"After the events yesterday I would have drawn the line under the whole affair and moved on to targeting the many areas the government are screwing up."
This issue was never put to bed...it was just resting, until the next NEC meeting, when the diehards will resurrect Jeremy's preferred wording.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
I agree with Keiran Pedley's tweet, but it applies just as much to the "moderates" who want a stridently "pro-Israel" message as it does to the lefties who want a stridently pro-Palestine message.
I think Corbyn's stance on Israel/Palestine is a bit too uncritically pro-Palestinian for my liking, but, even if he's PM, his stance on it isn't going to make a jot of difference to anything. We're in a time where (as Obama found) even the US has next to no impact on the issue, let alone Britain. It's really not worth the bed-wetting on either wing of Labour.
As i speculated last thread, I'd be amazed if some of the 20 (spoilt / no) MPs don't self-declare as to their 'supporters' this would surely be an act of corbynite purity and pride for them....
Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.
Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.
Yes it's been quite obvious for a while now that DOJ and State Department appear to be running counter to the President's wishes.
Yes it's been quite obvious for a while now that DOJ and State Department appear to be running counter to the President's wishes.
It must be a nightmare for the Kremlin. How do they conduct foreign policy towards the US when the government as a whole is tougher than ever but the President is obsequious?
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
Yep, exactly. All the buffoons on here and in the right-wing westminster bubble twattersphere are completely getting it twisted as to how dragging this nonsense on is looking and who it is making look bad. Clue again: it isnt Corbyn.
I agree with Keiran Pedley's tweet, but it applies just as much to the "moderates" who want a stridently "pro-Israel" message as it does to the lefties who want a stridently pro-Palestine message.
I think Corbyn's stance on Israel/Palestine is a bit too uncritically pro-Palestinian for my liking, but, even if he's PM, his stance on it isn't going to make a jot of difference to anything. We're in a time where (as Obama found) even the US has next to no impact on the issue, let alone Britain. It's really not worth the bed-wetting on either wing of Labour.
Yes it is - it is revolting. I was born in wartime and the films from the death camps, childrens shoes, suitcases, piles of clothes, and indescribable anguish for the jews was etched into my and the nations fabric
Nothing you can say must be allowed to diminsh what happened and how we welcomed them imto our Country. They are British and part of our society and must be made to feel safe.
Nothing else matters and Corbyn is wholly unfit to lead our Country
Yes it's been quite obvious for a while now that DOJ and State Department appear to be running counter to the President's wishes.
It must be a nightmare for the Kremlin. How do they conduct foreign policy towards the US when the government as a whole is tougher than ever but the President is obsequious?
For the Kremlin this is the greatest intelligence operation in decades, probably since WWII. The fact that the institutions are fighting back in spite of the President doesn't change that fact.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
As i speculated last thread, I'd be amazed if some of the 20 (spoilt / no) MPs don't self-declare as to their 'supporters' this would surely be an act of corbynite purity and pride for them....
You can bet they will be outed by the likes of Guido and others even if they don't self declare
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
I think the polling shows most people haven't heard or noticed it as politics is irrelevant to their lives for 99% of the time...
As i speculated last thread, I'd be amazed if some of the 20 (spoilt / no) MPs don't self-declare as to their 'supporters' this would surely be an act of corbynite purity and pride for them....
You can bet they will be outed by the likes of Guido and others even if they don't self declare
Really? Does someone actually know how each MP voted - ie was it not anonymous?
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
Yep, exactly. All the buffoons on here and in the right-wing westminster bubble twattersphere are completely getting it twisted as to how dragging this nonsense on is looking and who it is making look bad. Clue again: it isnt Corbyn.
Talking to yourself I see. And while the press will attack Corbyn over this it is coming from within and will break labour
Yes it's been quite obvious for a while now that DOJ and State Department appear to be running counter to the President's wishes.
It must be a nightmare for the Kremlin. How do they conduct foreign policy towards the US when the government as a whole is tougher than ever but the President is obsequious?
As i speculated last thread, I'd be amazed if some of the 20 (spoilt / no) MPs don't self-declare as to their 'supporters' this would surely be an act of corbynite purity and pride for them....
You can bet they will be outed by the likes of Guido and others even if they don't self declare
Really? Does someone actually know how each MP voted - ie was it not anonymous?
