the Supreme Court may have been a factor.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
It's still not 100% secret, why not just have an X in a box?
How is it not secret? D'ye think there are massed ranks of disapproving social democrats standing around the polling station, tutting and tapping their noses every time some one picks up a blank sheet of paper?
The question should be why is there an option for it not to be secret.
I hear from the Oval that Cook feels the safest way to ensure his average is over 45 is to carry his bat. He will therefore be blocking every ball he faces.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
It's still not 100% secret, why not just have an X in a box?
How is it not secret? D'ye think there are massed ranks of disapproving social democrats standing around the polling station, tutting and tapping their noses every time some one picks up a blank sheet of paper?
The question should be why is there an option for it not to be secret.
How is a non aligned, neutral, blank sheet of paper not the secret ballot option?
I hear from the Oval that Cook feels the safest way to ensure his average is over 45 is to carry his bat. He will therefore be blocking every ball he faces.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
It's still not 100% secret, why not just have an X in a box?
How is it not secret? D'ye think there are massed ranks of disapproving social democrats standing around the polling station, tutting and tapping their noses every time some one picks up a blank sheet of paper?
The question should be why is there an option for it not to be secret.
How is a non aligned, neutral, blank sheet of paper not the secret ballot option?
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Pretty convincing article, thanks Richard. A caveat might be that sufficiently shameless use of pardons before 2020 might reinforce GOP resolve not to renominate him. In that situation, I could well see him running as an independent - not a possibility I've seen discussed before, but entirely in keeping with his personality. I think he'd lose, but the official GOP candidate might be pushed into third place.
How can the GOP resolve not to nominate him? As long as he gets enough GOP primary voters voting for him he will be nominee again
If Trump pardons his cronies could someone produce a cartoon with TRUMP metamorphosing into SWAMP.
The GOP is still bitter that a key player in the Nixon administration who enabled the Saturday Night Massacre (Bork) didn't get confirmed to the supreme Court.
Given their rush to confirm a justice who would basically give Trump blanket immunity to do as he pleases they are the swampiest party who ever did swamp.
I always felt sorry for Robert Bork.
Nixon gave him a legal order, unlike Richardson and Ruckelshaus, he hadn't given assurances to Congress not to fire Cox.
He didn't want to the Justice to be leaderless after just losing the top two people.
Of course Nixon's promise to nominate him for the next seat up on the Supreme Court may have been a factor.
Why sorry ? Unlike Garland, he got a straight up down vote of the Senate - and didn’t even get all Republicans backing him. It was his stated on the record views which (rightly, IMO) sunk his confirmation.
Pretty convincing article, thanks Richard. A caveat might be that sufficiently shameless use of pardons before 2020 might reinforce GOP resolve not to renominate him. In that situation, I could well see him running as an independent - not a possibility I've seen discussed before, but entirely in keeping with his personality. I think he'd lose, but the official GOP candidate might be pushed into third place.
How can the GOP resolve not to nominate him? As long as he gets enough GOP primary voters voting for him he will be nominee again
If Trump pardons his cronies could someone produce a cartoon with TRUMP metamorphosing into SWAMP.
The GOP is still bitter that a key player in the Nixon administration who enabled the Saturday Night Massacre (Bork) didn't get confirmed to the supreme Court.
Given their rush to confirm a justice who would basically give Trump blanket immunity to do as he pleases they are the swampiest party who ever did swamp.
I always felt sorry for Robert Bork.
Nixon gave him a legal order, unlike Richardson and Ruckelshaus, he hadn't given assurances to Congress not to fire Cox.
He didn't want to the Justice to be leaderless after just losing the top two people.
Of course Nixon's promise to nominate him for the next seat up on the Supreme Court may have been a factor.
Why sorry ? Unlike Garland, he got a straight up down vote of the Senate - and didn’t even get all Republicans backing him. It was his stated on the record views which (rightly, IMO) sunk his confirmation.
I think he executed the order that made most of the country think Nixon was a crook.
If he hadn't executed that order then Nixon was running out of people to execute that order.
Most runs test career 5. KC Sangakkara (SL) 12400 6. AN Cook (ENG) 12369
Needs 76 to overtake.
Would be a shame, I think, as Sangakkara was a better bat.
