What is the point of ANY of the "big three" parties?
I'd say we only have a big two now, unless you're including the SNP as one of the three? Surely the point of any modern political party is to get elected, and then get reelected? Running the country clearly comes a distant second. Maybe we should all join the Lib Dems, make it a real #peoplesparty and keep the professionals out of the loop?
The point of any political party should be to provide the country with security, stability, safety and promote tolerance and growth.
What we have are two travesties, an invisible pointless party and (since you mention the SNP) a party that represents less than half of one low-population region and whose stated objective is to break up the UK.
But these feckers are still in charge. What sort of halfwits vote for them?
You are not saying I am a half wit are you
Big G, we have all voted for the current crop of politicians. Possibly some form of mass hallucination. I'd strongly advocate not voting for any of 'em.
But I am not a half wit by staying loyal to my party even though I attack it's hard Bexit fantasies and the ridiculous Boris
Big G, you vote for 'em, you own 'em. I voted for Brexit, I'm a racist, xenophobic little Englander.
Of course you are not and I voted remain but support Brexit as it is the democratic thing to do. I do not, however, support a hard Brexit or Boris
Listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk....my opinion has gone right down on Musk, he came across terribly. If you only heard that interview, you wouldn't give him $5 let alone the $5bn the US government have given him.
.... and yet, he's worth 20 billion, founded Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX and several other interesting companies. Suggests he has some idea what he's doing (even if he is a bit weird).
He was a “co-founder” of PayPal (ie a mid level exec there at the beginning)
Tesla was built on subsidies from the Obama government
(Probably based on a high price for Tesla a stupid number for SpaceX and some puff from Musk)
Those SpaceX rockets do what they are meant to do, and it's fucking awesome. Similarly PayPal works whenever I use it, and rcs seems to like his tesla. If musk is an underachieving nebbish (and if these aren't really his achievements its odd that we don't hear from their genuine authors) I wish we had more of them.
What is the point of ANY of the "big three" parties?
I'd say we only have a big two now, unless you're including the SNP as one of the three? Surely the point of any modern political party is to get elected, and then get reelected? Running the country clearly comes a distant second. Maybe we should all join the Lib Dems, make it a real #peoplesparty and keep the professionals out of the loop?
The point of any political party should be to provide the country with security, stability, safety and promote tolerance and growth.
What we have are two travesties, an invisible pointless party and (since you mention the SNP) a party that represents less than half of one low-population region and whose stated objective is to break up the UK.
But these feckers are still in charge. What sort of halfwits vote for them?
You are not saying I am a half wit are you
Big G, we have all voted for the current crop of politicians. Possibly some form of mass hallucination. I'd strongly advocate not voting for any of 'em.
But I am not a half wit by staying loyal to my party even though I attack it's hard Bexit fantasies and the ridiculous Boris
Big G, Hard Brexit was in the 2017 manifesto. It isn’t a fantasy; it’s government policy.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations, plus they now own Solar City, so have the solar panel and battery tech to produce power.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk....my opinion has gone right down on Musk, he came across terribly. If you only heard that interview, you wouldn't give him $5 let alone the $5bn the US government have given him.
.... and yet, he's worth 20 billion, founded Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX and several other interesting companies. Suggests he has some idea what he's doing (even if he is a bit weird).
He was a “co-founder” of PayPal (ie a mid level exec there at the beginning)
Tesla was built on subsidies from the Obama government
(Probably based on a high price for Tesla a stupid number for SpaceX and some puff from Musk)
Those SpaceX rockets do what they are meant to do, and it's fucking awesome. Similarly PayPal works whenever I use it, and rcs seems to like his tesla. If musk is an underachieving nebbish (and if these aren't really his achievements its odd that we don't hear from their genuine authors) I wish we had more of them.
Envy, perhaps ? Which considering what a prize pill Musk is, would be odd.