I thought it was a secret ballot. Correct me if I am wrong though
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
So you're suggesting that if Corbyn gets into power then we can face an 81 year old Corbyn being responsible for the dissolution of the opposition? Presumably because he doesn't believe in democracy so the opposition gets dissolved?
Yeah, I'm not sure how quoting an endless series of noted right-wingers and Israel fanatics is proving anything?
We know editors of the Sunday Telegraph and people who have a history of being obsessively pro-Israel don't like Corbyn, it is not what I think we'd call headline news.
Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
So you're suggesting that if Corbyn gets into power then we can face an 81 year old Corbyn being responsible for the dissolution of the opposition? Presumably because he doesn't believe in democracy so the opposition gets dissolved?
Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
So you're suggesting that if Corbyn gets into power then we can face an 81 year old Corbyn being responsible for the dissolution of the opposition? Presumably because he doesn't believe in democracy so the opposition gets dissolved?
No, just that it will go the way of the old Liberal Party and finally die on its arse as completely unsuited to the 21st Century.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
It's funny that you only ever turn up to defend Corbyn against charges of anti-semitism. It's an odd thing to be especially interested in.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
You are either a troll, using anti-semitism to get your kicks - or you actually mean this shit you dribble out.
Either way, it paints you as the lowest of the low.
No, I just think its absolutely hilarious coming here every six months to see what new thing you think is DEFINITELY THE END OF CORBYN NOW IT MUST BE SURELY WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO in what should really be in green ink. I guess I thought disgusted of Tunbridge Wells was a stereotype rather than a curious interactive reality.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Even Corbyn admits to the party have an anti semetic problem
And were you alive to witness the horrors the Jews experienced in the war. You would have a lot more sympathy if you had lived through those times
Chris Williamson MP #JC9, yes 9 Verified account @DerbyChrisW
Unopposed vote in favour of #MandatoryReselection at tonight's #DemocracyRoadshow in Bermondsey & Old Southwark constituency and joyous celebration for #JC9's clean sweep in Labour's NEC election. Proceedings were brought to a conclusion with a rendition of We Shall Overcome.
No, I just think its absolutely hilarious coming here every six months to see what new thing you think is DEFINITELY THE END OF CORBYN NOW IT MUST BE SURELY WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO in what should really be in green ink. I guess I thought disgusted of Tunbridge Wells was a stereotype rather than a curious interactive reality.
KP: "It's quite amazing how much importance seems to be placed on the Israel - Palestine conflict in Labour circles when in reality there isn't loads the British govt can do about it"
Very true. But it is absolutely amazing how much importance gets placed on the Israel - Palestine conflict in student politics when in reality there is absolutely sod all your student union can do about it. Doesn't stop them fighting about it though, tooth and claw...
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Actually, to slander someone means to verbally make a statement.
So you are wrong in the first four words, before we start on the rest.
No, I just think its absolutely hilarious coming here every six months to see what new thing you think is DEFINITELY THE END OF CORBYN NOW IT MUST BE SURELY WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO in what should really be in green ink. I guess I thought disgusted of Tunbridge Wells was a stereotype rather than a curious interactive reality.
I fear you might be Diane Abbott - you've been a member since Nov 2013 and are shown to have visited the site 1,217 times..... that's a lot of 6 months.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Zero evidence....
You sound like a Trump supporter.
OK. Shall we look at the facts, rather than the rabid, senile nonsense spewing out of here?
SO we have a small number of complaints that amount to approx 0.01% of the membership and 99% of those that have come to light are in some way related to criticism of Israel. There might have literally been a handful of actual anti-semitic nutcases amongst hundreds of thousands of people , just as there are undoubtedly in the Tory party too.
Virtually everything that has been picked up on happened during the pre-Corbyn era anyway, and yet strangely noone seemed to have suggested there was a problem then.
As we know anti-semitic views are much more prevalent amongst Tory voters than amongst Labour voters.
Corbyn has a long history of supporting early day motions against anti-semitism, better than his critics.
Basically the whole thing is tired bullcrap from a bunch of exhausted and discredited establishment right-wingers who are finding their endless mission to smear and destroy Corbyn dying on its arse.