Sangakkara averaged something truly ridiculous like 70 as a specialist batsman. What dragged his overall average and probably the number of runs scored down for him was that for the first third of his career he had to keep wicket.
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
It's still not 100% secret, why not just have an X in a box?
How is it not secret? D'ye think there are massed ranks of disapproving social democrats standing around the polling station, tutting and tapping their noses every time some one picks up a blank sheet of paper?
The question should be why is there an option for it not to be secret.
How is a non aligned, neutral, blank sheet of paper not the secret ballot option?
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
It is undemocratic. I'm sure you'd love such a system in Scotland so your SNP boot boys could look over everyone's shoulder to make sure they vote correctly.
Yes, this system seems wide open to fraud and intimidation I have to say. They've probably got away with it up to now because it's Sweden and people tend to behave themselves. It wouldn't work for five minutes in the US.
Most runs test career 5. KC Sangakkara (SL) 12400 6. AN Cook (ENG) 12369
Needs 76 to overtake.
Would be a shame, I think, as Sangakkara was a better bat.
Sangakkara averaged something truly ridiculous like 70 as a specialist batsman. What dragged his overall average and probably the number of runs scored down for him was that for the first third of his career he had to keep wicket.
Something of a wildcard for the Sweden results tonight. My cousin who lives there explained to me how the voting system works and its intended purpose of shaming people into only voting for "acceptable" parties. The way voting happens there is that people take voting sheets from a common tray and them post them into a ballot box, each party running has it's own sheet in a separate container which one must pick the ballot paper up from. He said the system has been designed to put pressure onto people thinking of voting against the consensus and expects that SD will underperform the online polling because of it.
He was very surprised that it wasn't just an X in a box which is truly secret.
I'm quite surprised, as it makes it more difficult to have a truly secret ballot. They also mention printing 685 million ballot cards... which seems excessive.
Well from what my cousin was saying it's intended purpose is to pressure people into not voting for anti-consensus parties like SD and the communists etc...
It is a system designed to make people's votes less secret!
Looking on the internet it appears you have an option to chose a blank ballot paper and write down the preferred party/candidate. Presumably that would be the choice for those shy supporters of the far righ..er..rejectors of cradle to grave socialism.
'There are also different kinds of ballot papers, allowing you to vote either for a particular party (without identifying a specific candidate), to choose from a list of candidates as well as parties, or to vote using a blank ballot paper. On blank ballot papers, you can write down any party and candidate. In theory, it's possible to write anyone's name, and if that person got a large enough proportion of votes, they would be elected.'
It's still not 100% secret, why not just have an X in a box?
How is it not secret? D'ye think there are massed ranks of disapproving social democrats standing around the polling station, tutting and tapping their noses every time some one picks up a blank sheet of paper?
The question should be why is there an option for it not to be secret.
How is a non aligned, neutral, blank sheet of paper not the secret ballot option?
Precisely. The whole point of doing it in secret is to avoid voter intimidation. Not as effective when you can see what kind of ballot paper they are picking up.
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
It is undemocratic. I'm sure you'd love such a system in Scotland so your SNP boot boys could look over everyone's shoulder to make sure they vote correctly.
Bullshitty anecdoter gets pwned then whines, plus ca change.
The capture by this ghastly creature of the highest political office on the planet was a tragedy of the highest order. The consequence is that many of the least desirable aspects of human nature have been given a boost and the multitudes of people who possess more than their fair share of those aspects are feeling good about themselves. It’s dreadful. He simply has to go. Nevertheless it is important that President Trump does not exit by anything other than the way he entered, because only in those circumstances can the socio-cultural impact be reversed. Impeachment, heart attack, a bullet, none of these will do the trick. They would if anything achieve the opposite. It has to be defeat at the ballot box in 2020 and the defeat must be crushing. Now one might assume that the many and varied defects of character becoming ever more obvious would make such an outcome inevitable. That is what I used to think but I no longer do. Sufficient of his supporters are sufficiently gullible to keep buying his shtick and I fear this will remain the case as long as the economy holds up. “It’s the economy, stupid”. Or more accurately, it’s the economy and they are stupid. So what we need – what we must hope and pray for – is a recession in the US, starting next year and still going strong the following November. A nice big one, a real “brother can you spare a dime?” affair. Preferably a highly unusual (unique even) type of recession that does not spread beyond America and within that once great nation affects only those who voted for the bozo.