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to Tim Shipman it was Marina Wheeler and Michael Gove who talked Boris into backing Brexit in the first place.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to Tim Shipman it was Marina Wheeler and Michael Gove who talking Boris into backing Brexit in the first place.
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
Could be....but in the grand scheme of things the charging station network is small beer in terms of cost, but could be incredibly valuable.
Musk certainly couldn't have got where he is with Tesla or SpaceX without massive government funding (and a point well made on Freakonomics podcast the other week). However, until a lot of other companies that Obama administration pumped money into Elon Musk's get shit done attitude has produced these amazing cars and rockets, and in doing so pushing the envelope of what is technically possible.
I think it was around 50 companies that got large green energy companies from Obama's administration went bust.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations, plus they now own Solar City, so have the solar panel and battery tech to produce power.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
It was smart, but the smartest thing he did was build his own battery factory, which is for now the limiting factor. The major western auto manufacturers are half a decade behind - which might, or might not, be long enough
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
But in the modern era prime movers get a lot of important IP and can then spend the next few decades licensing that IP or suing their would-be competitors.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
Well he shouldn't court publicity in the first place. The weekend press will have a field day if the reports in the mail are true
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
You need to let go of Boris.
He'd be an absolute disaster.
He has been a dickhead in public office enough times to make his private life dickheadedness superfluous.
What is the point of ANY of the "big three" parties?
I'd say we only have a big two now, unless you're including the SNP as one of the three? Surely the point of any modern political party is to get elected, and then get reelected? Running the country clearly comes a distant second. Maybe we should all join the Lib Dems, make it a real #peoplesparty and keep the professionals out of the loop?
The point of any political party should be to provide the country with security, stability, safety and promote tolerance and growth.
What we have are two travesties, an invisible pointless party and (since you mention the SNP) a party that represents less than half of one low-population region and whose stated objective is to break up the UK.
But these feckers are still in charge. What sort of halfwits vote for them?
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
Could be....but in the grand scheme of things the charging station network is small beer in terms of cost, but could be incredibly valuable.
Musk certainly couldn't have got where he is with Tesla or SpaceX without massive government funding (and a point well made on Freakonomics podcast the other week)....
Which other rocket companies don’t subsist on government money ? The investment ought to save the US government many times their outlay in future launch costs.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
You need to let go of Boris.
He'd be an absolute disaster.
Corbyn would be an even worse one and to be blunt I struggle to see any other Tory leader bar Boris who could win a majority against Corbyn
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
Well he shouldn't court publicity in the first place. The weekend press will have a field day if the reports in the mail are true
Listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk....my opinion has gone right down on Musk, he came across terribly. If you only heard that interview, you wouldn't give him $5 let alone the $5bn the US government have given him.
.... and yet, he's worth 20 billion, founded Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX and several other interesting companies. Suggests he has some idea what he's doing (even if he is a bit weird).
He was a “co-founder” of PayPal (ie a mid level exec there at the beginning)
Tesla was built on subsidies from the Obama government
(Probably based on a high price for Tesla a stupid number for SpaceX and some puff from Musk)
Those SpaceX rockets do what they are meant to do, and it's fucking awesome. Similarly PayPal works whenever I use it, and rcs seems to like his tesla. If musk is an underachieving nebbish (and if these aren't really his achievements its odd that we don't hear from their genuine authors) I wish we had more of them.
Envy, perhaps ? Which considering what a prize pill Musk is, would be odd.
What is the point of ANY of the "big three" parties?
I'd say we only have a big two now, unless you're including the SNP as one of the three? Surely the point of any modern political party is to get elected, and then get reelected? Running the country clearly comes a distant second. Maybe we should all join the Lib Dems, make it a real #peoplesparty and keep the professionals out of the loop?
The point of any political party should be to provide the country with security, stability, safety and promote tolerance and growth.
What we have are two travesties, an invisible pointless party and (since you mention the SNP) a party that represents less than half of one low-population region and whose stated objective is to break up the UK.