If PB starts Trigger Warnings at the top of the thread header, then it is the end.
It always amuses Mike that during my first stint as guest editor Vodafone started putting adult content warnings for PB.
So what are you planning now ... ?
I don't think I'll ever top this.
What of David Cameron? With this referendum he must be feeling like the couple who agreed to make home made porn. It sounded like a good idea at the time, he thought it would be fun to do, but now as he sits back and views his production, he must be thinking this hasn’t turned out how he expected it to turn out, whilst regretting his initial decision and feeling a bit nauseous about it all.
If PB starts Trigger Warnings at the top of the thread header, then it is the end.
It always amuses Mike that during my first stint as guest editor Vodafone started putting adult content warnings for PB.
So what are you planning now ... ?
I don't think I'll ever top this.
What of David Cameron? With this referendum he must be feeling like the couple who agreed to make home made porn. It sounded like a good idea at the time, he thought it would be fun to do, but now as he sits back and views his production, he must be thinking this hasn’t turned out how he expected it to turn out, whilst regretting his initial decision and feeling a bit nauseous about it all.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Zero evidence....
You sound like a Trump supporter.
OK. Shall we look at the facts, rather than the rabid, senile nonsense spewing out of here?
SO we have a small number of complaints that amount to approx 0.01% of the membership and 99% of those that have come to light are in some way related to criticism of Israel. There might have literally been a handful of actual anti-semitic nutcases amongst hundreds of thousands of people , just as there are undoubtedly in the Tory party too.
Virtually everything that has been picked up on happened during the pre-Corbyn era anyway, and yet strangely noone seemed to have suggested there was a problem then.
As we know anti-semitic views are much more prevalent amongst Tory voters than amongst Labour voters.
Corbyn has a long history of supporting early day motions against anti-semitism, better than his critics.
Basically the whole thing is tired bullcrap from a bunch of exhausted and discredited establishment right-wingers who are finding their endless mission to smear and destroy Corbyn dying on its arse.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Actually, to slander someone means to verbally make a statement.
So you are wrong in the first four words, before we start on the rest.
OK Judge Judy. I'm not trying to present my case in a court of law. I'm just calling out the rabid, hysterical lunacy coming out of some of the more demented regulars here in perfectly understandable colloquial terms.
Just popped in for a few minutes and realised I had missed out on the opportunity to have a go at a raging Corbyn supporter/troll/antisemite.
In case you are still on here, be in no doubt, anyone that supports Corbyn is a racist. Stop pretending that it doesn't exist you miserable excuse for a human being. Anti-semites are the scum of the earth and Corbyn is one. he will be called out on it again and again. He is scum
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
And it won't do anything but reinforce the views of Conservative voters about Corbyn, which really doesn't matter because they are not going to vote for him anyway.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Zero evidence....
You sound like a Trump supporter.
OK. Shall we look at the facts, rather than the rabid, senile nonsense spewing out of here?
Basically the whole thing is tired bullcrap from a bunch of exhausted and discredited establishment right-wingers who are finding their endless mission to smear and destroy Corbyn dying on its arse.
Just popped in for a few minutes and realised I had missed out on the opportunity to have a go at a raging Corbyn supporter/troll/antisemite.
In case you are still on here, be in no doubt, anyone that supports Corbyn is a racist. Stop pretending that it doesn't exist you miserable excuse for a human being. Anti-semites are the scum of the earth and Corbyn is one. he will be called out on it again and again. He is scum
Equally, you should be in no doubt that this kind of hysterical, unhinged ranting only helps Corbyn.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
And it won't do anything but reinforce the views of Conservative voters about Corbyn, which really doesn't matter because they are not going to vote for him anyway.
You are ignoring a raft of centre-left Labour voters who are appalled by how this is playing out. Some will hold their nose - but some will not. I know them. They are amongst my friends.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
Hahaha. Love this senile guy's endless pronouncements on THIS DEFINITELY BEING THE END OF CORBYN, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!?.
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger. BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
Your abuse is unacceptable and sadly so evident in Corbyn's inner circle.
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
You are constantly slandering labour and its supporters as anti-semitic with zero evidence which is cynical, disgusting and dangerous to those suffering from genuine prejudice, so Im afraid insults are all you deserve at this point really.