Swedish Democrats still up 4% on 2012 though even on that poll, they are not going away but it looks as expected that the Social Democrats will again lead the next government
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
It is undemocratic. I'm sure you'd love such a system in Scotland so your SNP boot boys could look over everyone's shoulder to make sure they vote correctly.
Bullshitty anecdoter gets pwned then whines, plus ca change.
Except I'm right, the voting system is not secret and now you are trying to defend an indefensible system because you agree with its aims.
Precisely. The whole point of doing it in secret is to avoid voter intimidation. Not as effective when you can see what kind of ballot paper they are picking up.
Surely they have a large number of people who use the blank paper on principle, rather than to hide a 'guilty' secret? I would.
Second exit poll with Sweden Democrats second looks more accurate, it had double the sample of the first exit poll but we shall see.
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
Most runs test career 5. KC Sangakkara (SL) 12400 6. AN Cook (ENG) 12369
Needs 76 to overtake.
Would be a shame, I think, as Sangakkara was a better bat.
Sangakkara averaged something truly ridiculous like 70 as a specialist batsman. What dragged his overall average and probably the number of runs scored down for him was that for the first third of his career he had to keep wicket.
Precisely. The whole point of doing it in secret is to avoid voter intimidation. Not as effective when you can see what kind of ballot paper they are picking up.
Surely they have a large number of people who use the blank paper on principle, rather than to hide a 'guilty' secret? I would.
Good evening, everyone.
Yeah, but if you were being intimidated, you wouldn't be asked to pick up the blank ballot paper...
Second exit poll with Sweden Democrats second looks more accurate, it had double the sample of the first exit poll but we shall see.
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
The real results will be interesting, as they always are.
Swedish Democrats still up 4% on 2012 though even on that poll, they are not going away but it looks as expected that the Social Democrats will again lead the next government
4 for Lofven next PM on Betfair if you think that.
Swedish Democrats still up 4% on 2012 though even on that poll, they are not going away but it looks as expected that the Social Democrats will again lead the next government
4 for Lofven next PM on Betfair if you think that.
Though with centre left and centre right blocks almost tied based on the exit polls he may have to follow Merkel and lead a Social Democrat and Moderate Grand Coalition to keep the Sweden Democrats out of any role in Government
Second exit poll with Sweden Democrats second looks more accurate, it had double the sample of the first exit poll but we shall see.
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
Quite a big difference in the two exit polls - I suppose we will need to await the actual results. Is there a shy SD factor. The second has more than double the sample size and seems to match recent polling more accurately.
Its quite confusing though with the top party being S&D and the second being SD?
Second exit poll with Sweden Democrats second looks more accurate, it had double the sample of the first exit poll but we shall see.
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
Quite a big difference in the two exit polls - I suppose we will need to await the actual results. Is there a shy SD factor.
Its quite confusing though with the top party being S&D and the second being SD?
There was some evidence of shy SD voters in 2014 but we will see
Precisely. The whole point of doing it in secret is to avoid voter intimidation. Not as effective when you can see what kind of ballot paper they are picking up.
Surely they have a large number of people who use the blank paper on principle, rather than to hide a 'guilty' secret? I would.
Good evening, everyone.
Yeah, but if you were being intimidated, you wouldn't be asked to pick up the blank ballot paper...
Indeed, but I thought it was a passive intimidation that was under discussion, more like social disapproval of smoking.
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
It is undemocratic. I'm sure you'd love such a system in Scotland so your SNP boot boys could look over everyone's shoulder to make sure they vote correctly.
In Scotland we leave the cheating to the unionists , either of the red or blue versions.
Second exit poll with Sweden Democrats second looks more accurate, it had double the sample of the first exit poll but we shall see.
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
Quite a big difference in the two exit polls - I suppose we will need to await the actual results. Is there a shy SD factor.
Its quite confusing though with the top party being S&D and the second being SD?
There was some evidence of shy SD voters in 2014 but we will see
It would have to be way off.
I honestly can't see how 5/1 is close to fair.
Mind you I bolstered my position at 8/1 so happy enough to let it run now.
Climate change on the left, and cultural change on the right, is driving fragmentation of the traditional parties in Sweden.
