May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
Even on seats May still got the second highest number of Tory MPs elected after 2015 for the last quarter of a century
That one is a keeper. The ‘second highest’ for a ‘quarter of a century’. Absolutely brilliant work.
And true
Comparing a sitting PM with opposition disasters like Hague and Howard? Or IDS who was never trusted actually to get to an election.
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
Yes she benefited from Ruth Davidson in Scotland.
Assuming Ruth is still Scottish Tory leader come the next GE, I doubt she'll be getting the blame if they lose seats in Scotland.
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Yeah good point. What do they call that again? Oh yes - capitalism.
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Yeah good point. What do they call that again? Oh yes - capitalism.
A lot of private businesses in the food industry - including some very large ones. Its not even as narrow as what's in it for the shareholders - serious talk about how to survive the crunch that will come with hard Brexit. Several businesses have already failed, others divesting like crazy, others looking to merge to br big enough to survive.
I know that various experts on here think its all project fear, but I know many of the senior people in this industry, they aren't acting as they are based on delusion, they don't put faith over facts. They need to ensure business continuity.
And its the same with any other major industry. Honda have already patiently set out that given time they do not have they could reconfigure their manufacturing process to hold large inventories of parts. Yes it mans that Swindon would be the most expensive place on earth to build a Honda and as such they will just close the place down rather than bin off their entire way of doing business, but these simpl facts and principles of business seem to pass by the Fuck Business fans...
We export $100 billion less than France each year and $60 billion less than Italy, according to Wiki.
The man is a complete arse and an embarrassment but increasing our exports by another £120bn is indeed what is required to eliminate our trade deficit given that some of these exports will in turn suck in more imports of semi manufactured goods. It is an essential task for our long term standard of living. I just wish government efforts to help in the delivery of such a task was in the hands of someone competent.
A complete arse?
To be complete humans have to have a brain.
May I ask what evidence you have for the existence of Liam Fox's cortex?
Well he got into medical school and qualified as a GP. That probably puts his intelligence in the top 10% at a minimum, probably higher. But he hides it extremely well.
There’s a difference between be able to pass exams and having an appreciation of the world around.Liam Fox seems to lack an strategic vision, or understand of how societies get to where they are.
I’d be interested to know the views of those who worked with him when he was a GP.
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
Even on seats May still got the second highest number of Tory MPs elected after 2015 for the last quarter of a century
That one is a keeper. The ‘second highest’ for a ‘quarter of a century’. Absolutely brilliant work.
And true
Comparing a sitting PM with opposition disasters like Hague and Howard? Or IDS who was never trusted actually to get to an election.
Sitting PMs like Brown and Callaghan and Major who got fewer seats than May did too when they lost power?
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
How has the City responded to Brexit, apart from shipping jobs abroad, that is?
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
How has the City responded to Brexit, apart from shipping jobs abroad, that is?
By agreeing that it will follow, word for word, all European regulations and hoping that this will be accepted and not effed up by the likes of Liam Fox.
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
How has the City responded to Brexit, apart from shipping jobs abroad, that is?
A few thousand jobs moved; suspect more than that have appeared through natural growth in the business cycle.
But what I meant was they have recognised that their narrow agenda doesn’t tally with the result of the referendum, not whining, and are doing what they can behind the scenes to cope with it.
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
How has the City responded to Brexit, apart from shipping jobs abroad, that is?
A few thousand jobs moved; suspect more than that have appeared through natural growth in the business cycle.
But what I meant was they have recognised that their narrow agenda doesn’t tally with the result of the referendum, not whining, and are doing what they can behind the scenes to cope with it.
As mentioned, "behind the scenes" they are acting as though Brexit never happened and won't happen.
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
Yes she benefited from Ruth Davidson in Scotland.
I think the importance of that is so often overlooked. Without the additional 12 seats that Davidson won (and it was her, May was kept away as much as possible) a majority government with the DUP would have been impossible. We might well have been facing a Corbyn/SNP/PC Coalition and goodness knows what would have happened to Brexit or indeed the country. It is an irony that a firm remainer such as Davidson saved a government committed to implementing the referendum result.
The Conservative party owes her a great debt. People go on about Boris' success in winning in metro trendy London but in my opinion it pales into insignificance against what Davidson has managed in an extremely hostile Scotland where for many years the Tories faced extinction. I think the Tory party should be thinking a bit harder about how they get her to Westminster. She can indeed reach parts of the electorate that very few, if any, Tories can.
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
Yes she benefited from Ruth Davidson in Scotland.
I think the importance of that is so often overlooked. Without the additional 12 seats that Davidson won (and it was her, May was kept away as much as possible) a majority government with the DUP would have been impossible. We might well have been facing a Corbyn/SNP/PC Coalition and goodness knows what would have happened to Brexit or indeed the country. It is an irony that a firm remainer such as Davidson saved a government committed to implementing the referendum result.
The Conservative party owes her a great debt. People go on about Boris' success in winning in metro trendy London but in my opinion it pales into insignificance against what Davidson has managed in an extremely hostile Scotland where for many years the Tories faced extinction. I think the Tory party should be thinking a bit harder about how they get her to Westminster. She can indeed reach parts of the electorate that very few, if any, Tories can.
Sometimes you have to pinch yourself when you think about a lesbian becoming a Tory leader and leading her party to significant electoral success in Scotland.
It is frustrating when the left claims to be progressive. Davidson's journey is probably one of the most remarkable and progressive in modern political history.
May had a truly horrible camapaign. From calling an election she said she wouldn't, through approving a suicidal Manifesto and to the debates no-show. Just awful.
That chart is the reason that May will never, ever be allowed by Tory MPs to go into another election as PM.