But these feckers are still in charge. What sort of halfwits vote for them?
You are not saying I am a half wit are you
Big G, we have all voted for the current crop of politicians. Possibly some form of mass hallucination. I'd strongly advocate not voting for any of 'em.
But I am not a half wit by staying loyal to my party even though I attack it's hard Bexit fantasies and the ridiculous Boris
Big G, Hard Brexit was in the 2017 manifesto. It isn’t a fantasy; it’s government policy.
Negotiated by TM is fine by me
Fair enough; I’m more concerned about the policy than the personnel.
I'm impressed by what Musk has achieved, but that doesn't stop him from being a prat. I do worry that he's heading for an epic nervous breakdown, which potentially will be damaging for both Tesla and SpaceX, which would be a shame.
Listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk....my opinion has gone right down on Musk, he came across terribly. If you only heard that interview, you wouldn't give him $5 let alone the $5bn the US government have given him.
.... and yet, he's worth 20 billion, founded Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX and several other interesting companies. Suggests he has some idea what he's doing (even if he is a bit weird).
He was a “co-founder” of PayPal (ie a mid level exec there at the beginning)
Tesla was built on subsidies from the Obama government
(Probably based on a high price for Tesla a stupid number for SpaceX and some puff from Musk)
Those SpaceX rockets do what they are meant to do, and it's fucking awesome. Similarly PayPal works whenever I use it, and rcs seems to like his tesla. If musk is an underachieving nebbish (and if these aren't really his achievements its odd that we don't hear from their genuine authors) I wish we had more of them.
Envy, perhaps ? Which considering what a prize pill Musk is, would be odd.
I don't follow.
Just speculating on the basis of Charles’ opinions on Musk, FWIW.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
You need to let go of Boris.
He'd be an absolute disaster.
Corbyn would be an even worse one and to be blunt I struggle to see any other Tory leader bar Boris who could win a majority against Corbyn
But you are possessed with Boris. When the time comes there will be plenty of fresher faces ready to take the party on. If Boris won he would split the party asunder
CR is right on this.
Margot James has just said on Sky he is not suitable to be PM
I think I have the solution to all this problem of entryists and ideologicial extremism..
We need a new political party with NO MEMBERS.
It would surely sweep the board at the next election.
Geert Wilders party in NL only has one official member, him. Even the MP;s for his party are not members. The reason why is that he knew the nutters and racists would join and then the party would be open to criticism.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
I'm impressed by what Musk has achieved, but that doesn't stop him from being a prat. I do worry that he's heading for an epic nervous breakdown, which potentially will be damaging for both Tesla and SpaceX, which would be a shame.
I don't know if how he was on Joe Rogan podcast is how he is normally, or if all the 120hr a week living in the Tesla factory had taken his toll.
The most revealing line he came out with was when Rogan was on a mega hero worship and basically said everybody wants to be you, and he said something along the lines of you wouldn't, its terrible. He genuinely sounded troubled....he put it down to what he said was his brain not being able to switch off and constantly thinking of new ideas, but I wonder.
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
Could be....but in the grand scheme of things the charging station network is small beer in terms of cost, but could be incredibly valuable.
Musk certainly couldn't have got where he is with Tesla or SpaceX without massive government funding (and a point well made on Freakonomics podcast the other week)....
Which other rocket companies don’t subsist on government money ? The investment ought to save the US government many times their outlay in future launch costs.
Blue Origin has had very little government money, especially compared to the billions that Bezos is pumping in. That might change if they win one of the new Air Force contracts.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
You need to let go of Boris.
He'd be an absolute disaster.
Corbyn would be an even worse one and to be blunt I struggle to see any other Tory leader bar Boris who could win a majority against Corbyn
But you are possessed with Boris. When the time comes there will be plenty of fresher faces ready to take the party on. If Boris won he would split the party asunder
CR is right on this.