If they want it to stop they need to have answers to both.
Yes, it looks like the UKIP style Swedish Democrats were the biggest gainers in this election followed by the Corbynite Left Party at the expense of the Moderates, the Swedish Tories' sister party and the Social Democrats who are basically Brownite Labour
There is a twitter account saying that the first result is from Hyppeln - 7% swing from S to SD; 16.5% from Moderates to SD.
That would be a significantly higher swing to the SDs than both exit polls then, especially the Moderates to SD Swing but may just be 1 constituency, otherwise a 'shy' SD voter factor?
Because you know it's an absence of a clear choice, "look at that man, he picked up a blank one instead of X".
Awful system.
Oh well, at least we've moved on from 'they almost literally make you pick up a ballot paper with swastikas on it' to the undemocratic repressiveness of blank bits of paper.
It is undemocratic. I'm sure you'd love such a system in Scotland so your SNP boot boys could look over everyone's shoulder to make sure they vote correctly.
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Two brothers, John, and Bob, who lived in America and were members of the communist party, decided to emigrate to the USSR. Even though they didn't believe the American media's negative reports on the conditions in the USSR, they decided to exercise caution. John would go to Russia to test the waters. If they were right and it was a communist paradise, then John would write a letter to Bob using black ink. If, though, the situation in the USSR was as bad as the American media liked to portray, and the KGB was a force to be feared, John would use red ink to indicate whatever he says in the letter must not be believed.
In three months John sent his first report. It was in black ink and read, "I'm so happy here! It's a beautiful country, I enjoy complete freedom and a high standard of living. All the capitalist press wrote was lies. Everything is readily available! There is only one small thing of which there's a shortage. Red ink."
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Five of Jennings’ nine dismissals this series have been LBW or bowled.
Against balls from the seamers which would have hit the stumps, he’s averaged 1.33.
That's very unusual.
Given their rush to confirm a justice who would basically give Trump blanket immunity to do as he pleases they are the swampiest party who ever did swamp.
Pun: 0/10 (but worth suffering)
P/S Yates still leads the Vuelta.
Nixon gave him a legal order, unlike Richardson and Ruckelshaus, he hadn't given assurances to Congress not to fire Cox.
He didn't want to the Justice to be leaderless after just losing the top two people.
Of course Nixon's promise to nominate him for the next seat up on the Supreme Court may have been a factor.
Awful system.
Come on Cookie!
5. KC Sangakkara (SL) 12400
6. AN Cook (ENG) 12369
Needs 76 to overtake.
Unlike Garland, he got a straight up down vote of the Senate - and didn’t even get all Republicans backing him. It was his stated on the record views which (rightly, IMO) sunk his confirmation.
If he hadn't executed that order then Nixon was running out of people to execute that order.
http://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/11105/swedish-parliamentary-election-2018?page=10
Might the selectors Cook up a reason to keep the fellow on board ....
https://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/kumar-sangakkara-15-batting-records-of-the-legend-322078
Absolute top bloke, too.
Polls close 8pm local 7pm UK
Links:
https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/valg-i-sverige-1.11200732
https://www.tv4play.se/program/nyheterna/11498234
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/wEGeKP
TV4 exit poll 10 mins ago had SocDem 25 Mod 18 SweDem 16 which feels a bit low for the Sweden Democrats?
Thanks
DC
Anyway, I'm off for the evening. Play nicely, everyone.
Left - 41%
Right - 40%
Good evening, everyone.
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1038850480187879425?s=20
If Swedish Democrats do indeed take second they will follow Lega Nord and Front National as a populist right party having overtaken the main centre right party
SAP 26.2, V 9.0, MP 4.2 = 39.4
M 17.8, C 8.9, KD 7.4, L 5.5 = 39.6
SD 19.2
Good as ever to see you sir. Keep the data coming.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2014
https://www.thelocal.se/20180909/live-blog-swedish-election-day-sweden-2018-vote
Its quite confusing though with the top party being S&D and the second being SD?
official vote count - 2/6004 stations reporting
I honestly can't see how 5/1 is close to fair.
Mind you I bolstered my position at 8/1 so happy enough to let it run now.
If they want it to stop they need to have answers to both.
I've stuck another 300 on the social Democrats - someone tell me why I'm wrong quickly lol !