She is working her notice.
May still got a higher voteshare than any Tory leader since Thatcher and no Tory polls better than her bar Boris and Davidson, the latter is distrusted by many MPs and the latter is not even an MP
Its first past the post. National vote tallies / share are an irrelevance. Its seats that count. And she lost your majority. You're doing the same nonsense the Kali Ma Corbynites do - "don't look at what happened, look at this irrelevant stat!"
The purpose of this was apparently to reduce the power of the Israeli lobby in Parliament. And as a means of reaching out to both sides in search of peace, natch.
I am more worried about the Tories turning anti-business.
Why, because of Boris' outburst about certain business lobbies and their remainer agenda?p
How very Corbyn of you David.
Businesses don't have a Remainer agenda. They have a shareholder value increasing, efficiency promoting, maximising return on investment agenda.
You Leavers are letting Brexit overwhelm your otherwise sound judgement.
Businesses have a very narrow agenda. What is good for their company. Not even their sector, their industry. If they could do their competition down - great! They certainly have no interest in implementation of decisions democratically taken.
Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Incidentally, I'm very impressed with how the city has responded to Brexit.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
As a Londoner who is sympathetic to the City, I can assure you that the strategy to which you allude is to assume that nothing of consequence will change after we leave, insofar as we'll be signatories to pretty much every EU regulation. That's the hope. I presume we can count on your support?
' UK records biggest July budget surplus for 18 years
The UK public finances have come in better than expected in July, the government has announced.
The budget surplus last month came in at £2bn, the best July figure since 2000 and nearly double the £1.1bn figure expected by economists. The improvement was driven by large tax receipts and takes the deficit for the first four months of the financial year to £12.8bn, down 40% on the same time last year. '
The OBR March report was an absolute disgrace for which people should lose their jobs.
But as with the Treasury report of the consequences of a Leave vote nothing will be done.
Membership of the SM may have had some effect at the margins although it was very much more limited in the first decade after joining but the fact is that the whole world's exports have increased markedly as economies become more integrated, whether in the EU or not.
Conway's spin is just nonsense but I agree that the 35% figure seems pretty random.
very good uk borrowing figs just published. I think the last part below is very surprising - just shows how much blair and brown were borrowing in Labour's 2nd and 3rd terms i guess.
Public sector net borrowing (excluding public sector banks) in the current financial year-to-date (April 2018 to July 2018) was £12.8 billion; that is, £8.5 billion less than in the same period in 2017; this is the lowest year-to-date (April to July) net borrowing for 16 years (2002)
FFS, it's a target. Why do we have to have achieved it previously?
And given the direction of travel of that graph, 10 years to achieve it wouldn't be that much of a stretch goal....
Quite. And it is one side of the equation. The real target is to get exports to the level of imports which will also increase significantly over that time. The share of GDP is an irrelevance. As @Alanbrook repeatedly points out import substitution is every bit as important as exports in achieving that and probably contains more low hanging fruit to boot. The man really is a buffoon.
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Businesses can also show poor judgment in hectoring Government for what they want. "We simply have to join the Euro!" being a case in point.
"We simply have to stay in the EU!" being another.
But none of that means the Tory Party is going to engage in some Corbyn-like war on big business.
Some other business sectors could take note. Not whining in public helps....
I know that various experts on here think its all project fear, but I know many of the senior people in this industry, they aren't acting as they are based on delusion, they don't put faith over facts. They need to ensure business continuity.
And its the same with any other major industry. Honda have already patiently set out that given time they do not have they could reconfigure their manufacturing process to hold large inventories of parts. Yes it mans that Swindon would be the most expensive place on earth to build a Honda and as such they will just close the place down rather than bin off their entire way of doing business, but these simpl facts and principles of business seem to pass by the Fuck Business fans...
I’d be interested to know the views of those who worked with him when he was a GP.
But what I meant was they have recognised that their narrow agenda doesn’t tally with the result of the referendum, not whining, and are doing what they can behind the scenes to cope with it.
The Conservative party owes her a great debt. People go on about Boris' success in winning in metro trendy London but in my opinion it pales into insignificance against what Davidson has managed in an extremely hostile Scotland where for many years the Tories faced extinction. I think the Tory party should be thinking a bit harder about how they get her to Westminster. She can indeed reach parts of the electorate that very few, if any, Tories can.
It is frustrating when the left claims to be progressive. Davidson's journey is probably one of the most remarkable and progressive in modern political history.
I hope her pregnancy is progressing well.
And given the direction of travel of that graph, 10 years to achieve it wouldn't be that much of a stretch goal....
' UK records biggest July budget surplus for 18 years
The UK public finances have come in better than expected in July, the government has announced.
The budget surplus last month came in at £2bn, the best July figure since 2000 and nearly double the £1.1bn figure expected by economists. The improvement was driven by large tax receipts and takes the deficit for the first four months of the financial year to £12.8bn, down 40% on the same time last year. '
The OBR March report was an absolute disgrace for which people should lose their jobs.
But as with the Treasury report of the consequences of a Leave vote nothing will be done.
Membership of the SM may have had some effect at the margins although it was very much more limited in the first decade after joining but the fact is that the whole world's exports have increased markedly as economies become more integrated, whether in the EU or not.
Conway's spin is just nonsense but I agree that the 35% figure seems pretty random.
I think the last part below is very surprising - just shows how much blair and brown were borrowing in Labour's 2nd and 3rd terms i guess.
Public sector net borrowing (excluding public sector banks) in the current financial year-to-date (April 2018 to July 2018) was £12.8 billion; that is, £8.5 billion less than in the same period in 2017; this is the lowest year-to-date (April to July) net borrowing for 16 years (2002)
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