Margot James has just said on Sky he is not suitable to be PM
Margot James is almost as diehard a Remainer as Anna Soubry
One of the smartest things (and potentially incredibly valuable) that Musk has done with Tesla, is the charging stations. He has built a network of them and in prime locations.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Or it could be like the Victorian railway boom, with all the prime movers losing their shirts, and others picking up the assets at fire sale prices.
Could be....but in the grand scheme of things the charging station network is small beer in terms of cost, but could be incredibly valuable.
Musk certainly couldn't have got where he is with Tesla or SpaceX without massive government funding (and a point well made on Freakonomics podcast the other week)....
Which other rocket companies don’t subsist on government money ? The investment ought to save the US government many times their outlay in future launch costs.
Blue Origin has had very little government money, especially compared to the billions that Bezos is pumping in. That might change if they win one of the new Air Force contracts.
Fair point, but they’re not launching anyone’s stuff yet.
I think I have the solution to all this problem of entryists and ideologicial extremism..
We need a new political party with NO MEMBERS.
It would surely sweep the board at the next election.
The Tories are well on their way.
That's not fair. The conservatives have many members and funders. It's just that some of them are..well, dead.
Incidentally, given the changes in Labour and Conservative memberships since Brexit...do we have a generational war going on here? Labour is idealistic, naive, jealous of the wealthy and (via antisemitism) little knowledge of history. Conservatives are grumpy, reactionary, keen to hoard to their ain folk and careless of others. That's not traditional politics, it's young versus old.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
On a more serious note: look at that Telegraph front page. Ignore the stuff about Labour, and look on the right hand of the page. There's a spiffing Matt cartoon, but also an absolutely extraordinary story about the Russian hitmen.
I don't know whether my opinion on this is typical or not among fellow Lib Dem members but, for what it's worth, I 100% approve of what I've heard of Cable's plans on this matter (and I'm certainly not a Cable cheerleader by any stretch of the imagination - but this time I think he's got it absolutely right).
Unless a Tory voteshare under Boris v Corbyn Labour poll utterly irrelevant as all those 30% could be lifelong Labour or LD voters
In a different poll today YouGov found more Tory voters thought Boris Johnson was not up to the job of PM than thought he was up to the job. 46% v 39%.
That tells you a lot.
But you ignore things like because they don’t fit your narrative.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure about that. He was Foreign Sec - who is she?
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
It's possible but not easy to be friends with an ex, but it does take a few years cooling off first.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure about that. He was Foreign Sec - who is she?
If she was Russian I am sure the Mail would have had about ten pages worth of the story
Unless a Tory voteshare under Boris v Corbyn Labour poll utterly irrelevant as all those 30% could be lifelong Labour or LD voters
In a different poll today YouGov found more Tory voters thought Boris Johnson was not up to the job of PM than thought he was up to the job. 46% v 39%.
That tells you a lot.
But you ignore things like because they don’t fit your narrative.
No, I look at the actual head to head polling which is the only polling that really matters as to how the Tories would fare under different leaders.
As YouGov showed only Boris does better than May v Labour of potential Tory leadership contenders so as long as that continues he remains the likeliest alternative to her, however at the same time she could stay Tory leader through to the next general election as enough Tory MPs do not want to risk Boris or Mogg succeeding her as leader
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Hmm, I wouldn't be so sure about that. He was Foreign Sec - who is she?
If she was Russian I am sure the Mail would have had about ten pages worth of the story
No doubt. But who is she? I've no idea, but I don't think the Foreign Secretary's bonking breaks (when, according to the Sun, his minders didn't know where he was) are entirely his private affair.
Unless a Tory voteshare under Boris v Corbyn Labour poll utterly irrelevant as all those 30% could be lifelong Labour or LD voters
In a different poll today YouGov found more Tory voters thought Boris Johnson was not up to the job of PM than thought he was up to the job. 46% v 39%.
That tells you a lot.
But you ignore things like because they don’t fit your narrative.