Even Corbyn admits to the party have an anti semetic problem
And were you alive to witness the horrors the Jews experienced in the war. You would have a lot more sympathy if you had lived through those times
If PB starts Trigger Warnings at the top of the thread header, then it is the end.
It always amuses Mike that during my first stint as guest editor Vodafone started putting adult content warnings for PB.
So what are you planning now ... ?
I don't think I'll ever top this.
What of David Cameron? With this referendum he must be feeling like the couple who agreed to make home made porn. It sounded like a good idea at the time, he thought it would be fun to do, but now as he sits back and views his production, he must be thinking this hasn’t turned out how he expected it to turn out, whilst regretting his initial decision and feeling a bit nauseous about it all.
Just popped in for a few minutes and realised I had missed out on the opportunity to have a go at a raging Corbyn supporter/troll/antisemite.
In case you are still on here, be in no doubt, anyone that supports Corbyn is a racist. Stop pretending that it doesn't exist you miserable excuse for a human being. Anti-semites are the scum of the earth and Corbyn is one. he will be called out on it again and again. He is scum
Equally, you should be in no doubt that this kind of hysterical, unhinged ranting only helps Corbyn.
No its not unhinged, and no it doesn't help him. He is a racist. If you support him you are a racist by proxy.
Which ones? There are now two Momentums: Momentum and Provisional Momentum.
Probaby the labour party itself. How can Yvette Cooper, Starmer, Hilary Benn, Kinnock, Harman and Tom Watson and others allow this to continue
The problem is they have little power to stop it at the moment. The only thing they can do is wait or leave. The only way I could see them leaving is in a National Government due to Brexit causing the Tories to split. The Tory party is a vehicle for the ambitious to be politicians, the Labour party is almost like a religion. The only way MPs will leave in any decisive way would be to work in a National Government IMO.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
Yep, exactly. All the buffoons on here and in the right-wing westminster bubble twattersphere are completely getting it twisted as to how dragging this nonsense on is looking and who it is making look bad. Clue again: it isnt Corbyn.
It was more effective than many other attack lines which is why they have pushed it for a while but in terms of winning over new converts I don't think it will work to any great degree anymore, it does play well with the already converted, these people are lost to Corbyn anyway.
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
And it won't do anything but reinforce the views of Conservative voters about Corbyn, which really doesn't matter because they are not going to vote for him anyway.
that is why your cult will just get smaller and smaller. For the labour party to stand a chance of power it has to appeal to floating voters. there are a lot of people who would gladly lend Labour their vote if it was not going to a terrorist sympathising, economically illiterate anti-semite
Just popped in for a few minutes and realised I had missed out on the opportunity to have a go at a raging Corbyn supporter/troll/antisemite.
In case you are still on here, be in no doubt, anyone that supports Corbyn is a racist. Stop pretending that it doesn't exist you miserable excuse for a human being. Anti-semites are the scum of the earth and Corbyn is one. he will be called out on it again and again. He is scum
Equally, you should be in no doubt that this kind of hysterical, unhinged ranting only helps Corbyn.
No its not unhinged, and no it doesn't help him. He is a racist. If you support him you are a racist by proxy.
Yep, it is unhinged, and yep, it does help Corbyn, because when the criticism of a politician becomes so persistently OTT, the "middle ground" voters end up just not listening to ANY criticisms of him (even if it's, hypothetically, a valid criticism) because they assume it will be drivel.
Even Tony Blair knows that:
"I never made my line of attack overly harsh. I always tried to make it telling. The aim was to get the non-politician nodding. I would wonder not what appealed to a Labour Party Conference in full throttle, but what would appeal to my old mates at the Bar, who wanted a reasonable case to be made .... Expressed like that, these attacks seem flat, rather mundane almost, and not exactly inspiring - but that's their appeal. Any one of these charges, if it comes to believed, is actually fatal. Yes, it's not like calling your opponent a liar, or a fraud, or a villain or a hypocrite, but the middle-ground floating voter kind of shrugs their shoulders at these claims. They don't chime. They're too over the top, too heavy, and they represent an insult, not an argument. Whereas the lesser charge, because it's more accurate and precisely because it's more low-key, can stick."
