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Times YouGov pollCON 39%+1LAB 35%-3LD 10%=
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That is despite a 3% lower Tory voteshare than 2017 and UKIP up to 7%
Some reports Brussels is softening tonight and it is not entirely impossible to see TM getting her deal
For the Country's sake lets hope she does
Both Tory and Labour conferences could see major insurrections against their leaders. The post election stalemate could easily become more volatile.
Or on the other hand it could all be MOE!
The will of the people must be respected.
In most other respects May's deal will look like EEA/EFTA and close to the Customs Union in the end
People don't like compromises, and even if Brussels soften people won't like Chequers. The question is more do Boris and co move in September - chance to change things but puts them on the spot - or wait til after some deal and bitch about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/09/revealed-detail-of-exclusive-russian-deal-offered-to-arron-banks-in-brexit-run-up
Incredible considering the whirlwind we’re flying into.
Love or hate Boris, a majority of voters seem to agree with his point that the Burka is awful but that it shouldn't be banned.
Total rot.
And i voted remain and am deeply sceptical of Boris.
* In the grand scheme of things these are at the low end of the offensive scale.
Every single twitter from @hendopolis front page op, is grey and telling me 'may contain sensitive material'
It’s certainly more interesting than cricket or F1.
Fair point. But only one poll. And i seem to remember others which were narrowly against a ban.
The point remains....
But,
McD's Universal Income proposal in the next 'Labour' manifesto would be a monumental self-destruct bomb in the hands of an opposition leader like Gordon Brown.
Discuss.
Is this the best you can do? Crass.
The debate is nuanced. neither you nor he appear to acknowledge that.
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1027664922270945281
At least their utter purity will be maintained when they lose in 2020/21 and they can say the last Socialist government was still 1945.
Boris be a terrible PM having to do things like diplomacy, deciding spending priorities, dealing with crises, having the buck stop at his desk, being expected to know what all the branches of govnerment are up to. Those all involve too much effort, and don't have many opportunites for cracking a good joke.
May everyone have a restful night
Good night
McD needs to tell us why the proposed UK pilot will be better than the Finnish and Canadian attempts?
FPT
1. People can be offended, if they want. It does not follow that they therefore are entitled to ask for whatever offends them to be banned.
2. The right to free speech & free thought are far more important than the right to dress in a particular way.
3. The reasons for banning the burqa (a very fine judgment) are not to do with the offence it may cause nor its aesthetic qualities but that it is the uniform of an ideology which is very hostile to integration within a secular society, that that unwillingness to integrate is harmful to women in that community & harmful to the level of social cohesion & shared values necessary to make society work well. & this is particularly the case where the community in question is currently very prone to an extremism hostile to the values, norms & laws of this country &, partly as a result, some of its members are vulnerable to terrorism. A society is entitled to say not just “When in Rome, do as the Romans” but also “When in Rome this is what you cannot do”.
But the burqa is only one of the issues to be tackled. What is taught in Islamic schools, in mosques, forced marriage & FGM are more important. But all these issues matter & need to be tackled.
There are serious problems within Muslim communities: a credal culture does not sit well within a democracy. How can you seriously believe in man made laws if you think that laws should come from your version of God? How can a mysogynistic culture fit happily within a culture which believes in equal rights for men & women? How can a religion which thinks that death is the appropriate punishment for apostasy fit comfortably with a culture based on the freedom to think & say what you want.
We should perhaps have asked these questions before continuing to permit large-scale Muslim immigration into the West. We should certainly have done so when we were warned of these issues with the Ray Honeyford affair & then the Rushdie fatwa. We put our heads in the sand. Now we focus on burqas or minarets. But it is to look at the symptoms rather than the bigger question. We need to have a serious debate about & effort at proper integration of minorities not toleration of or a cringe before cultural practices we consider criminal &/or abhorrent nor infantile abuse aimed at individuals.
To @Topping: if a society considers certain practices so damaging to social cohesion it can & should ban them. Ditto with practices considered harmful to particular groups eg forced marriages which come from a belief system (ideology, if you will) about the role of women.
A very fine judgment & I would have preferred it if we had not let ourselves get into this position.
Night all.
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UK, ICM Poll:
LAB-S&D: 40% (-1)
CON-ECR: 39% (-1)
LDEM-ALDE: 7% (-1)
UKIP-EFDD: 6% (+1)
Greens-G/EFA: 3%
Field work: 03/08/18 – 05/08/18
Sample size: 2,049"
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Best PM:
May 36%+4,
Corbyn 22%-3,
Don’t know 39%"
I think Boris was being simultaneously rude and frivolous about a difficult issue, but we shouldn't ban him saying what he thinks, just roll our eyes and ignore his tiresome attention-seeking.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1027683460511682560
Although I think he is pointing out Dover, across the Channel, where May will have to build the world's biggest lorry park, by March.
I more often see young women in Niqab than older, and not infrequently much more conservatively dressed than their parents. I think that at least in part this is second and third generation identity confusion, much like Rastafarianism in the Seventies and Eighties. These are often people who feel incompletely British, but also incompletely in touch with the old culture, and in investigating and seeking their true identity adopt a simalcrum of archaism. How genuine this spirituality is, as opposed to political, varies. It also varies whether it is a passing phase or a dissapearance down the rabbit hole.
My own approach is unlike Boris, I do not insult the wearers but rather support them in their education and careers. That is their best hope of escape.
Not really that hard to understand