No, I look at the actual head to head polling which is the only polling that really matters as to how the Tories would fare under different leaders.
As YouGov showed only Boris does better than May v Labour so as long as that continues he remains the likeliest alternative to her, however at the same time she could stay Tory leader through to the next general election as enough Tory MPs do not want to risk Boris or Mogg succeeding her as leader
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
No doubt. But who is she? I've no idea, but I don't think the Foreign Secretary's bonking breaks (when, according to the Sun, his minders didn't know where he was) are entirely his private affair.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
Yes. No one without the resilience to cope with both at once should be within a mile of the levers of power in the first place. Getting divorced is a complete pita but almost all of us manage to keep buggering on regardless.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
I was divorced nearly four years ago and it is still a sore point.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
Yes. No one without the resilience to cope with both at once should be within a mile of the levers of power in the first place. Getting divorced is a complete pita but almost all of us manage to keep buggering on regardless.
But should the country be happy with Boris buggering on regardless?
No doubt. But who is she? I've no idea, but I don't think the Foreign Secretary's bonking breaks (when, according to the Sun, his minders didn't know where he was) are entirely his private affair.
The Mail and the Sun give a lot of clues...
Do they? The Sun says she's a 'Tory aide', but I'm not in the gossip loop!:
A fierce battle emerged last night between a No 10 aide caught in a porn row [Gavin Barwell] and a Tory spin doctor with close links to Boris Johnson and Michael Gove.
Carrie Symonds is fighting moves to sack her as the party’s communications chief over claims that she spends too much time promoting the Brexit-backing Ministers and not enough time promoting Theresa May.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in k/blog/how-long-does-a-divorce-take/
You're some sort of bot, aren't you?
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
Boris is not the average bloke, he is the former Mayor of London and Foreign Secretary and I really don't see what that has got to do with Brexit.
Ronald Reagan managed to be an outstanding President despite the fact he was divorced
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
Yes. No one without the resilience to cope with both at once should be within a mile of the levers of power in the first place. Getting divorced is a complete pita but almost all of us manage to keep buggering on regardless.
But should the country be happy with Boris buggering on regardless?
Experience tells me the best way to get over someone is to get under someone.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
I was divorced nearly four years ago and it is still a sore point.
It gets easier once they go to university, believe me. Going out for a beer when yer lad is buying is one of the pleasures I was never really sure I'd experience once you legal boys got involved!
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in k/blog/how-long-does-a-divorce-take/
You're some sort of bot, aren't you?
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
Boris is not the average bloke, he is the former Mayor of London and Foreign Secretary and I really don't see what that has got to do with Brexit.
Ronald Reagan managed to be an outstanding President despite the fact he was divorced
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in k/blog/how-long-does-a-divorce-take/
You're some sort of bot, aren't you?
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
Boris is not the average bloke, he is the former Mayor of London and Foreign Secretary and I really don't see what that has got to do with Brexit.
Ronald Reagan managed to be an outstanding President despite the fact he was divorced
As I said. Bot.
Think what you want of me, I will continue to say what I think regardless
The average time for a divorce in the UK this year is 16-20 weeks, so it will be over before Brexit and May almost certainly stays until next March at least to negotiate the Withdrawal Agreement and any transition period. It is how long that transition period lasts that is key
Interesting, thank you. One of the good points was "Never forget that meritocracy is the way smart people want society organised so members of their tribe — other smart people — can escape whatever world they’ve been born into.". I winced at this.
Interesting, thank you. One of the good points was "Never forget that meritocracy is the way smart people want society organised so members of their tribe — other smart people — can escape whatever world they’ve been born into.". I winced at this.
The author of that piece has previously described meritocracy as affirmative action for smart people...
Interesting, thank you. One of the good points was "Never forget that meritocracy is the way smart people want society organised so members of their tribe — other smart people — can escape whatever world they’ve been born into.". I winced at this.