In all seriousness this issue wth labour and anti semitism has woken childhood memories that I realise have been held deep seated in my memory and it is like this has opened images that are just too cruel to describe and are haunting. As a child I cried over the images and the dreadful stories a young person should not have to see.
I am wholly opposed to Corbyn and his inner circle on many things, but to see Jews in our Country living in daily fear is just obnoxious to me and for that I cannot forgive him
Cobynites can call me senile but at least I did not suffer as the Jews did and I will always defend their right to live in peace and safety in our Country
The problem with the alternative line of attack about Corbyn caring more is it is his enemies who keep the story or stories somewhat related to it running. Any fatigue or annoyance at caring about issues related to Israel-Palestine more than British issues will surely be a factor Corbyn's opponents also come up against. One major reason the stories have less impact as time goes on is the law of diminishing returns (also a bit of crying wolf) but a factor must just be that people are tired of hearing about it.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
You sound as if you want to wish it away.
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
And it won't do anything but reinforce the views of Conservative voters about Corbyn, which really doesn't matter because they are not going to vote for him anyway.
that is why your cult will just get smaller and smaller. For the labour party to stand a chance of power it has to appeal to floating voters. there are a lot of people who would gladly lend Labour their vote if it was not going to a terrorist sympathising, economically illiterate anti-semite
Labour are ahead in the polls and have an increasing membership from an already record-breaking baseline.
(As an aside, I'd like to add that there are plenty of Jewish Corbyn supporters and also Jewish people who DO think this is a ridiculous and dangerous smear campaign that is doing damage to the real fight against anti-semitism, but all we seem to hear from in the media - I wonder why? - is right-wing pro-Israel groups and figures, who would be implacably opposed to Corbyn no matter what.)
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Regarding the polling, being level-pegging against a not very good government in mid-term, is not usually a good position for the Opposition.
This issue was never put to bed...it was just resting, until the next NEC meeting, when the diehards will resurrect Jeremy's preferred wording.
Then the flan hits the fan.
Which doesn't make it promising as a continued attack line.
Edit: Although thinking on it getting tired of hearing about it would probably just be part of the diminishing returns part anyway.
I think Corbyn's stance on Israel/Palestine is a bit too uncritically pro-Palestinian for my liking, but, even if he's PM, his stance on it isn't going to make a jot of difference to anything. We're in a time where (as Obama found) even the US has next to no impact on the issue, let alone Britain. It's really not worth the bed-wetting on either wing of Labour.
"Ivanka. We can't thank you enough."
If Jezza is so obsessed with Israel and its right to exist.
Then when will he give a speech outlining exactly what his government will do as far as foreign policy towards Israel?
Will the good offices of the Foreign Office be diverted to work with Iran?
I think the public should be told.
However they do make their presence felt at elections...
#ToriesOut
https://twitter.com/CLPD_Labour/status/1037419121460346882
Nothing you can say must be allowed to diminsh what happened and how we welcomed them imto our Country. They are British and part of our society and must be made to feel safe.
Nothing else matters and Corbyn is wholly unfit to lead our Country
https://twitter.com/MatthewdAncona/status/1037332907373854721
This will follow Corbyn and labour all the way to the next GE if he remains leader
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/05/jewish-concern-corbyn-israel-palestine-antisemitism-ihra
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/05/full-transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/
“But I had a business dispute with Mueller before that. I had a real business dispute. And he’s Comey’s best friend. And I could give you 100 pictures of him and Comey hugging and kissing each other...”
Big G, 2015: Corbyn's overwhelming election as leader looks bad for Corbyn
Big G, 2016: Corbyn's overwhelming re-election as leader looks bad for Corbyn, now this is a gamechanger
BIg G, 2017: Corbyn's annihilation of the Tory majority looks bad for Corbyn, this is a gamechanger
Big G, 2018: Corbyn's supporters winning all the seats on the NEC looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger
Big G, 2019: May being kicked out of office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger
Big G, 2020: Corbyn elected looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger
BIg G, 2030: Corbyn's third term in office looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
BIg G, 2035: The dissolution of the Tory party looks bad for Corbyn, gamechanger.