The author of that piece has previously described meritocracy as affirmative action for smart people...
In general terms it is perfectly possible for a politician to have a weakness for affairs and yet be a high minded public servant in his or her political life.
Unfortunately for Boris, every aspect of his life reliably informs every other: Boris the blatantly lying journalist, Boris the ham Machiavellian politician and Boris the bonker behave in exactly the same way and with exactly the same set of motivations. Boris the bonker reflects with crystal clarity upon Boris the politician. Or, as May puts it, Boris is Boris.
On the other hand, a lot of this is already priced in.
On a more serious note: look at that Telegraph front page. Ignore the stuff about Labour, and look on the right hand of the page. There's a spiffing Matt cartoon, but also an absolutely extraordinary story about the Russian hitmen.
@hunchman was pretty clear that the Russians werem't involved in the Skirpal murders, so I think we should take the government line with a pinch of salt.
Except it isn't. Marina is a Eurosceptic who backed Boris over Brexit and has her own (very strong) criticisms of the EU and the judicial activism of the ECJ.
It's just Boris is a selfish narcissistic dickhead who's betrayed her one time too many.
According to their joint statement it said they will remain friends and support their children, hardly the woman scorned of yesterday.
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
Regardless it is their private affair
Regardless, it ain't. If he wants to be PM at a time of such national importance as Brexit, should he really have to be dealing with such life changing and potentially debilitating circumstances as divorce?
The average time for a divorce in k/blog/how-long-does-a-divorce-take/
You're some sort of bot, aren't you?
No reporting only to myself here regardless of who disagrees with me
Look, I obviously know nothing about you, but if you're saying the average bloke copes with a divorce involving children in 20 weeks purely because that is how long the legal aspect takes, then we have nothing to talk about.
Ronald Reagan managed to be an outstanding President despite the fact he was divorced
He'd been married to Nancy for nearly 30 years when he became President. Its not "divorce" that's the issue - its "trust". I also think "domestic stability" in a PM is probably a good thing for their sakes and ours.
When I got divorced many years ago, we were going to remain friends and do what was best for the children. Within a week, I'd have paid a Russian nerve agent specialist whatever he wanted to slot her. There is a reason why marriages fail, and it ain't because the unhappily wedded couple want to be friends.
There's a fair amount of luck in it, I think, and it depends a lot on what the relationship was like before. I know one couple where she decided she no longer fancied the chap enough and they sought out others, but they remain close friends and business partners. But it's the exception, sadly.
All this stuff about Boris' personal life is highly amusing but it doesn't disqualify him from becoming PM in any way. Then again I haven't seen anything that particularly qualifies him either.
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Italy, Winpoll poll:
LEGA-ENF: 35% (+18)
M5S-EFDD: 26% (-7)
PD-S&D: 21% (+2)
FI-EPP: 7% (-7)
FdI-*: 4%
LeU-S&D: 2% (-1)
+E-ALDE: 2% (-1)
Field work: 6/09/18 – 7/09/18
Sample size: 1,500"
As far as I am concerned their private family life, especially with their children involved and having to deal with their parents divorcing as well as all the media coverage too, is their business and provided Boris has not done anything illegal not really something the media should be spending much time commenting on. The French have a much better attitude to this and respect politicians privacy and private lives.
Should electric cars became the norm, he has already got a massive head start in technology and infrastructure. He could in theory leverage that will all the other car companies and effectively become the equivalent of Chevron Gas Stations for electric cars.
Which considering what a prize pill Musk is, would be odd.
Musk certainly couldn't have got where he is with Tesla or SpaceX without massive government funding (and a point well made on Freakonomics podcast the other week). However, until a lot of other companies that Obama administration pumped money into Elon Musk's get shit done attitude has produced these amazing cars and rockets, and in doing so pushing the envelope of what is technically possible.
I think it was around 50 companies that got large green energy companies from Obama's administration went bust.
He'd be an absolute disaster.