David Aaronovitch
This week’s NEC elections showed how the old stalwarts have been thrown on the fire in an ideological takeover"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/the-labour-party-is-lost-to-ultra-left-fanatics-fnmhgrfh6
https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/270118/standing-at-the-twilight-of-democracy
And it shows you are in panic mode.
I am not senile and I think many on here would see that as an insult
I was alive in the war years and saw the Jews suffering. Were you
We know editors of the Sunday Telegraph and people who have a history of being obsessively pro-Israel don't like Corbyn, it is not what I think we'd call headline news.
Either way, it paints you as the lowest of the low.
I guess I thought disgusted of Tunbridge Wells was a stereotype rather than a curious interactive reality.
You sound like a Trump supporter.
And were you alive to witness the horrors the Jews experienced in the war. You would have a lot more sympathy if you had lived through those times
Chris Williamson MP #JC9, yes 9
Verified account @DerbyChrisW
Unopposed vote in favour of #MandatoryReselection at tonight's #DemocracyRoadshow in Bermondsey & Old Southwark constituency and joyous celebration for #JC9's clean sweep in Labour's NEC election. Proceedings were brought to a conclusion with a rendition of We Shall Overcome.
https://twitter.com/GOsborneGenius/status/1037404840169746432
Very true. But it is absolutely amazing how much importance gets placed on the Israel - Palestine conflict in student politics when in reality there is absolutely sod all your student union can do about it. Doesn't stop them fighting about it though, tooth and claw...
Meanwhile, this might be the start of an interesting spat:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/sep/05/education-department-teachers-express-political-views-headteachers-unions
So you are wrong in the first four words, before we start on the rest.
SO we have a small number of complaints that amount to approx 0.01% of the membership and 99% of those that have come to light are in some way related to criticism of Israel. There might have literally been a handful of actual anti-semitic nutcases amongst hundreds of thousands of people , just as there are undoubtedly in the Tory party too.
Virtually everything that has been picked up on happened during the pre-Corbyn era anyway, and yet strangely noone seemed to have suggested there was a problem then.
As we know anti-semitic views are much more prevalent amongst Tory voters than amongst Labour voters.
Corbyn has a long history of supporting early day motions against anti-semitism, better than his critics.
Basically the whole thing is tired bullcrap from a bunch of exhausted and discredited establishment right-wingers who are finding their endless mission to smear and destroy Corbyn dying on its arse.
What of David Cameron? With this referendum he must be feeling like the couple who agreed to make home made porn. It sounded like a good idea at the time, he thought it would be fun to do, but now as he sits back and views his production, he must be thinking this hasn’t turned out how he expected it to turn out, whilst regretting his initial decision and feeling a bit nauseous about it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sak3QDH7_pg
In case you are still on here, be in no doubt, anyone that supports Corbyn is a racist. Stop pretending that it doesn't exist you miserable excuse for a human being. Anti-semites are the scum of the earth and Corbyn is one. he will be called out on it again and again. He is scum
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Even Tony Blair knows that:
"I never made my line of attack overly harsh. I always tried to make it telling. The aim was to get the non-politician nodding. I would wonder not what appealed to a Labour Party Conference in full throttle, but what would appeal to my old mates at the Bar, who wanted a reasonable case to be made .... Expressed like that, these attacks seem flat, rather mundane almost, and not exactly inspiring - but that's their appeal. Any one of these charges, if it comes to believed, is actually fatal. Yes, it's not like calling your opponent a liar, or a fraud, or a villain or a hypocrite, but the middle-ground floating voter kind of shrugs their shoulders at these claims. They don't chime. They're too over the top, too heavy, and they represent an insult, not an argument. Whereas the lesser charge, because it's more accurate and precisely because it's more low-key, can stick."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/
I am wholly opposed to Corbyn and his inner circle on many things, but to see Jews in our Country living in daily fear is just obnoxious to me and for that I cannot forgive him
Cobynites can call me senile but at least I did not suffer as the Jews did and I will always defend their right to live in peace and safety in our Country
(As an aside, I'd like to add that there are plenty of Jewish Corbyn supporters and also Jewish people who DO think this is a ridiculous and dangerous smear campaign that is doing damage to the real fight against anti-semitism, but all we seem to hear from in the media - I wonder why? - is right-wing pro-Israel groups and figures, who would be implacably opposed to Corbyn no matter what.)