We need a new political party with NO MEMBERS.
It would surely sweep the board at the next election.
The investment ought to save the US government many times their outlay in future launch costs.
CR is right on this.
Margot James has just said on Sky he is not suitable to be PM
'Is Boris Johnson's divorce relevant to whether he should be PM?'
No 72% Yes 21%
https://news.sky.com/story/most-people-think-boris-johnsons-divorce-doesnt-matter-sky-data-poll-11492667
If this is the poll the Daily Mail is talking about one of the most ridiculously spun headlines we have ever seen!
The most revealing line he came out with was when Rogan was on a mega hero worship and basically said everybody wants to be you, and he said something along the lines of you wouldn't, its terrible. He genuinely sounded troubled....he put it down to what he said was his brain not being able to switch off and constantly thinking of new ideas, but I wonder.
It found that 30 per cent of all voters would be less likely to vote Tory if he was leader – against 21 per cent who said more likely;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6144655/Long-suffering-wife-announces-divorce-amid-claims-Boris-Johnson-caught-cheating.html
Incidentally, given the changes in Labour and Conservative memberships since Brexit...do we have a generational war going on here? Labour is idealistic, naive, jealous of the wealthy and (via antisemitism) little knowledge of history. Conservatives are grumpy, reactionary, keen to hoard to their ain folk and careless of others. That's not traditional politics, it's young versus old.
I don't know whether my opinion on this is typical or not among fellow Lib Dem members but, for what it's worth, I 100% approve of what I've heard of Cable's plans on this matter (and I'm certainly not a Cable cheerleader by any stretch of the imagination - but this time I think he's got it absolutely right).
That tells you a lot.
But you ignore things like because they don’t fit your narrative.
Johnson
Rees Mogg
Corbyn
Some fecker who is loosely affiliated to the Lib Dems.
What could go wrong?
As YouGov showed only Boris does better than May v Labour of potential Tory leadership contenders so as long as that continues he remains the likeliest alternative to her, however at the same time she could stay Tory leader through to the next general election as enough Tory MPs do not want to risk Boris or Mogg succeeding her as leader
https://www.divorce-online.co.uk/blog/how-long-does-a-divorce-take/
Good night folks
I expect theirs will take longer.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7205673/boris-johnson-blonde-tory-aide-valentines-day/
A fierce battle emerged last night between a No 10 aide caught in a porn row [Gavin Barwell] and a Tory spin doctor with close links to Boris Johnson and Michael Gove.
Carrie Symonds is fighting moves to sack her as the party’s communications chief over claims that she spends too much time promoting the Brexit-backing Ministers and not enough time promoting Theresa May.
Ronald Reagan managed to be an outstanding President despite the fact he was divorced
https://quillette.com/2018/09/06/the-system-of-diversity/
The Dublin Convention is clearly the creation of a truly insane organisation.
Was it really not possible to predict that the Dublin Convention would lead to Greece, Italy and Spain bearing much of the burden?
A burden that they think (quite rightly) should be shared by all member states.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1038167886823677952
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1038161935970304002
Unfortunately for Boris, every aspect of his life reliably informs every other: Boris the blatantly lying journalist, Boris the ham Machiavellian politician and Boris the bonker behave in exactly the same way and with exactly the same set of motivations. Boris the bonker reflects with crystal clarity upon Boris the politician. Or, as May puts it, Boris is Boris.
On the other hand, a lot of this is already priced in.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/darius-boris-and-a-blast-from-the-past-1658043.html
A poll for the Mail suggested Mr Johnson’s divorce could make it harder for the Conservatives to win the next election;
It found that 30 per cent of all voters would be less likely to vote Tory if he was leader – against 21 per cent who said more likely;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6144655/Long-suffering-wife-announces-divorce-amid-claims-Boris-Johnson-caught-cheating.html
Then again I haven't seen anything that particularly qualifies him either.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1038178263569453059